Quote# 138679

Could the pre-flood world have had electronic technology?

I’ve wondered what kinds of technologies the pre-flood humans might have had. So far, archaeology has not unearthed any evidence of high-tech devices from that period of time.

Indeed, it is difficult to tell which if any of the present archaeological discovers are pre-flood, not least because most people working in that field don’t accept the historical account of the Deluge (and thus don’t consider it in their hypothetical chronologies). On top of that, it’s not at all certain that it would be feasible to find antediluvian sites given the volume of water and sediments that would have been involved in the catastrophe.

Because of my questions in this area, I was interested to learn about the work of Jamie O’Shea of the Office for the Development of Substitute Materials. He calls his current project Immaculate Telegraphy. What he is attempting to do is determine and demonstrate whether humans at any time in history could have constructed an electronic communication network.

O’Shea says what he is attempting to do is “build a functional electric battery and telegraph switch from materials found in the wilderness, using no modern tools except information from the internet.”

At Immaculate Telegraphy O’Shea has photos of some of the tools he has made and videos of some of his processes, including making an axe and a basket. (Amusingly, in the videos he is out in the woods wearing a suit and tie.) Here is a link to a photo of his basket:

In the antediluvian world, humans would have had certain advantages in their efforts to develop technologies of all kinds:

A long life span that would have allowed any single person to develop a large store of lifetime knowledge and skill. The long life span would also have resulted in large overlaps with one’s ancestors, and thus the opportunity to acquire extensive knowledge from others.
A planet with much greater diversity (most likely) of plant life, which could have yielded chemicals and other resources not known today.
The assistance of angels who had left their positions in the spirit realm to come and live among humans. (See Genesis 6:2, 4; Jude 6)

Jamie O’Shea looks like an interesting guy — kind of a mixture of artist and mad scientist. (See the video “Artificial Time Travel With Jamie O’Shea.”)

To see some of the resources O’Shea has found on the Internet for his telegraphy project, go to his bookmarks on Delicious. They include sites about how to find metals and minerals and how to fashion stone-age tools. One of his links is to The Toaster Project by Thomas Thwaites, who is trying to build a toaster from scratch.

arking,  A. Roy King Perspectives on an Ancient World 3 Comments [7/8/2018 6:29:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

Quote# 138597

Born-again Gentiles have as much right to claim the promises made to Israel as Jews do. This is not to say that I believe the Church replaces Israel (called “Replacement Theology”), because I don't. When the true Messiah comes (Jesus Christ), He will establish true Israel and reign from the literal throne of David during the 1,000 year Millennium. Unsaved Christ-rejecting Jews all go to burn in Hell. All born-again Arabs, Jews and Gentiles will enjoy the promises and blessings of God.

The present state of Israel was birthed in 1948 as a Democracy, a secular state, not a Jewish theocracy. This is not the restored nation of Israel as promised in the Scriptures. The true nation of Israel fell in 586 BC and still hasn't been restored. What exists today is a Masonic, Marxist-Communist state begun and controlled by the Illuminati, who also control the United States. The Illuminati (Luciferian worshippers who politically fornicate with the kings of this world - Revelation 18:3-9) is “The Great Whore” - Revelation 19:2). This is why the coming Antichrist half-way through the Tribulation, will stand up in the new Illuminati Temple in JERUSALEM, and claim to be God - 2nd Thessalonians 2:4-12). Wake up oh Christian!

The churches are being deceived and misled into all sorts of heresies because they have been desensitized. All of the different Bible versions have caused the churches to become indifferent, confused, unconcerned, ecumenical, dead and vulnerable. Since the purity of God's Word is not that important to most churchgoers, they are easily duped by mainstream religious leaders to support illegal wars, criminal Presidential candidates, Zionism, LGBT rights, same-sex marriages, et cetera. Will you also be deceived?

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Precious 1 Comments [7/8/2018 6:28:50 AM]
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Quote# 138596

The lgbt community is the one spreading the hate, not the Christians, and we are the ones spreading the love, not them. All they are spreading is sin... and AIDS. We share the gospel of salvation from SINS like theirs... by JESUS, aka 'conversion therapy' and aka 'love', the LOVE of GOD to lead them out of their slavery to sin! But as the Bible says... the sinners call good evil and evil good...

