Quote# 138302


Actually, Gardner's determination to identify instances of simple numerical accounting among primitive peoples as viable demonstrations of the "universality" of logical-mathematical reasoning constitutes an egregious downgrading of the very meaning of this form of intelligence. This intelligence has been characterized by stages of development from a sensorimotor stage, through pre-operational and concrete operational stages, to a formal operational stage. In the chapter where Gardner's writes that Piaget "painted a brilliant portrait of development in one domain — that of logical-mathematical thought," he forgets that adolescents in traditional cultures (not educated by the West) barely reach and cultivate the final stage of development in Piaget's theory, the stage of formal operations, in which young adolescents exhibit a capacity to figure out the "implications that obtain among a set of relative propositions" (to use Gardner's own words, 19).

No just in primitive cultures, but outside the West, the logical-mathematical intelligence barely exhibited its full potential. Mathematics is essentially a European accomplishment. Gardner says that "it is left to the greatest scientists to pose questions that no one has posed before, and then to arrive at an answer" (149). Does he know that Europeans and North Americans account for 97 percent of scientific accomplishment?

The history of logic, too, is overwhelmingly European. The magisterial eleven-volume work, Handbook of the History of Logic (2004 –2012), which was written from a "global perspective," and contains four chapters in the first two volumes on Indian and Arabic logic, cannot but dedicate all the other chapter and volumes to the West since almost all developments in logic came from this civilization.

Europeans have also been the best in "linguistic intelligence." Most of the examples of great poets, essayists, and novelists Gardner mentions are Western. We all know that humans have an innate capacity for language, but Europeans have developed the literary capabilities of their languages to the highest degree. Take the novel; it is really a European invention. The word “novel” came into use at the end of the 18th century in England as a transliteration of the Italian word “novella.” The roots of the novel can be traced back to i) Spanish picaresque tales (1500s) with their strings of episodic adventures held together by the personality of the central figure; ii) Elizabethan prose fiction and the translation of ancient Greek romances into the vernacular, iii) French heroic romance (mid 17th century) with its huge baroque narratives about thinly veiled contemporaries who always acted nobly and spoke high-flown sentiments. What British novelists added in the 1700s was a more unified and plausible (down-to-earth) plot structure, with sharply individualized and believable characters, and a less aristocratic (or more “middle class”) style of writing. The novel, in these respects, was invented in Europe, particularly after 1750 (Watt 2001). It was “associated from its inception,” in the words of Roy Porter, “with individualism and a certain political liberalism” (2000: 283). England played the leading role in this genre, cultivating a new sensibility for authenticity, personal experience and feeling, a spirit of nonconformity towards rigid and “insincere” conventions, a fascination with the inner depths of the self. Samuel Richardson’s Clarissa was one of such novels, as was Pamela and Sir Charles Grandison by the same author; as well as Sarah Fielding’s The Adventures of David Simple (1744), Henry Brooke’s The Fool of Quality (1765), Daniel Defoe’s Robinson Crusoe (1719) and Moll Flanders (1722), Lawrence Sterne’s Tristram Shandy (1759–67) and A Sentimental Journey (1767).

Same goes for musical intelligence. All humans have this intelligence but it is empirically beyond question that the European world produced most musical styles, the most sophisticated forms of musical notation, and a new polyphonic music where sounds could be seen as a phenomena moving through time, written on a paper using a codified and standardized system of notation for all sounds and rests. Europeans developed into their current forms almost all the known musical instruments. All the greatest classical composers in history are Western.

We are told that "spatial intelligence" refers to an ability to think in terms of physical space, as do architects and navigators. Drawing, jigsaw puzzles, maps, all rely on this intelligence, as well as models, graphics, charts, photographs, drawings, 3-D modeling, multimedia. Again, it so happens to be the case that almost all the greatest navigators, explorers, and geographers in history were European. The invention of modern maps, the cartographic revolution, was strictly European. Europeans are responsible for the development of models, charts, photographs, and the like. Gardner tries to downplay this reality by saying that "the capacity to make one's way around an intricate environment, to engage in complex arts and crafts, and to play sports and games of various types seems to be found everywhere" (p. 200). But most of what he says about spatial reasoning relies on Western instances. His appeals to spatial reasoning outside the West for the sake of pushing the notion that all cultures are equal constitute a downgrading of the very meaning of intelligence.

Bodily-kinesthetic intelligence is about body awareness, using the body effectively and graciously, body language, hands-on-learning, making tools. Again, Europeans cultivated the highest instances of this form of intelligence. Europeans, for starters, are better athletes in most sports. Gardner says that "of all the uses of the body, none has reached greater heights...than the dance" (p. 222). Well, Europeans invented most of the dance forms in history, including the dances which reached the greater heights in difficulty and creativity, ballet and modern. They are also the greatest dancers and the greatest hands-on inventors.

Europeans have exhibited the highest levels of "naturalistic intelligence" in their far higher understanding of nature, their sensitivity towards plants and animals, their unique love for pets and for street animals. The creation of national parks is a Western achievement.

Ricardo Duchesne, Eurocanadian  26 Comments [6/22/2018 12:28:37 AM]
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Quote# 138301

As an Oklahoma Comanche, I consider myself an "Indian"—an American Indian.

I am not a Native American, nor a First Nations, nor an Aboriginal, and least of all an Indigenous person.

I`m simply a descendent of savage hunters with the most lethal war skills and artful horsemanship known in American history.

I could refer to myself as "nerm" or "num," which, if pronounced half-way correctly, indicates I am of the Comanche people. "Numunu" is what we call ourselves in our own language. But who would know what I`m talking about except Comanches?

White people have called all our tribes "Indians" for over four centuries. And even when they referred to us as Sioux, Comanche, Nes Perce, Coeur d`Alene, most of those names were what some European explorer heard one tribe calling some other tribe.

Few of us are called by our own name in our own language. So what? Names of European countries also get changed quite a bit in other languages: Germans, "Deutscher" are called "Tedeschi" in Italian, for instance. Our Indian peoples are distinguished from one another in historical treaties by the use of these foreign names.

The quest for Ideological Correctness—through terms like Native American, First Nations, Aboriginal, or Indigenous—is ill-fated if not ludicrous. Why swap one European name for another? Why exchange a classy, descriptive French name, such as Coeur d`Alene ("heart of the awl"—indicating able hagglers) for an English derivative of a Latin abstraction like "aboriginal," a vague chronological distinction, or a Spanish derivative like "indigenous," originally meaning poor and naked?

"Indian" is the oldest, most sensible term. When Columbus used the term "Indios" when he wrote to Queen Isabella in 1492 it was because he thought he`d arrived on the western shores of India. What else would he call the people he encountered in the world new to him?

