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Quote# 137901

Seeing a women poured into tight pants at the grocery store is just as tempting and dangerous as seeing pornography on the internet. Men are under attack. Many preachers recognize the dangers of pornography, but fail to see the danger of sensually unclothed women at the shopping mall or church. Sexual lust is caused by sight for men. Thus, it is extremely important for women to hide their breast cleavage, thighs and sexy shape. Many women laugh at what I say, who are the same women that fornicate, have abortions, divorce and then wonder why their life is so messed-up. It's not that hard to figure out! Even if women dress properly, men will always still struggle with lust. It's part of our human sin-nature. However, when women deliberately dress slutty, wear tight blouses, drawing attention to their body instead of their heart, it is wickedness in God's sight. The Lord will judge every woman in eternity according to how she dressed and behaved on earth. Do you really think God doesn't care about how you dress?

Indecency is in the shopping mall. Victoria's Secret is no longer a secret! Porn is on every magazine! Porn is in all the professional sporting events. The cheerleaders lift their legs, open their skirts, showing their crotches and thighs. God only knows all the women raped, little girls molested, the broken marriages and wives beaten, all because of sluts like Taylor Swift, Katy Perry, the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders, Madonna, Julia Roberts, Sandra Bullock, Marilyn Monroe and all the other whores and devils on two legs. Jesus said in Matthew 12:36 that men will be held accountable for even their idle words. How much more shall God hold women accountable for intentionally causing men to lust and commit sin!!!

Pornography is coming into our homes through television, advertisements, movies, music videos and magazines. It's also coming through the phones in the form of filthy communications, so people can fill their ears and hearts with unholy thoughts and filthy words. People dial 1-900 numbers to talk dirty with some 300 pound pervert on the other end of the line. Sexting has become popular amongst teens, sending filthy text messages to each other. And now “selfies,” teens taking cellphone photos of themselves naked and sending them to friends, has become very popular. What do you think God thinks about this? You know what God thinks! Porn is in the newspapers. It's in the commercials. It's in business windows. It's everywhere!!! You can't name one thing that pornography hasn't gotten a hold of these days. America is filled with every vile abomination!!! Judgment day is coming for America and the wicked world!!!

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 28 Comments [4/19/2018 8:42:08 PM]
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Quote# 137898

A Conversation on Race — Paul Craig Roberts

We often hear that we need a conversation on race. Considering that Americans are a brainwashed people living in a false history, such a conversation would resemble the one the Russians were expected to have with the British in regard to the Skripal poisoning: “Yes, we are guilty. We will pay reparations. Where would you like us to send Putin for trial?” In other words, the only acceptable race conversation in the US is one in which white people accept the accusation that they are racist and offer to make amends.

Considering that the only slavery experienced by any living black or white person is income tax slavery, race is an issue only because it has been orchestrated as an issue along with gender and sexual preference. These divisive issues are the products of Identity Politics spawned by cultural Marxism.

In real Marxism, conflict is class conflict. Workers and capitalists have different interests, and history is a struggle between material interests. The capitalist is the villain and the workers are the victims.

In the pseudo Marxism of Identity Politics, the white race is the villain, especially the white heterosexual male, and racial minorities, women, and homosexuals are the victims.

There is, of course, no such thing as a white or black race. There are many different nationalities of whites, and they have done a good job throughout history of killing each other. Similarly, there are many different black tribes and Asian ethnicities who also have fought more among themselves than with others. But all of this goes by the wayside, along with the fact that in the world the “racial minorities” are actually majorities and the “white majority” is actually a minority. There are more Chinese or Indians alone than there are white people.

But orchestrated histories are not fact-based.

The working class, designated by Hillary Clinton as “the Trump deplorables,” is now the victimizer, not the victim. Marxism has been stood on its head.

The American ruling class loves Identity Politics, because Identity Politics divides the people into hostile groups and prevents any resistance to the ruling elite. With blacks screaming at whites, women screaming at men, and homosexuals screaming at heterosexuals, there is no one left to scream at the rulers.

The ruling elite favors a “conversation on race,” because the ruling elite know it can only result in accusations that will further divide society. Consequently, the ruling elite have funded “black history,” “women’s studies,” and “transgender dialogues,” in universities as a way to institutionalize the divisiveness that protects them. These “studies” have replaced real history with fake history.

For example, it was once universally known that black slavery originated in slave wars between black African tribes. Slaves were a status symbol, but they accumulated beyond the capacity of tribes to sustain. The surplus was exported first to Arabs and then to English, Spanish, and French who founded colonies in the new world that had resources but no work force. The socialist scholar Karl Polanyi, brother of my Oxford professor Michael Polanyi, told the story of the origin of the African slave trade in his famous book, Dahomey and the Slave Trade.

