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Quote# 96812

Please don’t confuse what the men who run the Church teach and do with what the Church actually teaches. Our pope can spout off all the stupid, embarrassing horseshit he wants, but it’s all just one man’s opinion. His official teaching can’t contradict a word of what the popes before him have taught, because it was all handed down from Christ Himself.

God sent this pope, and the faggot bishops and priests, as a punishment. We Catholics have strayed from what the Church teaches and we have the pope and bishops we deserve. May God give us the strength to suffer the ridicule, ignominy, and shame that our pope and the current crop of limp-wristed, Koran-humping hypocrite bishops are going to bring upon us.

Shibes Meadow, Occidental Dissent 25 Comments [9/30/2013 6:07:33 PM]
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Submitted By: Rabbit of Caerbannog

Quote# 96809

I just read in Wikipedia:

"Islam in Australia is a minority religious group. According to the 2011 census, 1,457,300 people, or 2.2%[1] of the total Australian population were Muslims. This made Islam the fourth largest religious grouping, after all forms of Christianity(64%), no religion (22.9%) and Buddhism (2.5%). Demographers attribute Muslim community growth trends during the most recent census period to relatively high birth rates, and recent immigration patterns.[2][3]"

So, almost a quarter of the population has no religion or are agnostic or atheist. If the Christians and the agnostics/atheists genuinely talk to each other and actively listen also rather than just hurling their own arguments at the other, then, I believe, they have no choice but to become Muslims.

Zia H. Shah MD, The Muslim Times 25 Comments [9/30/2013 6:07:09 PM]
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Quote# 96807

A man who threw bacon into an Edinburgh mosque has been jailed for 10 months.

Wayne Stilwell, 25, was caught on security cameras attaching the bacon to the handles of the main door at Edinburgh's Central Mosque.

He then threw the bacon inside the building, knowing Muslims regard pork as unclean.

At Edinburgh Sheriff Court earlier he pled guilty to causing a breach of the peace. His lawyer said Stilwell was sorry for his crime.

Sheriff Gordon Liddle said his actions had been "grossly offensive" and jailed him for 10 months.

Sheriff Liddle said: "A custodial sentence is inevitable."

The city's sheriff court heard that Islam prohibits its followers from consuming products made of pork - and Stilwell's actions, on 31 January 2013, offended people at the mosque.

Sentence had been deferred on Stilwell, a prisoner of HMP Edinburgh, for background reports.

On Tuesday, defence solicitor Matthew Nicholson told the court his client was sorry for his crime and accepted that he would be going to prison.

Wayne Stilwell, BBC 34 Comments [9/30/2013 2:38:26 PM]
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Submitted By: Bleep

Quote# 96800

(Apparently the end of the world will start on September 26, 2013, so make your social calendar accordingly)

“The Three Days of Darkness” warned by many Catholic Saint’s such as St. Padre Pio, Blessed Maria Tiaggi and others, happens on a Thurs, Fri, and Sat.

The description:

God placed this “sun or comet” that is one million times the size of our Sun in the Universe at the beginning of time. God, knowing all and who can see the future, seen that men would be eventually fall into depravity and near total evil, placed this comet to pass the earth at a certain time in the future. It is so large and travelling so fast that we do not see it until it passes its closest diameter to the earth, thus we see it only a few days before that time. It’s tail is millions of miles long and when the “head” of the comet has long passed this point, comes a time when the earth’s gravitational pull has a greater pull on the end of the tail than does the head long gone. A portion of the end of the tail breaks off and comes towards the earth and the gases in it that combine with our atmosphere cause a massive explosion covering one half of the earth leaving a cloud so dense that the sun and all light is blocked out for three days and nights.

Also, this explosion on the N.American side of the earth causes a vacuum and the air on the other side of the earth ruses in to replace the vacuum causing a massive storm of unprecedented magnitude. For three days and night “nothing” will light, not even any artificial light, matches, nothing.

All hell will be let loose from the earth as at that time (now) people will no longer believe in hell or that it is centered in the bowels of the earth. Everyone outside will be killed good and bad alike, the good will be put to sleep, so to speak, the bad will be dragged to hell by the demons that they had been serving knowingly or unknowningly. All of Freemasonry and all those who were enemies of both God and His Church, will be killed.

