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Quote# 139038

Benson: Have fun going down in the wrong side of history and have the people
of tomorrow mocking you, just as we do now with the people who opposed interracial marriage. Also, could you people stop pretending that private "pretend" ceremonies equal equality? There have been several absolutely
heartbreaking stories of same-sex couples in which a partner was forbidden from standing at their beloved's deathbed because they were
not married -- the tip of the iceberg. Willfully short-sighted creatures, you folk.

Mo: "Have fun going down in the wrong side of history and have the people of tomorrow mocking you, just as we do now with the people who opposed interracial marriage." Can you tell me what equality there is between skin color/race and deviant sexual acts? How dare you compare my race or anyone else to deviant sexual behaviors.

Mo, Patheos 12 Comments [7/21/2018 12:30:26 PM]
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Submitted By: Christopher

Quote# 139036

I’ve been talking with my husband about this, asking what would it look like to see our society get back to normal. Would it have to be a grassroots effort? Would it involve a spiritual revival?

We saw a speaker at our church last week, who was herself once a self-proclaimed lesbian. She has since renounced that lifestyle after she accepted Christ and no longer identifies as anything but a Christian. She made an interesting statement. She said the LGBT community is so focused on acceptance because they are well aware that they stand on shaky ground. Most of its gains resulted from top-down (legislative) wins and that is the worst way to bring about lasting social change.

Again, I’m just trying to envision how this will ever turn around. The only example I can think of is the repeal of prohibition.

keats5, Free Republic 12 Comments [7/21/2018 12:28:17 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 139033

Blackpill

Your story is there waiting for you, it has been waiting for you there a hundred years,
long before you were born and you cannot change a comma of it. Everything you do
you have to do. You are the twig, and the water you float on swept you here. You are
the leaf, and the breeze you were borne on blew you here. This is your story and you
cannot escape it



-Cornell woolrich, I Married a Dead Man

Blackpill

The Blackpill is an idea, centered in evolutionary psychology, which attempts to explain romantic partnership as stemming from 3 interrelated factors

1. Physical attractiveness

2. Wealth

3. Social Status

Five central themes emerge from this thesis.


1. Looks are necessary to the formation of physical or romantic desire
2. Looks are not distributed evenly among men
3. Looks are not subjective.
4. The Dualistic Mating Strategy
5. Hypergamy


Each one of the five central themes plays a part in deriving Incel Vocabulary. Looks being necessary,unevenly distributed, and objective provides two familiar categories, the Incel and Chad

Incel Wiki, Incel Wiki 6 Comments [7/21/2018 10:52:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 139031

I don't particularly care if Gays want to be in a pretend marriage. Lots of sinners out there. But what I don't like is having it thrown in people's faces non stop. No one goes around saying "look at me, look at me, I'm hetero."

If Fox is heading towards the Gender Identity politics route, time to start looking for investors for a new network. We could make it a streaming service so we wouldn't have to worry about getting through the left's stranglehold on the cable and media.

StolarStorm, Free Republic 9 Comments [7/21/2018 10:51:52 AM]
Fundie Index: 3
Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 139029

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INCEL

An, "incel", is someone who has been totally shit on by the world to the point where they are 'involuntarily celibate' for six months or more. Incels are known for being poor, being victims of abuse, living with their parents, having medical disabilities, and spending way too much time on the internet. Many, but not all incels forums, subscribe to the philosophy of the, "blackpill".

Many people make fun of incels for having a victim complex. However it is completely justified for incels to have a victim complex given they are usually ugly or bullied/ostracized to the point of having bad social skills. The same people who tell male incels that they are entitled and whiney, are usually the same people who feel entitled to non-sexual emotional labor of others through government and the same people who tell men they need to express their feelings more. Apparently men are supposed to express their feelings but their feelings are 'invalid' and therefore 'should not be expressed'.