The first slaves in the new world were white. When real history was taught, this was widely understood. Movies were even made that showed that in King George III’s England, the alternative to criminal punishment was to be sold as a slave in the colonies. See, for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAgfWhlc3gQ

Among the first New World lands to be exploited by the Europeans were the Carribean Islands, which were suitable for sugar and rice production. The problem was that the white slaves died like flies from malaria and yellow fever. The Spanish lack of success with a work force of natives of the lands they conquered led those in search of a work force to the slave export business of the black Kingdom of Dahomey. The demand for black workers rose considerably when it was discovered that many had immunity to malaria and resistance to yellow fever. This meant that a plantation’s investment in a work force was not wiped out by disease.

The resistance of blacks to malaria is due to the protective feature of the sickle cell trait that, apparently, only blacks have. See: https://www.cdc.gov/malaria/about/biology/sickle_cell.html

Slavery existed in the New World long before the United States came into existence. George Washington and Thomas Jefferson are today written off by Identity Politics as racists simply because they were born when slavery was a pre-existing institution.

Slavery had existed for many centuries prior to the Confederacy. Yet, in some accounts today one comes away with the impression that the South invented slavery. As the tale sometimes goes, Southern racists so hated blacks that they went to Africa, captured blacks at great expense, only to return them to the South where they whipped and abused their investments to the point of death and demoralized their work force by breaking up black families, selling children in one direction and wives and husbands in the other. This tale is not told as an occasional abuse but as the general practice. Economically, of course, it makes no sense whatsoever. But facts are no longer part of American history.

Northern states held slaves as well. However, the predominance of slaves were in the South. This was not because Southerners hated blacks. It was because the land in the South supported large agricultural cultivation, and there was no other work force. The South, like the United States, inherited slavery from the work force that European colonists purchased from the black Kingdom of Dahomey.

Why wasn’t there an alternative work force to slaves? The reason is that new immigrants by moving West could take land from the native Americans and be independent as opposed to being wage earners working on someone else’s land. The Western frontier did not close until about 1900. At the time of the War of Northern Aggression the Plains Indians still ruled west of the Mississippi River. It was Lincoln’s Northern war criminals, Sherman and Sheridan, who were sent to exterminate the Plains Indians. Ask the American natives, or what is left of them, who the racists are: the Northerners or the Southerners.

Black studies has even corrupted other aspects of history. Consider the so-called “civil war.” The name itself is an orchestration. There was no civil war. There was a War of Northern Aggression. A civil war is when two sides fight for control of the government. The South had left the union and had no interest whatsoever in controlling the government in Washington. The only reason the South fought was that the South was invaded by the North.

Why did the North invade the South? As was once understood by every historian and every student, Abraham Lincoln invaded the South in order, in Lincoln’s own words, expressed time and time again, “to preserve the Union.”

Why did the South leave the Union? Because it was being economically exploited by the North, which, once the North gained the ability to outvote the Southern states, imposed tariffs that benefited the North at the expense of the South. The North needed protection from British manufactures in order for the economic rise of the North. In contrast, the South’s economy was based on cotton exports to England and on cheap manufactures imported from England. Tariffs would bring the South higher cost of manufactured goods and retaliation against their cotton exports. The economic interests of the North and South did not coincide.

Slavery had nothing whatsoever to do with the war. Lincoln himself said so over and over. Prior to his invasion of the South, Lincoln and the Northern Congress promised the South Constitutional protection of slavery for all time if the Southern states would stay in the Union. Historians who have read and recorded the war correspondence of both Union and Confederacy soldiers to relatives and friends at home can find no one fighting for or against slavery. The Northern troops are fighting to preserve the union. The Southern ones are fighting because they are invaded.

Nothing could be clearer. Yet, the myth has been established that Abraham Lincoln went to war in order to free the slaves. In fact, Lincoln said that blacks were not capable of living with whites, who he said were superior, and that his intention was to send the blacks back to Africa. If America ever had a “white supremacist,” it was Abraham Lincoln.

What about the Emancipation Proclamation? Didn’t this order by Lincoln free the blacks? No. It was a war measure on which hopes were placed that, as almost every able-bodied Southern male was in the front lines, the slaves would revolt and rape the Southern soldiers’ wives and daughters, forcing the soldiers to desert the army and return home to protect their families. As Lincoln’s own Secretary of State said, the president has freed the slaves in the territories that the Union does not control and left them in slavery in the territory that the Union does control.

Why did Lincoln resort to such a dishonorable strategy? The reason is that Lincoln had run through all the Union generals and could not find one that could defeat Robert E. Lee’s vastly outnumbered Army of Northern Virginia.

The character and generalship of Robert E. Lee, who is dismissed by Identity Politics as a white racist, is so highly admired by the United States Army that the Barracks at West Point are named in Lee’s honor. Not even “America’s first black president” was able to change that. Black history also covers up the fact that Robert E. Lee was offered command of the Union Army. In those days Americans still saw themselves as citizens of their state, not as citizens of the US. Lee refused the offer on the grounds that he could not go to war against his native country of Virginia and resigned his US Army commission.

If Lee had been in command of the Confederacy at the First Battle of Bull Run when the Union Army broke and ran all the way back to Washington, Lee would have followed and the war would have ended with the South’s victory.

