Quote# 84581

[Harold] Camping had originally said that those selected for salvation would be raptured up to heaven on May 21, and those left behind would face months of judgment amid destruction before the world's end on October 21.

The Family Radio website tweaked the prediction after May 21, saying God had shown mercy by sparing people five months of suffering. But final judgment was still slated to come on October 21, when salvation and the world's destruction would happen at once.

[...]

The faith of Camping's most ardent followers was not swayed by the recent news.

According to Fred Store, a longtime Family Radio listener, the general belief is "Judgment Day did in fact occur on May 21."

Harold Camping & Fred Store, CNN 48 Comments [10/31/2011 3:17:08 AM]
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Submitted By: Night Jaguar

Quote# 84523

[On the subject of U.S. troops leaving Iraq by the end of the year.]

Getting kicked out of Iraq is what it is. The proper way to exit would have been taking oil equal to the amount of $ spent trying to civilize the impossible. Our soldiers’ blood spilt for a useless cause so now we take what’s owed and the heathens can go on eating each other. Shouldn’t you be playing drums somewhere and sharing a tent with a dreadlocked dope dealer? Wash your armpits.

IslandLifer, Moonbattery 74 Comments [10/30/2011 4:46:26 AM]
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Submitted By: Rabbit of Caerbannog

Quote# 84466

At least three people in London with HIV have died after they stopped taking life saving drugs on the advice of their Evangelical Christian pastors.

The women died after attending churches in London where they were encouraged to stop taking the antiretroviral drugs in the belief that God would heal them, their friends and a leading HIV doctor said.

...Jane Iwu, 48, from Newham, east London, described one case, saying: "I know of a friend who had been to a pastor. She told her to stop taking her medication - that God is a healer and has healed her."

"This lady believed it. She stopped taking her medication. She passed away," said Ms Iwu, who has HIV herself.

.. the Synagogue Church Of All Nations (SCOAN), which has UK headquarters in Southwark, south London, may be one of those involved in such practices.

The church is headed by Pastor T B Joshua, Nigeria's third richest clergyman, according to a recent Forbes richlist.

When approached by BBC London, leaders of the church described themselves as Evangelical Christian pastors.

The church's website, which was set up in Lagos, Nigeria, shows photos of people the church claims have been "cured" of HIV through prayer.

In one example, the church's website claims: "Mrs Badmus proudly displays her two different medical records confirming she is 100% free from HIV-Aids following the prayer of Pastor T B Joshua."

"HIV-Aids healing" is listed on the church's website among "miracles" it says it can perform.

"Cancer healing" and "baby miracles" are also advertised.



SCOAN, BBC News 68 Comments [10/30/2011 4:46:08 AM]
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Submitted By: Damned at Random

Quote# 84556

All people deserve not to be just left behind we all deserve hell, and like salvation being caught away in the rapture is by the grace of God for Christians only.... Those who haven't accepted Christ like atheist you mention, they do indeed deserve to be left behind..... Atheist I debate with all time make statements about how they hate Christians and how the world would be a better place without us - well they'll get their wish after the rapture... I just wonder if they will like whats coming in the tribulation better?.. I often wonder if they will come to their right minds and repent, but after talking with hundreds of them over the years most of them will be the first ones to follow the anti - Christ for sure.

Glory in print, RR 58 Comments [10/30/2011 4:40:34 AM]
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Submitted By: Frank

Quote# 84507



Again, I do not know why Oct 21 appears to have failed, but my REST and HOPE is still in the Lord.

We are living in very interesting days, the fulfillment of the Bible itself.

The Rapture will occur in only a BLINK of an Eye so God can bring about the Rapture at the very last moment.

I wish I knew why God tarried on Oct 21 but perhaps others are correct that the Rapture will take place tonight, or even tomorrow, Sunday.

But even if nothing happens tonight, or tomorrow, the Lord is still my strength. Everything I learned I still hold to because they are the TRUTH!

Like I said, we are living in very interesting times.

May the Lord's perfect will be done!

TrueBeliever, Depart Out 85 Comments [10/29/2011 3:49:56 AM]
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Quote# 84542

“How do you feel about open homosexuals tending to your child in a health care setting? Do you think these folks provide good role modeling at a time when your child is very vulnerable? I was thinking about this recently when I heard that Children’s Hospital in Columbus has a homosexual employees group called NCHARGE, which stands for Nationwide Children’s Hospital’s Advocates Representing Gay Employees. The meeting minutes of this groups reveal that they participated in last June’s gay pride parade, that they participated in a health expo on adolescent health this summer and that they’re concerned about same-sex partner benefits. They’re also planning to be identified with rainbow lapel pins.

But let’s say your eleven year-old has broken her leg rather badly and needs to be in the hospital a few days, which would you prefer: a nurse who’s proud of her lesbianism, who has rainbow identifiers on her work clothing, or a nurse who does not?

I would like to suggest that parents think long and hard about this. If you want your children to admire people who proclaim a homosexual lifestyle, they’re involvement with your child during a hospital stay is sure to be an influence. And let me be clear that folks involved in these behaviors can be certainly competent workers but they are tacking on to their workplace identity one that is highly offensive to many people and can be erroneously influential to children who won’t, or shouldn’t, see the whole picture of how this behavior really manifests itself.

Here’s what parents can do: select your pediatrician very carefully, first of all. There are a few homosexual doctors treating kids, there are far more nurses, LPNs, technicians and other health care workers in these lifestyles so you may want to consider writing a letter that you file with your pediatrician that should your child ever be hospitalized, you do not want your child to be treated or cared for by one of these members of the Children’s Hospital gay employees group except in the case of an emergency situation. But for routine in-hospital care where contact with your child would be required, your values should be respected.”

Linda Harvey, Addicting Info 101 Comments [10/28/2011 3:26:43 AM]
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Submitted By: JSS

Quote# 84541

Everything that lives is from a first one of its kind; from the first of its genome; a genome created by God. Every genome created after the archangel genome decreases in intelligence and capabilities (which equates to power). The angel genome is lower than the archangel genome. The cherub genome is lower than the angel genome. The immortal genome of a solar system (the humanoid in Earth's case) is lower than the cherub genome. The highest mortal genome of a solar system (the Neanderthal in Earth's case, but now reduced to apes) is lower than the immortal genome of a solar system

Michael Barry, The Immortal Kingdom Of A Universe 65 Comments [10/28/2011 3:25:27 AM]
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Submitted By: Night Jaguar

Quote# 84511

[re: the lack of knowledgeable scholars working on the Conservative Bible Project]

The Greek and Hebrew languages are well understood and readily available to any internet user. In this electronic age a laptop and a browser are superior to (and fast than) the finest Greek/Hebrew scholar. Some may wince at that observation, but it's the same reason that sales of the Encyclopedia Britannica declined and Borders has gone bankrupt.

The real challenge to a Bible translation today is the ever-changing English language into which the Greek/Hebrew must be translated. English terms like "peace be with you" are constantly changing their meaning and a good translation has to have enough political savvy to react to liberal and atheistic biases that creep into language. See liberal creep!

The objection to the Conservative Bible Project is like saying an engineer should not try to build a bridge unless he first becomes a master in trigonometry. That objection doesn't work, because the trigonometry is well-understood and modern challenges in building a good bridge have little to do with sine and cosine functions.

The CBP stacks up favorably against any academic translation out there. You can pick a few verses, and so will I, and I bet CBP is better.

[Emphasis added]

Andy Schlafly, Conservative Bible Project 173 Comments [10/27/2011 2:57:16 AM]
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Submitted By: Night Jaguar

Quote# 84510

Our intellectual, cultural, and political elites are today engaged in one of the most audacious and ambitious experiments in history. They are trying to transform a Western Christian republic into an egalitarian democracy made up of all the tribes, races, creeds, and cultures of planet Earth. They have dethroned our God, purged our cradle faith from public life, and repudiated the Judeo-Christian moral code by which previous generations sought to live.

Pat Buchanan, Suicide of a Superpower 79 Comments [10/27/2011 2:56:49 AM]
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Submitted By: Smurfette Principle

Quote# 84508

Not until the 1960s did courts begin to use the Fourteenth Amendment to impose a concept of equality that the authors of the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, The Federalist Papers, and the Gettysburg Address never believed in. Before the 1960s, equality meant every citizen enjoyed the same constitutional rights and the equal protection of existing laws. Nothing in the Constitution or federal law mandated social, racial, or gender equality.

Pat Buchanan, Suicide of a Superpower 52 Comments [10/27/2011 2:56:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Smurfette Principle

Quote# 84502

I currently work as a paramedic. When the need arises, I must be able to provide sufficient care to any patient, or be able to refuse patient care if I deem that the area I'm in isn't safe enough. While working a few weeks ago, a lady had fallen, fractured her pelvis, broke a leg, had internal bleeding, and I had to treat her accordingly.

While treating her at her home, I was making small talk with her in an effort to ensure that she felt safe. She eventually laid back and asked if I was a church going person, to which I replied truthfully that I wasn't. This upset her so much, that she refused care from us any longer. She said,"I don't want a dirty athiest to be near me". Legally, if someone without any type of altered mental status refuses care, I cannot provide it. I asked her again, her family, and my medical director in attempts to change her mind, and I informed her of the circumstances. She still refused, so I had to get her to sign the proper documentation and then I left.

Shoot forward two days, and I learned that this woman had died due to internal bleeding, and cardial failure caused by the extraneous bleeding. At this moment, I feel extremely guilty because I was supposed to be caring for her. I didn't think it would be that much of a problem to her, knowing her provider at the moment wasn't a follower of religion. Now, I have to go to court for it. Her husband is attempting to sue(it won't go through since I have all the proper documents and followed proper protocols. Also, the Good Samaritan Laws help)since he thinks I'm the reason she passed.

Seriously? This is one of the reasons I think people shouldn't take on a religious belief. Not only do I have to go to court, but I feel extremely guilty this happened over a trivial matter.

anonymous fundie woman, reddit.com 116 Comments [10/26/2011 3:30:24 AM]
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Quote# 84499

[In response to "Ben & Jerry's supporting Wall Street mob. Seems like the wannabe socialists on Wall Street are gaining support..."]

You have to understand it's hard to come up with catchy flavor names. "Decadent Capitalist" and "Workers of the World Unite" were just too hard for customers to articulate.

You can just about list their subsequent complaints after reading the first one: "We find the inequality between classes immoral". I guess somebody's been reading Das Capital by Karl Marx. Or Coconuts by Groucho Marx.

Actually there is some truth to their complaint, but in a different way. I find the entirety of the planet "immoral" and needing a Saviour. I only see two "classes": the saved and the lost. On this site we are just as disturbed by that "inequality" as B&J, but I have yet to read a post suggesting that we take our issue to the streets and act like a bunch of hooligans.




Raphael, Rapture Ready 65 Comments [10/26/2011 3:24:13 AM]
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Submitted By: Tiberius

Quote# 84490

A Washington state woman will probably be more careful about whom she takes in as a roommate after her last one kidnapped her young sons because he believed the home was “infested with demons.”

Shane Soares allegedly grabbed the 3- and 4-year-old boys from their beds after midnight one day last week. When he was caught, he told Grant County sheriff’s deputies that “the Lord told him” to do it, police said.

Shane Soares , New York Post 44 Comments [10/25/2011 12:03:49 PM]
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Submitted By: whoanelly

Quote# 84478

[Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood] was known as a very promiscuous woman who jumped from sex partner to sex partner, which she referred to as her "voluntary mates." She was not only addicted to drugs, but was an occultist who was "Obsessed with numerology, astrology, and psychics." She wrote harshly against the idea of abstinence and self-control, stating that society should "Remove the constraints and prohibitions which now hinder the release of inner [sexual] energies…" She viewed abortion as not only a powerful weapon in the hands of eugenicists, but as an effective means of birth control. The fallout of her philosophies has been an increase in the rate of divorce, an epidemic in sexually transmitted diseases and the sacrifice of millions of children on the narcissistic altar of self.

Joe Schimmel, Blessed Hope Chapel 61 Comments [10/25/2011 11:56:01 AM]
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Submitted By: Dr. Flibble

Quote# 84449

Homosexual “marriage” is such a silly concept, since it is only about validating urges of putting one’s body parts or other objects into cavities that only produce disease and nihilism. For homosexuals demanding the ability to redefine thousands of years of tradition by calling their sick relationships—”marriage” to validate vile, demeaning acts and urges perpetrated on a human being and call it “love” is beyond rational thinking and should be discouraged through the legal system.

You have numerous cases of real “love” which doesn’t demand defiling bodies for ones lust—such as the love of a mother for her child. There need not be any laws demanding they be allowed to get “married”.

Forcing others to validate such sick, demeaning behaviors is unconstitutional and destroys the concept of our Constitution—that there are laws of nature and nature’s God—where our Natural Rights are given. We can not allow an atheist, Satanic view of the human body to destroy the concepts of the Constitution.

The stupidity of the left is beyond belief....all their ideas are bankrupt and if debate is allowed (political correctness is Marxism) they would be in the ash heap of history.

savagesusie, Free Republic 93 Comments [10/24/2011 3:35:08 AM]
Fundie Index: 105

Quote# 84403

Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain said Sunday that he didn't agree with abortion "under any circumstance."

The candidate, who has promised to work to overturn Roe v. Wade, told NBC's David Gregory that he believes in "life from conception."

"I do not agree with abortion under any circumstance," he insisted.

"Exceptions for rape and incest?" Gregory asked.

"Not for rape and incest," Cain replied. "Because if you look at rape and incest, the percentage of those instances is so miniscule that there are other options."

But when it came to cases where the life of the mother was at stake, the former Godfather's Pizza CEO left a little wiggle room.

"If it's the life of the mother, that family is going to have to make that decision.

Herman Cain, Crooks & Liars 75 Comments [10/24/2011 3:25:39 AM]
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Quote# 84374

(Slavery in the Americas is entirely the fault of Muslims.)

[M]aking concessions to Sharia law over against the moral code of the Judeo-Christian tradition is nothing new for America. We started doing it in 1619 when we began to tolerate the slave trade, as the first shipment of 30 African slaves arrived on the shores of Virginia ... The slaves who were brought here in chains in 1619 were Africans who had been kidnapped by other Africans and sold to slave traders who in turn brought them to America. The kidnappers, the ones who went into the interior of Africa to capture their fellow Africans to sell them into bondage, were predominantly Muslims.

...

Now, in contrast to Islam and Sharia, the Judeo-Christian tradition from day one has been adamantly opposed to the slave trade ... Moses flatly prohibited the slave trade under penalty of death. “Whoever steals a man and sells him, and anyone found in possession of him, shall be put to death” (Exodus 21:16). In other words, if a strictly biblical code had been followed in 1619, the slave trader who brought that ship to Virginia would have been arrested the moment he landed, prosecuted and hung by the neck until dead. The slaves on board would have been returned to their families and their homelands, and slavery would never have gained a foothold in the United States.

But sadly, we made our first concession to Sharia law in 1619 instead of being guided by the wisdom of Scripture, and we have paid a terrible price for it. Slavery became our first national sin, as abortion is today ... So if the early colonists had followed either the Old or New Testaments, the slave trade would have been treated as criminal behavior from the very beginning, and America never would have been plagued with all the myriad evils that slavery and racism have brought to our land.


Bryan Fischer, Rightly Concerned 45 Comments [10/24/2011 3:25:27 AM]
Fundie Index: 78

Quote# 84373

Look at the political base of the Democratic Party: it is single mothers who run a household. Why? Because it’s so tough economically that they look to the government for help and therefore they’re going to vote. So if you want to reduce the Democratic advantage, what you want to do is build two parent families, you eliminate that desire for government.

Rick Santorum, Right Wing Watch 54 Comments [10/24/2011 3:25:22 AM]
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Quote# 84423

[Re. the Lord's Resistance Army]

[F]rom what Rush said the other day, I understand that the LRA is a Christian Army/Militia taking out the Muslim filth that has destroyed through relentless genocide much of Africa, the so-called “Cradle of Civilization”. This is just another ILLEGAL action, by Ofuckhead the CLOSET/COVERT muslim to strike down more of the worlds Christians, like muslims like to do as well as killing the Jewish People with MORE ILLEGAL ACTIONS PUTTING ALL OF ISREAL’S SWORN ENEMIES INTO POWER IN ALL OF THE COUNTRIES SURROUNDING THEM IN ORDER TO PUSH THEM INTO THE SEA.

Joek Loth, Moonbattery 55 Comments [10/24/2011 1:33:14 AM]
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Quote# 84457

Now, I happen to think that none of us should rush in judgment of others in the way in which they approach God. And I think that all of us up here, I believe, would agree. But I think all of us would also agree that there's a very central part of your faith in how you approach public life, and I frankly would be really worried if someone assured me that nothing in their faith would affect their judgments, because then I'd wonder--how can you have judgment if you have no faith? How can I trust you with power if you don't pray? Who you pray to, how you pray, how you come close to God is between you and God, but the notion that you're endowed by your creator sets a certain boundary on what we mean by "America."

Newt Gingrich, Republican Presidential Debate 53 Comments [10/23/2011 5:07:20 AM]
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Submitted By: Wehpudicabok

Quote# 84456

... think about this: We Conservatives are 10 times tougher than these mentally-pink-panty wearing liberals, moderates, and RINOs, and we can survive better in severe hard times than they can, and besides that Spartan times produces a Spartan citizenry ...the same hot boiling sun that melts the butter also hardens the clay (soft warm butter is a good metaphore for liberals/moderates/RINOs don't ya think ? ), and steel is made inside a hot furnace not inside Disney World.
I'm not a kamikaze, but if worse come to worse, we Conservatives can play ( and WIN ) the "Wreck The Country" game better than these American Liberal-Socialists-Commies ( And RINOs) can play it. I will not play the old game of "Chicken" if I can get out of it...you know where they get their cars up to about 80 miles per hour and head straight into each other to see who will turn aside first, but if I find myself in a situation where I must play that game then the other driver will turn aside first or we will find out what happens when two cars going 80 miles per hour crash into each other. The moral of that story is this: If it ever does work out where the soft weak girlie-men Socialists - Commie - Liberals get really hungry as in no food the last week while they are living in unheated houses in the dead of winter, etc ...it will be THEY not we Conservatives who "turn aside first."

There is a huge Old Guard of true Bible believing Christian Family Men in America that are making a sincere effort to be good Christian husbands and fathers and to raise their children in the fear of the Lord and teach them to do what is right and they are in the three main Tribes of America: the White European Americans, Black Americans, and Hispanic Americans, and we number in the tens of millions. The Sovereign God will not forsake His people, His Church, in hard times (if hard times does come) and we Christians can endure hard times better than these soft snot-nosed Liberal - Socialists - Commies can endure hard times **BigGrin**.

JackHectorman, republicanoperative.com/forums 86 Comments [10/23/2011 5:05:10 AM]
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Quote# 84454

(Note: This article was salvaged from the Wayback Machine.)

Christmas in Secular America

As we celebrate another Yuletide season, it’s hard not to notice that Christmas in America simply doesn’t feel the same anymore. Although an overwhelming majority of Americans celebrate Christmas, and those who don’t celebrate it overwhelmingly accept and respect our nation’s Christmas traditions, a certain shared public sentiment slowly has disappeared. The Christmas spirit, marked by a wonderful feeling of goodwill among men, is in danger of being lost in the ongoing war against religion.

Through perverse court decisions and years of cultural indoctrination, the elitist, secular Left has managed to convince many in our nation that religion must be driven from public view. The justification is always that someone, somewhere, might possibly be offended or feel uncomfortable living in the midst of a largely Christian society, so all must yield to the fragile sensibilities of the few. The ultimate goal of the anti-religious elites is to transform America into a completely secular nation, a nation that is legally and culturally biased against Christianity.

This growing bias explains why many of our wonderful Christmas traditions have been lost. Christmas pageants and plays, including Handel’s Messiah, have been banned from schools and community halls. Nativity scenes have been ordered removed from town squares, and even criticized as offensive when placed on private church lawns. Office Christmas parties have become taboo, replaced by colorless seasonal parties to ensure no employees feel threatened by a “hostile environment.” Even wholly non-religious decorations featuring Santa Claus, snowmen, and the like have been called into question as Christmas symbols that might cause discomfort. Earlier this month, firemen near Chicago reluctantly removed Christmas decorations from their firehouse after a complaint by some embittered busybody. Most noticeably, however, the once commonplace refrain of “Merry Christmas” has been replaced by the vague, ubiquitous “Happy Holidays.” But what holiday? Is Christmas some kind of secret, a word that cannot be uttered in public? Why have we allowed the secularists to intimidate us into downplaying our most cherished and meaningful Christian celebration?

The notion of a rigid separation between church and state has no basis in either the text of the Constitution or the writings of our Founding Fathers. On the contrary, our Founders’ political views were strongly informed by their religious beliefs. Certainly the drafters of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, both replete with references to God, would be aghast at the federal government’s hostility to religion. The establishment clause of the First Amendment was simply intended to forbid the creation of an official state church like the Church of England, not to drive religion out of public life.

The Founding Fathers envisioned a robustly Christian yet religiously tolerant America, with churches serving as vital institutions that would eclipse the state in importance. Throughout our nation’s history, churches have done what no government can ever do, namely teach morality and civility. Moral and civil individuals are largely governed by their own sense of right and wrong, and hence have little need for external government. This is the real reason the collectivist Left hates religion: Churches as institutions compete with the state for the people’s allegiance, and many devout people put their faith in God before their faith in the state. Knowing this, the secularists wage an ongoing war against religion, chipping away bit by bit at our nation’s Christian heritage. Christmas itself may soon be a casualty of that war.

Ron Paul, Texas Straight Talk 59 Comments [10/23/2011 4:58:33 AM]
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Submitted By: Wykked Wytch

Quote# 84447

Altruism is more animal behavior. When a human "sacrifices" out of love it is not a sacrifice at all, so it is not altruism. True love is selfish and when it is selfish it is also loving. If a man jumps in front of a car for his child yes that is very selfish behavior not altruistic at all. Altruism is when you sacrifice yourself for basically no good at all. Theres no good in just sacrificing yourself.

Brisingamen, CARM 63 Comments [10/23/2011 4:46:33 AM]
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Submitted By: D Laurier

Quote# 84442

Look at reality. Our American Republic has been under durress since the Seneca Falls meeting in 1848. They managed to change the divorce laws for the American Civil War Veterans 1861-64. Before this, if there was a divorce, the man got the house and the children unless something was seriously wrong with him. Divorce rates were only a measley one percent and a spouse still had to prove fault and it wasn’t easy to get a divorce and not everyone could get one. Divorce rates rose to 10% by the end of the First World War, and why shouldn’t they as women usually got the house and kids even under a fault system. Then just in time for the Vietnam War, the divorce laws were changed to no fault and the wife still got the house and kids like it was after the American Civil War unless something was seriously wrong with her. After the Vietnam War, marriage was a man’s fool game tp play and to be honest after the American Civil War it was starting to get a little bad too.

As most of you know, I’m a 43 year old White man and a Christian and a Catholic as well as an U.S. Army Veteran of Iraq and Afghanistan. I’m also a bit of an amatuer historian. The Roman Republic rose for two imporatant reasons although they weren’t the only ones but I believe they were crucial. Enforced monogamy even if the husband but not the wife was allowed in practice if not theory to commit adultry. Pater Potentas, Father’s power, was the other reason. A man had a right to harm or kill his wife, children even unmarried adult female children, adult male children even if theoretically elected to the highest office of the Republic, Consul. He also had the right to harm or kill his grandchildren and great grandchildren. He had the right to harm or kill his descendants wives, slaves, his descendants slaves, his descendants wives slaves or any freed slave by him or them. He had a right to do this without being questioned. Not even the Taliban would allow such a thing as a man needs sufficient reason to do so. When these rights were lost by the Roman Empire among other reasons as well, Rome started to eventually lose. The same process is happening in the USA and we had a much more pleasant patriarchy for the Females even before 1860 than the Roman Republic ever did. As I said above even the Taliban was more pleasant to females than the Roman Republic which our founding fathers based much of our American Republic on. Although it emotionally and in a moral Christian Catholic sense offends even me, in order to halt and reverse our decline we may need to reinstitute some Ancient Roman Republican laws. There’s a reason the Roman Republic crushed all before it, even after suffering fearsome losses in battle and horrific defeats. I see no other logical way. By the way I’m of Polish and Irish descent and not of Italian descent. For as painful as it is for me to admit this, I logically can see no other way to prevent the coming collapse. If someone disagrees with me, please logically prove me wrong as emotionally and morally I would accept and love it. I mean this.

doclove, The Spearhead 59 Comments [10/23/2011 4:42:30 AM]
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Submitted By: Balthazar The Wise

Quote# 84440

There are literally thousands of examples of ancient art showing man lived with dinosaurs. There is art from Babylonia showing what we used to call a Brontosaurus, I forget the modern name. This is very likely the Behemoth described in Job with a tail like a cedar tree that drank up rivers. Job also described the Leviathan, that sounds like some tremendous sea creature. Most scholars believe Job the oldest book in the Bible because of his long lifespan (Job 42:16). It is probable Job lived well over 200 years and lived not long after the flood.

But all over the world there is ancient artwork and literature about huge dragons that once roamed the earth, many killed by man himself. There have been found the footprints of man and dinosaurs found preserved together in several different locations.

Google "Ica Stones" to see photos of thousands of ancient stones found in South America with detailed carvings of dinosaurs, even showing that some were tamed and ridden by man!

So, there is much evidence, even in the Bible that man lived with dinosaurs.

Winman, Baptistboard 41 Comments [10/23/2011 4:40:13 AM]
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Submitted By: PT