Lydia Church, Christian News Network 3 Comments [7/8/2018 6:28:13 AM]
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Quote# 138676

Screw that. Marxist whores aren't worth saving.

My ethnostate will consist of imported thai or slavic brides trained in culinary and domestic arts. The thai brides will of course be inseminated with my seed and swedish bikini model eggs purchased on the black market. This way my adonis looking fashy sons will grow up with nothing but Taylor Swift looking traditional women.

Don't get me wrong. I will welcome traditional white women that want to hack it but we need to be realistic that the first gen will be short on women. Women don't show up till you've already crossed the finish line

Send_nasty_stuff, Reddit 6 Comments [7/8/2018 6:28:06 AM]
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Quote# 138588

(=On mistranslations, alterations or errors of the Bible over the centuries=)

Alan Minchin: I return again to a previous question. Are you claiming that there has been a massive fraud in the scholarship behind the production of today's modern translations?

Reverend William H. Carey: Sorry, but your denials carry no weight. The evidence for deliberate scriptural tampering is overwhelming and irrefutable, and any honest Hebrew and Greek scholar will acknowledge it. (And first year student of the languages could spot the errors without difficulty.)
I notice you didn't bother to try to defend your claims about sodomites. Very wise. But you also didn't address the clear errors in Deut. 6:4 in most versions, and Col. 1:19 in about half of all versions.

Alan Minchin: Oh dear. "Yes, obviously, there has been a conspiracy over the past four centuries to pervert the message of the Bible". Your statement can be seen as clearly nonsensical, even paranoic, when rationally seen against the large numbers of biblical scholars (of many traditions) who have been involved, over many decades, in bringing to us today's English language translations.
....
Remember - to destroy the Christian gospel one first has to destroy the credibility and authority of The Bible.

Alan Minchin, Disqus 1 Comments [7/8/2018 6:27:24 AM]
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Submitted By: CC

Quote# 138675

Christians are called to love and serve others as Jesus died for all. However, we are not to become entangled in sin. 1Co 9 : 19-23 Heb 12 : 1 also v14-16 Jude 22,23.
You know full well it`s the message on the banner that the printer refuses, not the customer.
God is jealous for those who are His, and commands us to serve no other gods. Ex 20 : 3 also 34 : 14.
Whatever we can`t say "no" to is our god(s). The practice of homosexuality is your god petej, as you`ve tirelessly campaigned on this site for well over two years.
The LGBT have gleefully latched onto a form of revenge against Christians. Equality? They`re not interested. No one hopes for what he already has. Civil Partnership, with celibacy, is equality. Anything beyond that is vengeful.

Peter Bell, Premeir 2 Comments [7/8/2018 6:27:14 AM]
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Quote# 138674

(In response to: "Is it a sin to use marijuana?")

This answer is very logical and slot of people try to bypass the truth and ignore God's words. The answer is simple. Jesus came to a wedding here on earth and did what? Turned water into wine right? So where does it say Jesus grew a field of marijuana plants instantly on the land. He didn't perform that miracle because he wouldn't jeopardize our salvation through His death.

Many people have this theory mixed up. People have made marijuana a system, and this system now follows them and their finances. The system they created now runs their life and their life style, and it's a system like any other system that becomes a hard habit to break.

I believe based on what I've read in the Bible itself that using marijuana not only hurts your body to a certain extent, but it is completely a abomination in God's eyes. We are Gods %100 anything else besides Him is a system you create from your past and your experience, and as long as the enemy can use things like marijuana to stop you from fulfilling your purpose for God… he will tempt you always.

If you want to get medical then your going to tell me it cures this and that but if you want to get spiritual then me or who ever else uses marijuana is just like the rest of them who wont inherit heaven…. In God's eyes not my eyes. You have a purpose and you have a spiritual realm, but the enemy lives in the carnal and the flesh realm, and his purpose is to use whatever he can to stop you from being God's child.