Incels are the vanguard of tearing down gender roles

Advice from Normies

Since normies don't like to pair up people anymore, they tell incels it's near 100% incels own fault that they can't find a partner. So they offer self-help "advice". Incels are told by normies that looks don't matter, but normies always are curious about how ugly incels are and assume they don't take enough showers or get enough haircuts. They tell incels to be themselves, but to pick up hobbies they don't like. They tell incels that pick up artists are full of shit but that incels don't have enough 'game' to date rape drunk women at bars 'pick up women'. They tell incels that they are too nice but also that they are assholes. They tell incels that sexual intimacy is not that important, but they themselves buy and/or create movies and songs about how sexual intimacy is one of the most important things in the world and they get upset if they have a few week long dry spell.

They tell incels that sexual intimacy isn't a commodity in a game with a reward, but think of male virgins as "losers" and tell incels that they don't "deserve" intimacy due to their actions.

For an incel, asking advice about dating from a normie is like phoning up a lazy customer service operator for a corrupt company. The operator will say whatever they can to get the customer off the line as soon as soon as possible without care for consistency or accuracy, or witnessing meaningful results born from their 'advice'.

Normies, especially feminist normies will often insist that incels are the correct batch of people not to be partnered up. After all it would make women and society seem a lot more just if that were the case. They will insist that sexual freedom is a sorting mechanism for male feminists and good personalities like OJ Simpson and Jeremy Meeks, and that your local grocery store bagger deserves to be an incel because maybe he went on 4chan once or twice.


Normies, when not lying to incels about celibacy being easy, in reality consider going even 40 days without sexual intimacy as complete savagery

Incel Wiki, Incel Wiki 6 Comments [7/21/2018 10:51:40 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 139028

I dislike homosexuals for going against nature’s ways. Homosexuals would die off without spreading their genes because they wouldn’t mate. Now, we let homosexuals run around in drag on our streets. I don’t personally hate homosexuals, but they’re abominations, like me.

InebriatedIrish, incels.me 10 Comments [7/21/2018 10:51:22 AM]
Fundie Index: 4
Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 139023

I hate liberals

I seriously hate all these neo-bullshit concepts and ideas. Women’s rights, destroying the family unit, cuckold fetish, dismantling religion to create the modern sodom and gomorrah we see.

There are two types of liberal males: those who think they can’t get laid because of religious fanaticism and those who think women will slee with them. Sorry to burst your bubble, soyboy but you are ugly asf for girls to even think about giving you a handjob and girls love criminals. Just ask the local drug dealer.

Seriously if all liberals can just die in a ditch we will live in a better world. Now my dream of having a virgin wife is not going to happen. Up your asses, libtards.

fOreVER, incels.me 11 Comments [7/21/2018 10:50:15 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 139020

Why haven't u Islamaaxxed yet

it is probably the only way for most of us why don't u convert and buy yourself a Muslim wife from their fathers they keep their mouth shut and don't need to get a job. Its the true way brothers may you seriously consider it inshallah we shall all me in jannah.

SadRealistcel, incels.me 4 Comments [7/21/2018 10:50:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 139012

IT'S OVER (if you don't max your stats out)

After a few months of daily LDARing and meditating on what it means to live while LDARing and where my life is going, I realized that if you and maxxing what are you doing. If I live in LDAR mode I might as well kill myself.

But fuck it don't we all want to live a happy life and ascend? For us genetically subpar males our path has already been decided and it's filled with pain and tears, suffering and hard work. But it must be done. If you dont looksmax you are indisputably volcel. I know that we are able to come up with many excuses to AVOID (because that is the goal of the excuse) having to work hard, but excuses are just excuses not realities.

I have disproved all of my excuses and I can do the same for yours. If if you reflect and at the end of that reflection you don't want to do and be your best then you are VOLCEL and FAKECEL.

diogenes, incels.me 11 Comments [7/21/2018 4:01:50 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Eviler Than Thou Award

Quote# 139011

Why is there so many moralfags on this forum?