Columbus used no such phrase as "una gente en Dios," as modern revisionists like to say. These contortionists propagate this myth to suggest that we are spiritually superior beings, so impressive that Columbus called us "a people in God." But what he called us was "naked as when their mothers bore them."

That term "Native American," like so many things, appeared for the first time in the 1960s, as part of the legal definition of who is considered an American Indian. It involved land squabbles, of course, and the stakes have always been high. When other groups wanted in on the definition through the term "Native American," many "American Indians" objected strongly, to the agreement of some responsible scholars.

In general, however, academic trends list with the social winds. Name-changing, as other university fads, is generally the work of Marxist racial agitators, ever anxious to overturn "the establishment" as a means of clutching at power. Changing the names of things, usurping their meaning, or removing names entirely, are favorite tactics of these leftists. Thus "Negro" became "Colored," then "Black," then "Afro-American" and now "African American."

But then American states, counties, rivers, schools and teams weren`t generally named after Negroes, so that particular name game had its limits. Indian names are the next target. And that name game is just beginning.

But count me out. Don`t call me Native. Call me Savage, Redskin, Injun, Comanche, Red Devil. Don`t worry about being sued. You can`t victimize me with names. I`m not black, I`m red.

"Indian" is what Americans have always called us, and it is the White Anglo-Saxon Protestant with whom we have had mostly to do. The victory was his, not the Negro`s, the Hispanic`s, the Communist`s, or the Arab Muslim`s. Why should I care what they call me?

By the way, I am thinking of suing a certain Michael Weiner—for renaming himself with my honorable, sacred name, Savage!

David Yeagley, VDARE 14 Comments [6/22/2018 12:28:15 AM]
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Quote# 138300

America today is making the same mistake we Indians made nearly four centuries ago. America is letting in too many foreigners. And we Indians could end up losing this country all over again. It may come as a surprise to many white people who have been brainwashed by the media to see Indians as the ultimate liberals, but there are few groups in America today who take a dimmer view of mass immigration than the American Indian.

According to ProjectUSA.org, the U.S. population will double within the lifetimes of our children, as a direct result of the massive, uncontrolled influx of foreigners who began flooding our land after passage of the 1965 Immigration Act.

All Americans will suffer. But Indians will suffer most of all.

I`m not talking about competition for jobs, land, housing, energy, water and other finite resources—though these are all important. I`m talking about something deeper. The demographic destruction of Anglo-America will bring the final catastrophe on our people.

What catastrophe? The catastrophe of waking up one day and realizing that white people no longer control this country.

Now why should an Indian care about that? After all, white people are supposedly our enemies.

Well, yes, they were. But, as warriors, we found them to be worthy and formidable adversaries. Defeat is bitter. But when you respect your conqueror, it is a lot easier to swallow.

If Anglo-America turns this land over to blacks, Mexicans, Asians, Middle Easterners and other foreign peoples, for the Indian, it will be like losing this country for the second time. We have had generations to reconcile ourselves to white America. But we do not know these new people who are coming. We fought no battles with them, made no treaties with them, and have no reason to accord them any special respect.

If things keep going the way they are, we Indians could find ourselves bowing down to foreign peoples who never defeated our forefathers in battle—and who certainly never could!

We Indians—especially the more warlike tribes such as my people the Comanches—recognize a kindred spirit in the White Anglo-Saxon Protestant. He is like us in more ways than he knows.

The Comanches were one of the most intolerant of all Indian peoples. We had no use for anyone else, white, Mexican or Indian. When we came thundering down on the southwest plains, we took the land we wanted and ran everyone else off. We created the life we wanted, at the expense of other people.

The white man did the same. Only he did it on a grander scale.

In the old days, Comanches were known to honor strength in other people. Comanche warriors even adopted white captive boys, if they happened to show courage and fight.

In many ways, Indians see the white man as a kind of adopted son—naïve, reckless and destructive, at times—but nevertheless cut from the same warrior cloth as we were.

We do not see blacks, Mexicans, Asians, Arabs and others in this light. These peoples may have their own virtues and traditions, but they have no history with us. They are strangers.

If they want to rule us, they must conquer us the way the white man did—on the battlefield, by force of arms. That is the only honorable way for a warrior.

The white man seems to have lost his spirit, and we Indians see it. We see that he is giving this country away to others. And this fills our hearts with fear. For we are part of the land he is giving away. He is turning us over to strangers the way medieval barons turned over their serfs when they sold their land.

But we are not serfs. We are warriors. And we will not be ruled by people who have never fought us.

The white man must regain his warrior soul and take back his land.

In that fight, I will stand by his side and offer whatever strength I have to ensure his victory. Ha tu vi chat! *

David Yeagley, VDARE 4 Comments [6/22/2018 12:28:11 AM]
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Quote# 138299

Violence in Charlottesville, Va., on Aug. 12 led Colorado Springs officials and residents to take a closer look at VDARE, an immigration advocacy group with ties to the rally's white nationalist organizer that had booked a conference at Cheyenne Mountain Resort.

Under pressure from threatened boycotts, online criticism and Mayor John Suthers, the resort last week announced it had canceled the planned gathering next April.

Despite the cancellation, VDARE is standing behind its controversial contributor, Jason Kessler, the blogger who organized the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville that resulted in the death of a counterprotester who was killed when a reported neo-Nazi allegedly rammed his car into a crowd.

"If it hadn't been Charlottesville, they would find some other excuse," VDARE leader Peter Brimelow told Colorado Politics in an e-mail exchange Thursday.

Brimelow, who is the editor of VDARE.com, told Colorado Politics last week his organization was not involved at Charlottesville "in any way."

"We have a totalitarian left in this country," Brimelow said. "They would shut down the president if they could, so they might try to shut us down next April, but they might also find something more interesting to do."

Two days later, Cheyenne Mountain shut them down.

The tony resort said it canceled the conference but wouldn't say why, only, "We remain committed to respecting the privacy of guests at the resort."

In an e-mail exchange with Colorado Politics Thursday, Brimelow answered some questions:

How would you characterize the way VDARE has been pulled into the Charlottesville situation?

"Typical lying communist propaganda, connived at by the Establishment Left."

Any regrets about working with Jason Kessler?

"No. What Kessler wrote for us is justified on its own merits (although obviously far too edgy for your paper. That's why we have an audience). I'm not going (to) wimp out like the (Daily) CALLER.

"Kessler's not the problem. This purge has been coming for a long time - e.g. we all lost Google Adsense in the spring and the $PLC has been campaigning against us re PayPal for years. It's obviously co-ordinated like the Trayvon Martin scam - there's probably some listserve group somewhere like Journolist, If it hadn't been Charlottesville, they would find some other excuse.