Richard Rivera, Quora 4 Comments [7/8/2018 6:27:02 AM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

Quote# 138673

Yes and proud to call myself a Calvinist, tulips are my favourite flower, but that will probably go over your head! I do however read the other books you refer to but I have yet to find justification for sexual depravity in any of them. Have a nice day.

Arthur Miskelly, Premier 5 Comments [7/8/2018 6:26:26 AM]
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Quote# 138671

Lord Bertram: Who are these oppressed and marginalized?

DavidS: In this case same-sex couples and their children.

Lord Bertram: Same sex couples are openly sinning

TS (unami): No they are NOT.

Lord Bertram : According to you but not God who says it is a sin. The Bible has nothing positive to say about same sex sexual relationships

KennyCraig: The Bible has nothing positive to say about bakers, plumbers, professors, and others: all sinners?

Mark Jones: Actually the people in Israel are given instructions on how to bake bread ... so bakers is off your list there ;)

KennyCraig: OK, bakers, slavers and stoners off the list.

Mark Jones: So now you’ll hopefully start to realise why you shouldn’t make silly statements like that Kenny.

KennyCraig: I'm afraid you missed the point.

Mark Jones: You didn’t have an actual point. So no I didn’t. But thanks for trying.

KennyCraig: Speaking of denial...

Mark Jones: That wasn’t denial I’m afraid Kenny.

KennyCraig: No doubt that you're afraid.

Mark Jones: And what exactly am I afraid of there Kenny?

KennyCraig: Oh, you know, Mark, you know...

Mark Jones: So you have nothing to back up your claims as per usual Kenny. Good to know, thanks.

Lord Bertram: That is a ridiculous statement

KennyCraig: Directly proportional to [and clearly refuting] yours: a conduct that is not praised is not necessarily a sin.

Mark Jones: Sorry ... but how exactly did you figure that was a refutation there Kenny?

KennyCraig: Something not praised is not necessarily a sin: is that difficult to understand?

Mark Jones: But something deemed as a sin is a sin: is that difficult to understand?

(...)

Mark Jones: I am more willing to support others and give them information that will help fill out some of the blanks.

KennyCraig: So you should also provide information on yourself, as he doesn't believe you wrote insults to @TSawesome. I had to provide him a list: "hateful little witch", "coward", "idiot", "liar" "you're damaging your children", "terrible parent", "utterly evil and repulsive". Sorry if I forgot many, but I don't have so much time (and stomach) to browse your comments.

Mark Jones: I have no shame in stating the things about TS that I have said in the past as they are all factually accurate statements. If you don’t have the stomach to listen to me speaking the truth then that’s an issue with you I’m afraid.

KennyCraig: They are insults, mere shameful insults. Calling them "accurate statements" sheds further light.

Mark Jones: No need for the air quotes there Kenny, they were factual statements. But you already know this and are just trying to paint them as not being so because as heinous of an individual as she is, she’s on your side. Says a lot that really doesn’t it?

KennyCraig: How could "little witch" and "terrible parent" be factual statements?

Mark Jones: Read her comments and then you may understand Kenny.

KennyCraig:
I've already read them. I followed that discussion at the time, and frankly I think you should find the courage to apologize with her, eventually.

Mark Jones: You clearly didn’t read them properly then. And I’m well aware you were following the thread then ... but you were trolling it so we can’t expect a truthful representation of that discussion to come from you can we? I was hoping you’d grown a bit since that time. I’m suspecting that may not be the case.

KennyCraig: I made the same mistake and probably overestimated your abilities to relate with people. Unfortunately, I see that you're locking yourself into the same attitude. Have a good evening and good luck with the World Cup.

Mark Jones: Lol ... and here is the typical troll tactic make the other person the problem when they don’t get their own. It’s quite an immature way of handling things that Kenny.

Mark Jones @ Lord Bertram, Premier 7 Comments [7/7/2018 4:15:22 PM]
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Quote# 138670

Roy Davey-Jenkins: What perversity has engulfed those Presbyterians who express "profound hurt" at Godly decisions! What sight malfunction has inflicted those Presbyterians who view standing on God's Word as an "unnecessary narrowing"! What madness has come upon those Presbyterians who believe that faithful adherence to God's revelation in Scripture will "damage our credibility"!

petej: Lots of church members will have family members who are gay. It is bound to hurt and upset them to see their family members excluded from the church. In fact, it would be a bit of a worry if they felt nothing.

