Quote# 138724

Backstory: I don't want to get into details, but tl:dr my little sister has been sexually abused by my cousin. This has been happening for about a year and a half - from when she was 12 to 13. My cousin was 16-17 during this period.


Greenriverthriller: "If your sister is happy and fine with it and your cousin isn't going around molesting. You are the only one with a problem here
I know this doesn't fall in line with your obviously passive-aggressive nature, but how about doing eactly what you said? Go up to him and say "Never do this again - I am absolutely serious". It blows my mind the sheer number of people on reddit that can't deal with thier own shit like adults. TL;DR - Man the fuck up, or deal with the fact your little sister has a vagina and wants to use it.
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Deleted: "Was it consensual? Keep in mind that Albert Einstein married his first cousin. Four years isn't a crazy age gap. Is it actually such a bad thing, or is it just arbitrary societal conventions that tell you it's bad? Is it really bad enough to "ruin someone's life" over it?"

MrTulip: "if it was consensual i don't see why you should be upset, or rather have a right to be. what did they do exactly and why are you so sure it is abuse? some of my female friends had their first sexual encounters at that age and they turned out just fine...




but if a 12 year old decided to have sex with someone older, even my sister, i would be okay with it, yes. as long as it's sure that no abuse is involved. a former girlfriend of mine decided to lose her virginity at the age of 12, seduced a 20-year-old and that was it. i'm okay with that, too.

just because something is against the law doesn't mean it's inherently wrong or immoral."[


ChaosMotor:"If your sister is in love, I don't think you should stand in the way
I don't really see a huge age difference in 13 and 16. Until very, very recently, it was common for men much older than him to marry girls of that age.

What is wrong with a 16 year old and a 13 year old being in love? Please explain without using the term pedophile, seeing as how the time of menarche for the average american female is 11.6 years, so this girl is almost certainly not a child.
Was I a bad person at 17 for being crazy about a 14 year old classmate? I certainly don't think so, and neither did she. I can't think of a reason why anyone would have a problem with it except jealousy or a misplaced sense of overprotective forced childhood morality.

I'm 28 now and have been talking to a 22 year old who likes me pretty well, that's twice the age gap, I must be an evil monster.

edit: It is human nature to be sexually attracted to females who are younger than you, as long as they are of breeding age. That's just life, son.





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Greenriverthriller,deleted,mrtulip,chaosmotor, Reddit 2 Comments [7/10/2018 12:10:57 AM]
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Quote# 138723

A lot of people seem to be up on a moral high horse about the issue. A lot of people seem to be trying to get you to think about "what if it was your daughter?" I can't get behind that. A lot of people try to protect women from the dangers of their own sexuality. This is wrong. Think instead, what if his son was the underage member of the equation? Would you still be offended? Would you still even care? I think many of you wouldn't.

I think this shows a kind of pervasive sexism that exists today. You make it seem like the girl was simply used and never given any kind of choice in the matter. How do you know that she didn't feel a love she wanted to share with her boyfriend of one year? Do you honestly think that an age difference of 3 years is totally acceptable, but that one extra year turns males evil?

I can only speak from my own experience with the subject, and perhaps it makes me biased in believing that girls can make the same choices at 14 that boys seem generally capable of making without a second thought.

Anyway, I started dating my future wife when I was 16 and she was 13. We hit it off pretty quickly and the age difference scared the shit out of me. I was always apprehensive of anything physical, and she felt that I just wasn't into her because I wouldn't even kiss her. We essentially broke up without so much as a peck on the lips. It's still something she holds against me. She wishes that I would have taken her virginity back then rather than the asshole she had given it to when I broke her heart.

Fast forward a year and we get back together for a short time. She makes it evident that she wants something more physical. She takes my virginity. She considers it one of the most fond memories of her life. We don't entirely last due to odd circumstances beyond our control, but the feelings persist.

Fast forward again to 2004. We kind of found each other again and spend a lot of time playing catch up. In February we'll have been together for 8 years. Our relationship is more stable than many of the married couples we know. It's not perfect, but we talk all the time and the sex is still awesome. She still thinks I was being a "pussy" for not making a move on her when she was 13.

You all would have me believe that she was, and is, still incapable of making any choices for herself. I guess I should also be a registered sex offender for my loving relationship? But then again, fuck you

Rurikloderr, Reddit 0 Comments [7/10/2018 12:10:52 AM]
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Quote# 138722

Guilt. Europe is dominated by sneering liberals who basically hate their own country. If you said to the average Japanese person “would you like a few million African migrants over the next decade?” they would reply “of course not! That would totally change our racial and cultural identity. We are fine the way we are. Why would do such a crazy thing?” To the Japanese (or Chinese) it seems perfectly natural to want to preserve your identity. In Western countries, multiculturalism and racial diversity have become new religions. People are hysterical about both and won’t tolerate any criticisms or objections. In general, it is the liberal middle-classes (hidden away in the leafy suburbs) who defend multiculturalism and mass immigration, and it is the white working-class (those who have to deal with the consequences) who oppose it.

