Quote# 138249

I did magic mushrooms and came to a blackpill: we are even more bound to nature than I thought

So I was at this firends house in a pretty nature-y part of the city and did psychedelics for the first time in my life: around 3 grams of psilocybin mushrooms (a medium dose).

I felt I was part of the nature around me, and even if I was totally conscious of my hatred for nature, I feld that connection and primal oneness with it, kinda like while my brain still hated nature rabidly, my heart loved it.Fucks even the dogs in there were more around me seeking my company. I felt like i wandered around as part of the wildlife there, instead of some cilvilized human. Sounds outside of cars, civilization or people in other areas talking grew hostile fellings in me.

And there is the blackpill. We are so fucking attached to nature NOTHING sort of radical manipulation of the human race will solve anything. We will ALWAYS still crave it. There is NO societal measure, NO self condition NOTHING that won't net us free from its shackles, and specially, our natural needs (validation, company, sex, oneness, belonging).

The uglier you are, the less those needs will be covered while still being absolutely imprisoned by it, no matter how civilized you think you are, no matter how much you hate it, no matter how religious you think you are, no matter how much self conditioning you subjected yourself to.

Zyros, incels.me 8 Comments [6/20/2018 12:00:15 PM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 138248

The thing I get hung up on more is the whole "consent" bs. You summarized my position on it well. The way AOC is implemented is as a safety-net compromise. If kids can have sex with each other and CONSENT to sex with each other, then they can consent to have sex with anyone they want to have sex with. If it really is true that kids CANNOT consent, which is nonsense because they consent all the time, then they all need to be picked up by the cops and hauled off to the D.C. every time they get caught, or DHS needs to come out to their homes and place them in "protective custody" (although they'll just end up getting sexually abused in foster care, but whatever). Lock up the parents for reckless endangerment for not knowing what their kids are doing. And stop freakin' holding kids to different legal standards!! ! If all we want to do is scare the hell out of them before they turn 18, fine. But if you want to start acting like an adult, make adult mistakes, you should suffer adult consequences, even if all you do is give the kids just enough to make them want to stop doing what gets them in trouble.

"Can't consent" is just downright absurd. If they cannot consent, then they never would consent. What we're really saying is they can't give LEGAL consent. But why? Because GROWNUPS made up laws to that effect. So really this just amounts to appeal to law and perhaps even circular reasoning. It's illogical. Or maybe we mean "can't give INFORMED consent." Maybe so, but not always. 12 year olds know more than some of us are willing to admit. They're having sex, they're aware of the risks, and they still like it anyway. Tell a nicotine addict that tobacco smoke can kill him and see just how much that deters him from lighting up.

Come on, I knew what was what by the time I was 12. And I knew girls younger than that who knew what was what a lot more than I did. We'd sneak out behind my grandfather's tool shed and make out until someone called for us. And I've even mentioned someone who lived close to us who had a sexual encounter at 12 years old with a messed-up babysitter. Can't consent...please! Utter nonsense.

Concrete example? Just do a quick google. Here's one:
http://www.hlntv.com/video/2012/10/11/teacher-falsely-accused-having-sex-student
Fortunately, this is an example of a teacher using GOOD judgment and actually NOT going to jail over accusations. But the police did come to her classroom and read her her rights, if I understand correctly, with children present. It's really disrupted her family, endangered her career, and negatively impacted the school and district as a whole.

Here's another, in fact, ACTUALLY INVOLVING a girl who was 12 years old at the time:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/falsely-accused-virginia-teacher-sean-lanigan-attempts-reclaim/story

AngelRho, Wrong Planet 1 Comments [6/20/2018 11:57:49 AM]
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Quote# 138246

Statutory rape exists as a legal reality because children are incapable of consent, regardless of what they think they're capable of.

Not buying it. Sounds too much like a rationalization to me. Children consent to all sorts of things all the time. Depending on what mood the wife and I are in, like if we're both ambivalent towards doing one activity or another, or maybe we just couldn't care any less, we'll call the oldest into the room, present him with two choices, and let him decide. Now, sure, little kids typically choose the second option, so we'll ask twice and reverse the options. If he still makes the same choice, we know it's because it's something he wants and not something he's just going along with.

Or maybe mom is making a quick trip to the store. Who wants to go? Who wants to watch a movie with daddy? And one or both of the bipeds will go along with mommy.

They get choices, and they get the option to consent to some activities. Why? Because they're capable of consenting, and to my recollection we haven't made them choose among options in which there was at least one that could harm them.

I object to child sex for completely different reasons, but I should point out that preteens do explore their sexuality and even engage in sexual intercourse. From what I gather, that is becoming less frequent than it was when I was that age, but things do happen that seem to be out of the reach of the law, like when a 12 year old has sex with a 9 year old. Of course, it could be that I'm an adult and like most adults I'm not a part of that circle anymore and thus unaware of how often it really does go on. However, I know of some former neighbors of ours who had a 12 year old boy lose his virginity to a 16 year old babysitter... Anyway, like it or not, sex is a pleasurable activity for most people and kids younger than 9 can even figure out how to masturbate. So if they know it feels good and have no problems engaging in it, they certainly can give a partner the "go ahead" while they're playing doctor.