I don't know how you can even keep your morals at this point? I mean you got the shittiest life imaginable, shittiest genetics, shittiest everything and you still don't want to throw away your morals? People who are moralfags on this forum are all fakecels. If you are against rape, going ER, you shouldn't be here, you should be on some SJW or liberal forum. If you wouldn't kill a fucking kitty, a fuckin KITTY or a DOG to become a Chad you should be banned. The only kind of morals you should have is regarding your family, but I don't even have them anymore. If you want to actually ascend as an incel, you gotta be ready to do whatever it takes to ascend, once you throw away all your morals you can become truly free, and you have better chances of ascending. Remember, morals are man-made, there are no objective morals, morals are made by people to keep masses in check.

Unwanted, incels.me 11 Comments [7/21/2018 4:01:46 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 139010

Would you kill a puppy or kitten to be Chad?

Answer honestly. Lets say you were offered to be Chad but to become Chad you would have to kill a kitten or puppy with your own bare hands. It would be a very cute one looking at you with big, sad eyes. If you deny then you can keep the puppy or kitten and it will love you forever.

[At the time of submission:
Yes, fuck the kitten/puppy. I want to be Chad: 64 votes (59.3%)
No that would be fucked up.:39 votes (36.1%)
I am not sure. 5 votes (4.6% )]


virgin4life, incels.me 5 Comments [7/21/2018 4:01:41 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 139005

I leave comments on blogs hardly ever, but I did leave a quick comment making the point that it is quite a commentary on today’s culture when a flamboyant sodomite – as Noel Coward was – displays the kind of virile moral leadership in calling out the descent of western culture that we can only FANTASIZE about today. Put another way, things said by queeny, British fags of 60+ years ago are now so far to the “right” socially that they would be characterized by the howling moonbat SJW’s as “fascist” or “Nazi” or whatever the non-sensical pejorative du jour is.

This, in turn, spurred a conversation about homosexuals in art and how decent, moral people should relate to such. The key question is this: Is it morally licit to consume art (music, painting, dance) that we know, after the fact, was made by sodomites? My thesis is this:

Consuming art created by sodomites is permissible so long as the art in question does not have a “sodomite aesthetic”, and does not point to nor glorify sexual perversion.

The Russian classical composer Tchaikovsky was a sodomite. Is it okay to listen to his music? Here is the Pas de Deux from the Nutcracker Ballet – one of my favorite pieces of Classical music. Does this have a sodomite aesthetic or glorify sexual perversion? I would say no.

In the spirit of self-correction, the critique of Noel Coward that has to be made is that his entire persona, like that of Liberace or Elton John, was, as the Brits say, “camp”, that is, queeny. Noel Coward inspired the chorus boys in the West End (London’s theater district, like Broadway in New York), to openly manifest as fags, which carried on through the years into the growing cancer of “poofterism” in British culture. THAT is a problem.

Ann Barnhardt , Barnhardt.biz 8 Comments [7/21/2018 4:00:08 AM]
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Quote# 139004

What I would submit is the great crime against God committed by His People over the past 50 years is our SILENCE – our passive, impotent, effeminate acceptance of the profound violence done against Him, His Church, and His Liturgy. We, our parents, our grandparents, our great-grandparents, sat in silence and watched as sodomites turned the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass into a neo-pagan low-rent cruise ship floorshow. Our response was either the silence of apostasy, as more than 90% of Catholics in the West simply stopped going to Mass, or the silence of tacitly accepting the obvious abuse and overt hostility toward Our Lord and His Church by diabolically narcissistic sex perverts and their truly pathetic, co-dependent hangers-on. The collapse of our culture, the abortion, the ascendancy of sexual perversion, the collapse of the Rule of Law – all of these things are DERIVATIVE of the destruction of the Liturgy, a destruction that we sat, wallowing in our collective effeminacy, and watched – and continue to watch and even cooperate in. How many people today, well aware of the perennial traditions and disciplines of Holy Mother Church prior to ARSH 1965, still go to Novus Ordo Masses having observed only a one hour fast, women with heads uncovered, and receive the Most Holy Eucharist standing, in the hand because they “don’t want to stand out” or “make a scene”? Lots. Lots and lots and lots.