"The amazing thing is that the GOP Establishment, Conservatism Inc. get mau-maued every time. Except the God-Emperor (President Donald Trump), bless him."

Are there any "next steps" in Colorado? Another location maybe? Court?

"Various possibilities have come out of the woodwork, including lawyers. We'll book somewhere else but don't know where or when yet (although CO in 2018 spring may still be possible)."

Peter Brimelow, The Gazette 2 Comments [6/22/2018 12:27:52 AM]
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Quote# 138297

Your question is beautiful in its simplicity and in its profoundness. Let's change your question, for a moment, to "What, if anything, in the Bible can we believe as true?" Well, if we are to decide which passages in the Bible are true we must first have some sort of benchmark by which we can measure them.

We should not accept or deny any passage simply because it seems to us to be too incredulous or too desirable. (i.e. deny the 7 day creation or accept Jesus resurrection) That is not a benchmark. That is simply an emotion. We need a good source of credibility. So consider this: Is God, Himself, a good source of credibility? If God stood before you and gave you an answer would you believe it? My answer to that is "Yes."

Countless times in the Old Testament specific people relay to us what God has told them. But I assume that, for many readers today, these individuals lack credibility because there are no corroborating witnesses to verify that God actually said these things to them. So maybe we cannot trust the Old Testament to be true. Please read on.

The New Testament features God speaking to people in a very different form than in the Old Testament ... PERSONALLY, FACE TO FACE, as the man Jesus. God took the form of a human being to address man in a very direct manner. Why should we believe that this happened?

Because it was reported, not by one individual, as in the Old Testament, but by many, we can give the existence of Jesus credibility. The gospels of John, Mark, Mathew and Luke are independent verifications of Jesus' time on this Earth; as well as are the 13 books written by Paul. But why should we believe these guys? We should believe them because of how much they suffered for sticking to their stories.

You see, the Apostles all followed Jesus with fervor while things were going well. But, when Jesus was arrested, they all fled in fear of persecution. They abandoned Him. Even refusing to know Him when confronted. Not one of them attended His crucifixion or even his funeral. But 40 days later they were ALL back out in the public preaching His message. For the rest of their lives they continued preaching, against the threat of death by the Roman government. Each one of these men underwent excruciating torture and death rather than retract their testimony that Jesus rose from the dead or rather than stop preaching his message. To me, that is proof that Jesus did, in fact, raise from death and appear, as indicated, to over 500 people. If Jesus can do that He should be given some credibility in what He says. And, here is the kicker ... HE SAID THAT HE IS GOD.

So we have multiple credible eye witnesses, that all died rather than retract their statements, verifying that He raised from the dead. We have Him establishing to us that He is God. So I think we can believe anything He says. And most of what He says is verified by multiple reports from multiple men. But what about everything else in the Bible?

Well, let's look at the rest of the New Testament. Jesus told the 11 apostles (Judas was no longer with them) that He would put the Holy Spirit in them to guide them in their teachings. For me, that verifies the rest of the New Testament. What about the Old Testament?

Multiple times Jesus referred to Old Testament passages, verifying their truthfulness. I believe that this means all of the Old Testament is true.

So that is the LOGIC that I use to support my belief that every word in the original Bible manuscripts is true and infallible. But consider in the book of John, chapter 20 verse 29, when Jesus, after raising from the dead, stood before His apostle Thomas. Thomas couldn't believe that it was Him until Thomas put his finger into Jesus' wounds. Consider what Jesus then said to Thomas: "Is it because you have seen me that you have believed? How blessed are those who have never seen me and yet have believed!"

So I caution you to rely too heavily on logic and proof. Just search the word "faith" in an online Bible and see how much Jesus emphasizes the importance of faith over proof.

God Bless You.

Brian LeCrone, Quora 10 Comments [6/22/2018 12:27:05 AM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

Quote# 138290

[On Melania Trump's "I Really Don't Care, Do U?" jacket]

Beautiful on the inside as well as the outside, Melania wore this jacket on her way to visit border babbies. She was obviously sending a message to phonyfuck virtue signaling self-righteous sanctimonious shitlibs screeching hysterically about a twenty year old border apprehension policy that temporarily separates children from parents until the parents’ fake asylum claims have been reviewed…AND FOUND WANTING.

For this epic troll, the MOAB of trolls, I award Melania the coveted Shiv of the Week.

*hands golden shiv to melania*

*melania lightly grips it in a delicate feminine hand, running the pointer finger of her other hand along the edge of the blade, the sparkles of the shiv matched in luminescence by her hot rod red fingernail polish*

“do you think i didn’t pick up a thing or two watching my husband deal with scum in rat-infested new york?” she purrs.

Melania is the only First Lady about whom I’ve wondered what she’s like in bed. Sensuous, I bet.

Between Corey Lewandowski’s WOMP WOMP and Melania’s triggerjacket, it almost feels like we’ve turned a corner in the battle between the degenerate freak mafia and the MAGAmen, and we shitlords are now on offense, beating the freaks back to their hug boxes.

...

FYI it’s very easy to push the already mentally ill over the edge. A WOMP WOMP here, a jacket there, and a ‘umble blog outpost of realtalk dedicated to opening hearts and minds playing the background score, and mass shitlib suicides are not far off.

...

White shitlibs aren’t as SMRT as they like to imagine themselves. Their abstraction-weighted intelligence leaves them vulnerable to the reality-grounded concrete intelligence of the Chad. Cucks are beginning to learn this lesson: be more like Trump and less like an insecure lackey trying to win the admiration of your enemies.

CH, Chateau Heartiste 11 Comments [6/22/2018 12:19:18 AM]
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Quote# 138287

It’s not accepted within scholarship. If you had actually read up on this you would actually be well aware of this issue with your claims.
And in terms of evolution, no matter what your priest tells you. Evolution has never been observed.

Mark Jones, Premier 9 Comments [6/22/2018 12:18:19 AM]
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Quote# 138279

(=Note: This applies to Exodus, as well as Mochael Bussee's family, but Frank Worthen is the only named fundie with specific words attributed to him in this article. He's also the "father" of ex gay ministries and passed away in 2017=)

When Michael Bussee and other Exodus International co-founders and early members admitted that Exodus’ reorientation counselors had failed to change their sexual orientation, one might expect Exodus to have compassionately asked what it had done wrong, help counselees find competent therapists, and take responsible action to ensure that any future counseling actually worked.

And considering that Exodus boasts that it supports families and friends, one might expect that Exodus helped Bussee’s parents, siblings, and wife adapt.

That’s not what happened.