The Three Day’s of Darkness happens at the end of a “four year WW3? and is the final event of that war that forces and causes the end of that war at which time a total of over 3/4 of the world will be dead in this great chastisement.

Following will come the greatest era of peace and prosperity the world has ever seen and the Golden Age of Christianity. The Church will be purified of its enemies both outside and “inside” and there will be only one Christian religion – The One Holy Catholic Apostolic Roman Church of Christ, now purified of all its “apostates and heretics” in the hierarchy and in its body, all the traditions of the Church will return both in doctrine, law and practice that have now been abandoned for modernism and a modern god.

Search or Google: The Three Day’s of Darkness

If you are lucky and fortunate to get through the coming civil war and revolution followed by WW3 up until the last days and get through the Three Days’ Darkness” – how lucky and fortunate you will be – as they say all those who survive will think the whole world was erradicated.


Jarheadusmc, Before It's News 54 Comments [9/30/2013 3:31:22 AM]
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Quote# 96796

[someone asked if there was any proof of a "firmament" having existed]

hold on a minute, this is not a ridiculous claim, and you should give your mother more credibility since she has more experience in life ! Things that you are taught in school and which you read in the popualr media are not always true. I know this to be a fact since I have done years of research in this and other fields.
\ First of all there is no "proof" one way or the other and none will ever be found. However there is a ton of evidence, as I will explain.
I have looked into this matter and researched. it There is strong evidence for example that there was a great flood of which the Bible speaks and which incidentally is recorded in many cultures around the world, not just the Bible. It seems very likely that the flood occurred as a result of a global catastrophic climate change . This was the end of the ice age about 12,500 years ago. Before this great flood the sky was different and no sun or Moon could be seen - just a massive cloud cover.
The great climate change occurred due to some great Earth changes whcih altered the currents of the oceans worldwide. The ocean currents also reciprocate by influencing th climate. The jets streams are also very important in climatology.
This climate change is thought that this was due perhaps to a global 'volcanic winter'; which was triggered by many volcanoes going off at once around the world. This is a very long and complex story and there are many factors to be considered. Remember that the Bible says in Genesis that "the world was barren and laid waste"... this is precisely what would occur in this scenario.
Read up on the Siberian flats or the Deccan Flats for exam,ple. The Siberian Flats is an area in Siberia as big as the continental USA which is covered with volcanoes . The depth of the lava over this entire region is abvout 5000 feet (one mile). There is much to learn about the ancient history of the Earth. and I cant include it all here.
There are even Western scientists who do believe that there was an atomic war on this planet long ago. The evidence can be seen in the rock layers. In fact this is commonly believed in the Hindu philosophy / religion.

Source(s):

research Bible, history, geology, paleontology, climatology, mythology, etc..

Prometheus, Yahoo Answers 28 Comments [9/30/2013 3:28:44 AM]
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Submitted By: Nemo

Quote# 96792

A corollary of light photons having an absolute speed, its measurement as such, not being subject to the relative motions of the rest of objects in space-time, is that its origin is a non-local reference-frame.

Moreover, how else can you explain that curious phenomenon other than the supervening of an omniscient and omnipotent being, aka God? Since such agent needs to know who (which potential Observers) are motionless or traveling at a constant speed, where on the globe, and at what speed, in order to adjust the speed of such photons to always hit said traveling object at its absolute speed.

That is, unless we have two worlds coinhering – which is what the mainstream religions attest. Certainly Christianity.


Axel, Uncommon Descent 26 Comments [9/30/2013 3:22:21 AM]
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Quote# 96789

[A Christian bakery in Oregon would rather close down than make a wedding cake for a same-sex couple.]

There are gays and lesbians, and there are faggots and dykes. From Mexifornia North...

[...]

This is typical militant faggotry. There are no doubt gay-owned bakeries that would have served them. However, they deliberately chose a Christian bakery specifically to have a reason to whine and bitch to the state because there was "dis-KRIM-inashun". That's the way the insufferable homosexual extremists operate. And then the militant homos feign amazement and shock when straights express contempt for them.