So my question, in rebuttal to the commentariat’s responses to my “Vocem Alienorum” piece is this: If we all agree that it has been precisely our inaction over the past 50 years that has brought down this scourge upon us, how can it possibly, possibly make sense that the proper response to the Bergoglian Antipapacy is MORE SILENCE? MORE RETREAT? MORE SHOULDER-SHRUGGING? MORE FATALISM? MORE EFFEMINACY? MORE SLOTH? MORE INDIFFERENCE?

And that brings us, somewhat paradoxically, to Our Lord’s incomprehensible Love for us, and His Mercy.

The reason Our Lord is letting the Bergoglian Antipapacy happen, is because He is giving us ONE. LAST. CHANCE to cease the very crime we have committed against Him for lo these 50 years, one last chance to come to His defense. One last chance to shake off our effeminacy and instead rise up in virility and fight for Him.

Ann Barnhardt , Barnhardt.biz 11 Comments [7/21/2018 4:00:03 AM]
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Quote# 138996

I am so sick and tired of these neo-evangelical, dead, lukewarm, lifeless, fuddy-duddy churches today, like the Harvest Baptist Church on Guam! Did I mention that they forced me out and banned me from returning! Yes, it is true! Do you know why? It is because I AM RIGHT AND THEY ARE WRONG ON THE HOLY BIBLE. They are all shameful Bob Jones graduates! The truth hurts, don't it! I mean, I couldn't put it any simpler. This is what happens when light meets darkness, when a real Hyles-Anderson College graduate (back when HAC graduates still believed what Dr. Hyles actually taught) meets the neo-evangelical Bob Jones University camp!!! I wouldn't give you a dime for that mess at Bob Jones, nor their sorry graduates. What a shame to the cause of Christ. The gloves are off!

THE TRUTH MATTERS! THE TRUTH MATTERS! THE TRUTH MATTERS! THE TRUTH MATTERS! THE TRUTH MATTERS!

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 20 Comments [7/19/2018 11:04:09 AM]
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Quote# 138995

My formerly raised vegetarian/vegan brother was convinced by his otherwise brilliant, kind, compassionate (young, yet old school, from a machismo culture) doctor - with my brother having absolutely no physical, mental, psychological issues - that there's no reason for him to stay away from eating animal products, that they're good for him, that they're healthy. There was no reason given for why my brother, specifically, should have it, only the doctor didn't know a reason to stay away. My brother, who used to be a compassionate, logical, learning, thinking, researching young man, went on and off about vegetarianism/veganism. He and his girlfriend, both doctors - she's a pediatrician, older than he is, tells him what's what, feeds her children organic whole milk, demands my parents have it for her, thinking it's healthy, she feeds the children regular chicken, regular meat, lots of fruits and vegetables, too, sure, she knows that much, she accepts cakes plus all desserts from all grandparents she thinks she's doing favors to or accepts money and gifts from - this simple girl doctor who cut her work to three days a week, who didn't even want her first child to have a cupcake or bite of cake for birthday number one because it's not healthy, yet she's financially supported by several generations of family on all sides...I don't get it... she makes sure the mother in law buys it all for her, she's constantly given anything she wants or doesn't want but accepts, feeds to the children, to my family, as my big brother, formerly healthy in mind, body, soul, is a new medical resident, has had fewer hours of nutrition in medical school than I've studied in high school honors with projects, extra credit etc. I'm worried about my brother - the animal eating, the being manipulated, the quick shift, the weight gain, the lack of sleep from 24-36 hour shifts, the stress, the heart palpitations from stress since the girlfriend, job, children...the no time to think, rethink, take time...it's so frightening...he's become worse since getting with a pediatrician, going to medical school. These are the really smart ones, too. The ones who went into this not for money or a title, the ones who care. What can be done? It's terrifying. They're going to influence a generation or more. Also, I'd like my true brother back.?