But Lee wasn’t there. Instead, the Southern generals concluded, watching the fleeing Union Army, that the Northerns could neither fight, retreat in order, or ride horses, and were no threat whatsoever. This conclusion overlooked the superior manpower of the North, the constant inflow of Irish immigrants who became the Union’s cannon fodder, the Northern manufacturing capability, and the navy that could block Southern ports and starve the South of resources.

During the first two years of the War of Northern Aggression the Union Army never won a battle against Lee’s vastly outgunned army. The North had everything. All the South had was valor. Lincoln was desperate. Opposition to his war was rising in the North. He had to imprison 300 Northern newspaper editors, exile a US Congressman, and was faced with the North’s most famous general running against him on a peace platform in the next election. Thus, Lincoln’s vain attempt to provoke a slave rebellion in the South. Why didn’t such allegedly horribly treated and oppressed slaves revolt when there was no one to prevent it but women and children?

Everything I have written in this column was once understood by everyone. But it has all been erased and replaced with a false history that serves the ruling elite. It is not only the ruling elite that has a vested interest in the false history of “white racism,” but also the universities and history departments in which the false history is institutionalized and the foundations that have financed black history, women’s studies, and transgender dialogues.

It was Reconstruction that ruined relations between blacks and whites in the South. The North stuffed blacks down the throats of the defeated South. Blacks were placed in charge of Southern governments in order to protect the Northern carpet baggers who looted and stole from the South. The occupying Union Army encouraged the blacks to abuse the Southern people, especially the women, as did the Union soldiers. The Klu Klux Klan arose as a guerrilla force to stop the predations. Robert E. Lee himself said that if he had realized how rapacious the North would prove to be, he would have led a guerrilla resistance.

The generations of Americans who have been propagandized instead of educated need to understand that Reconstruction did not mean rebuilding southern infrastructure, cities, and towns destroyed by the Union armies. It did not mean reconstructing southern food production. It meant reconstructing southern society and governance. Blacks, who were unprepared for the task, were put in control of governments so that carpetbaggers could loot and steal. Whites lost the franchise and protection of law as their property was stolen. Some areas suffered more than others from the Reconstruction practices, which often differed from, and were worse than, the policies themselves.

Reconstruction was a contentious issue even within the Republican Party. Neither president Lincoln nor Johnson would go along with the more extreme Republican elements. The extremism of the Reconstruction policies lost support among the northern people. When the Democrats regained control of the House of Representatives in the 1870s, Reconstruction was brought to an end.

In the South, and most certainly in Atlanta, where I grew up, schools were neighborhood schools. We were segregated by economic class. I went to school with middle class kids from my middle class neighborhood. I did not go to school with rich kids or with poor kids. This segregation was not racial.

When the North again got on its high moral horse and imposed school integration on the South, it disrupted the neighborhood school system. Now kids spent hours riding in school busses to distant locations. This destroyed the parent-teacher associations that had kept parental involvement and displinine in the schools. The South, being a commonsense people, saw all of this coming. The South also saw Reconstruction all over again. That, and not hatred of blacks, is the reason for the South’s resistance to school integration.

All of America, indeed of the entire West, lives in The Matrix, a concocted reality, except for my readers and the readers of a handful of others who cannot be compromised. Western peoples are so propagandized, so brainwashed, that they have no understanding that their disunity was created in order to make them impotent in the face of a rapacious ruling class, a class whose arrogance and hubris has the world on the brink of nuclear Armageddon.

History as it actually happened is disappearing as those who tell the truth are dismissed as misogynists, racists, homophobes, Putin agents, terrorist sympathizers, anti-semites, and conspiracy theorists. Liberals who complained mightily of McCarthyism now practice it ten-fold.

The brainwashing about the Russian and Muslim threats works for a number of reasons. The superpatriots among the Trump deplorables feel that their patriotism requires them to believe the allegations against Russia, Syria, Iran, and China. Americans employed in the vast military/security complex understand that the budget that funds the complex in which they have their careers is at stake. Those who want a wall to keep out foreigners go along with the demonization of Muslims as terrorists who have to be killed “over there before they come over here.” The Democrats want an excuse for having lost the presidential election. And so on. The agendas of various societal elements come together to support the official propaganda.

The United States with its brainwashed and incompetent population—indeed, the entirety of the Western populations are incompetent—and with its absence of intelligent leadership has no chance against Russia and China, two massive countries arising from their overthrow of police states as the West descends into a gestapo state. The West is over and done with. Nothing remains of the West but the lies used to control the people. All hope is elsewhere.

Paul Craig Roberts, PaulCraigRoberts 15 Comments [4/19/2018 10:40:11 AM]
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Quote# 137896

It would be maniacal to believe in something that you knew was a lie and then die for that lie. You can choose to believe or not to believe but your belief does not change the historical evidence that Jesus indeed did exist and that He continues to exist. For many, they will believe too late (Dan 12:2; Rev 20:11-15). If I am wrong, then you have nothing to lose and you will cease to exist at death but if the Bible is right, and I am convinced that it is, you will have to give an account for your life after you die (Heb 9:27) but “Those who are wise shall shine. Like the brightness of the firmament, And those who turn many to righteousness. Like the stars forever and ever” (Dan 12:3). Reject this truth and you will face “shame and everlasting contempt” (Dan 12:2c).