The same kid who can consent to that can consent to sex with an adult that he or she likes and/or feels sexually attracted to.

"Cannot consent" is bs. It's a rationale, an assumption and a compromise that legislatures are forced to accept. It's a "line in the sand" because an exact age at which ALL children are able to say "yea" or "nay" doesn't exist. So an AOC of, like 14, 16, or 18 is drawn up to err on the side of safety. It's the kind of language you hear from conservative, evangelical Christians to legislate morality and keep kids sexually pure. If we suspend antiquated Biblical values in our culture and society, we might find and accept that kids are capable of consent at much lower ages than we're willing to admit.

Much of foundational western law is formalized Christian morality straight from the Bible. The "can't consent" argument is a poor one that only really works for kids less than 3 years old. "It causes physical harm" is a better argument. But past a certain age the "physical harm" argument doesn't work because it doesn't physically harm everyone. Same thing with the "psychological harm." It doesn't affect all children equally. So why even put an age on it and enforce the laws? Because it's wrong, Christians already accept that it's wrong, and the AOC is just a way to keep children sexually pure for a longer period of time and provide legal recourse against immoral people willing to violate them. Of COURSE kids can consent. It's the job of parents to make sure that they don't consent and keep them out of situations in which they would. All the rationalizations in the western world can't get around the fact that the non-religious "borrow" their values from Biblical morality. Setting the AOC at 14 or 16 is just a compromise--a pitiful one at that, but better than nothing at all.

AngelRho, Wrong Planet 4 Comments [6/20/2018 11:57:29 AM]
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Quote# 138245

I am a limited political pedophile.

What does this mean?

I am not attracted to female children below the age of 12, but I would still have sex with a modern Western female even younger, even a toddler.

Why?

Because I hate almost all modern Western women and don't care what happens to them. I know they will all become worthless sluts who will fuck the dirtiest men around (actual omegas - http://www.coalpha.org/Misuse-of-terms-l...95159.html) and that they will reject any male who will be interested in a serious relationship, let alone marriage. They might marry a beta when they're 35 or so just so he can feed their disgusting omega spawn but even then they'll fuck dirtbags who will still have them.

I don't care what happens to almost any Western female toddler (excluding women from sane groups in the West, like Amish, Mormons, Mennonites or Orthodox Jews). Would I get hard on 3 year old female toddler were I to get one? I don't know, I honestly haven't been with one before. But even if I could not, I'd still try to lick its vagina or something like that, just for experiment. I suspect it would be easier with some developed girl who is like 11. I have no doubt I'd be attracted to her and would fuck her well.

The point isn't attraction. Were I attracted to below 12 jailbaits I'd be sure I could get it hard even for a 3 year-old, but I can't be sure of that right now for reasons I've mentioned - a) I am not attracted to them now b) I have never been with somebody who is, like, a toddler.
The point is something else completely -as a modern Western female, you have no rights in my eyes. You are lost, broken, tainted, worthless. You will never be anything than a public urinal. You have no capability of being a good wife or a mother.

On the other hand, I'd never act in ways I described with a female from a non-feminist country !

So in that sense I am a political pedophile, in a limited sense (I am not a political pedophile toward non-feminist women).

Any questions?

caamib, Incelocalypse 35 Comments [6/20/2018 11:57:25 AM]
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Submitted By: xavier badoo

Quote# 138244

The problem with this whole debate is that the real point is being missed. The REAL ISSUE is whether the district holds any responsibility for what happened. Passing the blame along to others is the worst way in the world to defend oneself against this kind of thing. It's like saying, "It's not our fault 'cause the devil made him do it." What she did or didn't do is IRRELEVANT as to whether they hold responsibility.

It might, though. If she knowingly acted in such a way to provoke a sexual encounter, perhaps a consensual one, then she wasn't even really raped.It's stupid for a teacher to fall for this crap, but any idiot, I don't care how old you are, can figure out if you have sex with a teacher, you automatically have that teacher by the balls. Heck, you don't even have to know the teacher or even be in the classroom. All you have to do is say "Mr. so-n-so raped me" and that teacher gets an unpaid administrative leave. A negligence defense could very well be what it takes to help prevent abuse of the system.

SHE WAS TWELVE.
No more needs to be said, but you keep on digging anyway:

It doesn't matter how old the person is. Consent means "no rape." Rape as commonly understood means that a sexual advance has been rejected and the attacker refuses to take "no" for an answer. That is what rape is. When you hear "no," you stop. Rape happens when you hear "no" and you do it anyway. A 12 year old who invites rather than rejects a sexual advance is consenting. And no, I don't care what the law says. Laws change. Now, sure, I acknowledge WHY we have laws, and setting AOCs avoid legal ambiguities. [b]We accept that "12 year olds can't consent" to make it easier on ourselves when it comes to pursuing child exploitation in the justice system, but--I'm sorry--laws don't reflect reality. Kids have sex with each other before they're 12 years old. Kids that age even have sex with young adults and don't see anything wrong with it. And they don't call the cops. Unless someone tells them they should, or unless they think they have something to gain from it. They are remarkably intelligent, and I'm not sure you give them enough credit.[/b[

AngelRho, Wrong Planet 6 Comments [6/20/2018 11:57:15 AM]
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Quote# 138237

Pride apparel made in places where being gay is illegal.