Bussee’s siblings kept their kids away from him and deprived his mother of a family Thanksgiving dinner. His mother felt worse than when his father died, and said she wanted to drive her car off a cliff. Bussee’s sister said she would pray that God makes him miserable for the rest of his life — just as Exodus president Alan Chambers and Focus on the Family activist Mike Haley do today. Bussee’s wife and her church sought to prevent him from having any custody.

Exodus exiled Bussee, and continues to exile whistleblowers and to threaten counselees with ostracism and prayers for damnation.

How Exodus treated Bussee then, it continues to treat people today:

"In terms of Exodus’ response, I got this very loving letter from Frank Worthen of Love In Action telling me that I was cursed, I was an anathema, that I had forfeited my salvation and he ended the letter with very graphic descriptions of the flames of hell that awaited me and he said that his heart was going to be grieved to see me pushed into the fiery pit by the angels on the final day. He’ never apologized for that."

A small group of fellow Exodus ministry leaders came to my house and sort of begged me to turn back. And I told them that there was no turning back, that I had never changed, that I was never really ex-gay and I was just accepting the truth about myself. But they made that one attempt, I think they felt biblically obligated to plead with me one last time but then after that nothing.

So when [my partner] Gary and I left we were pretty much abandoned."

Support is slowly building from LGBT groups and affirming therapists for people who are abandoned by Exodus — but no one tells them that.

"I didn’t get a warm welcome from the gay community because I didn’t know there was a gay community to become a part of so it was a very isolating kind of experience. I’ve talked to people who are considering, even now after 30 years of marriage, after presenting themselves as ex-gay that are considering coming out and leaving Exodus, but they’re terrified of that abandonment they know they’re going to experience. And they’re terrified of the rejection by family and friends and it’ a real fear."

Frank Worthen, Truth Wins Out 2 Comments [6/21/2018 1:48:50 PM]
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Quote# 138276

What do you think of using Gandhian tactics? Like saying, "I'm going on a hunger strike until I'm given jailbait pussy" and then doing a new YouTube video every day about the progress of the hunger strike, until dying of hunger?

I've gone on many hunger strikes. Sometimes they work, sometimes they don't.

Nathan "Leucosticte" Larson, Incelocalypse 11 Comments [6/21/2018 1:46:34 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 138274

God pity the shameful David Gates song “IT'S SAD TO BELONG” which contains the adulterous lyrics, “Yes, it's sad to belong to someone else when the right one comes along.” Today's internet dating websites advertise on television, enticing people to open an account and find out who's interested in you (maybe a rich doctor? or maybe a trophy wife?). No wonder our nation is so adulterous! David Gates is a wonderful singer, composer and musician. Yet, the music of Gates' super popular 1970's band BREAD and David Gates' solo albums are worldly. Many people are familiar with the blockbuster song, “IF,” both written and sang by Gates. Gates hit song “IT'S SAD TO BELONG” caused MUCH divorce around the nation.

Gates is still performing concerts and in response to public criticism from Christians about his song, he jokingly tells audiences today to make sure you marry your second spouse first. Sadly, there is much truth to what he is saying. Most people select their automobiles more carefully than they do a wife or husband. I think most people who experience marriage difficulties wonder at times if they should have married someone else, but such thinking is sinful if dwelt upon, because it will eventually lead to adultery and divorce. America has deteriorated spiritually into a decadent culture of wickedness. Abortion just didn't happen. Only after the 1950's Playboy philosophy targeting men and the 1960's feminist indoctrination targeting women did sexual immorality become prevalent in the United States. Rock 'N' Roll music was the catalyst, promoting a selfish religion of immoral sex, substance abuse and rebellion. Even the west coast's BEACH BOYS admitted to trying to make “WITCHCRAFT MUSIC.”

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 6 Comments [6/21/2018 1:46:22 PM]
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Quote# 138272

Today's Laugh 6-20-18:



(Podium labelled "GASBAG Chamber of Commerce)

Hillary Clinton (presumably): "Those poor undocumented migrant kids. Nazi this. Nazi that. Blah blah."

Aside, to child labelled "America's Poor": "Get away, kid. You don't suit my politics."

Mick Williams, Disqus - Faith & Religion 12 Comments [6/21/2018 1:46:14 PM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 138273

AVES Adventures: I’m a Christian and I hate when people say “that’s not what God intended” I believe God loves everyone and trying to limit his love is awful. That’s not only turning away people from the lgbtq+ community but that’s not excepting ur brothers and sisters. I love everyone and believe that the “Christians” who say that are filled with so much hate. People apart of the lgbtq+ community are strong people that I respect bc they have to deal with so much hate daily. Happy pride month everyone!???????

BleuKitsune: Yes God loves every sinner on this Earth. The liars, thieves, prostitutes, murderers etc. That doesn't mean he's going to look the other way when you go against his will just because he loves you.?

Park Jihoon's Lost Abs and the lost AgustD: Yes He loves them but I feel sorry because they can't enter the kingdom of heaven if they don't change , well only god can change a person.

BleuKitsune and Park Jihoon's Lost Abs and the lost AgustD, Youtube 6 Comments [6/21/2018 9:33:25 AM]
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Quote# 138266

A brief synopsis of the Blackpill for the new guys

The older members will obviously notice the level of bluepilled and cuck posts from the newest members (May onwards) is much higher. It's to a point now where it's obvious some people are whitenights, some are MGTOWs, some are normies doing it for LOLs, and some are quite obviously trolls and outright cucks trying to convert people away from the blackpill.

But for new people who actually want to understand the blackpill it's critical that you know the conclusion of the blackpill: "IT'S OVER"

'It's over', means that no matter what you think, it's over. Therefore, one cannot be blackpilled and hold on to gradiose notions of male rights or male equality. If it's over, then concepts like male rights and equality are utterly illogical.

The blackpill means that your looks determine upwards of 90% (maybe I'm cucked for thinking it's that low; strict adherence to the blackpill would put it at 100%) of your success in sexual interaction with females. So, if you don't have the minimum standard of looks (not entirely sure what X/10 the cutoff is; debate still rages) then you literally get no sexual interactions. ZERO!

A vital part of a man's identity is defined by his sexual interactions with women. So, when he consistently gets ZERO sexual interactions there is a point at which something dies inside that man. He basically accepts that it's over. At this point, his looks now limit his entire being, because, not only have they precluded him from meaningful sexual relations, the lack of said relations has caused a critical retardation in his development as a man in general.

How can a man be confident when he never gets sex no matter what he has tried due to his looks? How can he be happy? How can he be optimistic about the future? How can he be positive about society? How can he have love for others when noone loves him? And as the time goes by, how can he even exist without every minute of his existence being an experience of limitless pain and despair? So you see, the lack of sex is simply the catalyst for a series of much deeper circles of hell that the incel slowly progresses through. Until slowly piece by piece his entire heart has turned black and any capacity for positive emotion has been removed.