Jack Wellman, Christian Crier 14 Comments [4/19/2018 9:42:54 AM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

Quote# 137895

Earlier today, I went to go study for an actuarial exam at a table by the pool at my apartment complex. My apartment set up some pretty nice scenery with a waterfall and palm trees and stuff, so it's a nice place to study. I didn't stick around for a very long time, because there were about ten to twenty black people there having a bit of a get together and it kinda ruined it for me.

I'm not saying that they were doing anything wrong. They live in the apartment complex and have the right to be there. They are allowed to play their black people music at the volume they had it, they weren't being destructive or violent, or anything like that. It was just a large group of black people gathering in a way that they're allowed to do and using the facilities like anyone else.

When normies talk about assimilation, they usually talk about it in trivial ways. Does this person speak fluent English without an accent? Does this person celebrate Thanksgiving? Does this person watch American TV shows and movies while getting the cultural references? Etc. I get that that's a quantitative way to do things, but it doesn't really get to the heart of the matter.

Black people music has a very distinctive "black" sound and even a black feeling to it. Blacks have different mannerisms with each other, from things as obvious as the volume that they speak at or harder to describe like the way the influxes of how they talk or even the words they use (even when they don't talk in ebonics.) It just creates a very different feeling to it and I don't really like it.

I'm also going to note that there were no other whites in the pool area today. It's usually mostly white, but there wasn't a single one there today. I think it should be pretty obvious that they had exactly the same feeling that I did. They just didn't like the scenery.

I wouldn't describe my feeling as "hatred." I associate "hatred" with a passionate emotion of intense anger and disgust at someone's mere existence, not just with disliking the scenery that other groups make. I don't think wicked things about them and I do acknowledge that they were just doing their thing exactly as they were allowed to do. It's just very unattractive to me, and apparently to every white (actually, every non-black) in the apartment.

I think that the reason why the left tries to demonize the way I feel so much is because it's a really powerful argument. I don't really like the idea that wherever I live, I'll have to leave whenever certain groups decide to hang out. And sure, some liberal here will comment "You didn't have to leave" but I kind of did, or at least I couldn't have had the type of experience I was hoping to have.

And btw, I live near a city so there are plenty of liberals and communists where I live; none of them wanted to be near these blacks. It's just not a good thing to put up with and that should be enough reason in and of itself not to support diversity.

It also doesn't rely on them being criminals or rapists or anything. My apartment is expensive enough that those people are pretty much weeded out. It's just that white people generally don't like how these groups are and so it makes sense for us to want a place of our own.

WaltzRoommate, Reddit 25 Comments [4/18/2018 1:33:21 PM]
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Quote# 137891

The nature of pornography is to target youth. Clothing magazines have been photographing children in their underwear for decades, which is a form of child pornography. No one, especially Christian men, ought to look in clothing catalogs because of the indecent women and girls displayed in them. God pity the man who browses through a Victory Secrets catalog or Sports Illustrated. No man has a God-given right to view such adulterous imagery. And may I say, women ought not view naked young girls either. America's irresponsible attitude toward virtue, modesty and decency has created a generation of sexual degenerates devoid of morality. Today women wear their dresses up, and men their pants down.

Small girls are photographed in fashion model style, looking like Broadway whores, even photographed in sexually suggestive scenes. This type of debauchery is considered normal in American society today. It's wickedness to almighty God. Stupid mothers think it's harmless for their young daughters to run around in colored underwear, simply because it's a bathing suit. It is immodesty! I read on the front page of the local newspaper about a grade school brat, strutting her stuff at dancing class, wearing a miniskirt. Hundreds of parents viewed, clapped their hands and thought it was cute. They are sick-minded heathens missing God in their lives. America has deteriorated into a cesspool (sewer outlet) of iniquity.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 28 Comments [4/18/2018 1:31:05 PM]
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Quote# 137889

Why do Black liberals love the word “unapologetic” so much when their whole politic is an apology to the ruling class?

Bae Guevara, Twitter 10 Comments [4/18/2018 1:29:43 PM]
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Quote# 137887

WARNING TO PAREN'TS WHOSE CHILDREN WATCH GARFIELD AND FRIENDS:

I am so angry right now! My 8 year old Cameron was just watching Garfield a Friends on Netflix. The episode: Volume 2, episode 2, "Food Fun", and at about 16:30 minutes into the show, Jon is singing in the shower, and Garfield is on the bed covering his ears.

Jon's singing is pretty awful, so I am anticipating Garfield to make a funny comment about it. Instead what he says is horrifying.

Garfield says;

"People who sing in the shower should be dragged in the street and shot."

THINK about what that says! I couldn't get to the TV fast enough to shut it off. I also couldn't believe that a children's show would say such a thing. I am so sick of screening CHILDREN'S SHOWS!