Liam Johnson, Quora 2 Comments [7/10/2018 12:10:35 AM]
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Quote# 138720

I would also have a question for those who believe that desiring cultural and ethnic homogeneity is necessarily racist. Do you feel that way about American Indian reservations, whose geographic ambit and legitimate membership is defined solely by ethnicity? What about hunter-gatherer tribes? Should they be expected to admit members from all parts of the world in such numbers as to completely remove their cultures? I doubt it. A case in favour of preserving such “victimized” and “vulnerable” groups of people is likely to be made in response to my question. However, to that response I would pose another question. Are you not treating such people differently based on their ethnicity and shared history? Is that not racist? If not, then why are people who do not share your specific pre-packaged neo-liberal family of ideas, who do the same thing, racist?

Thomas Abernathy, Quora  3 Comments [7/10/2018 12:09:49 AM]
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Quote# 138719

Stacking the Court with yet another Roman Catholic is a betrayal to both God and Country. Gorsuch is the first Evangelical Protestant to serve on the Supreme Court in my lifetime (1981- present). This is a travesty and crippling to our country. The Founding Fathers admitted only three Roman Catholics among their numbers over the course of our founding, and with good reason. Recognizing the Bible as the highest authority on earth and the only source of Scripture, as well as, the need to be "born again" ought to be prerequisite in choosing our members of government, especially on the Supreme Court. I had a feeling from the moment I heard Justice Kennedy's announcement that Trump was going to pick a softer nominee this time.

jesse, Christian News Network 8 Comments [7/10/2018 12:08:45 AM]
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Submitted By: Bob J

Quote# 138715

Agnostics are the most intellectually honest of non-believers. They admit they don’t know one way or the other, or care. No evidence either way.

Atheists reject the thought of a GOD because it would mandate a change in their behavior and values they are not willing to do. So they forcefully reject the notion, which actually requires as much faith as the believer, because they also have no proof. In fact, the motion of the universe, stars, and all therein implies a creator put it in motion. (Nothing logically moves itself, or creates itself.) So they are denying the laws of the universe we have all observed over time.

Jason Chastain, Quora 9 Comments [7/10/2018 12:08:19 AM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

Quote# 138714

At the time of this post’s publication, Trump may have already announced his SCOTUS nominee to replace the center-left Kennedy. Here’s to hoping his decision was made with the spirit of this post in mind.

As of this writing, the top 3 contenders (according to Anonymous Sources, who is probably one person who went to every one of the bar mitzvahs for the kids of Carlos Slim Times and Bezos Post employees) are Amy Barrett, Raymond Kethledge, and Brett Kavanaugh.

Kavanaugh is the only responsible choice.

Barrett is Justice Thinking Housewife (h/t MPC).

Barrett will be another Sandra O’Connor, except worse. Sure, she can be relied on to make pro-life (ie pro-brown and black population explosion) decisions, but on everything else the odds are good (and the goods odd) that she’ll be squishy as is the wont of her sex. Barrett’s record is slim, so we only have details from her personal life to create a picture of how she might vote on the National Question.

And boyee, those deets are the stuff of creeps. Barrett is a religious weirdo who has signed up for evangelical universalist cuckery despite herself being Catholic. (At some point, I have to write a post about how Evangelicuck and Cathocuck charities are doing the most practical damage to Heritage America through their work as middlemen resettling Dirt Worlders in red state pleasantvilles.)

Most damning, she adopted two Haitian Kisses while she was pregnant with her own White children.



[Picture of Amy Barrett with her husband and aforementioned adopted children]

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Those are psychocunt eyes. Sorry, I call it as I see it.

If the choice is between an anti-abortion justice and an anti-open borders justice, the latter wins, no contest. What future is fated for us in an America overrun by swarth-hordes whose numbers can’t at least be culled at the margins by the palliative of eugenic abortion? Answer: a DARK and DREARY future.

Here come the pro-life Boomers to scold me. My only response is that some lives really are worth more than others. What good have you done to save Somali babies when your country is flooded with violent, dumb aliens imposing countless miseries on your friends and neighbors? You saved a fetus at the cost of your country. You think that’ll get you through the pearly gates?

Bottom line: you can’t trust women with the judge’s gavel. Trump best stick to nominating a based male WOP or WASP. He’d probably be on safer ground nominating a pitch black conservative like Thomas, who has really developed into a smart and based Justice in the mold of Scalia.