At this point, it truly is over for that individual. So, you see it it utterly pointless to talk of the multitude of injustices that men face. The true blackpilled incel has moved way beyond the ability to care about such trivialities. His daily struggle is now simply to decide between coping or roping whilst hoping that the system totally collapses. The system that has never shown him any love, never given him a reason to feel positive. If anything, the truly blackpilled embrace the continual injustices committed against men because each injustice takes the system closer to collapse. And a total collapse is the only possible way to convert "IT'S OVER" to "IT'S NOT OVER YET".

platypus, incels.me 4 Comments [6/21/2018 6:22:27 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 138264

I was born in Papal Ireland on December 22, 1948. That was during the sinister rule of British spy Eamon de Valera.
Because I was born so close to December 25— the Latin Church date for Christmas—my parents gave me the Papal Irish name NOEL which is a very common boy's name in Ireland.
I was determined to change the name when I finished the Reformation Online and it looks like I am getting to the bottom of the strong conspiracy. (II Samuel 15:12).
Instead, I am adopting the pen name Patrick Scrivener for all my writings.

Patrick Scrivener is the pen name or nom de plume of Noel Kilkenny, originally from County Galway, Ireland.
I was born in the British Empire "Republic" of Éire in 1948, but I was born again in the United States of Israel in 1973.

I am smiling because I expect that the British and the Papal monarhies will soon be gone with the wind

All over clerical Ireland, dozens of "schools" existed called reformatories, run by the Latin Church clergy called "Christian Brothers." These Jesuit run "schools" required a steady supply of young inmates, so Papal judges cooperated very closely with the Irish Department of Education to ensure a steady supply of young victims to the Gulags.

In 1960, I was sentenced to 4 years in the reformatory or Gulag. The Gulag was run like a military academy, with iron discipline, and barracks for bedrooms. School was compulsory in Papal Ireland only up to the age of 14.
Instead of learning a useful second language like French or Spanish, we were forced to learn a useless dead language called Irish Gaelic. The language was not that difficult to learn because it used the letters of the English alphabet!!


The Gulag was run by "Christian Brothers" founded by a Jesuit named Edmund Ignatius Rice in 1820.
Rice was just one of a multitude of banned Jesuits who were "resurrected" by Pope Pius VII.
These hybrids were not priests but still were forbidden to marry.

Certain boys who showed academic aptitude were allowed out to attend the local technical school. I was one of the "chosen few" and I attended the technical school for 2 years. At 16, the boys who were not chosen were sent out into the cold cruel world without any skills whatsoever.


Electrical theory and practice was my favorite subject at Galway Technical School.
During my incarceration in the Gulag, construction of a massive stone cathedral dedicated to Minerva Assumed into Heaven was underway at the site of a former jail.

My favorite subject was magnetism and electricity and that is why I am always fascinated by the the career of the great inventor Nikola Tesla. All the boys lived in barracks like soldiers, with no privacy, so I just counted the days until I was 16 and freedom.

I was never physically abused by the Jesuit "Christian Brothers" but I was spiritually abused every single day because daily attendance at the mass was mandatory!!


Patrick Scrivener, Reformation 4 Comments [6/21/2018 6:22:17 AM]
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Submitted By: Jacob Harrison

Quote# 138263

MY BIBLICAL RESPONSE:

Hello Justin,

Thank you for regularly visiting my website ministry, and thank you for the kind words.

I agree with you about Pastor Anderson, and it is unfortunate that he teaches hatred against homosexuals. It hurts his ministry. I have addressed this in the past online, to warn web visitors and let them know where I stand on the issue...

http://www.jesusisprecious.org/believers/loving_sinners.htm

I have also written a lengthy article, differentiating between what Dr. Jack Hyles rightly taught about the "reprobate doctrine" verses the unscriptural view of Pastor Anderson...

https://www.soulwinning.info/fd/reprobate_doctrine_refuted.htm

Having said that, Brother Hyles used to say that he'd rather see a guy with wild fire than no fire. Steven Anderson has fire! I have learned so much about the Word of God from listening to his preaching, and if it helps me, it will help others. NO ONE in America today that I know of is doing more to get souls saved than Pastor Anderson. He is organizing soul-winning events nationwide, and around the world, for which I admire him and fully support his efforts. He is criticized by many, and I don't want to fight against my brother who is getting the job done. Faithful Word Baptist Church goes soul-winning 7-days a week, doing incredibly work reaching the Indians that no other churches seem to care about. So for this reason, I am "patient with those who are with young," a great sermon I heard long ago by Brother Hyles.

David J Stewart, Jesus is Savior 21 Comments [6/21/2018 6:22:13 AM]
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Submitted By: Jacob Harrison

Quote# 138262

The Collier County School Board voted 3-2 on Monday to adopt a new batch of science textbooks after residents filed objections to more than a dozen of them.

Four Collier residents opposed some of the textbooks, making arguments ranging from unbalanced views of evolution and climate change to inaccurate racial depictions of science experts.

Board Chairman Roy Terry and members Stephanie Lucarelli and Erick Carter voted in favor of adopting the disputed textbooks. Erika Donalds and Kelly Lichter voted against them.

The slate of instructional materials was unanimously approved for adoption at the May 8 board meeting. Since then, four people submitted 220 objections to content in 18 textbooks. The overall theme of the objections was a lack of balance and context in references to evolution and climate change and the treatment of those topics as fact rather than theory.

Evolution and natural selection are “a total indoctrination of liberal ideas,” wrote Collier parent Melissa Pind in her complaint. “Very disgusting and disappointing that this is included and no other viewpoint is even mentioned! What a shame that kids’ minds aren’t opened up to other possibilities.”

Keith Flaugh, co-director of the Florida Citizens’ Alliance, a conservative group that is suing the school district over social studies textbooks adopted last year, wrote in his objection that there are “many very credible scientists” who have proved the impossibility of evolution.

Flaugh cited the following websites as sources for his pro-creationism stance: Godandscience.org; Creation.com; Christiananswers.net; and Conservapedia.com.

Michael Mogil, a meteorologist, objected to images of polar bears, which he wrote were “the ‘poster child’ of human-caused climate change proponents.” Repeated references to climate change, he said, “brainwashes” students.

Several of Mogil’s complaints were aimed at images of science experts in the textbooks, which he said inaccurately represented the racial makeup of society’s expertise in science.

“Why would I wind up with four black males and no white males,” he asked board members Monday. “It just doesn’t look right.”

Mogil also cited one instance in which there was a lack of Hispanics.