So parent's, before you allow your precious, innocent, babies to watch Garfield and Friends, or other CHILDREN'S shows, unfortunately, you should take the time to screen them for adult/inappropriate content! (Like parent's have time to screen every show). Sadly, and obviously though, we need to make time.

Please share this so other parent's and children don't get caught off guard like I did! Shame on anyone who thinks this is appropriate content for children!

Monique Smith, Facebook 25 Comments [4/18/2018 1:29:10 PM]
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Submitted By: Jake Goff

Quote# 137886

Ive watched a lot of Jared Taylors speeches and I'll say he has a point.What Taylor is saying is basically how everyone else outside the western world thinks.Everyone has their home and everyone has the right to preserve including white people.If diversity is a strength then does this mean Japan,China and SK are weak?

I also believe in racial differences.if we were all exactly the same the world will be a bland boring place.We are all different species of the same animal.However IQ is not destiny.IQ does not determine how far you go in life.

I can assure you if you went outside the west,you will be racially discriminated openly with no apologies.This diversity experiment,like everything else needs moderation.Whenever I travel overseas I prefer to see people who are different from me,that's the whole point of tourism.

Displacement is not a joke and it has serious ramifications.If you think Hispanics won't make efforts to keep their eventual majority then you're joking.They will reconstruct your country
I wouldn't say I support or love the altright but I understand where youre coming from.Im open minded,most people aren't.

The anti-Semitism is delegitimising your movement though.

t4mvv1lx, Reddit 9 Comments [4/18/2018 1:28:41 PM]
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Quote# 137883

America's churches have failed the Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transgendered (LGBT) community. We really have! For the past half-century the churches have failed homosexuals. I mean, if anyone in the world ought to be helping the LGBT community, it is the churches! Even America's independent fundamental Baptist churches today are failing the LGBT crowd. It is high-time for the churches to start doing what they should have done long ago! Yes, the churches are at fault. We have dropped the ball. There are no legitimate excuses, the Christian churches have failed the LGBT community!!!

How, you may ask, have the churches “failed” the LGBT community? I am glad that you asked. We have failed the LGBT community by refusing to cry aloud against homosexuality as a filthy “sin”! We have failed the LGBT community by tolerating homosexual “sin” instead of exposing it as “perversion” in our society. We have failed the LGBT community by refusing to embrace them with the truth, the horrifying truth that a holy God will not accept homosexuality.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 15 Comments [4/18/2018 1:25:35 PM]
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Quote# 137882

Genetics show that ALL humans are compatible as mates. This would indicate that we all have one set of parents.

Even evolutionary claims always lead back to an “Adam” and “Eve”. (That is what was presented on my DNA testing, that on my paternal side, it lead all the way back to an “Adam” which they located as being in Africa, the popular location for evolutionists’ point of origin for mankind.) And all women have the same “mother”, the mitochondria DNA.

Specific dominate traits came into existence, and because of isolation from other family groups, those favorable traits grew stronger. That is why what people call “race” is such a fallacy.

It is not unusual for this to happen in other species of life, for example Darwin’s finches, where differing eating habits modified the finches. (One of the current worries by evolutionary scientists is that the famous finches interbred with other finches who have developed differing eating habits. So there are now composite finches all over the islands.)

Since you (maybe a pale white guy) could chose as a mate, a beautiful Aboriginal woman, and your children would be a composite of the two of you, this supports the fact that Adam and Eve as spoken of in the Bible, is as valid an explanation as any so-called scientific explanation.

Rick Gutbrod, Quora 9 Comments [4/18/2018 1:25:19 PM]
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Quote# 137880

(In response to "Who would Win in a fight: Jesus or Odin.")

I came upon this months after it was posted but I feel some context is needed. First, Jesus died on a cross for the sins of the world, an act of mercy and grace. If Odin did exist, he would be considered a false god as far as the Bible is concerned. Jesus is stated by the NT as being the embodiment of Yahweh of the OT (the Word of God [John 1:1, 1:14)(Colossians 2:9). In the Book of Revelation Jesus returns as the Lion of the Tribe of Judah and pretty much hands all rebellious humans and rebel angels (i.e. false gods) their collective heads, especially in chapter 19 where He is the rider on the white horse and has the hem of His robe dipped in the blood of His enemies. He is the Creator of the universe (Genesis chapter 1) and therefore the entire universe responds to and belongs to Him. In other words, Jesus would imprison Odin for his rebellion and false presentation of himself as a god forever. This means that Odin is one of the rebellious angels and Yahweh’s creation and, therefore, less than Yahweh. In the Bible’s context Jesus takes this in what cannot even rise to the level of a “curbstomp”. This is pure “spite” as a battle from the perspective of the Bible.

John Allen, Quora 19 Comments [4/18/2018 1:24:50 PM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

Quote# 137877

There is no contradictions in the Bible, only in our heads. You cannot understand the Bible without the Holy Spirit, it's absolutely impossible. And it remains sealed to the unbeliever.