Universal rule of jurisprudence: Women think in feelz. It always ALWAYS comes down to that with women. Feelz > Logic, Feelz > Country. Few exceptions:



[Picture of Ann Coulter]

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Kethledge is a GOPe cuckstablishment stooge. He can be counted on to “grow into” another shitlib David Souter.

The open borders billionaire Cuck Brothers support a Kethledge nomination. That’s all you need to know about him. He’s a sure thing if you want a Justice who will mature into globohomoist leftism, finding precedent for American Rights to apply to all 7 billion people in the world.

t’s no surprise to anyone paying attention that huge cucks like Mitch McConnell and Ross Douthat are pushing Kethledge on Trump. If stool sitters like those two are for one guy, choose the other guy. You’ll never go wrong.

For the truly smart and prudent justices like Gorsuch and the late Scalia, it has to gall when a shit tier president like Gay Mulatto stuffs the court full of dumbfuck wise latinas and sophistic Oyveys. It lowers the value of the smart white males to be associated with these diversity world dregs.

Which is my way of saying, for the good of the country and the legitimacy of the Supreme Court, Trump should nominate hardcore White Christian Men for every one of the five SCOTUS vacancies he will have during his three terms.

MAKE SCOTUS SCROTUS AGAIN

(which in practice means make SCOTUS more White, Gentile, Male, and possessing of a shitlord physiognomy.)

Barrett is a virtue signaling psychocunt who put her signaling to practice and adopted two snickers bars to preen before her neighbors at the expense of her white kids’ emotional health.

Kethledge is controlled opposition who will do the bidding of ZOG.

It will be a yuge letdown if Trump nominates either one of these losers.

NO to Kethledge
NO to Barrett

YES to Kavanaugh

Kavanaugh is /ourguy/.

I really hope Trump is listening and doesn’t cuck this up.

CH, Chateau Heartiste 14 Comments [7/10/2018 12:07:52 AM]
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Quote# 138712


It’s emerged that Nicki Minaj paid $100,000 for her brother’s bail yesterday, after he was charged with the rape of a 12- year old girl.

i don't even like minaj but she's taking a lot of heat for this, unfairly IMO. most of us would do the same for a sibling, even if we knew they were guilty.

sputnik, Gossip Rocks 2 Comments [7/10/2018 12:07:02 AM]
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Quote# 138711

Illuminati/Masonic Dehumanisation of the Masses

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In a world of ignorance, apathy, gross contradiction, cognitive dissonance and denial … what will it take for the masses to wake up? Granted, they have been deceived, but living in zombie-like trances they lack responsibility towards themselves and their fellow humans: It’s therefore no surprise to see them buy into the effronteries and blindly give their consent to the ruling elite’s agendas, not knowing about the underlying hidden, dark and destructive ulterior motives.



A major effect of these agendas is that they are dehumanizing. In light of this, here are 5 indicators to show how the ruling elite’s agendas are covertly dehumanizing the masses on many levels for manipulation, and what needs to be done to prevent the disastrous consequences.

For instance, in a recent article, Google engineering director Ray Kurzweil and here in so many words, claims that a stronger, brighter and sexier human race will emerge before 2045. Enhanced Homo sapiens Mk-2 will have had their brains fused with technology, belong in a technological cybernetic society to become a singularity… -Some of us can’t help thinking that this is something to greatly mistrust.

See Project Moscow 2045 – started by media mogul Itskov: The Devil speaks and rejoices.
Ray Kurzweil is Jewish – and Dmitry Itskov, the author of “Moscow 2045” has a Jewish surname from the Minsk region



Here follow 5 characteristics of the NWO dehumanisation/Making of Zombies.

I: The transhumanism agenda is a deception. Retrospectively, just about everything the ruling elite do only benefits a relative small handful of individuals and transhumanism will be no exception. Through the technology, the rest of the populace will be enslaved in a technological mind control prison…

The more humans who incorporate themselves with cybernetics or anything else making up transhumanism, the more they will lose their powerful connection to spirituality and all those qualities related to unconditional love; kindness, empathy, generosity, big-heartedness, concern… Thus, humans will lose their true power to stop the new world order and may even become extinct.
Transhumanism is greatly flawed. Major tenets of transhumanism are based on false pretexts. For example, it assumes that consciousness is only activity in our brains in its attempt to preserve the brain and achieve immortality…

II: The artificial intelligence (AI) flaw
Following on, while it has made great science fiction, the idea of robots or computers becoming intelligent sentient beings, having the ability to be emotional and creative will never happen in the real world.

The Express 23 June 2016: BRUSSELS bureaucrats are considering transferring human rights to robots if artificial intelligence (AI) becomes so powerful that droids end up thinking for themselves.
the European Parliament to the EU Commission has suggested in the future sentient AI robots could need their own rights and responsibilities, and strict laws banning them from taking over too many jobs across the Continent may become necessary. In the 1950s Asimov predicted robots would eventually have to adhere to laws













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Everything a robot or computer does (or ever will) is only through a series of pre-programmed responses in conjunction with its database, having no free will choice.

