Quote# 139682

[On whether or not it should be fully legal for parent do deny their children medical care for faith based reasons ]

For the record faith healing is a little silly even for an old hpippie like me. However....

Unless your willing for the "government" to get involved and regulate guns so the 60+ children who die each year from gun related deaths are saved then no, you can't regulate to save children from what some states have decided is reasonable.

It comes down to how badly you want the freedoms you already have. If you want them you have to take the good with the bad and that includes allowing parents to decide what is best for their children even if they end up dying from it.

salamanderwolf, r/DebateReligion 5 Comments [8/10/2018 9:29:06 AM]
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Quote# 139681

[On whether or not it should be fully legal for parent do deny their children medical care for faith based reasons ]

I don't think people realize how dangerous it is to start saying that the government should regulate religious freedom.

I believe that modern medicine has its place and can be very effective, but why should a parent be forced to involve their children in something they do not agree with? Why should parents not have a right to protect and care for their children in whatever way they see is best?

What if I disagreed with the type of medicine you used on your children? What if thousands or even millions of people disagreed with your idea of healthcare for your children? Does that mean that the government should step in and stop you from creating for your child the way you wish to?

Just because you disagree with a parent's decision, that does not give you the right to intervene.

I agree that life is sacred and that parents cannot be allowed to kill their children, but if they attempt to heal their sick child in their own way, but the child dies regardless of the parent's car, there is no one at fault here. Unless the parent truly has malicious intent of course, and their intent is to be neglectful or to administer poison or something, but this is not usually the case.

And we can't just say that the parents were wrong because their care didn't result in a full recovery, otherwise we could place the same blame on every modern medical procedure that didn't ultimately result in a full recovery.

Doctor's patients die too. Drugs/medicine are often incorrectly prescribed. Surgeries often cause more damage than they solve.

Yes, modern medicine can be beneficial. But there are risks. Why should parents be forced to choose the risks of modern medicine over the risks of their own choice of healthcare

Because faith healing is not health care


And why should they be forced to subscribe to what YOU think is adequate care?

If an adult chooses to not treat their own illness and dies, fine. But the parent is responsible for the child. If their child is bleeding to death and the parents believe that praying is the best "healthcare" and the child dies, the parents should be prosecuted.


So should a doctor be prosecuted when a child dies in their care regardless of the treatment the doctor gave or prescribed?

No, because not believing/trusting medical treatment is no defense and just stupid. If a parent's view is the other way around and believes it is better to pray then seeking medical treatment because they think medicine is bad and just watches his child bleed to death, then that parent is an idiot and should be punished.

And that parent might be thinking the same thing about you while your child is being given the wrong prescription by some doctor that has wrongly diagnosed the problem.My point is that they have just as much of a right to cater for their child as you do for yours.
And besides, your argument only has validity if we assume that prayer and faith healing is completely ineffective, but in reality, that can't be the assumption. And just because you say so doesn't make that assumption true.


pthor14, r/DebateReligion 2 Comments [8/10/2018 9:28:28 AM]
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Quote# 139677

If we going to “unlearn the lies” then lets not start with a lie: People try to discredit the rapture theory by saying that Darby invented it. Whether this is through ignorance or to discredit it, it is simply untrue. You cannot say that “no one and I say no one” talked about the rapture prior to Edwards and Darby.

Look at a few scholars from the 1st century onwards who held the belief in a rapture:

The Pre- Trib Rapture view goes back to very early beginnings of Christianity and the church. Obviously writings of Paul also epistles of Barnabas, also Irenaeus (2nd century), Hippolytus, Justin Martyr (2nd century). Ephraem of Nisibis (the Syrian) (4th century). Others from 1686 Pierre Jurieu, John Asgill, Phillip Doddridge, James McKnight, Morgan Edwards and others.

Remember that the medieval church could not preach a doctrine of wrath been poured out on the very “kings” and rulers that paid their salaries. Hence one of the main reasons for an a-millennial view by the majority of denominational churches.

Rev 3:10 says specifically that the church of Philadelphia (missionary church) will not go through the tribulation. Also that some will go through unless they repent. How will they not go through if they repent?

Do not confuse the coming of Jesus for His saints (and the dead) in the rapture with the events that happen when he comes to judge the world and fight for Israel.