Emuna Bee, Youtube 9 Comments [7/19/2018 11:04:04 AM]
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Submitted By: hydrolythe

Quote# 138994

The trannies know they can get away with this now because they have the tyrannical force of the law on their side. If you laugh at them, if you demur at their claims to be what they say they are, they can get you hounded from your job or prosecuted for “transphobia”. Trannies are the new Jews. They destroy your life if you point out the absurdity of their claims.

czakal, Wordpress 5 Comments [7/19/2018 11:03:57 AM]
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Submitted By: hydrolythe

Quote# 138993

swibily:
Catholics are Christians who follow the Bible. I don't understand your complaint.

Guest Verified:
Untrue.

swibily:
It's very true. Consult your dictionary. Or a history book.

Guest Verified:
I already have. I now recognize you as a former poster under a new nic. You keep going on about the catholic organization yet you deny actual history, and actual dictionary definitions.

swibily:
I am not a former poster, just someone who understands that Catholics are Christians and considering the entire world already knows this and you don't, maybe you simply enjoy your fringey opinion a little too much. If you are the type of Christian who argues with the dictionary and settled sources, then you identify yourself as someone who is too unreasonable to converse with.

Guest Verified:
The oldest Christian church is not catholic. The early Church was Jewish. The oldest archaeologically established church building is Eastern Orthodox. catholic commentary refers to the added extras the catholic establishment puts in and takes out to control the masses. It's not the true Word of God.

swibily:
The Catholic church is AMONG the oldest churches. It's certainly far older, more established and more relevant than the church you belong to which ultimately branched from it. So if you're saying it's not the true Word of God, then yours isn't either. In terms of Christianity, for centuries, it is all there was.

Guest Verified:
You keep repeating that, but it isn't true. That's propaganda. The early church was Jewish.

swibily:
It isn’t propaganda, I am referring to the period prior to the Protestant Reformation, the very point of which should clearly illustrate that Catholics are Christians.

Guest Verified:
The Christian Church existed long before the pope or Martin Luther. Read the Bible.

swibily:
That has no bearing on whether the Catholic church is Christian. The Catholic church canonized the Bible to begin with.

Guest Verified:
You clearly are ignorant of basic church history and your own cult's history.

Guest Verified, Christian News Network 14 Comments [7/19/2018 11:03:41 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 138991

[They are all reacting to the same poster]

Re: Nationalist 'leprosy' spreading in Europe, Macron says

(DiethylamideProphet)

In MY opinion we should strengthen the EU and have it become a federal organisation. We should have an official language (Even as a French i know that English would be the more logical and efficient choice) and some standards (for example for electrical norms).


Why should we destroy all the cultural and ethnic diversity and self-governance by melting every nation to a one rootless and superficial economical bloc?

This kind of union should happen everywhere in the world, with south america, parts of Asia, Africa, the middle east...


If the unions would be like EU is today, I would have no issue with them. The issues arise when these unions start having authority over different peoples and their self-governing nations.

To finally unite mankind under one flag, one language, one economical and social system. The next step or one of the steps used for this should also be a greater push for space exploration and the institution of colonies. Survival of the specie being the key.


I don't want a world where all the cultures and languages are wiped out by some utopian vision of a united mankind.

Ask yourself, if not constrained by fictional boundaries, scarcity or artificial differences, without the idea of nation states, without outdated notions of binary ideologies and the market as a motivational factor, what exactly is it that keeps us from achieving all that mankind dreams ? Nothing.


My dream is a culturally diverse planet where different peoples have the means to choose their own future with their own rules and customs. Not an artificial political entity with huge power but zero legitimacy in the eyes of these people, controlling us in ways that we don't even want.

(Spirit_Inc)

Well then you dreams has no chance of surviving, it will only end in conflict.