And that’s it.

3. The hive mind
Transhumanism and AI threaten to dehumanize us in the respects that it will take away our individuality. Instead of being free to express our natural unique creative and playful individuality, we will be forced to become ‘empty shells,’ as one with the hive mind. When the control-obsessed technocrats try to force their depersonalizing hive mind ideology it will cause many problems and humans are sure to revolt(???).

Just one of many flaws in the technocracy agenda.

5. T.H.E.Y want you to be like them
T.H.E.Y (The Hierarchy Enslaving You) want you to be heartless empty shell psychopaths, driven by self-interests and gratification in their hierarchical controlling pyramidal power structures…

T.H.E.Y want you to be the effect of their owned and controlled mainstream media, as, for instance, through the soul-jarring music blasting out and TV or movies where people are so horrible to each other…

Fake mainstream media news, fake money, fake medicine, fake political democracies, fake wars, etc. – as if that wasn’t enough, T.H.E.Y want you to willingly fit into their archontic fake existence through transhumanism … ultimately leading to your destruction, as secretly planned…

That concludes just 5 of the many indicators showing how the ruling elite’s agendas are dehumanizing the masses.

Anders, NEW.EURO-MED.DK 6 Comments [7/10/2018 12:06:43 AM]
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Quote# 138710

the left won't drop immigration because without steady stream of ethnic minority voters they will be crushed

US is the proof of that. The left managed to win the demographic battle there - if the country hadn't gone from 90% to 65% white since 1965 it would a one party country with Republicans running pretty much every single legislature.

Nickrobi, /r/news 11 Comments [7/10/2018 12:06:36 AM]
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Quote# 138709


I'm afraid not. Genesis 2:24 clearly states God's original intention for marriage as between one man and one woman. The fact that humans did as they pleased does not negate that. Jesus merely restated God's plan for marriage to the Pharisees who had so twisted the institution for their own selfish ends.

There's nothing like "equal" or "unequal" divorce in the Bible. Divorce is divorce, period - and God hates it. God, through Paul, affirms monogamous, heterosexual marriage in the following verses:

1 Timothy 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;

1 Timothy 3:12 Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well.

Titus 1:5-7 For this cause left I thee in Crete, that thou shouldest set in order the things that are wanting, and ordain elders in every city, as I had appointed thee:
If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly.

All these verses set out God's intention for marriage. No mention of polygamy or same sex marriage there.

Ayoola Hamilton-Tikare, Premier 6 Comments [7/10/2018 12:06:24 AM]
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Submitted By: CC

Quote# 138708

DavidS: Ezekiel 16:49-50 - "Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen"
Then in Ezekiel 18:11-13, Ezekiel (talking about Israel) says:
"“He eats at the mountain shrines.
He defiles his neighbor’s wife.
He oppresses the poor and needy.
He commits robbery.
He does not return what he took in pledge.
He looks to the idols.
He does detestable things.
He lends at interest and takes a profit.
Will such a man live? He will not! Because he has done all these detestable things, he is to be put to death; his blood will be on his own head."
Ezekiel calls all these things detestable, including oppressing the poor and needy, he doesn't mention homosexuality at all.

Jim Kirkwood: But the letter of Jude does! Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.!!!!!!!

Jim Kirkwood, Premier 8 Comments [7/9/2018 11:44:38 PM]
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Submitted By: CC

Quote# 138707

This man should make his mind up. Does he want to contend for the Gospel of Jesus Christ or not. He must take a stand against the LGBT Nazi agenda and be seen doing it. We are not, as Christians, called to be invisible and silent. The Bible is clear on the subject of Homosexual behaviour, despite the persistent denials of the homosexuals and their sympathisers on this forum. Scripture has been quoted over and over again and they reject it because they love their sin and have no intention of being born again. Homosexual practice is an abomination to God. End of debate!

Jim Kirkwood, Premier 7 Comments [7/9/2018 11:44:36 PM]
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Quote# 138706

(=Replying to a Gay Christian=)

Jim Kirkwood: Israel is approx the size of Wales. Muslims have millions of square miles of land with all the natural resources and wealth. We all know what the evil religion of Islam really wants, and they will kill and destroy anything that gets in their way to achieving it.

Peter: What a disgusting view. 'Christians' have lots of land too. That's no reason to abolish America.

Jim Kirkwood: You are not in any position to pass judgement on me concerning the meaning of the word "disgusting". The very image you use to represent yourself is disgusting. The Bible calls you and your kind an abomination.

