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Quote# 138164

There are a variety of ways to sexually molest kids. Until recently, there were two primary methods. One method was violent and the other was a seductive beguiling both led to physical molestation.
God says in the latter times much knowledge will increase. Now, there is a new third way which has gained formidable acceptance in Europe, Canada, Australia, and the US. It is institutional child molest. Basically, it begins with the sexual molestation (corruption) of the children's mind and emotions. The mind and emotions (the soul) are linked to their physiology via neuro transmitters. Hence, the kids bodies begin to experience physical molestation immediately upon exposure to LGBT indoctrination formats.
Truly, all who approve of the LGBT campaigns are active child molesters even if they never personally speak with a child, because they are engaging in institutional child molest. I believe modern liberals are as monstrous as Nazi death camp workers, abortion workers, child rapists, ISIS, MS-13.
We are seeing the Western World rebel against God, hate everything that is pure and good. How the Western institutions, cultures, and nations more civilized and less demonic than Islam? How are liberals morally superior to ISIS?

Dark days, Christian News Network 6 Comments [6/17/2018 12:44:57 AM]
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Submitted By: Bob J

Quote# 138163

[on someone confessing to being a pedophile]

I think most people choose to focus too much on the child victims in this issue instead of the person whose sexuality forces him to have these thoughts (Personally, I hate children so I have no problems ignoring their side ).


No rumor or inuendo here, though. The OP has stated his problem clearly. Still let your kid stay with him?



Well, I've always believed in second chances. If this guy's been around kids without doing them harm, then I'll take my chances.

Personally, I think American society makes too big of a deal out of sex. Like, monstrously big. To the point where I feel that this shit cannot go on without some kind of violent revolution.

Tie that in to my own personal beliefs that may scare people, and it makes me think that it would be me overreacting if I were to simply hear somebody talk about this and immediately become like one of those overprotective parents that I hate. I do not want to become like those people. If I did not trust Pduol when he's already admitted these feelings, then I would be like those people.

Hell, there are plenty of people I would beat up, kill, or otherwise harm if given the chance. I don't do it because I would go to jail. To me, that's a big motivator for me to stay on the law-abiding side. Just hearing Pduol agonize over his lot in life is enough to convince me that there are plenty of others who feel the same way. The threat of prison is there, don't discount it.

So yes, I would allow him to babysit my 11 year old daughter.



Yogsothoth, The Straight Dope 4 Comments [6/17/2018 12:44:54 AM]
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Quote# 138161

Oh, yeah, around 1965 a bright young fifth grader named Steve Jobs informed his adoptive parents that he was sick of getting bullied by lowbrow nonwhites at his public school and they must move to a better school district. They scraped together every penny they had and bought a house in Cupertino. There Steve Jobs had a classmate name Wozniak, who had an older brother named Steve Wozniak.

What did Wozniak and Jobs ever do for anybody (other than more or less invent the personal computer)?

Is the world better off with more Detroits where girls outscore boys in math or with more Cupertinos where the Wozniaks and Jobs outscore the girls in math?

Steve Sailer, Unz 5 Comments [6/16/2018 1:54:54 PM]
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Quote# 138160

You guys are ducking the HBD angle. HBD says that IQ and athletic ability are largely heritable, with group differences and policy implications. The same can be said for personality traits, and they are almost as important as IQ. Isn’t it possible that Chinese students have personality traits that make them less desirable at Harvard?

The NY Times gives the impression that personality is just a bogus excuse for discriminating against Asian-Americans. But what is the truth? Is it possible that the Harvard admissions folks are accurately judging real and important traits?

Denying the reality of these traits seems just as absurd as denying the reality of IQ. On the other hand, I have no idea whether Harvard can judge these personality traits reasonably.