I would rather choose conflict now and peace later than believing in a fairy tail and getting hit in the head after.


Imagining that there would be no conflicts in "united mankind" is such a delusion and fairy tale you talk about.

What do you think will happen when there will be no national competition and conflicts? There will be racial, ethnic, religious and ideological conflicts.

Nature hates vacuum.

Utopian ideologists are responsible for the most horrible atrocities in human history.

Still better than the stupid form of national institution we have right now.

Conflict can be solved if you have the will to do what need to be done also.


What is "better"? Do you know who religious and racist fanatics are? You will get that on global scale!

Same can be said about current way humans organize.

The idea of "humanity united under one flag" is more than obsolete. There will always be regions and cities, we are as close to the peaceful earth as it gets. Going further means global police state.

(denotative_designate)
Why should mankind be united under one flag?

That sounds like an entropic Christian hogwash to me.

(Zorthianator_V2)
Jesus dude, that's some fucked up naive, Star Trek, Sci-Fi bullshit that you just wrote.

Nah, I prefer to have my country, my culture and my language over some stitched up bullshit nation that usually ends with a shit ton of bloodshed.

Tribalism is human nature.

various commenters, r/europe 7 Comments [7/19/2018 11:03:30 AM]
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Quote# 138990

Peaceful multicultural societies don’t exist, Dutch FM says in explosive leaked speech

Peaceful multicultural societies don’t exist and the EU won’t be able to force “equal” migrant distribution on Eastern Europe, where people of color are beaten to a pulp, the Dutch FM said according to a leaked video.
The explosive comments were delivered by Dutch Foreign Minister Stef Blok during a private meeting attended by some 80 people working for the Netherlands’ international organizations. Footage of Blok speaking to the audience via video link was leaked to the current affairs program Zembla on Wednesday, and the inflammatory remarks promptly spread through the Dutch media.

“I have asked my ministry this and I will pose the question here as well,” Blok can be heard saying in the video. “Give me an example of a multi-ethnic or a multi-cultural society, in which the original population still lives, and where there is a peaceful cohabitation. I don’t know one.”

The minister went further and said it might be all fun and games to go to a “Turkish bakery on Sunday” if you live in a well-off part of a city, but a “number of side effects” promptly become tangible if one lives in a migrant-packed neighborhood.

“You very quickly reach the limits of what a society can take,” Blok stated.

One of the event goers gave Suriname as an example of a peaceful multicultural society. Bok, however, brushed off the claim, branding the former Dutch colony “a failed state.”

“And that is largely to do with the ethnic divisions,” Blok said.

Singapore was then given as an example of such a society. Blok agreed with that to a certain degree, stating, however, that the tiny South Asian country is actually very careful in its migration policies. “Singapore is indeed a mini-country, extremely selective in its migration,” Blok stated. “They do not allow poor migrants. Yes, eventually, possibly for cleaning.”

The minister also casted doubts on whether an agreement between the EU countries on “equal” distribution of migrants can actually be reached. Extreme levels of xenophobia, which allegedly persist in Eastern Europe would not allow the EU to “force through” such a deal, Blok claimed.

“Walk along any street in Warsaw or Prague. There are no colored people. These people are gone within a week, they get beaten to a pulp. They have no life there,” Blok stated. “I don’t think we are going to manage to force through an agreement at a central European level that every country will take the same number of refugees. Eastern Europeans will never agree.”

The Zembla program approached the minister for comment over his fiery speech at the event. Blok explained the speech was designed to spark a discussion, yet it was not quite suited for a larger audience.

“My role in the Q&A session was partly to stimulate. I used examples in the closed meeting which could be unfortunate in public debate,” he told Zembla.

The debate turned out to be larger than the minister expected, since a number of Dutch politicians – left-wingers, primarily – reacted angrily to his remarks. Labor MP and former foreign aid minister Lilianne Ploumen described Blok’s speech as “extremely unprofessional” and filed parliamentary questions on whether his remarks represented the cabinet policy. Others condemned the “crude” wording of the Blok speech and demanded that he explain it.