Naples resident Joseph Doyle took aim at passages that addressed overpopulation, which he said is “an exaggerated, unproven concern.”

“This is a slippery slope implying the need to kill humans— i.e. abortion, euthanasia,” he wrote.

Doyle and other objectors did not recommend alternative textbooks but said the district ought to pressure the textbooks’ publishers to make the appropriate fixes.

Many objections referred to minor details in the books, such as an image of children playing on the beach in 107-degree weather.

“From a safety angle, this is quite dangerous,” wrote Mogil, who submitted 144 objections. “From a weather angle, such temperatures at a U.S. beach are not likely.”

Brandon Haught, a high school biology and environmental science teacher in Orange City and founding member of Florida Citizens for Science, a group focused on defending against attacks on science education, advised the board to be wary of the hundreds of objections filed.

Haught authored a book about the battle over the teaching of evolution in Florida classrooms.

The objectors’ strategy, he said, “is to overwhelm you by so many facts that it makes you think, ‘Oh, maybe there’s something to it.’ ”

“If you actually take a look at each individual fact you’ll find that they’re hollow,” he said. “They’re based on misinterpretations and wishful thinking and religion.”

Several people, including Haught and some board members, noted the unconstitutionality of teaching religion in public schools.

Donalds disagreed, arguing intelligent design has a place in science classrooms.

“The theory of intelligent design and the theory of evolution can be taught alongside each other without violating the Constitution,” she said.

Donalds and Lichter unsuccessfully put forth a motion to pull each book objected to from the adoption slate to be reviewed individually.

“We need to push these publishers to get rid of the political agenda, especially with the climate change issue,” Lichter said. “It’s just shoved down the kids’ throats without any scientific background knowledge. It’s just really inappropriate.”

All three residents who filed objections and attended Monday’s meeting received 30 minutes to present their findings to the board, plus 10 minutes to reply to the district’s defense.

The meeting lasted five hours, the vast majority of which was spent hearing from objectors Mogil, Flaugh and Doyle, none of whom have children attending Collier public schools.

Legislation passed last year gave all Florida taxpayers the right to dispute materials in front of a school board. That privilege previously was reserved for parents only In Collier County.

The change in law came after Donalds' husband, state Rep. Byron Donalds, R-Naples, introduced House Bill 989, which states all materials must provide a “balanced viewpoint” on issues and expanded the objection process to all taxpayers.

Melissa Pind, Keith Flaugh, Michael Mogil, Joseph Doyle, Erika Donalds and Kelly Lichter, Naples News 9 Comments [6/21/2018 2:52:39 AM]
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Submitted By: Yossarian Lives

Quote# 138261

(=Regarding LGBT Christians and LGBT affirming Christians=)

Sad. People want to want God, or at least heaven (with or without him), but don't want to deny their flesh, or the temptations of Satan (who only wants to kill and destroy them). Being "saved" or a Christian is not about the Law at all, ceremonial or otherwise. It's about giving your life over to God in Jesus Christ and letting him decide what is right or wrong for you. It's about a relationship of love, where you want what he wants for you, not what you want or think you want or what your flesh hungers for. The joy of a real relationship with Jesus far, far outweighs any sensual pleasure or sexual experience or relationship. You people who want God and also your homosexual lives don't really know God, and you are settling for hay and straw when he wants to give you gold.

Pluther, Patheos 7 Comments [6/21/2018 2:49:02 AM]
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Quote# 138259

I used to always buy their [the Boy/Girl Scouts] over priced snacks just to support them, but that all stopped when they decided to allow homosexuals into their organization. It's a sad, sad day for something that started out to instill high moral standards and character into young men has turned into this politically correct cesspool.

TimeWarpWife, Rapture Ready 8 Comments [6/20/2018 3:01:14 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 138257

I found GenderCritical several months ago after I saw it referred to as a vile hate sub numerous times and got curious what all the fuss was about. After spending some time lurking here, I feel extremely disconcerted. It was (and still is) very bizarre to me that posters here are classified as "hateful bigots" for little more than acknowledging basic biological reality. Meanwhile, I see the dangerous rhetoric of trans activists being espoused even by people who consider themselves part of the 'skeptic, anti-SJW' crowd. For example, I routinely see posters on subs like TumblrInAction, a place devoted to making fun of woke SJW types, come out of the woodwork to cry bigotry and transphobia anytime someone expresses any criticism of the trans movement.

I'm left wondering: how on earth did the trans cult become so widespread so fast? Why are people who consider themselves logical, rational people still buying into the bullshit? Why are people allowing mentally ill individuals dictate how we should behave and think? I refuse to believe that anyone actually considers a TIM to be a real woman, so why do people fall all over themselves enforcing everyone else to believe it? What really baffles me is the support and mindless praise heaped on TIMs when meanwhile incels are reviled by everyone. Plenty of the rhetoric coming from TRAs could very well have been said by the incel crowd. Claiming that women should be obligated to have sex with undesirable men is disgusting when Incel Ian says it, but somehow it's progressive and woke as soon as he puts on a dress and demands to be called Isabelle? WTF?

What really scares me is the sheer hatred directed at women who don't buy into the narrative. I don't even consider myself a feminist - I don't label myself as anything really - but I felt I needed to make a throwaway just to post here because of the rabid responses I got for even hinting at agreeing with some gender critical views. Is it really so hateful to say that no, I don't think "feeling like woman" makes someone an actual woman? Saying that I don't feel comfortable sharing a public restroom with a man wearing makeup is now hate speech? Can I really not acknowledge situations in which women and girls face adversity specifically because of our sex without being slandered as a 'crazy TERF'?

It's shocking to me that we have come to this point, and lurking here has opened my eyes in so many ways. I have to believe, for my own sanity, that society will eventually look back on the trans trend with a deep collective embarrassment and shame.

deduivel, r/GenderCritical 11 Comments [6/20/2018 3:00:42 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 138253

In essence, the dynamic that our society has is, if it’s white, hold it in contempt, undermine it, abuse it, toss it aside, even if it is a child-victim of rape, torture, sexual enslavement, trafficking, and prostitution. If it’s non-white protect it, praise it, advance its interests, cover for it, make excuses for it, even if it’s an utterly foreign, middle-aged paedophile rapist and racist pimp of children. It's really nothing less than that.

Theberton, Youtube 3 Comments [6/20/2018 1:32:12 PM]
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Submitted By: hydrolythe

Quote# 138252

Ted Kaczynski is a genius and a hero. I recommend the small book he wrote very highly. It is called 'The Unabomber Manifesto: Industrial Society and its Future'. He wrote this manifesto before he was arrested. So it must have been written around 1996 at the latest, just when the Internet first began appearing in peoples' homes. His basic argument in this book is very sound and makes rational sense. And since 1996, technology has certainly increased even more dramatically; by leaps and bounds actually. And all this is to the great DETRIMENT of the basic psychological HUMAN fulfillments, dignity and self-worth that every person requires.