What does the #LGTBQ care?

They're too busy pozzing unsuspecting neg-holes this "Pride Month."

Hey poz-holes, taking PrEP is doesn't make you HIV negative again!

#Ghost

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/19/business/gay-pride-merchandise-retailers.html

Ghost, Gab 7 Comments [6/20/2018 8:44:25 AM]
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Quote# 138236

There is enough evidence to prove that I'm right...especially by way of the hydrogen bombs and the nuclear bombs and all the other bombs of the two world wars...If they aren't earthquakes, in diverse places, I don't know what is...diverse here being places where they shouldn't happen.

As far as gravity is concerned, I'm afraid it is an unknown property until we realise the true nature of the universe. Gravity is an imploding force created by mass warping space and space can only be warped if there is a clash of two universal forces...and indeed there are...our dimension is one of those forces and the static dimension, made known to us in the Holy Bible, is the other. They run side by side except the static universe is a relic from before the big-bang whilst ours is travelling at the high speed of the expanding universe...hence all the scientific laws that are made known to us by our modern science becomes null and void when we accept there is a higher science, of which, Jesus Christ, is the only scientist of any worth.

What this all means then is that when someone makes a point which is difficult to understand then it is wise to do some research before shooting from the hip.

NicholasMarks, Religion and Ethics 6 Comments [6/20/2018 8:43:28 AM]
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Submitted By: NearlySane

Quote# 138238

(On vlogger The Amazing Atheist deliberately trying to induce flashbacks in an actual rape victim)

This shows how immoral atheists can be in how they treat women. Atheists treat women as sex objects, while us Christians treat women as fellow humans created through evolution in the image of God, who will be our wives and the mother’s of our children.

Keep in mind that Tj Kirk/The Amazing Atheist is the top atheist YouTuber.

Jacob Harrison, SSTDT comments 98 Comments [6/20/2018 8:31:17 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 138232

Men tricked at weddings by foids

Look at this shit
^^link^^
This makes me so angry to see because these men have been fooled by these femoids into think they are special, to the point where they break down into tears when they see her, but little do they know how many cocks she has taken, and how many times she will cheat on him in wedlock, and the despair she will cause when she takes half his money on divorce because “Tyrone made me feel like a real woman again”

Honestly such fucking RAGEFUEL

TemporaryBritcel , incels.me 16 Comments [6/20/2018 5:26:31 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 138222

I. INTRODUCTION
The Bible clearly teaches that today, there is to be an institutional separation of Church and State. To think otherwise is to believe in a theocratic or sacerdotal form of Government. What the Bible does not teach — and what the secularist would like to say the U.S. Constitution supports — is an influential separation of Church and State. Clearly however such thinking is not supported in the Constitution or the Scriptures.

“Render unto Caesar” represents one of the biblical passages that supports the idea of institutional separation. Let us examine this more closely from a historical perspective.

As primitive Christianity began as recorded in the book of Acts the separation of the Church from the State of Rome clearly existed. It was not until the fourth century A.D., when Constantine co-opted Christianity as the State religion (in his attempt to unify the vast and diverse Roman Empire), that the clearly, previously existing, separation between the two institutions disappeared. Tragically, this lack of separation occurs even during the Post-Reformation period! Luther, Zwingli and Calvin practiced a sacerdotal societal structure, versus a composite one per the clear teaching of the NT (cf., Matthew 20:20-22; Romans 13:1-8; 1Peter 2:13-14). In that much of the reformer’s emphasis on doctrinal correction of heresy related to soteriology (the doctrine of Salvation) no surgical exercise was performed relative to the aberrant earlier wedding of Church and State.

Important to this study is the thought that in the NT era — save the first three centuries of it — a theocratic, sacerdotal system has existed in most countries of the world. Historically, it is not until the American experiment in government, in which our founding fathers in reaction to sacerdotal England (wherein the Church of England and the State of England still remain one in the same), sought a pragmatic solution to separate themselves from a forced religious belief system incumbent on one being born in England.

If biblically speaking, the Church and State are to be separate institutions, does that suggest, as the secularist would postulate, a total disenfranchisement of the Church from the State — i.e. an influential separation as well? Is that the extrapolation Christ would desire from the aforementioned text of Matthew 22:21? No!

As we will see from this study, the Institution of the State is quite dependent on the existence of a strong and healthy Institution of the Church (which it does not control) to build men and women in righteousness for service in government.

WITHOUT A STRONG CHURCH THAT MAKES DISCIPLES, THE STATE SOON GOES WAYWARD DUE TO THE SINFULNESS OF ITS LEADERS.

Since this is such a vital need and concern of the State itself, and the State’s leadership, what more so and specifically does the book of Proverbs state about the absolute need for righteous governmental leaders? Let us turn our attention in pursuit of the answer to that question.

II. UNDERSTANDING THE SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE
Every statesman needs to take a lesson from Proverbs 14:34. Here in this important Proverb is a nationalistic, (versus personal) bestowal of truth. Here is a sound political maxim:

Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people.

Righteousness in the lives of individuals — both in a country’s citizens and leaders — is the superior virtue over all others. It is a nation’s number one national resource! The writer of Proverbs is stating that it is the one ingredient that assures the exaltation of a nation.

It is not the international trade or the gross domestic product, nor is it the presence of natural resources that is most fundamental to the exaltation of a nation. Rather, it is the righteousness of a nation’s individuals that is the greatest resource — and the greatest commodity that a nation needs to manufacture!

The same principles which build individuals in righteousness (as expounded by the Word of God) are the same principles, wherein multiplied by and through individuals, that build a nation. It is when a nation is impregnated with highly principled individuals that it gains well-being.

Given this cut-to-the-chase analysis of our greatest need, the question then quickly becomes one of how righteousness is formed in the lives of individuals. Having said that, therein exists, in terms of serving the Institution of the State, the absolutely critical preeminent duty of the Church in an institutionally separated society: to convert the soul and disciple — Christianize — the leaders of the State and its citizenry.

Conversion is even preeminent to education; without a moral foundation, knowledge makes arrogant (ICorinthians 8:1) and is of little value in terms of nation building. Therefore in our composite country, the State is highly dependent on an Institution it does not control: The Church in regard to its own health and sustainability. Conversely, for the Church to spend her energy in the Capital Community attempting to affect policy with little manifest concern for the souls of the State’s leaders is to practice, biblically speaking, a misinformed and misguided sort of involvement: it is to attempt to do what others — strong in Christ Public Servants — can do much better! It is to be less than efficient. It is to misunderstand the primacy of her God-ordained role in a composite society.

The Church can best influence the State by building and sending righteous Public Servants to serve in government. Keep in mind the State is not in the business of manufacturing righteous individuals. Rather, God has designed it to punish unrighteous individuals (cf. Romans 13:4; 1Peter 2:13-14). [...] States Proverbs 11:10-11 in this regard:

When it goes well with the righteous, the city rejoices, and when the wicked perish, there is joyful shouting. By the blessing of the upright a city is exalted, but by the mouth of the wicked it is torn down.

[...]

As you can see, Proverbs has much to say about the necessity of righteous governmental leaders! Scripture shouts about this matter! The Church must be in the business of manufacturing them via evangelism and discipleship at all levels of their career paths.


Ralph Drollinger, Capitol Ministries 8 Comments [6/20/2018 5:25:28 AM]
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Submitted By: Skyknight

Quote# 138229

The Portals Of Hell Have Been Opened


The Portals of Hell have opened, there will be great darkness and also great light, will it be Rapture or Rupture for us? https://sites.google.com/site/helpfor...
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_cJ...
http://sanctification.podbean.com/
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-sL...
Satan is being vicious toward the true Christians today as the spirit of Antichrist grows stronger on this Earth. All the demons from ages past have gathered to do battle against the true Christians of our Lord Jesus Christ, because we serve our Master our savior, our Lord Jesus.
True Christians should look up to heaven, and not dread this hour at all. Our God's power is much stronger than all the multitudes of demons that are coming against the the true Church of our Lord Jesus Christ in this last hour.
The demons know they can't destroy the true Christians, The Christians with the blood of Jesus will trample the demons underfoot. The demons know the true Christians have been given power over all of them, even over Lucifer himself. All we are required to do is live a Holy life without any willful sinning and we are promised the victory...the battle belongs to our Lord Jesus Christ!!!
Jesus chose Paul for a soul winning mission, and Paul suffered so very much for our Lord Jesus Christ. Much of the time after Paul's conversion he lived in the thick of the battle.
Paul was imprisoned, beaten, persecuted, but what a wonderful message our Lord sent through him to us... the pure Word of the living God!
Our Lord will be able to get the very best soul winning work out of us during our hours of suffering, trials and persecutions during this Christian life. We will cling to the Old Rugged Cross of our Lord Jesus with greater determination, greater strength because we will draw from our Lord Jesus Christ, we will draw on those powers we need from our Jesus, day after day!
Paul is a great example of the Christians of today. (II Corinthians 4:8-10). Persecuted, mistreated, robbed of life just like Jesus was robbed of life, the Early Church went through all of that. The words of our Lord held Paul steady when Paul was under more than he thought he could bear: My grace is sufficient for thee; my grace is sufficient.
Paul's answer was that God's grace was sufficient, that God's strength was made perfect in Paul's weakness. No longer did Paul seek and beg our Lord through his problems. Paul trusted our God completely. We who are going through troubles and trials will not have it easy, but as we trust in our Lord Jesus Christ we will win for all eternity!
We must trust our God completely because our God provides all the power we need so we will not come up lacking in anything.
Paul's attitude in the face of great persecutions was a shining example for all of us as we live our Christian lives. In II Timothy, we read Paul's farewell letter to Timothy, one of his spiritual sons in our Lord: (II Timothy 4:6,7). Paul told Timothy that he had kept the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ. Paul believed God in everything and in all things; Paul never let the enemies of his God rob him of God's promises. Finally Paul's work was done; our Lord had poured out the last message through him; Paul had encouraged the last soul; graduation day had come. A swordsman awaited to send him to his heavenly home.
Some wouldn't have liked that kind of graduation ceremony, but Paul knew it was our Lord's way for him to go, and with all humility, with all love, Paul bowed to the will of our God. Paul used the faith of our God and the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ to seal his testimony with his own blood. The grace of our God was sufficient for Paul just as it will be sufficient for some of us when we come to the end of this life's journey. some of us will be Raptured, but there will be others who will be required to seal their testimony with their own blood!