Arthur Miskelly: I have a lesbian family member, whom I love, and have told her so. I have also told her that her lifestyle is sinful and that I could not give my blessing or support at her decision to enter a civil partnership I would be doing her no favours if I did, in fact I would be accepting her route to hell. I would vote against her if she were ever considering church membership, without repenting, in its truest form.

petej: How can she repent of something she didn't choose and has no power to change?
How does your love for her manifest itself? Does she believe your lifestyle is sinful? Has she told you?

Arthur Miskelly: I believe from scripture that it is her choice. No one is born "gay" it is a nurtured condition. I am afraid you have bought Satan's lie which scripture warns us about. I manifest my love for her by praying for her deliverance from this particular sin, not by applauding or condoning it and of course for her soul's salvation. Why am I not surprised at your perverse interpretation of "love"? She does not believe my lifestyle is sinful and surprise ! I know she loves and respects me. I hope this answers your questions.

petej: So is it her choice or a nurtured condition? In what way did her parents fail? I didn’t give an interpretation of love. You claimed to love her. I asked how that was manifest. I’m still asking really because I think just praying for someone to radically change is not really love. I pray for President Trump to radically change, but I don’t think he or I would describe that as love.

Eileen Johnston: Can only take issue with you on your view that your daughter "chose" to have same - sex attraction As I have known my son from birth I know absolutely that this is not true. But it's what we choose to do with our lives, and our weaknesses and temptations that matter to God. Blessings!

Arthur Miskelly: I'm afraid we will have to disagree on that point. It was a bolt from the blue for us. I still love her dearly. Stay Blessed

sandinwindsor: homosexuality is a choice
Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts.Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error. Romans 1:26
Choice
In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire Jude 1:7
Choice

TS (unami): Well said, petej.

(...)

TS (unami): How sad, that you reject your child, made in the Image of God, just because of your fear of what you don't understand. God was pleased to make her with her innate orientation just as He was pleased with yours.

Arthur Miskelly: God did not make her with an innate orientation, it was nurtured over many years. I was the one who saw it, not you. I would be condemning her to hell if I embraced, as you put it “her innate orientation”. She is in sin, do not be misled, but I love her. I do not reject her, she is always a welcome child, but sadly she is an unrepentant sinner, no different to three of my sons who are heterosexual incidentally.

Mark Jones: Very well said there Arthur ... thank you for your refreshing and Godly perspective on this matter. It is truly a rarity to see true believers standing by the truth here on Premier.

Arthur Miskelly, Disqus 4 Comments [7/7/2018 4:15:15 PM]
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Quote# 138669

God doesn’t make anyone sinners though TS. So he doesn’t make gay people I’m afraid.

Mark Jones, Premier 6 Comments [7/7/2018 4:15:11 PM]
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Quote# 138668

You, the left are at war with nature and human instinct itself. That's why demographics are important, ANY group/race/identity that sees it has a chance to overwhelm and control another, especially a majority it can accuse, will. That is how it is. It is universal among ALL races and even all animals and plants.

The fatal flaw in the lefts Satanic socialist attack is white people have been THE ABSOLUTE MOST altruistic, open and giving on earth bar none constantly at war with ourselves to do the best we can by others. Despite the mistakes ever made. We are uniquely the only to struggle against human nature and try to do the right thing for ALL.

That is why the left attempt will ultimately fail because white people can, will and are defending themselves with a clear conscience. We have created dependent entitled mindsets, not uplifted. The ones that rose to our level are the worthy few, done by OUR rules, and VALUES including Christian values that form the foundation of it all, because they are the best.

Empirically, objectively and historically irrefutable. Our values are superior, to ALL, and we have every natural right to defend our heritage and race just like everyone else does.

In two centuries socialism has enriched not one nation, helped not one working individual, and has uplifted only a handful of opportunists who would just as soon have taken up laissez faire capitalism, communism, or oligarchism, were it to have been of benefit to them at the time. It is a vehicle for envious opportunists to destroy majorities and nothing more. You are either with us, or you are against us, and let history be your guide. Chose wisely.


Aidebaran333, Reddit 4 Comments [7/7/2018 4:15:03 PM]
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Quote# 138667

Well yeah...i believe it. Often even white liberals protest a bit too much as if they feel guilty about what they really believe. The alt right certainly has a more realistic view of human nature.

Fiveos2, Reddit 0 Comments [7/7/2018 4:14:42 PM]
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Quote# 138664

To ask God to have mercy on an atheist Jew (enemy squared of God), who committed suicide, is to lack the Catholic Faith.

1) suicide is an unforgivable sin; it's a sin against the Holy Ghost, which is unforgivable
2) enemies of God (Jews and atheists are among His enemies) who die unrepentant are damned for eternity

There is a high correlation between "Catholics" who ask God to have mercy on dead atheists, Jews & people who commit suicide, and people who believe in "BOD/BOB" & "invincible ignorance".

Croix de Fer, Cathinfo 8 Comments [7/7/2018 4:12:36 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 138662

What you think you should do about the muslim colonization of Europe? Must work for a political change, take the left out of power, and give Europe back to the people, and return it to its roots. That or extinction and we will be genocided once theyre the majority.

victim of the sspx, Cathinfo 4 Comments [7/7/2018 4:12:21 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 138653

I don't know about you guys, but where I live in the Midwest, most white people have no idea what is going on. They know that the country has gone insane, but they don't know how or why it went insane. But one thing they easily understand is mass migration. They want the mass immigration to stop but low key what they really mean by ending immigrant is actually anyone who isn't white. You can easily tell. I've had tons of conversations with other white people about immigration and this is a huge elephant in the room that normies understand but are too afraid to admit. Behind close doors however, multiple people have agreed with me that America cannot exist without a white majority.

You can literally feel the racial tension in the air these days. For example a couple of days ago I was at the store and there were two girls with hijabs checking out speaking arabic. It seemed as if everyone in line was staring at them angrily in disbelief. If Mexicans are speaking spanish I've also seen similar glares happen. Many of my friends are also easier to persuade with alt right thinking points these days; something which would've alienated me from them for discussing in 2008.

Based on what I've seen, I think that many white people are already alt right. It's just that they are stuck in the closet trying to accept the truth for what it is. Very soon people will start coming out in droves. The question is when? And which of these options below will be chosen? We certainly live in interesting times.

a. in less than 10 years: America is BARELY saved democratically thanks to mass redpilling of whites through theinternet.

b. in less than 30 years: The economy collapses resulting in a civil war after racial tensions finally ignite. Balkanization? anuclear war? The United States remains intact? What happens next nobody knows.

c. ?: The military gets sick of the (((establishment))) and takes over in order to preserve the union. This is probably theeasiest, least violent, most preferred way.


RestorationKenny, /r/DebateAltRight 9 Comments [7/7/2018 11:38:06 AM]
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Quote# 138649

[Serious] Incels are the coolest and most interesting people on earth

Not even bullshitting, but ive been incel all my life (im 31) and have always gravitated towards other incels even before i knew what the term was. What i can tell you is that there is no other group of people id rather hang out with than incels. i only want females for sex, but as soon as that need is taken care of, incels are the guys i want to call up and hang out with. Normies, chads, chadlites, femoids, etc. all have shitty and boring personalities. from being locked up in my room for the majority of my existence, i have learned unfathomable amounts of facts and other information from the internet (my true father). i am well versed in various topics such as:

-sports (football, basketball, boxing, mma, etc.)
-nutrition/gymcelling
-movies (seen thousands of movies, domestic and foreign. and not just norm-shit movies like 50 shades of grey or ted)
-television (modern TV is cucked but i used to watch shows like married with children and many others)
-arts and crafts
-music (huge old school hip hop and rock fan. foreign music as well)
-video games (ive played every genre you can imagine and had almost every sytem dating back to NES)
-politics
-philosophical topics (theories on space, on afterlife, on religion, etc.)
-fashion (i dont spend money on clothes these days but i keep up with trends and i am a fan of watches)

the list goes on and im 10000% certain that you other incels are just as interesting. the reason we dont get along with most of society is because we are TOO SMART and TOO interesting for the average fucking normie. we have nothing to talk about with them because THEY have nothing to talk about other than last nights episode of "insert shit tv show" and whatever popular pop star is currently trending. there is a wealth of knowledge that we have that norms never needed to acquire since they were able to get by on looks alone. another thing about incels is that we are usually the funniest, most quick-witted people and have a great sense of humor. Just look at the memes we create. our sarcastic wit is unmatched. have u ever tried to watch a normie/female stand up comedian? cringe worthy shit at best. they cant even come close to true incel comedians like george carlin, martin lawrence, etc.

ive always yearned for friends that i can sit back with and discuss which resident evil game was the best. was it 2? or maybe 4? which zelda was the best? twilight princess? majoras mask? Was die hard 1 better than the professional? was predator better than terminator? Whats the best FPS of all time? half life 2? goldeneye 64? You cant have these sort of convos with norms because not only can they not participate or add insightful input, but they also will just label you as a nerd. Incels are the only people truly capable of having intelligent convos about some of the topics i listed. a fucking norm will start to feel uncomfortable and switch the topic over to current trends as soon as he/she can. also, from my personal experience, an incel can verbally destroy a normie/chad in a debate due to our quick-witted minds that we developed over the years. unless you are an autist or some shit. cheer up incels, we really do have the best personalities. i know it doesnt help much since looks are the only thing that matters, but i love you guys:feelsokman:

stretch-cel, incels.me 11 Comments [7/7/2018 11:03:27 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 138642

I'm bumping this up and I knew this had been discussed before. I also work at a public library and we are also having drag queens come in and read stories to children. This is so nasty. I'm sure this is a thing of the future. We also had gay pride displays all over the library "celebrating" gay pride month in June, the traditional wedding month.

No where have I seen a Christianity display proclaiming the Gospel of Jesus Christ, our Creator and Saviour. And I won't either. The libraries and cities now seem to be run by flaming liberals. Conservatives don't have a voice and if they express an opinion, they are shot down by these deviants, or lose their jobs.

Yes, I'm ready for Jesus to return for us. Surely it cannot be much longer!

sherrid, Rapture Ready 6 Comments [7/7/2018 9:00:01 AM]
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Quote# 138641

Run, Do Not Walk, Just GO!!!
June 25th, 2018, 05:40 PM
https://creationmuseum.org/
https://arkencounter.com/

Went to wedding in Ohio. We stayed in a La Quinta outside of Cincinnati and drove over the border into Kentucky 2 days in a row. First day we went to The Ark. Second day to the Creation Museum. I was so shocked. I had really not heard anything about these 2 places. They were AWESOME. At Creation Museum attended a 1 hour talk by Ken Ham entitled "How to take the Gospel to our Secularized Culture" and then was in the audience for the 1/2 hour programme of "Answers News". These 2 events are included in the price of admission. I was so shocked because my husband works at a large church and we have never heard about these places. I have tried for years to get my husband to pay attention to the awful teaching/preaching of very popular pastors/teachers and he has refused to listen. Oh, my goodness. Ken Ham in the 1 hour talk showed 5 videos of Andy Stanley saying just really unbiblical stuff. Kevin was really shocked. I said to him afterwards "Do you see why I try to show you all this stuff?" and he said yes. He asked me to find these video clips on Andy Stanley and I did on Ken Ham's website and sent them to him. He is going to review these with 2 pastors at our church. I finally feel like I have had a breakthrough getting my husband to understand what is going on.

Of note at the Creation museum....they have an exhibit on what happened at Mt. St. Helen's. Eleven years after it blew they did Potassium Argon dating of the lava spills and the results said that the event happened about 250,000 years ago!!!!!!!!!!!! Not the 11 years actual interval.

The Ark answered so many questions and shows that what Genesis describes can actually be built. So, much for children and young adults to learn. Ken Ham said that the day we were at the Ark a boy was saved after watching one of the two movies they have.

I wish I could drag my whole extended family there. Go there everyone and take as many family members as you can!!!!





Oh, and the reason I say "Run" is that Ken Ham says the LGBT etc. faction is trying to shut down both sites. So there is no guarantee that they will be there say in 3 years.


Sunshine, Rapture Ready 18 Comments [7/7/2018 8:59:33 AM]
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Quote# 138638

That trusty, old truism, “the Bible isn’t a science text book” should fit alongside the truism, “_On the Origin of Species _ is not a theology textbook.” But neither truism works for Evolutionary Creationists whose theology injects the Genesis account with their faith in the mythic scientism of Darwinian evolution.

Your comment (below), “...it [Scripture] also isn't the total and complete revelation about God and His amazing works,” exposes 'your phantom’s' misunderstanding of the perfect power of Scripture’s revelation: “For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart (Hebrews 4:12).” This is ‘His amazing work’.

So your phantom (which you can’t “deconstruct”) is the spawn of disbelief in the creative instantaneity of God's work in the Genesis decrees. You do believe, however, “…in the words which man's wisdom teaches (1 Corinthians 2:13),” that life (then the biosphere, and then consciousness) began 3.8 billion [?] years ago.

Again, this theological/evolutionary hybrid will never find a Scripture which either identifies or alludes to the existence of the Darwinian anti-Genesis contraption--which you are defending.

paroikos, Christian News Network 7 Comments [7/7/2018 8:59:19 AM]
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Submitted By: Bob J

Quote# 138637

Without a god, why is it wrong to rape children?

You cannot answer this.

If you say it is wrong, I will ask, says who?

You have no one to base your moral subjective view on. Your subjective view can be dismissed by my right to live freely.

God gives us the moral grounds to say "raping children is wrong" but without God, you have no way to back up your subjective reality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0218GkAGbnU

BowlOfZombies, Reddit 14 Comments [7/7/2018 8:59:15 AM]
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Submitted By: Paradox

Quote# 138633

[From "Annapolis Shooting"]

I think we can say trust in the media hit a new all time low this afternoon:

“Jarrod W. Ramos, who law enforcement sources say used a shotgun to blast his way into the Capital Gazette newsroom on Thursday, killing five people and wounding two others, had a long-running dispute with the news organization.

He had previously made “general threats” against the community newspaper company over social media, including some as recent Thursday, said William Krampf, Anne Arundel County’s acting police chief. The threats “indicated violence,” Chief Krampf said. …

His feud with The Capital, the chain’s daily newspaper, apparently began with a column in 2011 that detailed his alleged harassment of a high school classmate.”


Contrary to earlier reports, the shooting in Annapolis seems to have had nothing to do with MILO or President Trump describing the press as “the enemy of the people.”

I will reiterate what I said on Gab earlier this evening:

I’ve interacted with the press more than most people and have been smeared in countless hit pieces over the years. At the same time, I have met journalists and reporters who were fair in their articles and I can’t imagine why anyone would want to harm them. In Charlottesville, there were reporters who portrayed the events of August 12th as a “Neo-Nazi domestic terrorist attack.” There were others like Millie Weaver who were attacked by Antifa. Some of our medics treated their injuries that day.

The mainstream media is full of serial liars who are engaging in politics under the cover of journalism. This is why President Trump denounces the press as “the enemy of the American people.” These people act like a hostile elite who have nothing but contempt for ordinary Americans. I just want to stress that not every journalist is our enemy. Some local reporters are just ordinary people doing their jobs. The press needs to reflect on how they as a class have become so alienated from millions of their fellow citizens and change their irresponsible behavior before we see more days like this one.

Millions will hear this news and smile while others will not approve, but will understand the motives of Jarrod Ramos. No one celebrates school shootings while lots of people will rejoice when journalists are shot because they have watched them ruin the lives of people like Andrew Dodson. This shooting in Annapolis is a new milestone in the hatred of the press that might inspire copycats.

If you are a journalist, today was a reminder of the need to show grace and common decency to the people you cover in your stories.

Hunter Wallace, Occidental Dissent 2 Comments [7/7/2018 8:58:55 AM]
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To understand the forty and two months that the beast will reign, we must first find the method of time the Bible declares for prophecy. God says in Ezekiel 4:6 "I have appointed thee each day for a year" And we also find the Bible acknowledges a month to be 30 days long. Because in, Genesis 7:11 we see the rain started on the 17 day of the 2nd month and in Genesis 8:3,4 we find the water receded at the end of 150 days, then it says the ark rested on the 17th day of the 7th month. That's exactly 5 months. If we divide the 150 days by the 5 months you get 30 days per month. So 42 months multiplied by 30 equals 1260. According to Ezekiel 4:6, that's 1260 years that Papal Rome would reign.

Nicholas aka Presents/Remnants of God, Rational Wiki 6 Comments [7/7/2018 8:58:52 AM]
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Kelantan deputy MB: Child marriage ‘common’, LGBT a bigger issue

KUALA LUMPUR, July 4 — Malaysians should not amplify and sensationalise the issue of child marriages, Kelantan deputy mentri besar Datuk Mohd Amar Nik Abdullah said today after a case involving a man there caused public uproar.

Mohd Amar told Sinar Harian that child marriage has long been a common occurrence, and authorities should instead pay attention to “bigger issues” such as LGBT matters and zina, or illicit sex.

“I feel this issue should not be sensationalised. Like I always said, the issue of zina, children born out of wedlock, gays and lesbians, are bigger issues for the country.

“This issue is not wrong in religion, and should not be amplified as a national issue. It is an isolated case, not all men marry an 11-year-old,” he was quoted as saying.

He also insisted that the illegal wedding happened in southern Thailand and not in his state.

The Narathiwat Islamic Religious Council was reported as saying the couple were married by an imam in Kampung Padang Nyor, Mukim Munok, Sungai Golok, in Narathiwat.

Bernama reported earlier that the Kelantan police have opened an investigation paper on the child marriage involving an 11-year-old girl with a 41-year-old man in Gua Musang recently.

State police chief Datuk Hasanuddin Hassan said although there was no criminal element involved in the marriage, the case was opened on the grounds that the girl was an underage bride.

Datuk Mohd Amar Nik Abdullah, Malay Mail 2 Comments [7/7/2018 8:58:49 AM]
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How was everyone's 4th of July holiday? Hope you didn't eat too much! I've been busy working on and pounding out THREE brand new books.

People ask me why do I write so many ebooks? My answer is always the same: What if I died today - all of the books I could've written would die with me. I wouldn't want that to happen, so when the idea or mood to create a new book strikes, I submit to the urge and let the book come forth.

I refuse to die with my work left undone.

Right now I'm working on the ebooks Woke, Voodoo and The 5th Angel - The Statue of Liberty and Satan's Hidden Hand. These ebooks will all be out this month. And I believe they will be a massive blessing in your life.

However, we still don't have the Eden Decoded website up. Due to the fact it took so long to raise what was needed on time to get it back online, we lost ALL of our old files. The web hosting company deletes the files after a certain time period. Which basically means now we have to rebuild an entire website from scratch, which is a massive headache and unnecessary expense.

This has happened at least TEN TIMES over the past year! And it typically happens because people ignore my requests for help, thinking someone else will always give. Only problem with that way of thinking is that too many people think the same way! So very little ends up coming in to help at all.

Since people don't like to just give without expecting something in return, I've been offering the 5th Angel ebook as a special product this week only for those who bless our efforts with a twenty dollar (or more) contribution. Many have responded. However, we need much more.

Let's get the Eden site back up. The sooner I can get the site up the sooner I can get these new ebooks out and into your hands (as well as more impactful articles). I placed a link in the comment section below for you to use. Please take a second to stop what you're doing, make use of it right now and do the very best you can today. And remember: if YOU don't act, NO ONE probably will.

I pray you have a productive remaining work week. I also pray that God puts a fire beneath you that causes everyone reading this to become a giver today. There are blessings God has that can only come into your life through being a giver.

Tap into those special blessings today!

Mack Major, Facebook 18 Comments [7/6/2018 9:51:10 AM]
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