Dion de Beer, Senior Technician, Quora 15 Comments [4/18/2018 1:23:04 PM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

Quote# 137876

Man, you have to remember that you are talking about someone that dwells in ETERNITY. Do ya hear me?……… ETERNITY……… It don’t sound like a long time if ya say it fast but man…….it’s a loooooong time. A day with the Lord is as a thousand years and a thousand years is as a day. By that measure it’s only been two days man. Be patient my friend. Just be sure that you are ready when he comes back or when you depart this life into the next. God is not a man that he should lie, nor the son of man that he should repent (like you and I need to do) has he said and shall he not do? or has he spoken and will he not make it good? God said that he would do all that he has said and his word shall not return unto him void. Just be patient, The Lord is building his church and when that number is made up he will come again and receive us unto himself, that where he is there we may be also. So, NO! It’s not a pure lie. You can and should trust it to be true.

Mark, Quora 6 Comments [4/18/2018 1:22:56 PM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

Quote# 137875

(In response to "What exactly did Jesus mean when He said "I am coming soon" and similar phrases? Well, looking at the calendar, I see it's at least 1,800 years after these scriptures were written. Clearly, this is not "soon" in any modern sense of the word. Thus, I'm asking: What does "soon" mean in these verses?)

Your question, is one which has been around for quite some time. I can remember hearing it when I was a kid back in the 1950's, (and yes there are some of us that old still around).

All Scripture is quoted from the King James translation, unless otherwise noted.

We as mere humans seem to not be able to understand what time is, and that it has no function in eternity. Time was created by God in Genesis, as a way of dividing his labors into segments.

Genesis 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

Genesis 1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

If you will; notice in Genesis 1:5, that God called the light which he had created day and the darkness which the light divided he called night. It is also noteworthy that he began his first day and all following with the darkness beginning the day. The darkness of the first day is Eternity before God created the light.

Genesis 1:1 through 4 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. 3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. 4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

So therefore Creation began some where in eternity, but we actually have no time reference as to when since, that first night was eternity. It is also cogent to notice that God divided the light from the darkness. This brings up another controversy, in how can you have both light and darkness at the same time, and the only answer I can come up with for that is:

Mark 10:27 And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men it is impossible, but not with God: for with God all things are possible.

So our definition of time is not the same as God's, with God a day can be just as long as he wants it to be, but with us a day can only be twenty four hours long. We as mortals have to fit things neatly into a package of our making, but with God he is unrestricted, and we need to conform to him and he is in no way compelled to conform to our concepts of either time or space.

As an example in Genesis which God must have given to Moses, He says:

Genesis 3:14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

and

Genesis 5:4 and 5 And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters: And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.

Notice that in these Scriptures God's use of the phrase;(all of the days) even though Moses has substituted years.

With God there are no such thing as years, or decades or centuries, or for that case not even millennia, there is only undivided eternity. All divisions of time other than days are a creation of man, and as an example a month on the current Calendar can be 28 days, 30 days or 31 days long; but the Hebrew calendar, which predates our calendar, all months were 30 days long. Man has so completely confused the division of time that eternity has no real concept anymore, and man appears incapable of comprehending such a thing as not having an alpha and omega.

As a consequence; whether the Scripture means either quickly or soon, that time period is determined by God and not by us.


BYE,  _ Christianity Stack Exchange 6 Comments [4/18/2018 1:22:37 PM]
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Reddit is now purging accounts related to "Russian" activity. Don't fall for this. Reddit is involved in mass propaganda activity as well, and it's in their interest to get rid of any competitors. There are multiple domestic outfits involved in social media manipulation and propaganda campaigns. There are even ones dedicated to spreading propaganda about Russian propaganda. As of now, there is no way for you to know what is real, what is fake, what is real but being spread by fake accounts, and what is fake being spread by real accounts. Reddit has their own interests. They are not the same as yours.

CAN'T TRUST HILLARY, r/conspiracy 5 Comments [4/18/2018 1:22:26 PM]
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Quote# 137873

Like the 8 studies done in 3 different nations proving homosexuality is not genetic, thus not born that way.

In the identical twin studies, Dr. Whitehead has been struck by how fluid and changeable sexual identity can be.

“Neutral academic surveys show there is substantial change. About half of the homosexual/bisexual population (in a non-therapeutic environment) moves towards heterosexuality over a lifetime. About 3% of the present heterosexual population once firmly believed themselves to be homosexual or bisexual.”
“Sexual orientation is not set in concrete,” he notes.

Even more remarkable, most of the changes occur without counseling or therapy. “These changes are not therapeutically induced, but happen ‘naturally’ in life, some very quickly,” Dr. Whitehead observes. “Most changes in sexual orientation are towards exclusive heterosexuality.” Numbers of people who have changed towards exclusive heterosexuality are greater than current numbers of bisexuals and homosexuals combined. In other words, ex-gays outnumber actual gays.