Roger , Lion of the Blogosphere 7 Comments [6/16/2018 1:54:02 PM]
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Quote# 138158

To be blunt, I regard Jesus mythicism as pure pseudo-historical dogma by a few cranky atheists. For them, the non-existence of Jesus is somewhere between the holy grail of unbelief (i.e. wouldn’t it be good if we could prove Jesus never existed?) and mental masturbation (i.e the sheer selfishly indulgent pleasure of thinking about it). Jesus mythicism is an unscholarly conspiracy theory and its adherents should be treated in the same way we treat climate change deniers: A polite chuckle, sip your martini, then avoid eye-contact, and slowly walk away.

I sit on the board of the Journal for the Study of the Historical Jesus, a board filled with people of all faiths and none, Evangelical Christians, mainline Christians, former Christians, Agnostics, Jews, and Atheists. Now we disagree on A LOT, but we ALL AGREE that Jesus existed. In fact, we had a great discussion on Jesus mythicism at our last board meeting. Larry Hurtado made a great point that Jesus mythicism is like a weird monster that rears its head about every fifty years and needs to be periodically and ritually destroyed. Maybe they’ll do an issue on it one day.

Otherwise, see my older piece: Yes, Jesus existed … but relax, you can still be an atheist if you want to.

Michael F Bird, Patheos 7 Comments [6/16/2018 1:53:40 PM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

Quote# 138151

I was recently walking through a local shopping mall. I heard rhythmatic jungle music. I saw a group of dozens of children and a hundred or so observing parents. The kids were strutting to the music. The little girls were shaking their butts, gyrating to the music. They couldn't have been more than 7 or 8 years old. They were wearing revealing spandex. I walked away in disgust. What is wrong with parents today? The same thing that has always been wrong in a wicked society, people become weak and fleshly. When Christianity flourishes, people at best try to live right in the Lord. But when heathendom flourishes, people descend to the level of animals, doing what feels good, doing my own thing, “Do as thou wilt” as satanist Aleister Crowley (1875-1947) put it.

I've never seen so many effeminate young people as nowadays in the store, and they despise me when they see my “Jesus” hat. Homosexuals hate Christianity!!! They are hardened sinners. They're like Roman Catholics, in the sense that you first have to get them lost, before you can get them saved. Homosexuals have to repent, not in the sense of forsaking homosexuality, but in judging them self as a needy sinner, and that is something very few will ever do. You cannot get saved until you come to Christ, and only admitted ungodly sinners are willing to do that. That is exactly what John 3:20 means, “For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.”

Titus 2:5 plainly states that women are “to be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.” This is the exact opposite of what children are being taught today. Just as with homosexuality, dancing goes against everything which the Word of God teaches. Don't be fooled into thinking that dancing is just innocent fun, there is an immoral mindset that goes with dancing. If you love Jesus Christ and care about what God thinks, then it should matter to you what the Bible teaches. I care, do you?

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 11 Comments [6/16/2018 1:50:45 PM]
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Quote# 138149

Lady Checkmate's headline: "Two new baby "drag queens" cartoons"

(cut and pasted from Christian News Network - link here: https://christiannews.net/2018/06/14/childrens-cartoon-drag-tots-to-feature-baby-drag-queens-voiced-by-cast-of-rupauls-drag-race/)

Kandy Sukariya:
:( Horrible what they are doing to Children. They are trying to confuse children. And trying to destroy families.

Lady Checkmate:
Amen.
What they are doing is clear cut sexualization of children and grooming children for rape. It should not be allowed...period.

hgunwilltravel2:
These sick bastards should be shot. Sorry for my french! I am spitting mad over attacking our children to satisfy their sick lust of the flesh.

Socio:
I don't get it;
Do the mentally ill really not have conscience that tells them it is not ok to subject children to their mental illness, to try and make it seem normal even something to emulate?
Or are they so evil they want to propagate more of their illness?