Jim Kirkwood, Premier 6 Comments [7/9/2018 11:44:33 PM]
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Submitted By: CC

Quote# 138705

Columbus helped with the spread of western civilization (a civilization that brought tremendous advancements in math, science, medicine, philosophy, and technology to the world) and the natives were conquering, killing, raping, enslaving, sacrificing, and sometimes eating each other long before any European set foot in the Western Hemisphere and the Europeans ended that. My point is, the natives were violating human rights far longer and to a greater degree than Columbus or any settler. The man may have contributed to ending their way of life, but their way of life was never worth preserving in the first place. Bottom line, the Europeans conquered some violent savages. Big deal we did a better job with this land than what they ever could have. Columbus and colonialism are some of the greatest things that ever happened to the Americas.

Also about MLK: People would be fine with getting rid of MLK day as he really wasn’t that great of a man. The guy was actually a degenerate. Look at some the files on him that were released. As far as the Nobel Peace Prize goes, it doesn’t mean much considering the fact that Obama won the same prize even though he bombed Syrian children and funeral homes, destabilized the Middle East during the Arab Spring, contributed to the Migrant Crisis, and was in war every day of his presidency. As I said earlier, MLK didn’t even end the legal oppression of blacks, that was Lincoln and LBJ. MLK May have helped out but he didn’t end it. Finally, we already have equal rights in the US and not everything can or should be made equal. But I guess I’ll just never understand the Left’s fetish with “equality”.

Synthetic_Saint, /r/DebateAltRight 4 Comments [7/9/2018 11:44:19 PM]
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Quote# 138702

False Views on John Calvin

Misconceptions

Many evangelical churches see John Calvin as a great theologian yet; he is represented as a mean person. Many believe John Calvin is the founder of a new religion called ‘Calvinism’. Calvin never started a new religion called Calvinism, he simply taught the Bible. Then who started Calvinism? C. H. Spurgeon gives the answer below.

"We only use the term "Calvinism" for shortness. That doctrine which is called "Calvinism" did not spring from Calvin; we believe that it sprang from the great founder of all truth. Perhaps Calvin himself derived it mainly from the writings of Augustine. Augustine obtained his views, without doubt, through the Holy Spirit of God, from diligent study of the writings of Paul, and Paul received them from the Holy Ghost and from Jesus Christ, the great founder of the Christian Church. We use the term then, not because we impute an extraordinary importance to Calvin's having taught these doctrines. We would be just as willing to call them by any other name, if we could find one which would be better understood, and which on the whole would be as consistent with the fact." (C.H Spurgeon)

Some believe, Calvin wrote the ‘five points of Calvinism.’ This is also false. Calvin never wrote the 5 points of Calvinism. It was written 54 years after the death. Then the Arminians made their five points first. In November 13, 1618, 39 pastors, 18 ruling elders, 5 professors and 19 delegates were invited to settle this issue at Synod of Dort. It lasted for seven months. What was the result? Arminianism was unanimously rejected and condemned. The five theological points of Calvinism were formulated to answer the five points of Arminianism.
Also some say, John Calvin was against evangelism and Calvinism is a threat for evangelism. This is not true as we are going to see the real John Calvin. The majority of the modern evangelical church is representing John Calvin as a mean, unloving, uncaring dangerous man. But let us see the truth and nothing but the truth of John Calvin, then you will be amazed to see all the bad things what you have heard and what you may hear of John Calvin is not true. This is truly a character assassination of a godly man.

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Calvin the Pastor

Although Calvin was a shy and a reserved person he was very different when he was behind the pulpit. His heart was inflamed for the word of God and became a great preacher, Calvin believed he was never at the pulpit by himself; he speaks of the hidden energy. The power of the Holy Spirit was there with him and the Spirits energy energized him in preaching and in the ministry. He preached 5 different sermons a week in Geneva, Switzerland, during his entire course of his ministry. He preached steadily through book after book of the Bible. On Sunday mornings, the text was from the New Testament, whereas on Sunday afternoons it was often from the Psalms. During the week, the text was always from the Old Testament. He expounded books of the Bible, a passage at a time, day after day. Also, he taught Bible studies on a regular weekly basis. John Calvin did pastoral counseling. He ministered people during the times of trials. He presided over meetings in the church. He conducted weddings and baptisms. John Calvin was a great pastor, many are unaware of this as many think he was only a theologian away from the public, not having any concern for the people but writing theology in a corner. This is wrong, this is not John Calvin. But the true John Calvin got his hands dirty in the lives of people. John Calvin was a great theologian and theology got deep rooted in his heart and it affected his life to become a great pastor and he loved the people.

Outside the pulpit, John Calvin was a loving, kindhearted man. In his correspondence letters, he speaks of his pastoral activities. He had a great pastors’ heart. He wrote a letter to a friend whose wife was dying. But Calvin went to her deathbed every single day and read Psalms to her. Calvin gave encouraging loving words from the Bible. Calvin wrote as pastors we aught to weep those who weep. He had such compassion and sorrow for his neighbors and shared their tears. There was another time where he wrote a letter to a man who went to share the gospel in France (Roman Catholic territory) But this man was arrested by the Roman Catholic church and was sentenced to death. John Calvin knew this man and he wrote to this man of a very encouraging letter, he wished to partaker of his troubles and if worst would happen he would like to be united with him in heaven, he embraced his dear friend. Calvin as a pastor was able to emotionally connect with their pain, he was able to understand their pain, then he was able to point to the true source of consolation who is our Sovereign Lord. This is great pastoral counseling.

John Calvin and Michael Servetus

Michael Servetus was a notorious heretic as he denied the deity of Christ and the Trinity. Servetus was arrested in France but he was able to escape France and made his way to Geneva. One day when Calvin was preaching walks in the notorious heretic Michael Servetus. The authorities immediately arrested him. Many uninformed Christians believe that Calvin put Servetus to death. This is untrue. On the other hand, John Calvin tried to win Servetus to Christ. While Servetus in prison, John Calvin went to his prison cell many times and tried to win him to Christ. But Servetus still denied the deity of Christ and the Trinity. He was condemned to death not by John Calvin but by a Judge, John Calvin was only a witness of his false heresies but not a prosecutor. The day he was put to death Calvin again went to Servetus and shared the gospel but it was in vain.

Sound Doctrine, Sound Doctrine 5 Comments [7/9/2018 11:44:02 PM]
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Quote# 138700

The combination of the left's anti-White policies (e.g., mass non-White immigration and systematic discrimination in academia and in the workplace) and rhetoric (e.g., White privilege) is eventually going to run up against the dormant survival instincts of White people.
White people have shown a willingness to treat non-Whites with civility, but if you go beyond that and try to actively screw over the White race - then Whites will naturally become alienated and radicalized.
And if you combine that alienation with Alt-Right/pro-White rhetoric online providing them with a logical alternative to the left's anti-White agenda, then we'll slowly but surely convert a significant percentage of the White population - especially since there's relatively minor consequences for pro-White speech on an anonymous forum like the internet.
A lot of people - myself included - get black-pilled because it seems like our racial demise is inevitable due to our complete lack of institutional power and the insane amount of brainwashing that the average White person has been subjected to. But if you look at it from a decade-long perspective, then we're obviously slowly but surely moving the Overton window in our direction.
Red-pilling the White masses is therefore a lot like dieting and working out. You don't notice the progress on a day by day basis, but if you compare your progress on a month by month or year by year basis - then you'll more easily recognize the transformation.
I remember what the political landscape and zeitgeist was like back in 2008. It was extremely grim from a pro-White perspective because not even race and IQ statistics were accepted by the fringe right. But now a very sizable percentage of the American population has been red-pilled about race and IQ due in large part to our extremely inexpensive online activism, and the average White person is increasingly realizing that Whites are on the losing end of this equation where everyone but Whites is allowed to engage in identity politics.

So, it's pretty safe to assume that the White masses will be even more red-pilled in 2028 and even more red-pilled than that in 2038. By 2040, we might actually have successfully won over a majority of White Americans. And by then we'll have access to a massive amount of financial resources and political infrastructures.
The next key step in our growth is inspiring the creation of a moderate pro-White movement which is socially palatable and mainstream. And that's when financial resources will become more vital to our political success.

CertifiedRabbi, /r/DebateAltRight 2 Comments [7/9/2018 11:43:45 PM]
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Quote# 138698

A lot of people get misled by demographic statistics. They'll say something like, "My country is still 85%+ White. Therefore White nationalist concerns are completely ludicrous! We're not going to become minorities in our own countries anytime soon, you crazy racist fucktards. Find something else to worry about, like climate change!"
But those statistics are misleading because non-White immigrants tend to concentrate themselves in the major cities of their new host countries. For example, the UK is still about 85% White, and yet White Britons are now minorities in cities like London and Luton, and White Britons are on the verge of becoming minorities in several other British cities. The same thing is true in Canada where the country is about 85% White, but Vancouver and Toronto are on the verge of becoming White minority.
But even that can be misleading because a lot of times governments will actually go out of their way to sprinkle "cultural enrichment" throughout their small rural communities as well. You can be out in the middle of Bumblefuck, Nowhere, and all of the sudden your central government will pay your local Christian organizations to host thousands of Somali "refugees", which will completely change your quiet town.
And we White Americans were in a similar mindset of complacency and denial back in the 1970s and 1980s. We didn't even consider the possibility that we'd become minorities in our own country, and so we stupidly went along with the Jewish conspiracy [1][2][3] to carry out a soft genocide against White Americans through mass non-White immigration and demographic displacement. Now White babies are a minority in America, Whites are minorities in about half of our major cities (with many more cities being on the verge of becoming White minority), and Whites of all ages are on track to comprising less than 25% of the American population by the end of this century. Learn from our complacency and rise up against the race traitors in your society while you still have a chance to stop them, or else you'll suddenly wake up one day and realize that you lost your country