As technology increases, the REAL needs of the human soul and mind DECREASE. And people will be amazed at how accurately he predicted what the dystopian future would hold for us, if the technocracy wasn't destroyed. Thar future we are living in right NOW - if it can really be called "living". Hail Dr. Theodore Kaczynski, a hero for the ages. I salute you and the sacrifice you made for humanity. And it was your own blood brother who sold you out and caused you to be arrested and confined. You can't get any more low down than that. Your own BROTHER. I may be posting various sections of his book here in the future.

Imperium Europa, YouTube 16 Comments [6/20/2018 1:31:40 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 138242

12-Year-Old Negligent And Responsible For Own Rape' http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/11/05/1141331/school-district-claims-student-was-herself-responsible-for-being-raped/?mobile=nc

Whatever differences of opinion we have, this is just awful. I don't mean to be insensitive, but I am a little bit concerned as to whether the district really is at fault here. One guy committed suicide over this, and another teacher is behind bars. Was it individual teachers that abused this girl, or did the whole district abuse her? If the district was aware of it and just looked the other way as long as nobody was running their mouths, and then just passed the trash when things looked iffy, then I could see how they were at fault. Maybe if other victims of this dead guy were receiving compensation from the district, I could see that. I could be more wholeheartedly sympathetic to her cause. Otherwise it just looks like another person reaching for money.

But, I mean, come on... The courts will decide that, I guess. The lawyers ought to know better than to use "blame the victim" language in their defense. I don't see how the district is going to weasel out of paying SOME damages. Saying it's the victim's own fault isn't going to reduce damages. If anything, the judge will stick it to 'em for their lawyers being idiots.

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Playing devil's advocate here, but is there ever a legit "blame the victim" scenario? I can't think of any intelligent examples at the moment... Something like a neighbor builds a fire in his backyard, maybe burning leaves or a bonfire, or something. The girl next door decides it will be fun to play in it and ends up getting 3rd degree burns, lung damage from smoke inhalation, etc. Is it fair to sue the guy just for building a fire? Or is it the burn victim's fault for being stupid?

No one in his right mind, myself included, will ever argue that having sex with someone without their consent is OK. However, a young woman has some degree of manipulating her odds. Does she dress provocatively and go to parties where she KNOWS there will be alcohol, drugs, and guys with too much blood in their testosterone system? I'd say she has more of a likelihood of her clothes just falling off and passing out on someone else's bed than, say, someone who dresses conservatively and prefers nice, quiet evenings at home with a glass of wine and a good book.

Similarly, everyone who lives in Greenville, MS, knows that unless you're a drug dealer, a prostitute, a gang member, or you're going to eat at Doe's (preferably before sunset), you have no business hanging out on Nelson Street. No, it's not your fault if you get robbed or shot. But you're not going to win any points with cops or judges for being an idiot! If a white person wants to avoid racial tension after dark, he stays south of US 82.

I know comparing abusive teachers to frat parties is apples/oranges, but defense is claiming the girl was "negligent," which is why they are going to fail. Negligence defenses don't work for frat parties, and they certainly aren't going to work here.

But what I can't understand is why with so many women teachers going to jail for messing with male underage students haven't succeeded in a variation of the negligence defense, especially when we're talking about young, green, attractive women teachers. As a male teacher right out of college, I took assignments where the dating pool was narrow if not non-existent. I can't even begin to imagine the psychology of a woman who goes from an overabundance of male attention to none at all. Being horrendously teased by horny male students can't help matters. So...the teacher just "happens" to need to run out to her car during her planning period, the student just "happens" to be taking a shortcut through the parking lot on his way to weight-lifting. Nobody will ever know. Not until the sex tape ends up on YouTube, anyway, and it will be his parents who bring charges.

Y'know, seduction is sometimes used as part of a rape accusation. In the olden days, young teachers running one-room schools on the frontier were often rape victims. Why is it so different now? Maybe the girl has no business teaching if she lacks the maturity to avoid that kind of manipulation. But rape is rape, and it makes no difference if it is through seduction or brute force.

I honestly don't think it works the other way, i.e. 12-year-old girls don't rape grown men.

But let's (for the sake of argument) turn this back around on the victim. If it is well-known among students that a certain male teacher is a horn-dog and a young girl KNOWINGLY and willfully puts herself in a position to be "exploited" (note the use of scare quotes here), I'd say the district has a good case for accusing the victim of negligence.

Angel Rho, a TWELVE year old girl could walk into the teacher's lounge stark naked and drunk, and plaster herself to a male teacher who's the only other person there, and it STILL wouldn't be her fault if she was raped. She was TWELVE.

[CAUTION: Devil's advocate alert]

But we don't know any extenuating circumstances. Why is she naked? Why is she drunk? Is it her fault for being either? It's possible. Did she know there might be one or more teachers in the teacher's lounge? Well, it IS the teacher's lounge, after all. It stands to reason there very likely could be at least one teacher in there. And there's a 50/50 chance that the teacher is male--you only get two options here. And how do you know it's rape? It could be consensual. And don't pull "can't legally consent" on me. I don't care what the law says. 12-year-olds are capable of "wanting it." I was 12 once, and I wasn't a year or two older than that when I discovered that there were girls roughly that age who already knew what dry-humping is and one or two who had already started having sex. It's a friggin miracle I was still a virgin at 19. Like it or not, consensual sex does happen at pre-teen and early teen years. And I don't buy for one second that they all care whether they are being "used" by someone in a position of trust, because "using" and "being used" is a two-way street.

Now, assuming that same drunk, naked 12-year-old walked into a teacher's lounge and a crusty, old, Coach Hardon happens to be in there and he DOES rape her, i.e. non-consentual sex, then no, it's not her fault for getting raped. But it IS her fault for being stupid, i.e. getting drunk, running around naked, and going inside a teacher's lounge where students aren't ever allowed. It was her poor judgment and poor choices that put her in that position in the first place.

That's assuming the middle school football team didn't kidnap her, force her to drink and strip, and chase her through the school only to have her duck in the lounge to hide or get help, only to be taken advantage of by Coach Hardon.

But if that's not what's going on, if this is something analogous to frat-party antics, and if the girl makes herself vulnerable by making stupid choices, she is negligent. She's spitting into the wind. If you run out into a busy street, you don't get to sue someone when they run over you with a car.

People who commit rape deserve to be brought to justice. Coach Hardon is going to lose his teaching creds, lose his career, lose any hope of functioning in society for being a pedophile, and spend a significant amount of time in prison. It doesn't matter if she consented or not (realistically). I don't dispute that, nor do I dispute that victims of rape deserve justice. Neither am I in favor of a "blame the victim" mentality.