Lady Checkmate, Disqus - News Network 6 Comments [6/16/2018 1:46:24 PM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 138159

I finally read with great reluctance Mr. Raphael Lataster’s piece published by The Conversation, entitled “Weighing up the evidence for the ‘Historical Jesus’”. My hesitation was justified; the article turned out to be just another attempt to propound the ideological holy grail of fringe atheist groups, namely, that Jesus never existed. Now I am normally a cordial and collegial chap, but to be honest, I have little time or patience to invest in debunking the wild fantasies of “Jesus mythicists”, as they are known.

That is because, to be frank, those of us who work in the academic profession of religion and history simply have a hard time taking them seriously. They are the equivalent of climate change deniers or 9/11 conspiracy theorists. None of them are bonafide academics with tenure at a respected institution in this field, have peer-reviewed publications, and are recognised as experts in their area.

The Jesus mythicists are a group of enthusiastic atheists who through websites and self-published books try to prove the equivalent of a flat earth. I serve on the editorial board for the Journal for the Study of the Historical Jesus, where we have an editorial team of people from all faiths and none, celebrated experts in their fields; and I can tell you that the Jesus mythicist nonsense would never get a foot in the door of a peer-reviewed journal committed to the academic study of the historical Jesus.

Michael F Bird, On Line Opinion 5 Comments [6/16/2018 12:36:18 PM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

Quote# 138154

I was deeply moved by Julie Hinds’ story, recently told on MercatorNet: “Alternative Truths: A wife’s view of a gay coming out”. I am another ex-wife of a homosexual. Our stories have been too slow to come to light.

In the 30 years since Bill left me and embarked on the gay lifestyle, I’ve struggled to recover from the deep wounds left in the wake of his deception.

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A man concerned only with having a wife as a public face is not inclined to treat her as his spiritual and intellectual companion, any more than as a lover. This was my experience.

Billy and I grew up together, started dating after high school and married while still in our teens. We’d been married two years when, during an argument about his non-communication and lack of attention, he broke down and told me he’d been seduced, at age 14, by an older man. “I’ve always been afraid that, if you hadn’t fallen in love with me and married me, that’s where I would have ended up,” he told me. There was not a word about his loving me.

I was young and naïve, I wasn’t close to my parents, and in my community in the 1960s and 70s, nice people just didn’t talk about some things. I was afraid my pastor would contact Bill’s boss if I went to him, so I didn’t get any sort of counseling until Bill eventually left me. In fact, after being physically sick for several days after that revelation, because it was just too much to deal with, I tried, rather too successfully, to put it out of my mind. We had three children (because I refused to take No for an answer, if you want to know), and we were active in our church all that time.

When, after 11-and-a-half years of marriage, Bill announced his intention of leaving me, my immediate reaction was relief. I’d grown to hate him, over the years, for not taking me seriously as a woman, as a human being. Bill has never been able to see that I possessed any real value or interest in my own right. Most of our arguments were over that. I didn’t or couldn’t remember his earlier admission about the seduction, and he always tried to deflect the blame for his lack of attention back on me: I wasn’t a good housekeeper, so he was too uptight to be affectionate or companionable, or some such thing. But I couldn’t leave. Our religious beliefs, as I understood them, prohibited divorce. I was also afraid of being alone. But now he was leaving. I was going to be free, at last.

I didn’t realize until five months after he moved out, and I ran into him and his partner at the grocery store, what had been going on. The electricity between the two men was palpable. I realized, They’re in love with each other! and remembered the disclosure he’d made years before. Oh, thank God! I thought. If I’d been perfect it still wouldn’t have been enough!

But there was also shock and fear. The realization of just what it meant, that Bill was gay, was a terrible blow. I had been, in gay slang, a “beard,” a false front to give him an acceptable public identity. Everything I had thought was true about myself and my world was suddenly proven false. I didn’t know what was real in my world, any more, or who I was in it. I teetered on the brink of a nervous breakdown for several years after that night, and only slowly recovered some sense of normality.