1 Th 4:16 and 1 Cor 15:51

BEFORE AFTER

He Comes for His own He comes with His own
He comes in the air He comes in the earth
Only His own will see Him All will see Him
Great Trib begins Millennium rule begins
Saints Ascend to heaven Saints come to earth
Earth not Judged Earth Judged
Imminent (anytime) Predictable – many prophecies , Psalms Daniels prophecies?

Paul Gallimore, Youtube 6 Comments [8/10/2018 9:24:35 AM]
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Submitted By: Christopher

Quote# 139679

Actual incel definitions vs what society wants incel definitions to be

A surge of new guests and members are exploring incels.me recently, and I would like to take the time to clarify some of the confusion that has been going around, particularly about our definitions and ideology. Here are some words that are twisted by anti-unattractive male activists.

Incel
(society definition)-Hateful, violent, misogynistic male terrorist that is unable to get laid due to females around him being able to perceive his misogyny, creepiness, low confidence and bad personality automatically. They believe they deserve 10/10 females and that all women should be enslaved and have their rights taken away.
Example: You see that 10/10 6'4 male model that has sex 5 times a week? He is an incel since he says stuff that I disagree with online.

Cool Fact: According to their incel definition, it is just an anomaly that females are unable to detect bad personalities in tall/attractive males before entering abusive relationships with them. But lonely males on the internet that would actually make loyal partners are the problem.


Incel
(actual definition)-Any male who is unable to get laid due to his appearance and to a small degree, mental problems (autism, Aspergers, Actual Depression). Due to dating standards, genetics (mostly), and society, many males are unable to get laid due to their appearance. Problems like hair loss, short stature, poor eye shape, and overall facial structure are purely genetic, and have been proven to be the key factors in determining one's reproductive success. Males who are average/above average height with a decent face are not considered true incels since there will be females attracted purely to his appearance. Females cannot be considered incels due to how male biology functions. Due to their higher sex drive and other factors, males have a diverse amount of tastes in different types of women. Traits that would spell a death sentence for males will have hardly any negative effects on females. In a female viewpoint, they can consider themselves incel, but this is usually due to the fact that most men they see are invisible due to their height, face, or baldness; while tall and handsome men are the only men they desire. Since these tall handsome men are in high demand, they can by picky when choosing long term female partners and will discard so called femcels.
Example: You see that short, balding, unattractive male over there? He is an incel no matter what ideology he believes in.

Blackpill
(society definition)-"I will espouse misogyny and hatred towards all women"
Example: Hey, you are blackpilled? Why do you want to enslave all women to be your sex slaves????


Blackpill
(actual definition)-"I can identify the importance of genetically controlled physical features in males, which determines their overall happiness, dating lives, and treatment by society due to overwhelming data and past/current abuse due my appearance. If you are considered below average looking in the society you live in, your life will be considerably harder."
Example: Hey, you are blackpilled? I can see how your negative dating experience due to your short stature has impacted you life, I appreciate your viewpoint on the matter and wish you good luck.



Chad
(society definition)- Any male that is attractive to women due to his confidence, feminism and personality.
Example: I am what you incels consider a "chad". Women only go out with me because they see my meek and submissive personality as a chance to use my money and resources while giving me sex once every two months. Most of my past relationships resulted in my partner leaving me for a more attractive male, but since I am a self identified feminist I will get laid much more than any male model.

Chad
(actual definition)- Any male that is attractive to the majority of women due to his physical appearance. Males with a nice jaw, good eye area, and tall stature typically fall into this category. After years of crucial dating and socializing experience due to their enhanced genetics in their youth, they are usually very confident and outgoing, and will live happy lives. Due to the halo effect, Chads can get away with things usual males cannot in social scenarios. Also, most chads don't even need confidence to get relationships since women will go out of their way to lock them down for a relationship.
Example: I am what you incels consider a "chad". I am 6'4 with a handsome face, I can install tinder and get laid faster than you can possibly imagine. Tinder experiments have shown that I can say literally whatever the fuck I want and still have females be attracted to me.

Ap0calypse, incels.me 9 Comments [8/10/2018 8:35:48 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 139675

We were born in the worst fucking time period

We were born in a time where genetic engineering doesn't exist for humans, but eventually will start to pick up shortly following our deaths. We missed the chance to be 6 ft handsome geniuses by only a few hundred years. Fuck.

I honestly don't care if climate change and pollution kills our planet. The universe will die of heat death eventually anyway, and I doubt future civilizations can harness the energy of collapsed stars.

At least this time period has good copes. Can't wait till I can finish school and LDAR for the rest of my life. 200 years ago they just fucking conquered people for entertainment.

Ap0calypse, incels.me 6 Comments [8/10/2018 5:45:54 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 139674

If you think nature is right in any way or form, please kiss a shotgun barrel and pull the trigger

I hate these fucking idiots and their appeal to nature fallacies that are infesting this place lately.

If you dont absolutely hate nature or think its "richt" in any way, you arent blackpilled.

If you think incels actually deserve the suffering and support eugenics you are worse than vermin in my eyes and should die.
If you are incel yet altruistic and think about "gene pool", "future generations with less incels", "altruist role for the species" you are retarded and should be in special ED class due to iq below fridge temperature.

If ypu dont wish for sentient beings to completely detach from nature or for omnicide if the first is not possible, you are a bluepilled idiot with cuck mebtality that should just jump outta the window of a 90th floor.

You are no better than IT polyamorous cucks.

Zyros, incels.me 7 Comments [8/10/2018 5:45:49 AM]
Fundie Index: 3
Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 139673

We are all SLAVES to beauty - What it's like to be around beauty & why you can't blame women for wanting Chads

I had an interaction with a 9/10 girl today and holy shit. I'm not someone who is prone to social anxiety. I'm very extroverted and gregarious. I deal with people every day and find most interactions mundane.

But there is absolutely NOTHING like physical beauty or that prepares you for it. Having a 9/10 even smile at you or chat with you triggers so many emotions. It's intoxicating, exhilarating, anxiety provoking. It shakes you up. You can't stop thinking about it after. You feel high. The endorphins feel like you just went for a run.

A 2-6/10 girl can't give me this. It's simply not possible. But when a girl for example has clear bright eyes, perfect symmetry and harmony, PCT, a flawless smile, and is fit - holy fuck it's like a completely different experience. I even feel like I could fall in love because that's what love is - a sustained endorphin high triggered by another person - and I'm pretty emotionally jaded at this point.

It's so rare I'd ever come across a girl like that I lost track of how powerful it is.

This is partly why I try to never blame women for wanting Chad instead of me. That's how women feel around Chad. That's why they message 100 times to your Chadfish account even after you stop replying. They want that high. Chads will tell you women "fall in love" with them constantly. I actually can't blame them.

I think we are ALL slaves to beauty. It's value is practically priceless.

For me, it's looksmax or death. And if I have to pay to fuck girls near that tier, so be it. I can't deny that this is what I'm wired to respond to. We were born into this.

RageAgainstTDL, incels.me 5 Comments [8/10/2018 5:45:45 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 139672

You have a wonderful way with words BeRational but that will have to change if you want to claim a place in Jesus Christ's salvation plan. By my understanding, all QM theories are the study of atomic shrapnel. They smash energy particles to smithereens which leave a trace of energy for the split second that they exist. The real force within an atom is contrived by the higgs field. An atomic black-hole, of sorts, that sucks in God's energy in a precise and meaningful way, all happening inside a newly forming star. But you have got to have the whole picture to have any confidence in the minor detail. Listen rather than stamp and shout and you might get the whole picture which is all centred around the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ and which is fully justifiable within the Holy Bible...and which leads us into scientific wonders that can only currently be dreamt about.

NicholasMarks, Religion and Ethics 6 Comments [8/10/2018 5:45:41 AM]
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Submitted By: NearlySane

Arbitrary Scepticism Award

Quote# 139671

And this freedom is not magical, it is miraculous. Because miracles are real - magic is not.

Alan Burns, Religion and Ethics 4 Comments [8/10/2018 5:45:38 AM]
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Submitted By: NearlySane

Quote# 139670


It's all so simple really. All mass is restructured energy. Spin up a huge cloud of the stuff and it all follows the same pattern and the amount of galaxies and stars in the universe tells us just how much of it there is....I call it superabundant but you can take every atom and break down all their component parts add up all the energy you find then add on another 93% and you will still be way out but under rather than over.

There were already many galaxy clouds, millions in fact, even trillions of them, all containiing vast amounts of this energy and just drifting around space, in a static universe. You can itemise how much potential energy was in each cloud by doing a similar exercise as before for the individual galaxy under scrutiny but that is up to you. Now all we needed was God's hadron collider...a natural event, many times larger than its namesake here on planet Earth and with much fiercer results and which will knock all your sciences calculations into touch...It presents a science that really only a wonderful God can handle and Jesus Christ is the most skilled being to handle the multiplicity of it all.

Thank you for the opportunity to express it again...I look forward to your rants but it won't change the science one iota.


NicholasMarks, Religion and Ethics 9 Comments [8/10/2018 4:32:17 AM]
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Submitted By: NearlySane

Quote# 139667

Guest Verified:
Even abortionists don't deny that they are killing a baby when they commit an abortion. Medical science has proven that irrefutably. Abortionists now merely argue that it's all right to kill a child if it is young enough.

Fandango:
“Even abortionists don’t deny that they are killing a baby when they commit an abortion.”
Strictly speaking that is untrue. They would definitely not use that terminology. They would say they were terminating a pregnancy or a fetus.

Guest Verified:
You must have missed the Planned Parenthood tapes, or the abortionist who said, "Of course it's a baby!" when talking about what he/she was aborting.

Fandango:
I probably missed a few, but they'd be the exceptions. Generally speaking they wouldn't refer to them as having personhood because lack of personhood is the cornerstone of their argument. They certainly don't see it as murder, which is technically correct because murder applies only to living people outside of the womb.

Guest Verified:
No it doesn't. Murder applies to living people, and babies in utero are living.

Fandango:
Well, no, otherwise people would go to jail for murder when an abortion took place.

Guest Verified:
Except they don't. Modern science proves that's a living being inside the womb. Abortionists know it. However, sin is prevailing so much that abortionists/murderers get away with murder all the time. Rarely is justice served anymore.

Fandango:
It isn’t really a science issue. Science doesn’t argue about the fact that it’s the termination of a living thing, they would tell you that the fetus has the potential to become a baby but isn’t one yet. And before that it is a zygote. Everyone’s in agreement on the science, just not the terminology.

Guest Verified:
Science proves it's a living baby. Abortionists know they are killing babies.

Guest Verified, Christian News Network 8 Comments [8/10/2018 4:31:15 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 139666

A 10-month old girl died of malnutrition and dehydration after her Christian parents allegedly refused to seek medical help for religious reasons, fear of child services and a lack of trust in medical services.

Seth Welch and Tatiana Fusari, both 27, have been charged with felony murder and first-degree child abuse in the death of their daughter, Mary.

Welch called the emergency services last week and the child was not breathing when deputies arrived at their home in Michigan's Solon Township, which sits to the north of Grand Rapids, the Kent County sheriff’s office said.

The child was found with sunken eyes and cheeks and a lack of pulse, and she was pronounced dead at the scene. An autopsy ruled the cause of death was malnutrition and dehydration due to neglect by adult caregivers.

The couple admitted their daughter had been skinny and underweight for at least a month, an affidavit alleged.

They did not seek medical help for religious reasons, fear of having Child Protective Services called and a lack of trust in medical services,” according to court records.

Footage taken in Kent County Court shows their shocked reaction as the judge tells them they could face life in prison without parole, if convicted of felony murder.

Welch’s jaw fell open and Fusari sobs as the judge reads out the charges.

The pair, have two older children together, aged two and four, are being held without bond and court records do not list lawyers who can speak on their behalf.

Child Protective Services have filed a neglect case against the parents involving their two eldest children.

Welch has posted about Child Protective Services, a distrust of doctors and religious beliefs on Facebook. He called doctors “priesthoods of the medical cult” and spoke in one video post about refusing to get his children vaccinated.

“The righteous shall live by faith. It’s God who is sovereign over disease and those sorts of things and, of course, ultimately deaths,” he said.

The couple return to court on 20 August and could face life in prison without parole if convicted of felony murder.

Seth Welch and Tatiana Fusari, The Independent 6 Comments [8/10/2018 4:30:30 AM]
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Submitted By: Citizen Justin

Quote# 139641

While I do feel it's wrong to have arranged marriages, especially with a 14 year old girl, it is part of their culture, been around for thousands of years and who are we to judge one culture, to make comparisons?

Naturally, almost all species (Including our own) have a system where as soon as the females are able to breed, they're turned into a broodmare. I don't agree with it, and I wouldn't pretend it's acceptable because we used to do it, but it is their culture, it's their way of life and it isn't our place to condemn their practices, although we can disagree with it.

Hyve, MMO Champion 10 Comments [8/9/2018 11:33:01 AM]
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Quote# 139658

The First morality test of Slavery – How did the slave come to be owned by their master?

Did they voluntarily give themselves as a slave in exchange for protection and economic security?

Were they born from slave parents?

Were they sold as a slave by their father?

Did they voluntarily sell themselves to pay off debtors?

Were they forced into servitude by governing authorities either because of debts they owed or because of a crime they committed?

Were they captured as a prisoner of a just war?

Were they kidnapped and forced to be a slave?

Biblically speaking, if a person were to answer yes to any of the first six questions, then the way that they became a slave was not wrong. If however the person was kidnapped and forced into slavery, then this type of slavery would be immoral and wrong.

The Second morality test of Slavery – How is the slave being treated by their master?

Are food, clothing and shelter being provided to the slave?

Is the slave being treated justly and fairly?

Is the slave being given proper rest?

Is the slave not being physically abused?

If the answer to all these questions is yes regarding the treatment of slaves in a particular situation then this instance of slavery would be moral – Biblically speaking.

biblicalgenderroles, Biblical Gender Roles 16 Comments [8/9/2018 10:46:42 AM]
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Quote# 139656

Most people have no idea just how ethical God is, and how much He does care, and the extent to which He thinks about other's well-being. I love listening to the Bible on DVD. When I bought the Bible on DVD, read aloud by Alexander Scourby, I began to hear and learn things that I had never noticed by reading the King James Bible. There's just something special about HEARING the Bible being read aloud. Does not Romans 10:17 say that faith cometh by HEARING!!! Yes, indeed it does! If you don't already have the King James Bible on DVD, please get it and listen to the Bible being read regularly. You will be blessed so much as I have.

A Christian woman who cares about morality will wear modest clothing. Women who dress like prostitutes in mini-skirts, halter-tops, open-blouses and tight clothing... don't care about causing lust, ruining families, displeasing God, nor being judged in eternity for their wickedness. They don't have any faith in God. They don't fear God, just as Romans 3:18 says most people don't. They don't care because they don't believe. If we have faith that there's a real God in Heaven, Who is keeping track of every decision that we make, and we'll have to give account one day for those decisions, then we're going to care about the things which we say and do (Romans 14:10-12).

It is so important that you care because everything else depends on it... how you treat yourself, your family, your neighbors, et cetera. A woman dresses modestly because she CARES. A mother doesn't abort her baby because she CARES. No caring woman kills her own flesh and blood. CARING is everything in life. A small handful of Washington D.C. politicians actually do the honest thing because they CARES (Dr. Ron Paul is one of them). Ron Paul CARES!

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 11 Comments [8/9/2018 10:46:15 AM]
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Quote# 139646

We have to set up a new tradition and a new vision for East Asia and the world.

A Unified Korea has to work with the US right-wing, Russia, Mongolia and perhaps the uncucked elements of Japan to throw off the yoke of imperialist Chinese, Babylonian cabalist/Z-ists, freemasonry. To defeat Islam and liberalism. And reset the financial system. Ultimately to liberate humanity.

You clearly know who the enemies are and what is the positive vs negative side.

None of this shit more than 3000 years ago matters RIGHT NOW. It’s clearly in genetics as of this moment and genetics don’t lie. We have to focus on the future of our genetic progeny so we don’t face death and destruction right now

Yemaek, Korean Sentry 6 Comments [8/9/2018 7:57:30 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 139644

[ on a 14 year old child being forced to marry an 35 year old adult]

To put things in perspective - arranged marriages are worldwide the standard compared to the "free marriage" we nowadays have in western countries.
At least the Chinese, Japanese, Indians, whole Africa have arranged marriages. That's more than half of the world population already.

Even in Finland you don't need to look far back in time when arranged marriages were the standard. That was the thing not longer than about 100 years ago. Marriages were arranged, we still have a remnant of that tradition where the bride's father pays for the costs of weddings.

And when we look at the age of the brides - in Finland (evangelic lutheran church) kids get Confirmation (I hope you know the meaning) at the age of 14 to 15. When you are "Confirmed" you are legally ready for being wedded. 100 years ago it was a standard that marriages were arranged and men married 14-16 year old girls.

That's completely normal.

PS. I vouch for arranged marriages, those marriages statistically work a lot better than these modern "free marriages". A lot less divorcing and happier couples. Your family has a lot better judgment in choosing a partner for you than what you have in 3 promille drunk state at some random bar at 4am in Saturday night. That's where most of relationships start, and it's not a good start for a relationship.

Puupi, MMO Champion 6 Comments [8/9/2018 7:55:54 AM]
Fundie Index: 5

Quote# 139643

Being forced to take the trash out or being forced to do your homework are a little different to being forced to marry (potentially for life) a man you do not wish to marry, to have sex with him as and when he desires (as is the case in their culture), bear his children without a say in the matter, and risk your life in doing so.

You have to see there is a bit of a difference in those things. Even the most serious things you are forced to do in the west (like... you are forced (pretty much) to go to a particular school by your parents) are really nothing compared to that. Also, in the west you have a lot more legal protection for the extreme things you don't want to do. You have places you can call (child abuse places like Childline) if the things you are being forced to do are too extreme.


I was forced to go to the military (like every man in my country), I was forced to serve my country with my life (literally).

I don't think those are small things. I would do them without being forced, too. But that doesn't change they are being forced upon me.

I really have hard time understanding the demonizing of sex. Everyone WANTS to have sex in their life, it's the best thing in the world.

Now when sex is forced it becomes the WORST AND MOST ATROCIOUS THING IN THE WORLD.

How the fuck does that kind of switch happen.

Not all sexual experiences for all involved parties are pleasurable.
Would you look forward to sex if you were unlikely to orgasm because your partner wasn't interested in your pleasure, or even your comfort? If it was a painful experience for you because you aren't aroused by your partner, would you look forward to doing that again?

Obviously I would not enjoy it and wouldn't look forward to doing that again. But people do other discomforting things, too, because it's part of life and needs to be done. Like work.





Puupi, MMO Champion 8 Comments [8/9/2018 7:55:05 AM]
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Quote# 139642

Perhaps a 14 year old girl who for whatever silly reasons feels as if she was raped, and is facing a lifetime of more rape, and is probably going to be expected to bear the children of whom she feels is her rapist, which could very possibly kill her? Do you not acknowledge any remote possibility that this girl felt she had been raped? Growing up in a culture that condones rape doesn't make the rape victim feel any less raped, it just allows the rapist to escape culpability.


Refusing to put out for your Husband is not rape in their country so you cannot call it rape. Marital rape has only been a crime in the West for what only 30-40 years? Again with the double standards and the righteousness...

Shinra1, MMO Champion 3 Comments [8/9/2018 7:54:01 AM]
Fundie Index: 5

Quote# 139640


This Nigerian girl of 14, after being forced to marry a 35 year old man, cooks a celebratory dinner for him and some buddies. Laces the whole thing with rat poison, and kills a few of his buddies while others present are just taken to the hospital and released.


If you don't like arranged marriages, stop them all. Write to your leaders to go over and put an end & nullify all arranged marriages.

No? But you want to spew on about "freedom of choice".. Yet you don't seem to realize, this isn't the act of 1 crazy man and a bunch of his friends out on the town looking for some 14 yearold girl to rape.
This is a CULTURE who has been practicing arranged marriages, longer than the USA has been a country.

Who are ANY of you to say that it isn't "the right way" to do things? Let me guess, because you believe you're doing it the "right way"? Guess what! People from that culture don't believe YOU are doing it right.. What now?

I bet you think we should just leave people alone now, huh? Yeah.. me too.

Violent, MMO Champion 4 Comments [8/9/2018 7:52:42 AM]
Fundie Index: 6

Quote# 139620

A vote for Democrats in 2018 means:

1. You care more about illegal immigrants as opposed to law-abiding citizens.

2. You believe criminals should have more Rights than victims.

3. You condone the sexualization of children.

#Ghost

Ghost, Gab 20 Comments [8/9/2018 7:50:13 AM]
Fundie Index: 7

Quote# 139617

And even if you were to consider lolicons pedos, if a pedo came out to anyone, they'd get the police called on them. Therapists are required to aren't they? Even if said pedo isn't hurting anyone and has no intention to. Which I think is pretty harsh imo. Furthermore, taking away pedo's outlets is dangerous, because if anything they is going to be illegal, what is stopping them from doing actual harm, other than them wanting to protect children. It might not be a perfect defense against child abuse, and those who rape kids are going to anyway, but at least it gives the ones who do not want to harm kids something safe to rub their rod.

But I really don't think it's fair to everyone who enjoys lolicon a pedo, just as it's not fair to call someone into bdsm or rape porn a rapist, nor do they really wish to be raped. And rape porn is a popular genre. It's a fantasy, an escape. And I think escapism is fine just so long as you don't take the fantasy into real life. The loli porn is not the problem, it's the people who can't tell the difference between reality and fiction.

Either way, I don't think people should care what I wank to if it harms nobody. Also sorry if I seem like a cunt at any point, I am not trying to. I've noticed that I am probably being too bitter in the past comments. Just very passionate about the topic I guess.


Alright bro. I'm going to level here. If anyone is trying really hard here to keep porn where children lookalikes are in, then I think that person is a massive pedo. Murdering another human being is completely different to allowing lolis in porn. And don't get on a high horse about defending fiction and how it shouldn't be messed with. You look like a pedo, defending this. Take a step back, and just reevaluate yourself.

Yea this is an edit just went through your profile a little. I understand why you are defending this so hard. Cause you are a pedo.

Double edit: "17 is more than old enough tho" yea your a pedo





So it's okay to murder another human being but not okay to allow lolis in porn? Do people look gay for defending gays? Do people look like murderers for defending murder in games?

I really don't see how violent video games and lolis are so different that they cannot be compared. Both are fiction and both depict something illegal and wrong, I think that's fair ground for comparison.

The only reason I look like a pedo to you is because you're not willing to accept that fiction isn't reality and enjoying something in fiction doesn't mean you enjoy in real life.


Mizu-neko, reddit 1 Comments [8/9/2018 7:50:02 AM]
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Quote# 139616

It's hypocritical to say that lolicon is wrong because it's immoral or gross, calling it pedophilia, even to say you don't care that they're not underage, and then go on to play some video game where you brutally murder innocent people and children.

Imagine a woman being 30 and looks like a child so she often gets mistaken for one. What is she to do? If she fucks someone, that person she fucks will be deemed a pedo and jailed? Do we care about age then, or just looks? After all, if she looks underage, then she is underage.

Why do so many people care so much about fictional children but never seem to talk about real children being raped? They're just pixels on a screen. If you wanna bitch about pedophilia, go and hunt the real pedos.

The one thing I have to say about most lolicons I've seen, it's that they seem to be a bunch of pussies. To afraid to stand up for themselves. They'd rather others fight for them, but who's going to do that when most non lolicons detest lolicons? You don't get in anything in life by staying idle and nothing easy to obtain is worth having.

Reddit should ban the furry and gaming communities, because that's just immoral and wrong. At least play it fair.

Mizu-neko, reddit 4 Comments [8/9/2018 7:46:56 AM]
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Quote# 139637

Why (((they))) are actually our greatest allies

(((They))), the elite, or whatever you want to call them, is not our enemy, and they are in fact our greatest allies. Here's why:

The (((process))) is simple, and it works like this:

1. (((They))) will infect modern culture with polygamy, rebellion, and drug-use. The so-called degeneracy.

2. Society crumbles and collapses under it's own weight, the weight being "degeneracy".

3. The collapse of society will also cause the collapsation of institutional incel-discrimination, privilege of Stacy and Chad, and the destruction of the unjust systems.


Now, this process is oversimplification, but the message is accurate.

But too many incels fail to see the last two, especially the last one, and only see "(((they))) cause polygamy", and think to themselves "well, if polygamy is bad, and (((they))) cause polygamy, then (((they))) are bad as well". And that does make sense when you first think about it. But on second thought, what (((they))) are doing is actually good for incels, and bad for Chad. Not now, not tomorrow, but eventually. And think about it. Most Jews are ugly, balding, short, and they are often meme'd into oblivion. It would make sense for the balding manlet race to hate the Chad Aryan. This is the true incel rebellion.

TL;DR (((they))) cause the so-called degeneracy, and will destroy society, thus benefitting incels

fellofix, incels.me 8 Comments [8/9/2018 6:26:37 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 139634

The reactionary program is fallen governance for a fallen world: Immanentizing the Eschaton is the progressive program, it is the opposite of the reactionary program. Whosoever claims that the truest and most pure reaction will Immanentize the Eschaton is a progressive entryist, like those telling Muslims that Islam is the religion of peace, therefore the truest Islam is something that is suspiciously progressive sounding, like those telling Christians that single mothers are heroes, and that they should adopt blacks from Saharan Africa.

“hello fellow white male hetero sexual reactionaries. My reaction is purer than your reaction. And yet at the same time we need to be acceptable to moderates in order to obtain the broadest possible outreach.”


Reaction deals with fallen men as they actually are – hence we want our ruling bandit to be a stationary bandit evil overlord, and view the primary problem with government as mobile banditry – that anonymous bureaucrats have, as Taleb says, no stake in the game. We are worried about the evil overlord’s incentives, and not much worried about whether he represents the people, and not much worried whether he is nice and virtuous. We want a good man for Archbishop, but someone mighty like Trump for President, President for Life, King, God King, and Holy American Emperor.

If Trump successfully does a Stalin or a Cromwell, freezes leftism at the current year, that will be great, for the full implementation of the reactionary program is likely to be through all out war, where cities get burned, likely by nuclear fire, women and children get massacred, and the winning side is the side most willing to do the most terrible things.

If he does a Sulla, and rolls leftism back to 1933 that will be even better.

If he rolls leftism back to the leftism of the founders, better still. Best of all if he gets crowned God Emperor of the New Holy American empire, does a Charles the Hammer and a Charles the Second and rolls things back to 1660, in which case we are likely to get one hundred and sixty years of reaction.

The worst case outcome however, and a very likely outcome, is long, bloody, and terrible civil war with our enemies masters of the state. Trump gets impeached, not long after that imprisoned, and not long after that he and his entire family is murdered like the Romanovs as civil war and white genocide begins. In which case we will have to whip up our own state in one hell of a hurry.

Everyone who practices with a gun on the gun range is on our side.
Most men who lift iron are on our side.
Most men who practice the seriously dangerous martial arts on our side.
The great majority of young white males are our side.
Deus Vult. God is on our side.

But as well as that, if our enemies have a state, we will need a state.

Whites are in line for hot genocide. Whites also have more capability for war than any other race. No other race, no other people, have ever shown anything close to the capacity for organized mass violence. Which means that to re-awaken our capability, we need organization and mass.

To re-awaken the sleeping warrior, reward him for victory personally and individually with land, women and power, as well as with land and power for his platoon, his company, and his regiment. He will be back.

Set the status of women back to what it was in eighteenth century England, or better, back to what it was in the Carolingian empire. He will be back.

If the state remains in the hands of people who wish to destroy us, we will have to build our own state, and the quickest way to whip up a state from nothing much is feudalism and freehold – the full reactionary program. Every company and every regiment needs to be largely responsible for its own logistics, and will need its own pool of camp followers, thus will need its own domain of state power.

It would be better if part of the existing state comes over to us, with its existing institutions, in which case we will get something considerably less than the full reactionary program, very likely will get a Cromwellian program. We are not in this to build utopia. Reaction is impure in its essence, being committed to doing the best we can in a regrettably fallen world. The Cromwellian program would be great. Whosoever signals reactionary purity, signals leftism. We are, however, in this to win. If we cannot win with the existing state, or a breakaway part of it, will have to win without, and the full reactionary program is fully optimized for power, war, and the regrettable necessity of dreadful deeds.

Jim, Jim's Blog 7 Comments [8/9/2018 6:20:19 AM]
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