For the record, those two dykes and the heterophobic fagtivists who are making life hell for the Kleins are a loathsome, hateful minority of the queer minority. They are textbook latte-drinking, Prius-driving, Birkenstock liberals, virulently anti-Christian and totally intolerant of anyone who does not grovel obsequiously at their feet.

They are no more loved or respected by the majority of gays and lesbians than by the straights. If anything, they are even more detested by gays because they create a grotesque, offensive public persona that undoes years of patient, constructive, out-of-the-limelight dialog and interaction.

The bitches are getting their 15 minutes of unmerited fame at a great cost.

DoctorDoom, Where Liberty Dwells 41 Comments [9/30/2013 3:21:53 AM]
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Quote# 96786

[About the 1970 Kent State massacre.]

The "massacxre" was itself a leftist bad joke, with outside pinko agitators stirring the shite on campus (the same loathsome vermin who spat on returning Nam vets and called them baby-killers). The infamous photo of the wailing bitch kneeling over the body of a vicftim was a photo op, with the non-student slut running over to exploit the moment for the press cameras.

Far from abhoring the violence on the campus, the useful idiots were hoping for it. Thet were instigating it. They were constantly provoking the National Guard members, including, by some rerports, offering them iced drinks with glass shards in the ice.

If Kent State had anything to regret, it was allowing the hateful, treasonous neo-commie assholes to invade the campus and turn the demonstrations into a "massacre".

DoctorDoom, Where Liberty Dwells 31 Comments [9/30/2013 3:21:21 AM]
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Quote# 96784

[My qualm isn't specifically the things written in the Bible because they sound a lot like they were written by man and as we both know, it was written by men. My own mother believes so, and follows the god of love she believes exists and I certainly don't accuse her of anything. You know why?]

I really do not care. You seem to be equating "written by men" with "fiction", and yet man does write non-fiction too; and I might point out to you, that outside of poetry, fiction had not been invented 2,000 years ago.

Aractus, AtheistForums.org 31 Comments [9/30/2013 3:20:55 AM]
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Submitted By: Stimbo

Quote# 96782

MID-SEPTEMBER WARNING FOR ALL CHRISTIANS USA!

MID-SEPTEMBER MARKS THE BEGINNING OF SATANIST STALKING OF VICTIMS FOR HALLOWEEN HUMAN SACRIFICE.

Here are practical protective measures to take to protect yourself and your loved ones from satanist "hunters and huntresses" prowling the neighborhoods of America as they hunt for victims for human sacrifice for HALLOWEEN this year.

They traditionally begin 6 weeks in advance of Halloween, or Samhain.

-Do NOT go hiking alone in desolate or wilderness regions of America. Use the buddy system when camping or hiking in wilderness regions or isolated hiking trails. Take preventative measures: be armed if possible with a firearm (handgun) and bear spray. Try to obtain a satellite cell phone to maintain communications whenever possible.

Former satanists admitted to me they had trained abduction teams planted even in national forests and along well known hiking trails. "We got more victims that way, " one former satanist admitted.

-Do NOT allow your children to walk home in the dark unattended, or to play unattended in parks or playgrounds. Do NOT leave children unattended in malls or shopping locations. Do NOT leave infants in carriers or strollers unattended or unwatched even momentarily. WATCH YOUR CHILDREN!

-NEVER hitchhike! The people who pick you up could be SATANISTS looking for one more victim!

-Do NOT jog on lone country roads or isolated regions. All it takes is 30 seconds for a satanist abduction van to pull up alongside the victim, their trained abduction teams to jump out and seize the hiker/jogger/hitchhiker and drag the victim into the van, inject victim with a knockout drug, duct tape hands and feet and mouth and haul the hapless victim to the location of the ritual to be held.

-BEWARE of vans with blacked out windows on the sides and back, in which you cannot see beyond the driver and passenger seats. In the back may be their trained abduction team ready to seize their next victim. Beware of suspicious vans slowing driving down residential areas, especially in the dark and late at night, as if watching for people walking down the sidewalk.

Rental trucks and camper vehicles can also be used for such purposes as well.

-Satanist tactics and also include slipping knock out drugs into drinks or food at parties. And when targeted victim passes out, they then "assist the person home" and haul them away instead to the place to be held for human sacrifice.

Former satanists I have interviewed admitted to me that stalking victims for human sacrifice on Halloween (30, 31, and November 1) begins mid-September. This means six weeks of satanist prowlers and vans filled with abduction teams, stalking victims in earnest all across our nation.

Always remember that Jesus Christ was manifested to DESTROY the works of the devil. I encourage all Christian readers to enter into powerful spiritual warfare and tear down Satan's strategies for abduction and human sacrifice as this Halloween season and time of spiritual darkness nears.

Thank YOU for taking the time to lift up the Name of Jesus against this darkness, and to pray and to tear down the kingdom of Satan across this nation...and throughout the world as well!

Pamela Rae Schuffert, AMERICAN HOLOCAUST and The Coming NEW WORLD ORDER 47 Comments [9/30/2013 3:19:26 AM]
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Submitted By: Hasan Prishtina

Quote# 96781

[Letter to the British People]

Britain was one of the first countries of the world to be Christianized, and it’s role in bringing the light of Christ to the rest of the world is virtually unmatched. But today, Britain’s lamp stand is being removed. She has lost her first love and refuses to repent. Her state church has turned to apostasy and her people have fallen prey to false religions and atheism, like sheep without a shepherd.

[...]

From what I have observed in the recent history of Britain, the greatest impediment to Christianity is her own state church, whose recent response to sensing disaffection in the younger generation is the astonishing plan to promote homosexuality to them instead of teaching them Christian virtue and the blessings of authentic marriage.

The American Declaration of Independence from Britain in the 1700s insists that “When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another…a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.” I suggest that the time has come for the genuine Bible-believing Christians of Britain to declare independence from the Anglican Church, and to declare plainly to the nation that its ruler-ship over them has become illegitimate.

[...]

All of the many denominations and variations of Christian expression existing in Britain today have equal claim to promise of the First Principle of the Magna Charta, a promise which is in truth a binding covenant upon the British government “in perpetuity,” meaning forever! They were all, as it were, “in the loins” of the universal church of that day, and are “heirs” of the covenant.

This venerable document, the cornerstone and foundation of all human rights law in the world today will celebrate its 800th Anniversary on June 15th, 2015. I urge the Christians of Britain to seize the opportunity of that global celebration, and the time of preparation for it, to rally the true church of Britain (those who love Christ and His Word) to lead the nation in repentance and a return to their first love.

Perhaps by reminder of the lesser covenant of the Magna Charta, the people will be reacquainted with the greater covenant of Christ, and by turning back to Him, will preserve their great privilege to be called a Christian nation, with all of the many blessings that entails.

Scott Lively, Scott Lively Ministries 34 Comments [9/30/2013 3:19:08 AM]
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Quote# 96706

[Describing his time as a Satansit before converting to Christianity]

Satan, in this meeting, gave us the following instructions : To fight the believers and not the unbelievers, because the unbelievers were already his. When he said this, one of us asked : “Why ?” He said the reason was that God drove him out of ‘that place” (he refused to call the word ‘Heaven’ and all throughout our meetings with him he never mentioned the word ‘Heaven’. Rather he would always use the word ‘that place’) because of pride, and therefore he does not want any christian to get there (Heaven).

He also told us that we should not fight the hypocrites. “They are like me”, he said. He continued his speech and said : “We should only fight the real Christians.” That his time was near, therefore “we should fight as never before and make sure no one enters 'that place'.” So one of us said to him : “We heard that God has sent someone to rescue mankind back to God.” Satan then asked : “Who is that ?” One member answered “Jesus” and to our greatest surprise, Lucifer fell from his seat. He shouted at the man and warned him never to mention that name in any of our meetings if he loves his life.

[...]

This was my first meeting with Satan. Several others followed after this meeting. As we were leaving, the Queen of the Coast, who now appears in different forms, invited me to her mansion. She inserted human ashes with other things inside the bones of my two legs, a stone (not an ordinary stone) in my finger and something else inside the bone of my right hand.

Each of these things had their duties. The stone in my finger was to know the thought of anyone against me. The one in my right hand was to empower me to destroy and the ones in the legs are to make me more hardened and to become more dangerous and also to enable me change to a woman, beast, bird, cat, etc. She took me to one of the laboratories and gave me a telescope, a T.V. and a video. These were not ordinary things but were to be used in detecting the born again Christians and the church goers inside the Church.

Emmanuel Eni, Insights of God 53 Comments [9/29/2013 5:29:29 AM]
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Quote# 96538

Since people didn’t respond to it properly last time, here it is again:

I’ve long believed that there are numerous liberal policies that have contributed to the moral decline, and collapse of marriage and family, in the US and UK especially. Here are some changes that I’d like to see. Feel free to tear into it if you think you have better ideas.

[....]

6. Sex-Reassignment- Sex change operations and hormone replacement therapy are banned. If a person wishes to go to another country to obtain such services, they will surrender their US citizenship. This does not apply to people who are born with gender irregularity or ambiguous genitalia. Those situations will be dealt with by parents and medical professionals. Whatever procedures and therapies are necessary will remain available for those affected individuals.

7. Alternate Lifestyles in the Public Arena- Alternate lifestyles such as homosexuality or transgenderism in one’s private life will not be made illegal, but expression of those lifestyles shall remain private. Further, propaganda portraying alternate lifestyles in a positive light will be banned. Fines and penalties for disseminating propaganda, written or verbal, or public displays to or around children below 18 will be doubled.

[....]

Corporal punishment will be re-instituted in public schools and will be enforced by the Principal, at his/her discretion, but will be used only after 2 other attempts to change the offensive behavior have failed, including parental notification.

annejones, Pharyngula 28 Comments [9/29/2013 5:27:59 AM]
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Submitted By: Night Jaguar

Quote# 96517

God demonstrated the greatest act of generosity the world has ever known when He gave His Son to become the sacrifice for our sin. “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life” (John 3:16).

When you are born again, you are given a new ancestry, or noble birth, from God. As a result, we become disposed to do things His way.

Before receiving salvation we have a tendency to do things in a certain manner—because of how we were raised, our experiences, and the choices we make. However, when we receive Jesus, our old disposition is gone and replaced with one that is brand new.

Now we have a desire to do the things of God instead of things of the flesh. Our character and personality are transformed to be more like the Savior’s.

However, if we hold onto our old disposition and decide not to accept our new ancestry, we remain in our common birth instead of living in our new noble birth.

I have marvelous news for you. Even if you were raised in a family with a myriad of problems and dysfunctions, the past can be buried. No longer are you able to blame the way you were raised, the color of your skin, or the abuse you endured. Now you are of noble birth and no more a victim of circumstances —unless you decide to stay one.

As a believer you can claim your “noble birth.”

We are elevated to the ranks of prince and princess in God’s family.

Because of salvation your limitations are behind you and you possess all the rights and privileges of nobility—including a generous spirit. Your new Father is the King of kings and Lord of lords. His giving spirit is now an attribute of your character.

Instead of being a victim, you are now a victor. You’ve exchanged being stingy for being successful.

Remember, the stingy or greedy person is closefisted, covets, and only shares reluctantly. It is an individual who is focused on his or her, wants, needs, hopes, and desires.

Since you are a new person in Christ, don’t allow the habits and patterns of the past to drag you down. Shed any self-serving thinking and become the servant God expects you to be.

Your very core has been transformed. You now have the ability to overlook injury or insult—to rise above pettiness. No longer do you retaliate when someone offends you. Why, because you have the virtue and character that allows you to rise above unreasonable people. You practice forgiveness and shower them with favor and blessing.

It makes no difference what kind of family you were born into—even if it was poverty-stricken. That’s the natural side of life. However, there is a reason Jesus said, “You must be born again.” He wants you to have a totally new life—as a child of the King.

With a new, noble birth, your entire DNA has been changed. Your past circumstances no longer matter because you have been given the privileges of nobility. God, who is generous, has bestowed divine favor on you and there are absolutely no limitations to your future.

Pastor Steve Smothermon, Tony Cooke Ministries 26 Comments [9/29/2013 5:25:33 AM]
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Quote# 96201

On "rape in marriage" you are clearly wrong. Freedom of contract is morally superior, the traditional contract for the past two thousand years being that a man and a woman each gave their consent to sex once and forever:

The concept of "rape" in marriage defines marriage, as it was originally understood out of existence, marriage as it was originally understood being the power to bind our future selves to stick it out

According to the New Testament:

"let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.

The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.

Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time,"

If consent to sex is given moment to moment, rather than once and forever, then marriage cannot be a durable contract: Consent to marriage then has to be moment to moment, which is to say routine hooking up, rather than marriage, thus producing the present situation where men are reluctant to invest in children and posterity, and where eighty percent of fertile age women have sex with twenty percent of men.

The concept of "rape" in marriage defines women as incapable of contract. Like so much of feminism, it infantilizes women in the guise of empowering them.

Saint Paul phrased it more delicately than I phrase it, or people in the eighteenth century phrased it, but what he meant, and what he rather delicately implied, and what people in the eighteenth century said plainly enough, is that if a fertile age wife is not getting done by her husband, she will be getting done by someone else pretty soon, and if a fertile age wife knocks her husband back, she is probably thinking about getting done by someone higher status than her husband, and pretty soon will be so. If she violates the marital contract by not servicing her husband, she is about to violate the marital contract a lot more drastically.


sam0345, LessWrong 24 Comments [9/29/2013 5:05:33 AM]
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Submitted By: David

Quote# 96083

Single people who are battling to overcome loneliness are holding JESUS' hand so closely, they rarely if ever think about sex anymore!!!

Single Christian people cannot sit around worrying about sex, because we learned long ago that walking with JESUS closely is far FAR BETTER!

Married people have each other to cuddle with!!! I love hugging and cuddling, I do miss that!!!

So now that I am single, I ask JESUS to hold me real tight constantly day and night! Even using my imagination to see him holding me!!!

Cuddling with a wife would be real cool, having JESUS hold me real tight takes us both into eternity!!!!

The demons will fear a single Christian person who is heavily leaning on JESUS for his or her dear life, than a Christian MARRIED couple who are leaning on each other, that is for sure!

The demons know they can get the married couple to argue over money, over sex, over movies, over what to make for dinner!!!!

Now when the demons can torment a single person with loneliness, they know damn well we will get on our knees and cry out to JESUS!!!

The demons do not like when we get on our knees!! The demons do not like when we cry out to JESUS for help!!!!!

The demons know that as JESUS teaches you to overcome loneliness and isolation, you will be a very battle hardened soldier!!!!

Garrett Felender, Tears to Joy Ministries 36 Comments [9/29/2013 5:03:03 AM]
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Submitted By: Annelies

Quote# 96044

There has to be a force driving all the interest in gay life styles and gay rights parades etc.
[…]
In general they do seem to be Jews but it ought to be possible to get quite specific in regards to who they are.
What I find interesting is how many politicians, theatre and media peope are gay and even child molestors who get away with it for decades like the BBCs Jimmy Saville. A good example of a Canadian who got away with it for his whole life is the actor Bill Hutt.
Their numbers in the media, theatre and politics is way beyond normal, so far beyond normal that there must be a selection process.
So it does looks like the people with the big money select people with flawed personalities as leaders so they can control and manipulate them. For example, Canada’s former Prime Minister, Pierre Trudeau was a child molestor and during his latter years he was being controlled by a team from either the CIA or FBI. I forget which.
[…]
I suspect the selection process begins with fraternities and sororities at universities. Fraternities are famous for decadent initiations. Somebody scouts for the most flawed people they can find and promotes their careers.
I have been told but cannot confirm that people who take part in homosexual behaviour are at the top of the promotion list.
If you have ever attended a university you know them. They are mediocre non-entities like Barack Obama at schools whose careers suddenly sky rocket to the top of the political, theatrical or media spectrum for reasons which are not obvious to people who know them. The only things they seem to have to do well are dress and speak well.
Image people with serious flaws by which they can be manipulated. Nothing else seems to matter.

Ted Gorsline, Real Jew News 14 Comments [9/29/2013 4:36:19 AM]
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Submitted By: Wykked Wytch

Quote# 95937

A Kuwaiti woman who once ran for parliament has called for sex slavery to be legalised - and suggested that non-Muslim prisoners from war-torn countries would make suitable concubines.

Salwa al Mutairi argued buying a sex-slave would protect decent, devout and 'virile' Kuwaiti men from adultery because buying an imported sex partner would be tantamount to marriage.

And she even had an idea of where to 'purchase' these sex-salves - browsing through female prisoners of war in other countries.

The political activist and TV host even suggested that it would be a better life for women in warring countries as the might die of starvation.

Mutairi claimed: 'There was no shame in it and it is not haram' (forbidden) under Islamic Sharia law.'


Salwa al Mutairi, Daily Mail 40 Comments [9/29/2013 4:35:16 AM]
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Submitted By: Hazelnut

Quote# 95929

Many people wait until marriage to have sex. If gay men often wait until marriage to have sex than marriage will encourage them to have sex. Many gay men are getting AIDS via sex.

http://healthland.time.com/2012/07/20/hiv-continues-to-spread-among-gay-men-studies-show/

Gays have a higher rate of HIV/AIDS than normal people do in several nations. Gay marriage harms gays. I bet you are surprised by this news.

Freiheit Reich, NationStates 21 Comments [9/29/2013 4:35:02 AM]
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Submitted By: Tsuntion

Quote# 95927

I suppose that you both have your own form of pagan worship but what I have said is only the truth and comes from the history of paganism. May be you could read up on it and see how much Baal who is all the gods of paganism and beliefs in one are all classed as false.

All the gods and pagan beliefs stem from the worship of baal. Read up on it..

By all means we accept you believe your paganism beliefs are the right ones as you point out to Christians of different denominations. You can hardly point the finger when we tell you the same about yours. Now I want to know who is pulling whose strings?

The fact is your few years of being a pagan has given you very little knowledge as mixing with people who have taken their lives to the level of living it. Not at weekends or by quoting books but actually doing it.

I feel you are both unfair when it comes to the beliefs or truths actually in print about paganism and the affect of all religions on it. You cannot change history to fit into your own forms of paganism or the facts that all forms of paganism fit in to that which created and the earth and skies themselves. Including the sun.

Now let us stop this false shouting about anyone being wrong. You are not the only pagans and you HT have said you have your own individual beliefs. As no two pagans agree on their beliefs hardly gives you a platform to tell anyone else what they have learned from the history books.. does it?


Sassy, Religion and Ethics 16 Comments [9/29/2013 4:33:42 AM]
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Submitted By: NearlySane

Quote# 95926

I enjoy the messages in the Holy Bible that are often inferred rather than spoken...although...in this instance it is both spoken and inferred.

Jesus Christ never once speaks of his father in any other terms except ones of loyalty, respect, solid faith and wonderful exclamations of joy about him...I suggest that this is accurate teaching and that any ridicule, lavatorial or otherwise is disrespectful.

The utter collapse of our mental functions, as in dementia, has to start somewhere and I am suggesting here that that cause could well stem from how respectful we do things, especially when there is a clear relationship between promiscuity and the destruction of healthy stem cell material within us.

If this is correct, there are stepping stones into our degenerating health and rubbishing what is clearly an aid to health...is one of those possible links...because, after all, Jesus Christ says he is the way, the truth and the life...and I believe him.


NicholasMarks, Religion and Ethics 13 Comments [9/29/2013 4:33:19 AM]
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Submitted By: NearlySane

Quote# 95845

*Discussion is about Archbishop Desmond Tutu saying he would not worship a homophobic god*

Eh, Tutu ceased to be of any relevance a long time ago. This is just one of his latest bids for attention.

The guy never should have been admitted to a church, anyroad. He's hardly a model Christian.

Lydenburg, Nationstates 15 Comments [9/29/2013 4:30:46 AM]
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Submitted By: zyr

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I attended a recent "gay pride" parade in Columbus. I'd been to one a few years earlier, and the bad news is that the event has grown much, much larger.

Corporate support is everywhere. Macy's, J.P. Morgan Chase, Bank of America, JC Penney, Chipotle, Frito-Lay, and many others. Local Ohio banks, Fifth-Third and Huntington. American Family Insurance. All had sizeable contingents of marchers and banners.

So the continuing high incidence of HIV among males who have sex with males, generating around 29,000 new cases per year in the U.S., is acceptable to these companies and their boards of directors? Just asking. This abundant fruit, so to speak, of the homosexual community is now ignored by the media and considered a big yawn, except by those infected, of course.