My work during the first few years of being single had me connecting with a variety of mental health professionals in our city. I wanted to understand what had happened to me – and to Bill; I asked them, Is there any literature about the impact of a husband’s homosexuality on his straight wife? No, they said. Thirty years later there still isn’t. This is why our stories are so important – they comfort us in our basic shared experiences, they assure us we are normal.

Maybe, some day, the psychological community will decide we deserve attention, and studies and papers, too. I’m not holding my breath: an industry that has defined its terms based on politics (as happened following the 1973 American Psychological Association convention, which decided to remove homosexuality from the manual of mental disorders) is not likely to give credence to a point of view opposing that position.

Our struggle is made harder than it ought to be by several factors. The lack of available information about what has happened to us is one. Another is the current political climate that lionizes homosexuality and dismisses us. Our gay husbands are so courageous, so heroic for coming out and claiming their truth . . . They are the important ones, they deserve so much respect and esteem just for being gay.

“Don’t you want Bill to be happy? Doesn’t he have that right?” a gay co-worker asked me at one point. His own partner was formerly married with two children.

“What about my right to be happy?” I countered. “He made me promises. Don’t I have a right to see those promises honored?”

“I’ve never thought about that,” he admitted.

Additionally, when we do share our stories on public media, we get attacked. Comment boxes are full of contemptuous responses: “Sour grapes,” are blamed for our dissent from the celebration of gayness. Misogyny is rampant: we can’t be rational creatures with legitimate, carefully-considered opinions; we can only be harridans seeking revenge.

At the same time, and often by the same people, our tragedy is used to promote gay marriage: “This is why we need gay marriage. If these men could have married, then none of these sob stories would have happened.” This is a false conclusion and an obfuscation of the truth.

The desire for a traditional family is a natural one. Marriage is a uniting of complementary opposites, beginning with the fundamental opposites of male and female. Gay “marriage” does not resolve the deeper wounds of same-sex-attraction and its impact on wives and children, but it does insult our unique identity – our inherent value as woman and as wife. It is also an affront to Christian morals and to natural law. For these reasons I do not recommend some of the online resources like the Straight Spouse Network – their support of gay marriage is counterintuitive to self-respect and healing.

Even worse, for many of us, is that the churches where we ought to find refuge and help are places that foster confusion and a false sense of guilt. My own church and pastor at the time of my initial discovery would have been most supportive and helpful had I had the clarity of mind to seek help. I’ve since converted to Catholicism, which recognizes that homosexuality is a grave impediment to a sacramentally valid marriage. But many in the evangelical and fundamentalist communities encounter a legalism founded on poor theology that employs guilt and coercion to wrongly assign responsibility rather than to support hurting spouses.

Some women decide to stay with their gay husbands, and, in my opinion, there are some very good reasons to stay, if that is agreeable to the spouses. I’m not sure it’s healthy, but there are extenuating circumstances which deserve respect. One woman I know has a disabling condition; her husband has chosen to remain married to her so his insurance is still available to help her in her illness, and their relationship is such that she has found that agreeable.

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But we can’t win for losing. Even staying in the marriage, women face criticism. An article in the Huffington Post expresses great empathy for the gay husband’s sufferings in coming to terms with his attractions. But not a word does the article offer regarding the sufferings and the deep loneliness experienced by the woman married to him; in fact, the article tacitly blames wives for adding to the difficulties their husbands face, or for choosing to remain married to them even knowing the truth.

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First of all, it’s not inevitable that the marriage will fall apart. Men who are willing to brave the hard work of reparative therapy – not “praying the gay away,” but a wholistic combination of recognized and respected therapeutic techniques – can find wholeness and a deep happiness in marriage. Of course, men who want to call it “trying” when they merely show up to cohabit at the same address are only fooling themselves. From my experience, Mr. Rymel gives the gay husband far too much credit, and his premise is insulting to us wives.

Moreover, husbands can manipulate us, too. Lying about his homosexuality, or about the nature of his relationships is common. And even when a man is straightforward with his wife, promises to work a program, promises to “be good” can fall apart when a man decides there’s no point any more and vacates the marriage. In such a case, a woman might well be justified to “call foul and take the martyr’s role.”

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Besides, whether she stays or goes, or is left, a wife suffers. When the most intimate of her relationships is warped, when she is found fundamentally undesirable – again, in every dimension of relationship – she is wounded, and those wounds go deep and are hard to recover from. The memory of Bill’s recoil from ordinary gestures of affection lingers with me to the point I have feared resting my hand on my friend’s shoulder or forearm. I’m still deeply humiliated by the memory of his telling someone what a let-down he found our wedding night and the consummation of our marriage: “. . . disappointed . . . don’t know what all the fuss is about.”

But there is healing, and there is peace. It’s not an easy path, and there are too few resources for us. I found Wives’ Healing Journey enormously beneficial, but this is the only program I know of. While our gay husbands have public support, networking, and other venues available to help them transition into the gay community, there is almost nothing for the wives they left in pursuit of self-fulfillment. That must change. And I expect it’s going to have to change with us.

Being the ex-wife of a homosexual does not have to dominate our lives. It does not define who we are. But we must support one another, and our voices deserve to be respected.

Laura Lowder is a freelance writer who lives in the US. Her website is www.survivingtherainbow.com. Presently she is working with another ex-wife to develop a network for the support of other women and families affected by a loved one's homosexuality, transgenderism, and other related issues.

Laura Lowder, MercatorNet 15 Comments [6/16/2018 10:58:37 AM]
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Quote# 138148

For fuck's sake, wake up humanity. Love is not sacred.

Love is not a sacred bond/ cosmic pairing. It's trade exchange. The fluffy romantic disney virtue value of all of it is false. All of it.

Only people who value it are lonely insecure pussies who (are rarities) that are happy to have any person that will take them. And, are people who buy into naiveness while completely unaware that they biologically hold uncontrollable basic functions that draw them near people of value. No matter how circumspect they are of it, they end up falling for their primal urgings. Those who really don't give a shit about leftist/ humanitarian viewpoints just engage in it fully and shrug out "that's life" or "haha I'm better than people and I wanna disadvantage them all" inner narratives for their indulgences that bring about inequality and unfairness. For those not of good lms/ smv.

Men love sex primal, as do women. Men would rather slay women who are hard to get, and have issues in order to make them feel like they're the tamers of the elements... rather than having people who are truly bondable/ spiritually compatible. As do women. They wanna feel they're atop the hierarchy by getting with people with high primal capital, I.E. high LMS.

Hence love has never broadly been about people being loving/ communal throughout humanity. It's about cryptoconquests and cryptocompetitions that the euphemisms/ happy clappy narrative of society was meant to hide. And it works, and leftism/ egalitarianism/ humanitarianism/ Obamaism/ Clintonism/ etc. is all just a politicized/ legalistic extreme extension of this cultural fronting.

Fairy braiding pussy wussy mansy pansy faggots everywhere.

Eugenicist, Sluthate 7 Comments [6/16/2018 9:12:02 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 138146

"Today's Laugh 6-16-18"



Pelosi: "Bill, you and Hillary need to just...go away. Please? You're killing us!"

Voice on phone: "Sounds like somebody didn't take her TDS pill. I had mine. Haven't made a delusional anti-Trump rant all day."

Pelosi: "I did take it. That's why I finally said something coherent!"

Mick Williams, Disqus - Faith & Religion 5 Comments [6/16/2018 9:10:08 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 138145

Lady Checkmate's headline: "PERSECUTION: School District to Remove “Clergy” from List of Trusted Adults"

Parents and clergy in Fairfax County, Virginia are furious about proposed changes to school curriculum that would eliminate clergy from a list of trusted adults.
https://www.toddstarnes.com/show/school-district-to-remove-clergy-from-list-of-trusted-adults/

Mick Williams:
The northern part of the state is highly liberal, and the disease is creeping south. Virginia is saddled with yet another democrat governor.

Lady Checkmate:
They've chosen their sin over God. Sadly, sin is popular and spreading. The south, while far from perfect, at least seemed to have more of a reverence for God, but with the influx of northerners, who brought their idolatry and rebellion with them, you see moral decay and more tolerance of what was once wholly intolerable in certain areas.

Mick Williams:
I see a lot of good Christian folks in the area. The problem, I think, is so many being misled by the fake media. They all parrot the same opinions.

Lady Checkmate:
Thankfully, there are real Christians who remain. I've met one or two "christians" that parrot alt-left, antiChrist rhetoric. I pity them, because they've been manipulated (and some probably were decent people), sadly, now they're just pawns in satan's war against morality. I pray they return to righteousness, obey God rather than men and seek God's favor rather than man's. They will stand before God, by themselves and be judged for their rebellion against Him AND at that time, the last thing on their minds will be the opinion of others who are subject to God and will be judged for their rebellion as well.

Lady Checkmate, Disqus - Faith & Religion 8 Comments [6/16/2018 9:09:55 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 138144


The Holy Bible can be a book of multi-symbolism SweetPea. Who would have thought that a rogue celstial system of planets, headed by the Red Dragon, would threaten our very existence 2000 after it was first told us that it would??

Jesus Christ himself is a being of multi-symbolism. He rose from the dead but who would have thought he was showing us a science whereby we can each be resurrected, dependant upon our level of sin beforehand. It all revolves around an invisible, superabundant, indestructible, dynamic energy...which puts the whole record of God's 'word' into a new perspective...same words, but a different realisation that when we abuse this energy we abuse our genetic health so that by our sins, death came into the world.

The opposite is also true then...that by our individual repentance, as Jesus alone taught us, we restore the inballence of our nervous vigour, add to it, and reap the benefits that Jesus taught us that his followers will reap, both now and, after God's Judgement.

NicholasMarks, Religion and Ethics 6 Comments [6/16/2018 9:09:49 AM]
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Submitted By: NearlySane

Quote# 138143

The Psychology of Atheism - The Suppression of Truth

There will always be people who do not honor God both inside the church and outside the church. Although they may live like their is no God, they certainly don't believe nor act like like their is no God. Christians are just fine with the freedom of religious expression in America. Let there be now mistaking the situation. The real reason the Atheists, Muslims, Homosexual Activists, Socialists, Communists, Wiccans, Pagans, Satanists and Secular Humanists all have a problem with an American's constitutional right of religious expression in public places and feel sooo uncomfortable when they hear the name JESUS spoken respectfully is because they all are following the very same Devil on earth and worship the very same "god of self." That's exactly why they feel like and assume that all the religions are the same, give the violence of muslims a pass, and will be tolerant of all the world religions EXCEPT FOR the genuine expression of a relationship with Jesus Christ and His Gospel, because they have more in common with the rebellion of Satan that drives them toward a devils hell than Jesus Christ the Lord.

The reason God-haters have the habit of expressing such high levels of unreasonableness and hostility against christians as if they are possessed, is because they probably are … and its demonic (exhibiting the will, attitudes, and actions of fallen angels - demons). The reason many are so viscous and antagonistic against Christ and the religious expression of those like Tebow, is because we are witnessing a reenactment of the very same hostility and vitriol Jesus Christ experienced from humans who were completely taken over by such demonic rage that they sought to mock at and crucify him on a roman cross. It's no accident that God-haters have unwittingly become the living host for the these same demonic spirits as they reenact the persecution of Jesus Christ through those whom God calls "the body of Christ" (genuine christians) on the earth . Those who despise the God of the Bible, do so, because He is the only God that actively deals with them about their sin in person and exposes the evil that they do whether people are looking or not. He is the Only God who is Absolute Truth and Holiness personified in the Face of Christ. God love people too much to leave them in the condition they are. People just need to respond. They themselves experience the same convicting power of God regardless of culture or ethnic background. God is drawing all of us to receive Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior.