Stef Blok, rt.com 6 Comments [7/19/2018 11:03:25 AM]
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Quote# 138988

My son used to play Barbie with his older sisterHe grew out of it.
Now they knit together. Heck, I even learned to knit.

But they both have many other diverse interests.

We work very hard to not enforce gender stereotyped play, but I agree strongly in principle with parental discretion in limiting cross-gender behavior it when it becomes a problem. The extreme cases described in the diary are examples where the parents let the behavior get out of control for years and years.

It becomes a problem when it egregiously violates social norms.

For example, it's not appropriate for boys to wear dresses to school unless it's a costume. And parents who don't act before this becomes a risk (as evidenced by a growing preference at home) are playing with fire.

I can manage my own toleranceI can't manage the tolerance of every person that my child encounters.

Children are not social experiments.

Children are not exercises in public demonstration of moral outrage.

Children are not vehicles for political theater.

You get one chance with a child.

CA Libertarian, Daily Kos 6 Comments [7/19/2018 11:03:19 AM]
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Quote# 138987

Sermon 1:Episcopagans and Gender
By Bro. Steven R.
"But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven."-Matthew 10:33
"After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
11 Give us this day our daily bread.
12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen."-Matthew 6:9-13
Welcome to my new site! Let's talk about what the Episcopagans did during their general convention.
Apparently God doesn't have a gender anymore, despite God being quite clearly described using masculine terms in the Inspired KJV! Even in the Episcopagans own liberal NRSV God isn't an effeminate sissy! They want to turn Our Father into Our Parent or Guardian! They also want to make up more pronouns! Instead of Himself, they use Godself! How retarded are they?! Did these bishops ride the short bus to the general convention coming up with such malarkey?! Wicked!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is coming from the same geniuses who decided that it's appropriate for 6'4 men in drag to use the same bathroom as little Susie and her granny! How ridiculous! Apparently they're going to remove masculine gender terms from their prayer books! What's next, gender neutral Bibles?! Wait, I shouldn't give them any more idiotic ideas! Did Jesus have a pseudo vagina made from male genital mutilation like Bruce Jenner and Bradley Manning and Michael Soetoro and Daniel Roem?! Was ze "non-binary" or something else totally made up in liberal candy land?!
I really am lost for words! How do these morons have the nerve and gall to even call themselves Christians when they deny even that Jesus was a MAN?! Maybe they need to have an intellectually honest moment and join the pagans in the Unitarian Universalist group!

Steven R., SimplyChristian 8 Comments [7/19/2018 2:08:03 AM]
Fundie Index: 5

Quote# 138982

The Fake News Media menstruates over Trump’s “lies” but what they don’t see is that their agenda is driven by psychological projection of their own Big Lies onto Trump, who has committed the sin of telling Big Truths, which is a crucifix and garlic to the vampires of the media who traffic in pushing a decades-old Narrative that defies reality and sucks the lifeblood of healthy, humanized nationhood.

Trump’s very existence — and by extension the existence of an Army of Shitlords who voted for him — is a corporeal rebuke to the Lords of Lies. As I’ve written, Trump’s hyperbole is on the level of little fibs meant to drive his foes over the edge of sanity, exposing their inherent extremism, a provocation to which they dutifully comply. But in the world of Real News, Trump tells Big Truths, which daily reminds media whores that they sacrificed their integrity to tell Big Lies to push an agenda driven by self-fluffing fealty to their elitism.

The media are adept in telling Little Truths — adherence to semantics and trivial “fact checks” that hide more than they illuminate — to cloak themselves in the garb of trustworthiness and to conceal their real purpose as manipulators of consensus, but Big Truths like the kind Trump tells every day expose Big Lies to bleaching sunlight, which explains the incoherent rage of the media, deep state, and uniparty.