Terry_Bean, Disqus 12 Comments [4/18/2018 1:22:08 PM]
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Submitted By: Christopher

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(=Series of this fundies qoutes on this thread=)

1. "Yep and that is why Anglicans in Africa are being murdered and the Anglicans are running for their life in Africa. Yet the gay lobby will never admit that. They are causing a murder every five minutes in the name of political correctness"

2. "I don't hate anybody. Gays need to learn that not everything is about them. Their actions are causing murders and I think it would be a good time to tone their actions down. Why doesn't the gay lobby show any tolerance when it comes to others?"

3 "Yep, and they don't care how many people have or will get murdered as long as they get their way. Why nobody has any respect for them.

4. "The liberals in the Episcopal Church never address how many people are getting murdered in Africa. The Muslims kill them because they are afraid that the church will turn them gay. Gay rights over everything. That is all that matters and the gay lobby in the church has blood all over their hands. It is sad."

5. "No Harvey Milk ...its the truth and I don't attend a Westboro style church at all. I stay up on current events and read. The truth is that the gay lobby is causing thousand and thousands of murders every year in Africa and the Middle East but the media does not address it. If the gay lobby had an ounce of decency in them they would shut up. Gay lobby is covered in blood."

6. "if they would tone it down and go by the rules we would not have a problem. But instead they make up a false gospel and whine and it gets people killed left and right. The church will not survive. Simply not enough people to keep it up and the church will split in three years when the Episcopal Church gets tossed. Anglicans in Africa are tired of running for their lives and the gay lobby could care less as long as they get their way."

Forrester, Disqus 2 Comments [4/18/2018 1:21:28 PM]
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Submitted By: Christopher

Quote# 137871

(=Two quotes on the same thread=)

1. Homosexuals are the worst hypocrites in the world, and the worst killers and cons. It was the homosexual Ernst Rohm that put Adolph Hitler in power. But because Hitler is a bad man to be associated with the gays have allowed history to "Slant" with the claim "There isn't enough evidence to prove Hitler and Rohm had sex." If Hitler was a popular name then the fact that Hitler and Rohm were prison partners, and while Hitler wrote his big book in prison it's all very plausible that Rohm served as his prison protector. Obviously Hitler was a confused man and as a writer a sensitive man in prison and probably used by Rohm- The proof?? Hitler made Rohm his head of the Storm Troopers and Rohm put known gay soldiers in as leaders and they would kill Jews and burn the homes of all enemies of the Nat. Socialist Party; and Rohm and his gay killers gave Hitler the world. When Adolph got his own sexual identity clarified with his last girlfriend he then had Rohm murdered and the homosexual community destroyed to prevent any rumors that Adolph was involved in homosex. Obama may have done the same in 08'- having read stories of black gay men being mysteriously murdered in the news. And the Sacred Band of Thebes were a hard core band of homosexual killers that Alexander the Great destroyed and never rebuilt- Obviously they even disgusted Alexander.

2. How stupid is the writer of this story! There is a big difference between common sins and using laws to turn sin into a civil right. Most of us have sexual desires, and many people have some kind of sex desire that is a sin by the Bible, but we don't all throw our sins in the face of the world and demand they recognize our sex sin as a civil right. Homosexuals have lived in relative peace and prosperity here in America for decades without it being a civil right; their numbers that commanded this new marriage movement is proof the gays were allowed to live without harm of death. Now we must make war with them because a sin must never be commanded as a right by any law. The Anti-gay backlash is only in it's infancy and will soon send us all back to the dark ages- well not just over gay marriage as there are other things to make war over alongside gay marriage.

Gilbert Lay, Disqus 7 Comments [4/18/2018 1:20:50 PM]
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Quote# 137870

Has nothing to with hatred, it is called common sense and having the common decency to know that men and women go together. Wickedness and the perverted lifestyle has some horrible diseases that go along with it.

Forrest, Disqus 6 Comments [4/18/2018 1:20:42 PM]
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CPD: Woman arrested in attempted exorcism, kidnapping; sister wanted
Monday, April 16th 2018, 3:08 pm EDT
By Claude Thompson, Digital Content Producer

COLUMBIA, SC (WIS) - Two women are facing charges in connection with an attempted exorcism where a 56-year-old victim was held against her will on March 19.

Brittany Jones, 28, and Tiara Jones, 26, are both facing first-degree assault charges and kidnapping charges in connection with the exorcism.

Brittany Jones allegedly assaulted the victim in the upper and lower body with a cross, believing the victim was possessed.

The victim escaped and got help from a neighbor and was transported to injuries that were not life-threatening.

Brittany Jones was arrested last week and is held on a $100,000 bond, according to Columbia Police, but Tiara Jones is still wanted.

Anyone with any information about this incident is urged by authorities to contact Crimestoppers by calling 1-888-CRIME-SC (888-274-6372) or visiting www.midlandscrimestoppers.com and emailing a tip. Your identity will be kept anonymous, and if your tip leads to an arrest, you could be eligible for a cash reward of up to $1,000.