Even the Bible gives the most validated and reliable account of the human condition along with historical reality, archeological accuracy, and scientific veracity. The One and Only God of the Bible actually confirms his word with a demonstration of power and actively reveals truth to the Human Heart and mind while bring conviction & correction before ones consciously aware of God's will written in scripture confirming His ways in the 3 dimensional world so that nobody has any excuse to deny that they never knew what God expected in the first place.

Atheists are Imaginary … they don't exist.

Watch: Proof Your Soul Exists and It's Destination

http://www.cross.tv/profile/21218

PROFESSOR X, Atheism is Imaginary 7 Comments [6/16/2018 9:09:44 AM]
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Quote# 138142

http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/05/justice/texas-rape-sentence/index.html?hpt=hp_t1



CNN) -- She could have sentenced him to 20 years in prison after he admitted to raping a 14-year-old girl in her high school.

Instead, a Texas judge gave the defendant a 45-day sentence and probation after implying that the victim was promiscuous.

Judge Jeanine Howard told The Dallas Morning News that she based the sentence, in part, on medical records indicating that the girl had had three sexual partners and had given birth.

She told the newspaper that the victim "wasn't the victim she claimed to be" and said the defendant, 20-year-old Sir Young, "is not your typical sex offender."


Ok...flame me if you like...but it doesn't sound like this guy is 100% like the prototypical rapist.

And I really do have to ask...and again flame me all you want...but *if* this girl did lead him on...and did bring him to the brink of the cliff...but then all of a sudden say "no"....how can some of the responsibility not be on her?

I mean really....nobody put a gun to her head and forced her into this whole situation in the first place.

I think the judge is trying to show that the girl has to take responsibility for her actions....one of them being that she made the poor decision to even meet this guy alone somewhere.

Think about that for a minute. They were someplace secluded enough for them to have intercourse....which turned into rape.

I for one don't think, given what I have read so far, that the boy was lying when he said she agreed to meet him for a hook up. Why else would they be in such a place that would allow this kind of thing to happen?

Yes...there are definite instances of rape when the victim is teuly the victim through -zero- fault of their own.

But to knowingly choose to put yourself in a position where it is a possibility of happening....and then claim that you aren't at all responsible in the least for what happened?

Sorry....but that dog don't hunt for me.

And I believe that is what the judge is getting at. In an instance like this, the responsibility should be shared. That there are consequences for actions and choices that we make....and if you don't want to suffer the consequences of poor decision making....then don't make poor decisions.

Just because they are women/girls does not mean that they should get a free pass for poor decision making. Its actually very degrading and flies in the face of all the demands for equality that women have been fighting for over the centuries.

Again...this never would have happened had she not made a poor decision to be in such a place where this guy could have done this.

Just like he never should have made any numher of bad decisions that ultimately led to rape.

There is, in my opinion, blame a plenty to go around in this situation.

TheMeanDM, Dakka Dakka Forums 5 Comments [6/16/2018 9:09:40 AM]
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Quote# 138134

Andeepak Schopry


Wave-particle duality, not discovered by scientists until the 20th century, is when something is sometimes a wave and sometimes a particle. Subatomic particles have wave-particle duality; so does light.

This is the same as God being a "wave" as the Holy Spirit, and also being matter in the form of Jesus. A open-minded appreciation of the wave-particle duality of the Trinity could have opened the eyes of scientists nearly 2000 years sooner to the fundamental wave-particle duality of nature discovered in the 1900s.

[...]

Even today a more open-minded recognition of the truth of the Trinity would help scientists understand the reality of wave-duality.