They can’t stand that Trump effortlessly and routinely belies their pretensions and exposes their malevolence simply by “telling it like it is”.

Trump tells more stone cold truth in a few days than the Globohomo Establishment — media, deep state, bureaucracy, academia, entertainment — tell in their miserable lives.

And that is why they hate him.

CH, Chateau Heartiste 18 Comments [7/19/2018 1:57:46 AM]
Fundie Index: 6

Quote# 138981

In 1884, meridian time personnel met
in Washington to change Earth time.
First words said was that only 1 day
could be used on Earth to not change
the 1 day bible. So they applied the 1
day and ignored the other 3 days.
The bible time was wrong then and it
proved wrong today. This a major lie
has so much evil feed from it's wrong.
No man on Earth has no belly-button,
it proves every believer on Earth a liar.

anonymous, Y! answers 8 Comments [7/19/2018 1:57:26 AM]
Fundie Index: 7

Quote# 138974

(=Regarding pro gay interpretations of scripture=)

"All evidence points to David and Jonathan being having a more than platonic"
What evidence?
"Still doesn't distract from the histrorical and cultural likelyhood that Jesus met a gay centurion, and gave him and his blessing to his lover"
Pure invention. First, learn to spell, second, the evidence is against your interpretation of 'pais'.

I P Knightly, Premier 6 Comments [7/18/2018 1:30:38 PM]
Fundie Index: 0

Quote# 138972

There are MANY thieves and robbers in the world today, who are trying to illegally enter Heaven. There is only one way to Heaven—God's way—which is by faith in Jesus Christ alone (John 14:6). Anyone who ADDS self-righteousness to faith is going to Hellfire, because genuine faith EXCLUDES all else. Many religions today teach the damnable heresy of Baptismal Regeneration, i.e., the false doctrine that a person MUST be water baptized to be saved. Many religions require good works of people in order to get to Heaven; BUT, Romans 4:5 states... “But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.”

Are you a thief or a robber? Have you been trying to get to Heaven some OTHER WAY, i.e., other than Jesus Christ alone? Acts 4:10-12 plainly states... “Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.” The Word of God couldn't be any clearer.

So many people today have their own way of doing things, and falsely think God is going to pardon them on Judgment Day. Think again! Cain was very sincere, but God refused his grain offering (Genesis 4:5). In Matthew 7:21-23 we read about some very sincere religious folks, but God rejected their professed goodness and religious commitment. Many people have a problem being told what to do. By nature, our rebellious sin-nature is selfish, and desires to do things it's own way. This is why most religious people are going to Hell—because they want a part in their own salvation—whether it be performing good works, forsaking their own sins, or being a faithful church member in a certain denomination. What most people FAIL to realize is that salvation is 100% of God, and not of man at all. Matthew 6:33 states... “But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.” If you want to go to Heaven, then you need HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS! Self-righteousness is a guaranteed road to Hellfire.

Judaism is of the Devil. Lutheranism is of the Devil. Seventh-Day Adventism is of the Devil. Mormonism and Jehovah's Witnesses are of the Devil. Islam is of the Devil. Catholicism is of the Devil. The Church of Christ is of the Devil. United Churches of Christ are of the Devil. The Charismatic Movement is of the Devil. The Church of England is of the Devil. These are all thieves and robbers, who are attempting to sneak into Heaven by SOME OTHER WAY (John 10:1).

You don't need to attempt to break into Heaven, by sneaking over a wall as a thief, or digging a tunnel underneath like some robber. The Door is wide open, a free gift if you'll receive it, paid for by the precious blood of Christ Jesus (1st Peter 1:18,19). Jesus Christ IS THE DOOR (John 10:9). Yes, there are many thieves and robbers today, who are seeking to enter Heaven apart from faith ALONE in Jesus Christ. Tragically, they will one day be in horror when they are pronounced GUILTY and then cast into the Lake of Fire forever.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 10 Comments [7/18/2018 1:30:19 PM]
Fundie Index: 2
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