CertifiedRabbi, /r/DebateAltRight 8 Comments [7/9/2018 10:45:57 AM]
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Girls from 4-16 are being indoctrinated by television to become prostitutes. As the documentary points out, the 8-12 year old age group in the U.S have $43,000,000,000 in spending power each year (fashion, toys, movies, shoes, music, Disney, et cetera). Since sex sells, companies target children (both teens and tweens) with sex. It is called “CORPORATE PEDOPHILIA!” Premarital sex is promoted by Disney. People need to go to Prison! Walt Disney's executives ought to be in prison!!! Hollywood executives ought to be in prison! This is a shocking 38 minute YouTube video showing how young girls are taught from the earliest age to become slutty whores. I wouldn't promote this video unless I thought you needed to know about this stuff. OUR CHILDREN ARE UNDER ATTACK BY PEDOPHILES AND MONEY-HUNGRY PERVERTS! Little girls don't play with dolls anymore; but rather . . . PLASTIC PROSTITUTES!!!

America's Sex Sicko Society

The United States has become a cesspool of iniquity. Everywhere we turn all we see is sexual perversion, promiscuity and disobedience against the God of the Bible. There was a day in America when women wore dresses. It was the style of the time, and it was a time of decency. It was rare to see women wearing pants in public 100-years ago. Today, American culture has deteriorated to where women don't wear hardly any clothes anymore. It is wickedness according to the Bible (1st Timothy 2:9).

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 21 Comments [7/9/2018 10:40:18 AM]
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Once it’s gone, what you call “uniformity” is gone forever. And who could call Korea “uniform” except for someone who has contempt for all distinct cultures? Neither the religion, the people, nor the intellectual heritage of Korea is uniform. But it is “Korean, ” and that still means something.

Would you prefer it’s replaced with some “hodgepodge” as Obama recently called the US? Multiculturalism is drab and ugly in practice. I prefer to see different things in different places, and not just geographical features and plants. The idea of a world in which everyone is some indiscriminate shade and character is a nightmare. I have no idea why some people revel in that. Is it hatred, envy or a twisted aesthetic? I can’t tell.

Bill P, Unz 4 Comments [7/9/2018 8:20:13 AM]
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The Earth's gravity is somewhat different to orbital motion...The mass of the Earth has warped space. A heavier mass can warp space more and have more gravity but the principle is the same. That Earthly mass is reaching into another dimension. Though we are quite happy to think we are locked within the motions of the sun the sun is locked into the motions of the Milky Way and that is travelling at the speed of the expanding universe. There are friction points within a star that touches the static dimension beneath that solar mass as its energy swirls and collides within it and everytime such a friction point is exposed an atom is born harnessing that friction point as the higgs field. You see all force is born that way and Jesus Christ, under the authority of his father, told us about it using sinful man as his model.

NicholasMarks, Religion and Ethics 10 Comments [7/9/2018 3:24:06 AM]
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The French were explorers then pioneering settlers that is not an immigrant. The English invaded and beat the French in colonial wars.

The transplanted Siberians were nomads and not immigrants.

Immigration came much later when population was needed to expand the land, this was mostly done with Northern Europeans. They let in the Southerners much later.

Jews pushed the multi culti nonsense like in the US because they feel safer if Whites are demoralised and inundated with non whites.

Our countries were never meant for NON Whites and Jews.

ben vad, YouTube 8 Comments [7/9/2018 3:23:52 AM]
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God never sins, he can’t, he's perfect, though you might think he’s bad or sinning when he’s not because, you’re human, which makes you evil from birth. So you might be deluded to the point that you think you’re worthy to judge God? Wrong it really just reveals how sold out to evil you actually are? You’re probably filled with demons, have you felt a desire to sell your soul lately? As long as you haven’t sold your soul, ask your friends to keep on eye on that bobble head of yours to make sure it doesn’t go off spinning in circles on its own, without your knowing it?

I mean since you asked this obscene question and all it only makes sense that it could happen … right?

Jay Carroll, Quora 11 Comments [7/9/2018 3:23:16 AM]
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Sin is anything outside the will of God. God never does anything outside His will. Therefore, He has no need for forgiveness.

You attempting to ascribe your erroneous view of things does not make God a sinner.

God allows free will. Thus, He allowed Satan to do things to Job. And, Job grew closer to God because Job was a righteous man.

He never coveted the wife of Joseph. It is only a perversion of the story that causes people to put sex into Mary's conception. Reasonable people understand that a virgin birth could not occur if sex had. God caused the formation of Jesus in her womb supernaturally (because God is supernatural).

As th Bible explains, the Sabbath was made for man. It was the Pharisees (also not always a reasonable group) that raised the complete absence of work on the Sabbath. The priests had always worked on the Sabbath. It was also the Pharisees that made Saturday the Sabbath. If you searched God's word (instead of man's ideas), you will find no such mention.

Why is it that sinful man seems to want to judge a holy God? Feeling guilty?

Jim W, Yahoo Answers 8 Comments [7/9/2018 3:22:57 AM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

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petej: The reason I am confused is that several people have referred to the lesbian family member as your daughter (inc me) and you haven’t corrected them.
So my question, that you keep not answering, is if you believe she is gay because of “nurture” then why do you blame her for it and not her parents?

Arthur Miskelly: Aha, the penny has dropped. Why should I correct them? Her relationship to me is immaterial. The fact is I love her, and we have always enjoyed a special platonic relationship. Still do. Who said that I don’t blame her parents (mother) certainly wasn’t me? Shouldn’t jump to conclusions, should we? Or make judgments before we know the facts. There is a lesson to be learned here.

petej: I’m not saying that you should have corrected them. I’m saying that it confused me when they assumed that she was your daughter.
You haven’t blamed her mother. You have continually blamed her. My question is that if you believe that she is gay because of the way she was raised then shouldn’t you be blaming her parents and not her?
I’m not making judgements. Im asking you questions about your opinions. I’ve asked you several times now. You don’t seem to be able to answer.

Arthur Miskelly: No matter what I answer Pete you will twist it to point score. That is not the reason I entered this discussion. I entered it to minister to souls who are headed to hell because of the devil’s lie about homosexuality. Genises to Revelation tells me homosexuality is an abomination. I can’t change that and no amount of argument will change that fact. I long for her conversion, and surprisingly, I long for yours. I do not wish to see anyone in hell’s torment for eternity. The bible says it, I believe it, end of story. I was under no obligation to correct anyone on their wrong assumptions. I pray you will be blessed and have the scales removed from your eyes.

petej: Im not interested in scoring points and if you think that about me then you have woefully misunderstood me. I am very concerned about the amount of damage ill thought through hostility towards gay people is causing families.
If you genuinely believe that her upbringing caused her to be gay then I think the blame is with her parents not her. Likewise if this church believes that parents cause homosexuality then the parents should be excluded, not their children or their grandchildren.
I dont know you and I dont know your lesbian family member. I do think it would be impossible that you telling her she is going to hell because she is gay will not have disrupted your relationship with her. Likewise my heart goes out to those families who have been damaged by this ruling.
I have read the whole bible through many times and I do not see anywhere where it mentions gay people. There are a couple of verses where same sex sex is condemned (and no doubt we would disagree on the interpretation there). I dont think the point of the bible is to condemn people for personal characteristics or things about them they have no power to change. I think it is primarily about salvation for all people. Sin is largely a matter for chosen behaviours. It seems to me that your family member didnt choose to be gay (even by your own account) and yet you condemn her for it. It also seems to me that the bible calls us to love our enemies and love in the bible means putting other people first, even if we disagree with them.
When I asked how your love for this lady was manifest, your answer was that you were praying for her to become straight. I think a great sin of the modern church is that it is now teaching that love is no more than prayers for salvation or "speaking the truth in love". That is simply not what Jesus taught. It is not what the apostles taught either. It is a teaching that is anti Christian and is damaging our society in very obvious ways.

Arthur Miskelly: The word “couple” is a collective noun, therefore singular and should be preceded by the singular pronoun “is” not the plural “are”. Having got the grammar lesson out of the road, I never told her that her sexuality would send her to hell. I told her that she needed to repent of it. The only sin which sends people to hell is the rejection of Christ’s sacrifice. I really would suggest that you read the posts more carefully, or else you may make a fool of yourself.

petej: You’ve repeatedly implied, if not said outright, that all gay people are going to hell. Orientation is not something someone can repent from because she has no more power to become attracted to men than you do to change the colour of your hair. Blaming her for something that isn’t her fault and that she has no power to change is unfair and it is almost certainly damaging her relationship with you and with God. If you tell people that they have to become straight before they can have a relationship with God then, if they believe you, they won’t have a relationship with God if they are unable to make themselves straight. I’d also like to encourage you to be a bit more civil and respectful to me. I haven’t used any insults towards you so it would be good if you could keep yours to a minimum.

Arthur Miskelly: You poor sensitive snowflake You obviously cannot cope with being in error. In more ways than one.

Arthur Miskelly, Premier 8 Comments [7/9/2018 3:20:19 AM]
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