Andy Schlafly, Conservapedia 5 Comments [6/16/2018 4:02:26 AM]
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Quote# 138133

Set theory is a branch of mathematics dealing with collections of objects, called sets. It revolutionized mathematics and made possible enormous new insights. The approach of set theory also offers a powerful way to think about life, handle anxiety, escape addiction, and understand the miracles in the New Testament.

(Emphasis added.)

Andy Schlafly, Conservapedia 4 Comments [6/16/2018 4:02:18 AM]
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Quote# 138132

Yet because of liberal bias anyone who questions relativity is unlikely to get a high school science teaching job, much less a PhD or college faculty position.

(Emphasis added; see also: Conservapedian relativity.)

Andy Schlafly, Conservapedia 2 Comments [6/16/2018 4:02:11 AM]
Fundie Index: 6

Quote# 138129

Frauds In The Incelosphere

This appear to be a growing problem in the community in general. Most of them still have supporters even after it's made clear they are frauds. Spotting a Fraud in the Incelosphere is a bit easy as most of them will be charismatic and have a sympathetic look about them but they will slowly begin to echo Blue Pill sentiments and normie talking points. When called out, they will defend their treachery and their supporters will doxx you and later claim that you're the reason incels are looked down upon. Frauds will also later leave the community and call themselves survivors of the incel community and paint the community as a toxic environment and many will later cuck themselves by dating or marrying leftover roasties.

Alonecel25, Incelocalypse 0 Comments [6/16/2018 3:27:38 AM]
Fundie Index: 3
Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 138128

So much of your life has been pre determined

Here is a non-exhaustive list of things in your life that you have extremely little/no free will over:

> social status throughout the start of pre school to the end of college

> face

> frame

> dick size

> body fat in early ages

> strength in early ages

> parents

> being good at math/physics/chemistry

Accepting blame for not being in the positive category for any of these is not rational, you can blame yourself and it could actually help you but it's not true

Matt, Incelocalypse 0 Comments [6/16/2018 3:27:14 AM]
Fundie Index: 2
Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 138126

Women should be allowed do work

Without being paid. America is great because once upon a time we had slaves. If we brought back slavery, we could make America great again.

Polycel, Incelocalypse 8 Comments [6/16/2018 2:40:54 AM]
Fundie Index: 7
Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 138125

Do normies even exist anymore?

almost everyone claims to have a mental illness these days. It's fucking infuriating. I'm tired of dealing with these snowflakes. None of them have any real problems, they just want attention. "I got depression bro, smoke weed and cut ur wrists bro." Send them all to the gas chambers tbh. Bring back the stigma ffs. I hate these failures more than any high status normies. They are the reason society is collapsing

fukmylyf, incels.me 4 Comments [6/16/2018 2:40:51 AM]
Fundie Index: 3
Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 138123

I think attaching cel to everything is a bit cucked tbh...

"Oh hey dude I'm a studycel! I'm a truecel! I'm everything-cel!!!"

So fucking cucked. I honestly think most of you are low T.

LebaneseCel, incels.me 10 Comments [6/16/2018 2:40:44 AM]
Fundie Index: 5
Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 138122

If a girl tried to steal my heart, she would get frostbite

This callous epoch of fervent despair
Makes me feel trapped in an endless nightmare
When everyone’s a stranger or an enemy
Love becomes my greatest adversary

I knew I was racing towards becoming a wizard
Nothing left to do but embrace this internal blizzard
Any atom of empathy I ever felt
Ensnared within ice that shall never melt

Twisted , incels.me 8 Comments [6/16/2018 2:40:40 AM]
Fundie Index: 5
Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 138121

He is no tyrant. One believes of their own Freedom of Decision. There is no manipulation by Christ Himself, no matter how humans might have perverted the gospel of Truth.

God doesn't make anyone do anything against their will, neither Satan, nor you, nor me, nor the Muslim man who called me a bigot just today, here on Quora.

Chad Fisher, former Cook in Various Restaurants, Quora 3 Comments [6/16/2018 1:56:02 AM]
Fundie Index: 4
Submitted By: Denizen
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