JC Penney even sponsored a "Teen Village," with activities for teens from ages 13 to 19 well into Saturday evening following the parade. Aside from the disturbing thought of 13- year- olds socializing with 19- year- olds (apparently no one is concerned here about the potential for child molestation), the teen program advertised that it would include performances by "drag queens and kings," which are males and females flamboyantly dressed as the opposite sex.

And we wonder why some kids are seriously messed up?

Also among the parade marchers were proud politicians. And churches: Episcopal, United Methodist, Evangelical Lutheran and Metropolitan Community Churches, which are founded on a pro-homosexual platform.

One banner from the New Creation Metropolitan Community Church included a prominent slogan: "United Against the Flood of Homophobia." I looked around. There were thousands of cheering people and not one visible expression of homophobia, or even disapproval, much less anything like a flood. And of course, the lavish parade itself, including banners on all the city streetlight poles, was allowed on Columbus' main thoroughfare. Hyperbole, anyone? But no surprise. This movement has cut its teeth on over-the-top whining and victim posturing.

The most disturbing element was the children, lots of them, many with some sort of rainbow jewelry, flag or banner on a stroller. Signs like, "I love my two dads," which the nine or ten-year old next to "dad" had stopped holding and dad was doing for him. Again, what about the mom deliberately left out of this picture? Children want to know both their moms and their dads. To deny them this, is to be selfish, immature parents.

What these folks are proud of is deeply disturbing as a cultural trend but more importantly as an indicator of the depraved values they accept and are working actively to promote. Homosexuality is profoundly disordered, is often harmful physically [think, anal sex between two guys], is empty of the creation of new life, and ends up hurting the participants themselves as well as those to whom their lives are connected. And it's not "hate" to say so-just fact.

Homosexuality is also a considerable threat to religious liberty and free speech, as the demand to show "respect" for these lifestyles is fast becoming a club to silence people who won't assent and don't want homosexual approval taught to their children. The leaders of this movement talk about tolerance, but check out what they do, not what they say. The unfounded harassment incidents are starting to pile up.

Linda Harvey, Mission: America 20 Comments [9/29/2013 4:30:39 AM]
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Submitted By: Hasan Prishtina

Quote# 95179

Rebecca Hamilton, Catholic Blogger and 17-year member of the Oklahoma House of Representatives, comments on the case of Barronelle Stutzman, a florist in WA that is being sued for refusing to provide flowers for a gay wedding.

Selling flowers to gay customers or employing gay people are both well within Christian behavior. In fact, treating gay people like people is pretty much a requirement of following Jesus. Providing flowers for a gay wedding, on the other hand, would have put Ms Stutzman in the position of actively participating in something that just about all traditional Christians regard as sinful. It is a violation of what Jesus intended for marriage to be, and, many people believe, will do great harm to the already damaged institution of marriage.

To use an analogy, if someone who was getting ready to rob bank came into your store and wanted to buy a carton of milk for their lunch, selling them the milk would not make you part of their bank robbing. However, if they asked you to sell them a bag for the money, and they told you it would be used in a bank robbery, you would be part of the crime.

I am not equating bank robbery with gay marriage. They are entirely different. I just used that as an illustration.

The point here is that to compel someone to participate in an action that they regard as sinful is a violation of their human dignity and their right as human beings and American citizens to decide these things for themselves. Even if bank robbery was legal, if a store owner still believes that theft is a sin, they should have the right to refuse to sell the erstwhile robber the bag for the loot.

Rebecca Hamilton, Patheos 19 Comments [9/29/2013 4:30:36 AM]
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Submitted By: emau99

Quote# 96778

I do wish that the Herald editorial team would stop presenting Carl Sagan science fiction gibberish dressed up as if it were fact (''The little spacecraft that could'', September 14-15). It occurred over the weekend, when we were fed a far-fetched story about a space vehicle named Voyager and interstellar exploration.

This is the same type of pseudo scientific mumbo jumbo that exploiters of the public purse have been doing with climate change over many years. It is arrant nonsense and has to stop right here and now. The Herald does itself no favours by printing it, pretending that the sci-fi exaggerations are factual.

Bill Thomas, The Sydney Morning Herald 33 Comments [9/27/2013 7:37:16 PM]
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