Joe Walker, Youtube 5 Comments [6/20/2018 3:40:43 AM]
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Quote# 138227

Those are fighting words. The Latin Americans already have citizenship in another country. Most Trump voters do not.

As for this sudden sympathy for families being broken up by courts, geez, I think the democrats should shut up before people start pointing out that they do it to American people all the time. Including totally innocent people who haven’t even been accused of a crime.

Bill P, Unz 15 Comments [6/20/2018 3:40:17 AM]
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Quote# 138226

As of 2009, there was no fully conservative translation of the Bible which satisfies the following ten guidelines:[4]

Framework against Liberal Bias: providing a strong framework that enables a thought-for-thought translation without corruption by liberal bias. For example, the Living Bible translation has liberal evolutionary bias;[5] the widely used NIV translation has a pro-abortion bias.[6]
Not Emasculated: avoiding unisex, "gender inclusive" language, and other feminist distortions; preserve many references to the unborn child (the NIV deletes these)
Not Dumbed Down: not dumbing down the reading level, or diluting the intellectual force and logic of Christianity;[7] the NIV is written at only the 7th grade level[8]
Utilize Terms which better capture original intent: using powerful new conservative terms to capture better the original intent;[9] Defective translations use the word "comrade" three times as often as "volunteer"; similarly, updating words that have a change in meaning, such as "word", "peace", and "miracle".
Combat Harmful Addiction: combating addiction[10] by using modern terms for it, such as "gamble" rather than "cast lots";[11] using modern political terms, such as "register" rather than "enroll" for the census
Accept the Logic of Hell: applying logic with its full force and effect, as in not denying or downplaying the very real existence of Hell or the Devil.
Express Free Market Parables; explaining the numerous economic parables with their full free-market meaning
Exclude Later-Inserted Inauthentic Passages: excluding the interpolated passages that liberals commonly put their own spin on, such as the adulteress story
Credit Open-Mindedness of Disciples: crediting open-mindedness, often found in youngsters like the eyewitnesses Mark and John, the authors of two of the Gospels
Prefer Conciseness over Liberal Wordiness: preferring conciseness to the liberal style of high word-to-substance ratio; avoid compound negatives and unnecessary ambiguities.
Thus, a project began among editors at Conservapedia to translate the Bible in accordance with these principles. The translated Bible can be found here.

Benefits include:

mastery of the Bible, which is priceless
mastery of the English language, which is valuable
thorough understanding of the differences in Bible translations, particularly the historically important King James Version
benefiting from activity that no public school would ever allow; a Conservative Bible could become a text for public school courses
political issues can become a pathway to evangelizing liberals
liberals will oppose this effort, but they will have to read the Bible to criticize this, and that will open their minds
this project has a unifying effect on various Christian denominations, and serves as an important counterweight to liberal efforts to divide conservative candidates based on religion

Andy Schlafly, Conservapedia  14 Comments [6/20/2018 3:40:07 AM]
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Submitted By: Jacob Harrison

Quote# 138224

I had my Damascus Road experience in 1973

I emigrated to the "land of the free" in October 1968. The winters in New York are much colder than in London so I got very sick during the first winter. I went to the hospital and they took X-rays and discovered that I was suffering from a duodenal ulcer.

After 6 months in the U.S. I had to register for the draft, and even though I was not a citizen I could have been drafted and shipped to Vietnam. I already had 4 years experience of military life so I was really ambivalent about the military environment. I told the army recruiter that I had an ulcer, so he classified me as IY, which was a medical exemption. I never considered the ulcer a major disability . . . but the Pentagon thought otherwise.

If I had emigrated at the time of the Civil War, I would have been the first to join general George Armstrong Custer's Brigade.

In April 1973 I began attending a Pentecostal Church in New York. That was when I converted to Christ or had my Damascus Road experience. Unfortunately, I did not learn the correct name of the Messiah until 2010.

I was baptized in water shortly thereafter. In 1974 I got married, and before I knew it I was blessed with 3 beautiful children.

The Pentecostal Church was supposed to be a "Protestant" Church, but the Pentecostal Movement, with their speaking in tongues, has a lot in common with voodoo. They also stubbornly hold to the Jesuit "Left Behind Madness " or rapture doctrine.

I became a U.S. citizen in 1976, which was one of the proudest days of my life.

Living in the British Empire state; and attending a Pentecostal Church, I could make no spiritual progress whatsoever, so in 1982 I packed up and moved to Dallas, Texas, with my wife and 3 children.

Thanks to President Lincoln saving the Union, we didn't have to get passports to move to Texas.

I attended Christ for the Nations Bible Institute in Dallas, Texas, from 1982 to 1984.

The school is ecumenical but I learned all about the suppressed books of Avro Manhattan and ex-priest Charles Chiniquy and his 19th century bestseller entitled Fifty Years in the Church of Rome

With 3 children to support, I did not have much time for extra curricular activities but I did learn all about the Vatican's Trojan Horse ecumenical strategy and the suppressed works of Avro Manhattan and Charles Chiniquy.

When I graduated from the Institute, I went to work for a big electrical contractor in Dallas. Due to the manipulation of the oil prices, the Texas economy collapsed in 1986, so I was forced to return to New York.

One thing I did learn in Texas was how to say howdy and y'all.

Since 1996, I have been working on the Reformation Online and it looks like I am getting to the bottom of the strong conspiracy at last (II Samuel 15:12).

2 things always intrigued me from the beginning: the origin of the New World maps, and who was really behind the conspiracy to assassinate President Lincoln.

My 2 favorite verses from the Book of Isaiah are:

No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of JEHOVAH, and their righteousness is of me, saith JEHOVAH (Isaiah 54:17).

So shall they fear the name of JEHOVAH from the west, and his glory from the rising of the sun. When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of JEHOVAH shall lift up a standard against him (Isaiah 59:19).

Patrick Scrivener , Reformation 3 Comments [6/20/2018 3:39:34 AM]
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Submitted By: Jacob Harrison

Quote# 138223

YOU ARE BLESSED FOR VISITING THE REFORMATION ONLINE—THE MOST TIMELY, TRUTHFUL, AND FEARLESS SITE ON THE INTERNET!!

"Behold I have set before thee an open door
and no Man can shut it" (Apocalypse 3:8).

The handwriting on the wall announced the fall of ancient Babylon and the handwriting on the door announced the fall of modern Babylon.

Patrick Scrivener , Reformation 5 Comments [6/20/2018 3:39:25 AM]
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Submitted By: Jacob Harrison

Quote# 138220

No More Religious Diversity (or Skeptics)

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion, too
John Lennon - "Imagine"

Like John Lennon, skeptics and atheists today would love to see a world free of religion. Surprisingly, their vision is not only inevitable, but, of all people, Jesus is the one who will make it happen. Unfortunately for them, along with religion, atheism and skepticism will also be forced out.

Let's cover that latter statement first, since it's pretty obvious. You've probably heard that Jesus will rule the earth with a "rod of iron" (Ps 2:9; Rev 2:27; 12:5; 19:15). We already saw an example of that above where the nations that do not obey the Torah command to go up to the Festival of Booths will be punished with drought (Zec 14:19). Pretty harsh correction, indeed, but it accomplishes two things. It not only corrects the bad behavior, but it also demonstrates the supernatural power behind the government and its laws.

That type of evidence of God and his power is why I say that in time the "religions" of atheism, agnosticism or skepticism will disappear. There will be no denying the supernatural or God anymore. The supernatural will come and bite you in the rear when you doubt it enough to disobey!

Jeremiah 31:34 (HCSB) — No longer will one teach his neighbor or his brother, saying, ‘Know the LORD,’ for they will all know Me, from the least to the greatest of them...

The Millennium's widely available, clear and complete teaching about God and his ways are going to make doubt about God's existence or his will look ridiculous (in ironically the same way most people view Creationists today). It's this very doubt today that makes room for not only skepticism, but all the false religions of the world.

Yet I wouldn't say that Jesus will outlaw Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, Catholicism, and all the contradictory forms of Protestantism. He won't have to. I don't think anybody will want to follow these invented traditions of mere men anymore when the supernaturally powerful way of God himself is at last so accessible and plainly clear to the whole world.

The few who want to cling to the old religions will be on their own for as long as they can hold out. They will eventually be punished for their rebellion, after some gentle correction first:

Isaiah 30:21 (HCSB) — and whenever you turn to the right or to the left, your ears will hear this command behind you: “This is the way. Walk in it.”

Tim McHyde, Escape All These Things 10 Comments [6/19/2018 2:14:11 PM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

Quote# 138212

Go Bake Cakes - Wormy Snow Flakes! Typical Libera-holeism thinking! They want what they want regardless of any imposition/oppression, because they know better than everyone.

WOW such spoiled children of the devil! Go Bake Cakes - Wormy Snow Flakes! They DONT really care about anyone else being “hurt”!

They are appalled that they couldn’t corrupt another human being by forcing him to abide by their evil lifestyle/will which in turn gives them a notion of less deviation between normal & queer, Good & Evil placating their disgusting free will choice to be gay!

THEY "jew'd" OUR FOOD DUDE!!!, Real Jew News 8 Comments [6/19/2018 1:29:45 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 138211

A shop can turf you out for any reason. It is private property and you are in it at the owner’s pleasure. No reason needs to be given. How that pans out for civil rights is that the owner can then be sued for civil rights violation if it can be proven that it was a civil rights issue and not a personal objection to the customer.

The store owners civil rights are protected as well by law and this extends to being allowed to decline to serve any customer but with the above proviso and which must first be expounded upon and then proven. It is not even a matter of religious liberty.

Some people find homosexuality disgusting without any religious underpinning for their reaction. This is a natural reaction to a perverse and unnatural act. That is why it has been illegal and even punishable by death for most of human history. This current phase of history is not even human.

Ashcan, Real Jew News 6 Comments [6/19/2018 1:29:14 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 138209

(The Broxtowe CSA case was, to quote the blog, one of the first "Satanic Panic" cases in the UK. The Team 4 social workers were the ones who investigated and "found evidence" of Satanic Ritual Abuse - naturally, it was complete tosh.)

This week we’ve been discussing the 1987–89 Broxtowe child abuse case, arguably the first “Satanic panic” case in the UK. (To trace how the 1980s Satanic panic made its way across the Atlantic from its genesis in the USA, we’ve found this article on the SAFF website very useful.) Following up on yesterday’s post about the response of Team 4 to the groundbreaking JET report, today we’re looking into the unredacted bits of the Appendices to the Team 4 report, which contains information which was used by the Team 4 social workers in drafting their response to the JET report.

We owe a very large debt of gratitude to Rebecca Hemsley, who put in an FOI request for the Team 4 response to the JET report in September 2015, and received it in 2016. To our knowledge, ours is the first publication of that report and its Appendix. Looking at the index, and then at what’s actually been left unredacted, it’s hard not to feel just a bit disappointed. For example, it might have been edifying to read “8. [Redacted]’s detailed account of her work, a prepared report and a detailed response to JET Case Conference Minutes”.

Instead, we are left with “Misunderstandings of Mallus Maleficorum (sic)”; an excerpt from a 1980s zine called NOX; and some material outlining just the sort of guidelines which the JET report states that Ray Wyre gave to the foster parents to guide their diary-keeping about the children in their care, and which the Team 4 response emphatically states he did not.

However, even the dregs of the Appendix have a great deal to show about the approach taken by Team 4, as we shall see.

The Malleus Maleficarum (Witch Hammer or Hammer of the Witches), written in about 1486 by two members of the Dominican Order, Johann Sprenger and Heinrich Kraemer, was a theological treatise intended to be used as a handbook for discovering and destroying witches in Europe. It served as a spur for the witch hysteria which gripped Europe for several centuries, and was adopted by Protestant as well as Catholic witch hunters. (Keep in mind that in those days, “witches” were considered to consort with Satan, whereas now we think of “witches” as belonging to the Wiccan tradition.)

But to find the Malleus indexed and turned into a resource for child protection professionals in the late 20th century is…how shall we say? Fucking ludicrous?

Social workers, Hoaxtead Research 0 Comments [6/19/2018 1:24:02 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 138208

(=Regarding the homohpbic backlash of the World Vison fiasco back in 2014=)

Shall we compare and contrast the two articles?

This:

"...those bullies...bullies...latest convulsion of evangelihate...the whole hideous white evangelical army of hate they lead...gleefully reject 90 percent of what Jesus was about...bullying crusade that deliberately takes money away from starving children...the armies of hate...Muslim-hating, gay-hating, crusade of contempt for the poor...the sanctimonious contempt of the white evangelical bullies...the armies of hate are on the march..."

Versus this:

"As Christians, we believe with deepest sincerity that the embrace of homosexual practice, along with other sins, keeps people out of the kingdom of God. And if our society celebrates it, we can’t both be caring and not say anything....it is an oversimplification to say that Christians — or conservative evangelicals — are simply against homosexuality. We are against any sin that restrains people from everlasting joy in God....The issue is sin. That’s what we’re against...."

And this:

"Some would like to see this whole issue of homosexuality divided into two camps: those who celebrate it and those who hate it. Both of these groups exist in our society. There are the growing numbers, under great societal pressure, who praise homosexuality. We might call them the left. And there are people who hate homosexuality, with the most bigoted rationale and apart from any Christian concern. We might call them the right.

The current debate is plagued by this binary lens. Those on the left try to lump everyone who disagrees with them into that right side. If you don’t support, you hate. Meanwhile, those on the right see compromise and spinelessness in anyone who doesn’t get red-faced and militant. If you don’t hate, you support.

But true followers of Christ will walk neither path. We have something to say that no one else is saying, or can say."

And this:

"Distancing ourselves from both the left and the right, we don’t celebrate homosexual practice, we acknowledge God’s clear revealed word that it is sin; and we don’t hate those who embrace homosexuality, we love them enough to not just collapse under the societal pressure. We speak the truth in love into this confusion, saying, simultaneously, “That’s wrong” and “I love you.” We’re not the left; we say, this is wrong. And we’re not the right; we say, you’re loved. We speak good news, with those sweetest, deepest, most glorious words of the cross — the same words that God spoke us — “You’re wrong, and you’re loved.”"

And this:

"You’re wrong and you’re loved — that’s the unique voice of the Christian. That’s what we say, speaking from our own experience, as Tim Keller so well puts it, “we’re far worse than we ever imagined, and far more loved than we could ever dream.”"

And this:

"That’s our message in this debate, when society’s elites despise us, when pop songs vilify us, when no one else has the resources to say anything outside of two extremes, we have this incomparable opportunity to let the gospel shine, to reach out in grace: you’re wrong and you’re loved. We get to say this."

Christopher Thomas, Patheos 8 Comments [6/19/2018 1:21:54 PM]
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Quote# 138205

The blackpill ruined me: I wouldn't feel happy with a gf that I find attractive cuz the looks-disparity would mean I am not worthy of her

Tldr:

I talk to a Tyronelite-lite at the gym. He has this Nordic girl who hangs around him. If you remember, she's the one who hugged everyone except me one time. Anyway, I had one of those bluepilled-coping thoughts again today of me dating her. I dunno why I would have that intrusive thought. I wouldn't dream of coming onto her. I'm too ugly for her and she has so many options.

Anyway, off the back of this thought I thought:

"Back when I was redpilled and knew how much looks mattered, I still hoped I would luck out with a decent-looking chubby gf, esp if I gymcelled. But now that I am more blackpilled, I wouldn't actually feel happy with a gf that I find attractive cuz I am too acutely aware of the looks-disparity that there would be between me and a girl that could loosely be described as attractive. I would be painfully aware that I am the low-SMV half of the relationship. I would not feel worthy of her and it would show, which would speed up our demise. I would be paranoid that she would be cucking me everytime she left my sight. I would be waiting for the phonecall where she said: "I think we need to have a break". I would know that I am on thin ice until the ice breaks. I would be aware that every guy she comes into contact with MOGS me into oblivion."

So even if you were to get a gf, you wouldn't feel relief even then.

It's [hanged pepe smiley].

FACEandLMS, incels.me 7 Comments [6/19/2018 1:18:15 PM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 138202

(I believe she mistyped "far left progressive alt right sites" and meant "far left progressive alt left sites" as that is more consistent with the rest of the post and her beliefs)

When some people refuse to watch Fox, which, according to a Harvard study was 52% negative and 48% positive about Trump, they are getting fed lies and no facts.

So if you watch Fox and read fair sites on line, you are okay watching MSNBC or CNN because you can sort it out; but if you only watch the far left progressive alt right sites or listen to them like NPR, you are not going to be able to figure out the truth.

Therefore, unless one is informed, it really isn't a good idea to watch other channels or read alt left sites or listen to them on radio.

When a conservative is found to be wrong, they will apologize at top of your or on page one. Many alt left sites refuse to straighten out their lies.

They are dividing and destroying America.

Shar

sharaleigh23, Realabortiondebate 10 Comments [6/19/2018 1:14:57 PM]
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Quote# 138107

God's design for marriage is still one man and one woman no matter what people are tempted to do. I suppose you could call this wife swapping which I heard about when I was a younger man but it is still sin no matter what people may feel. Naturally I would assume there could still be jealousy that their wife is with another man even if they agree to an "open marriage". That's the natural response in most cases and the cause of many divorces.

Bowie1, Patheos 6 Comments [6/19/2018 12:33:42 PM]
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Submitted By: Christopher

Quote# 138096

My predictions for the future about society (5-10 years from now)

- America will have its first female president

- the wagegap will be reversed. Men will earn less than women on average.

- prostitution will be illegal in the Western world

- third world countries will get invaded by horny white men looking for wives, leading to 3rd world women becoming just as hypergamous as Western women. (this has probably already happened, but it will get even worse in the future)

- men will need to fill out applications that have to be approved by the government to travel to 3rd world countries

- misogyny will be a punishable crime. There will be severe censorship against anything woman hating.

- open cuckold relationships will be the norm and not the exception

- bachelor tax

Getlooksordie, incels.me 12 Comments [6/19/2018 12:30:33 PM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 138087

BEIJING (Reuters) - A sperm bank in Beijing has set strict criteria for would-be donors, including a requirement that they are loyal to China’s ruling Communist Party.

The state-run Peking University Third Hospital, according to a post on its Wechat account, has been seeking contributions from men with a “good political mindset” and “a love for socialism and the motherland”, who must also be “supportive of the leadership of the Party” and loyal to its work.

The post was edited on Friday, removing references to the Party. But it continued to say men aged 20-45 with “orthodox manners”, “good character” and no political problems or infectious diseases were encouraged to register to donate sperm by May 23.

Donors are entitled to up to 5,500 yuan ($870) in cash for their trouble, the posting said.

Peking University Third Hospital, Reuters 7 Comments [6/19/2018 12:29:51 PM]
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Submitted By: JeanP