Brittany and Tiara Jones, WIS 2 Comments [4/18/2018 1:20:15 PM]
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Submitted By: Thanos6

Quote# 137867



Transcript:

David Hogg had a hissy fit over this tweet. He decided to sic his followers on her TV advertisers.

You wantta tissue, poor widdle Davy?

@IngrahamAngle:
David Hogg Rejected By Four Colleges To Which He Applied and whines about it, (Dinged by UCLA with a 4.1 GPA...totally predictable given acceptance rates.) https://www.dailywire.com/news/28770/gun-rights-provocateur-david-hogg-rejected-four-joseph-curl



Matthew Mason, Twitter 15 Comments [4/18/2018 1:19:51 PM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

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Question: Is it allowed to mix with the disbelievers, Christians, Hindus and others, and to eat and talk to them or even to be amicable with them as a means of calling them to Islam?

Answer: It is allowed to mix with the disbelievers, sit with them and be polite with them as means of calling them to Allah, explaining to them the teachings of Islam, encouraging them to enter this religion and to make it clear to them the good result of accepting the religion and the evil result of punishment for those who turn away. For this purpose, being a companion to them and showing love for them is overlooked in order to reach that good final goal.

Shaikh Ibn Jibreen, IslamsWomen 4 Comments [4/18/2018 1:19:11 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 137862

Negative implication is an underdeveloped concept of logic that the existence of +1, for example, implies the existence of -1. The existence of evil implies the existence of good, as an other example. The existence of the seen (the material) implies the existence of the unseen. And so on.

Negative implication is required by the fundamental uncertainty discovered in quantum mechanics and described in the Book of Genesis, because uncertainty about "A" requires the existence of "Not A."

Andy Schlafly, Conservapedia 8 Comments [4/18/2018 1:18:06 PM]
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Quote# 137861

[Title of the post is "Physiognomy is more than real"]

It is science. And Martin Luther King's dream remains just that, a dream that is not based on reality:

Unless it involves mocking President Trump’s supposedly “small hands,” there is nothing that horrifies our multiculturalist masters more than judging by appearances.

It is impossible, they claim, to infer anything about how someone is likely to behave by their gender or because they are from a particular ethnic group. Everyone is unique (but also, somehow, equal). Judging by appearances is not just superficial but plain evil.

It will be fascinating to see what they’ll make of the recently-published book by British academic Dr. Edward Dutton titled How To Judge People By What They Look Like, which argues that even within races and sexes you can, with a fair degree of accuracy, infer people’s personalities from appearances. You may even get an inside track on how smart they are by taking a good look at their physical characteristics, according to Dutton.

“You can’t judge people by what they look like! It’s drummed into us as children,” writes Dutton, an adjunct professor of anthropology at Oulu University in northern Finland. “It is utterly false.”

But Dutton makes a provocative case for resurrecting the ancient art of physiognomy—judging character from the face. He argues it should never have been dismissed as pseudo-science. Indeed, his research goes way beyond making inferences from the face. He writes:

We are evolved to judge people’s psychology from what they look like; we can accurately work out people’s personality and intelligence from how they look, and (quite often) we have to if we want to survive. Body shape, hairiness, eye width, finger length, even how big a woman’s breasts are . . . these and much else are windows into personality, intelligence or both.


So many people fail to understand that when I say the Alt-Right is inevitable, I am not merely engaging in rhetoric. I mean that quite literally and I am speaking in unvarnished dialectic. Just as communism is unviable because it denies economics and feminism is unviable because it denies biology, conservatism is unviable because it denies inequality. All of these unviable political identities have set themselves against science, history, and observable reality.

Remember, the red pill is reality.

As Dutton says in his book, the relevant research has been published in top psychology journals, such as Intelligence, Personality and Individual Differences and Evolutionary Psychological Science, as has his own research. This includes a study asserting that atheists tend to be less physically attractive and more likely to be left-handed than religious people and that they have objectively worse skin. Dutton, ever the evolutionist, opines that this is because we have been selected to be religious over thousands of years of evolution. Hence, those who are atheists reflect mutant genes in the brain and people with mental mutations are more likely to have physical ones. This explains their asymmetrical features and asymmetrical brains, leading to left-handedness.


You may recall that I was among the first to observe that atheists are neurologically atypical and that atheism is essentially a particular characteristic of being on the autism spectrum. It's not a coincidence that you can often pick out an atheist by his appearance.

However, the link between psychology, personality, and intelligence on the one hand and appearance on the other involves considerably more than our genes, it also involves our choices and behavior. When we see a man who is slender and clear-eyed at 60, we can safely conclude that he is both intelligent and self-disciplined, just as we can reliably reach the opposite conclusion of a child who is obese at the age of 12.

Vox Day, Vox Popoli 5 Comments [4/18/2018 1:17:54 PM]
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Quote# 137860

If overpopulation is a genuine concern, then the West should stop sending food to Africa, stop intervening in Third World wars, and permit the African and Asian populations to fall back to the levels they were prior to World War II.

Vox Day, Vox Popoli 7 Comments [4/18/2018 1:16:29 PM]
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