But there is another side to all this, and that is the side of the accused and anything or anyone associated with him. On the one hand, the accused has the right to due process. The accusations could be false, after all, and what REALLY happened was the coach said something she didn't like at P.E.--something like "you MUST wear shoes to play dodgeball." I dunno. So she chugs some vodka, strips, attacks the coach in the teacher's lounge, and when the principal rushes in to see what the ruckus is all about, she points and says "HE made me do it!! !" The guy gets fired on the spot, and if there's a case in court it's going to be her word against his, and who do you think the judge is going to believe?

10 years later and the same girl is .02 away from graduating from college with honors, so it pisses her off. She thinks about it and decides maybe she can recoup on her student loans a little, so she sues the school district for damages. All this when the wrongdoing was entirely on her part.

Purely hypothetical, I know, but not unrealistic. So I think we have to be careful how we pursue sensitive matters of seeking justice for rape when there is so much room to unfairly manipulate the system.

Back in the real world, this person was abused by two teachers, not the entire school and not the administration. Her case is against those who did her harm. One of her bullies is dead and the other will never have a normal life. I feel for her and recognize what happened to her was awful and perhaps she can't live a normal life because of it. But you punish the guilty, not the innocent, and I don't see how there is anything left to be done. With all due respect to this woman and all she went through, this lawsuit reeks of frivolity. She thinks she has someone by the balls, so she's going to play this for all it's worth. And I'm not sure why. Is it just the money? Revenge motive? Closure? Just because she can? I've never been raped, and I'm not a woman, so I can't speak for a female rape victim. But I just don't see how any of this is really going to make her feel any better. Unless she comes to terms with what happened spiritually and emotionally, and for all I know she already has, she'll never "get over it" if that's even possible. I don't know what more there can be done or what more there SHOULD be done. I don't see how making an entire district responsible for what two individuals did is going to solve anything. I'm sure the details are probably more convoluted than what we get from the article, which seems more commentary than informative, but just based on what I've read so far that's all I have for you.



AngelRho, Wrong Planet 8 Comments [6/20/2018 1:30:54 PM]
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Quote# 138241

There are NO Biblical grounds for divorce. The biggest lie in churches today is that divorce is permissible in cases of adultery. If that were true, then what about all the other sins one's spouse can commit... murder, theft, extortion, lust? Jesus taught in Matthew 5:28 that lust is the same as adultery. If you believe that lust is a sin, then every wife of a husband who lusts has grounds for divorce. Clearly, Jesus did not intend for anyone to divorce, which He makes very clear in Matthew 19:8. Divorce is always a sin.

In Matthew 19:9 Jesus simply taught that if a man's wife divorces him, then he is the victim, and not committing adultery by remarriage. She filed. It was her self-righteousness that dragged the husband into court. By comparing Scripture with Scripture, it is plain that divorce is never permissible. The person who files for divorce is sinning, and has no Biblical grounds for remarriage (to do so is the horrible sin of adultery, Matthew 5:32). The Apostle Paul is careful in 1st Corinthians 7:10 to use the word “depart,” concerning the wife who leaves her husband; but Paul does NOT mention putting away (divorce). The wife who departs is clearly commanded not to shack up nor remarry.

Divorce is one’s unwillingness to forgive their spouse! No wife would ever divorce her husband if she truly loved him—not one! I don’t care if he beats her, she won’t divorce him (leave, yes; divorce, no). Say what you will, I don’t recall any disclaimer in the wedding vows for spousal abuse which would permit a divorce. And by the way, there are NO Scriptural grounds for divorce.

Society Has Gone Insane

Women today have been brainwashed by domestic violence literature to seek divorce at the first sign of abuse. I was recently reading a pamphlet from an organization called VARO (Victim’s Advocates Reaching Out). There are thousands of such non-prophet anti-violence and abuse organizations all across America. I couldn’t believe what the VARO pamphlet said inside. There was a listing of “signs of abuse,” with questions, and then at the bottom they requested for the reader to seek help at once if they answered” yes” to any of the questions. One of the questions was, “Is your spouse tracking your time?”

Another asked, “Does your spouse ever make any belittling comments to you in front of others?,” “Are you often criticized for little things?” Another question asked, “Has your spouse ever tried to prevent you from contacting friends or family?” One of the questions asked “Has your husband ever forced you to have sex against your will?” The implications are clearly against an authoritative husband who decides where, when, what, who, and why concerning his wife’s life, activates, and friends.

"Who’s teaching the women? We know that many socially conservative organizations are now teaching men to be good fathers. Think about it. Women are learning about issues of marriage and dealing with husbands through Women’s Studies courses (feminist and humanist propaganda), local “battered women’s shelters” (which disseminate more of the same in each community) and many other kinds of organizations that teach women to be independent—independent from husbands. Women are also taught by such organizations to know the incentives to divorce (propaganda and tactics that make divorce an easy lifestyle option for them). Most conservative organizations have been recipients of some of the same liberal, anti-family propaganda—many without knowing it." -Men's News Daily

You probably won’t like this; but a husband has a God-given RIGHT to decide who his wife associates with, where she goes, when she goes there, when she has sex with him, how she dresses, et cetera.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 15 Comments [6/20/2018 1:27:44 PM]
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Quote# 138239

a straight girl will date anything vaguely male-shaped so long as its as cis and het as she is. istfg you could line up the handsomest butches who could eat her pussy for days or the most genteel bi boys who could top her from wall to wall of her tacky apartment, and she’ll still choose her broke, ugly trogolodyte boyfriend who thinks staring at her tits is foreplay and humping vaguely in her direction will get her to cum bc gay men are meant only to compliment her tasteless dress over brunch and lesbians are gross.

spuriusbrocoli, Tumblr 7 Comments [6/20/2018 1:27:17 PM]
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Quote# 138251

(He is referring to the Unabomber)

Those who criticize him for his methods are foolish beyond means. The ends justify the means. His goal was clear and a necessity. Criticizing him for killing such a minuscule amount of people is absolutely preposterous. He should not have done it for reasons other than your fake morality. He should have planned a much greater strategy. He was smart enough to topple our understanding of reality.

Sadly the system is, and was, in such a way that we won't ever return to where we should be, that is until we do return. Most likely after a tremendously horrific time period in human history. Then after our numbers have dropped to 2% of the disgustingly bloated number of humans on this earth now, we will return to our roots. Living off the land as we should, as animals of earth. Not as parasites destroying it.

The Lizard King, YouTube 8 Comments [6/20/2018 12:02:40 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie