Quote# 140930

Calling all so called victims – Your actions have repercussions.
by gryphyn3






One thing I hear about each day, is case after case of men who have been accused of rape or sexual assault in the papers. I barely read those articles anymore, simply due to the fact, they are all the same. The person accused had plied the poor victim with booze or drugs, or had met the poor victim at a party, got drunk together, and then the poor victim went home with the accused and then well, rape.

If you have been a victim of rape, it can be traumatic. We all understand this. I have had two attempts of rape happen to me.

Being a victim doesn’t mean you are blameless. It means something bad has happened to you. It doesn’t mean you are not responsible, nor does it mean you are one hundred percent blameless.

I’ll use the current Cosby case as an example. Here is a woman who admitted under oath, that she went over to Cosby’s Hotel Room. of her own free will. He offered her drinks and she accepted willingly. He offered her drugs. She took voluntarily.

I’m stopping there.

This is why I don’t think is much of a victim. Well, sorry, rather she is a victim of her own actions. She accepted the booze, and drugs of her own free will. He didn’t force her to drink and do the drugs. He didn’t hold a gun to her head.

Does this excuse Cosby if he did it? No it doesn’t, but it does give a clear idea of what the situation was at that meeting. And shows the woman was using poor judgement, and was at least a victim of her own stupidity.

Now I’ll give more detail to my two experiences.
I’ll start off by stating (I’ve mentioned in other blogs), that I’m gay. In my younger days I used to go to bathhouses. These were and are places were gay men of all ages go to have sex. They had reached their height in the Nineties when gays were not yet accepted and there was still a danger to go to a gay bar. It was also a great place for those who were still in the closet to go and have sex.

Now on this night, I had been out drinking at a dance club. I had gone to the bathhouse (because I didn’t find anyone at the bar to go home with), and got a room. In bathhouses when you rent a room it’s this tiny room with this cheaply made bed in it, with a vinyl covered mattress and thin cotton sheet. Everyone who goes to a bathhouse, can either rent a locker or a room, and you are given a towel to wear and that’s it. Basically your naked in a towel and wander around until you find someone you want to have sex with. Or, like me you can rent a room and wait for the guy to come to you. This doesn’t mean you can’t be choosy. In fact many people who go to these places are. We all have our types.

Anyway, I was laying on the bed with the towel barely covering me, when this really, really drunk guy showed up at my open door. I got a bad feeling so I told him no thank you, but I wasn’t interested (this is the politest way there to let the person know to go away). The guy however, had different ideas and came in and shut the door. He proceeded to try to throw my legs above his shoulders and penetrate me. I used both feet on his chest and threw him off, which he flew backwards into the wall. That wasn’t enough and he again tried. And again I threw him off. Banging his head hard on the wall. After a third try he left my room.

I didn’t call the police and even though I was a victim of an attempted rape, it was still my fault. I knew this at the time and to this day I don’t blame that guy. I put myself in that position and I knowingly ran that risk. This is the risk you take when you go and and sexually tease strangers. It’s not pretty but it’s true. When you sexually tease people, you run the risk of pushing the wrong button on someone that will set them off.

The second time, that I consider attempted rape, was when I lived in BC. I lived in this gay hotel and was in the lounge drinking and chatting with the cute bartender. I was happily drinking and at the end of his shift he offered to take me to his room. I drunkenly agreed. We got up to his room and I promptly passed out. With my jeans and underwear on. The next thing I remember was waking up and I was naked with him inside me. I had no recollection of even going up to his room or half the night at the bar. So I freaked out. Pushed him off em and accused him angrily of raping me. He was horrified. He apologized profusely and even sent me flowers the next day. I realized after that he wasn’t at fault. I was. I had accepted his offer to go to his room and that was implied consent. I was the one who made the mistake of 1. Accepting free drinks from him, 2. Going up to his room in that state. So I in no way put the full blame on him.

Now fast forward to today and you get you Social Justice Warriors who think that a victim has zero responsibility in their actions and I am telling you that you are full of it. You are not blameless. What you wear is important, your actions before hand are important and how you interact with a person are important. If you tease and tease someone, and then say “No no, no!” you are risking pushing that button on that person who is not mentally stable. If you accept drinks from strange men and then go home with them, expect they want to have sexual intercourse with you.

If you accept drinks from strangers, if you go home with strangers, then you run the risk of rape or sexual assault. There is a good chance you will be going home with someone decent. Don’t get me wrong there, but if you’re going home with a new guy every week or every few days, then the odds are pretty good that you will end up being a statistic.

Now, here is the advice. You are in control of your life. That means you have to accept responsibility for your actions, and as such, take precautions. Learn self-defense, carry pepper spray. Make sure a friend knows where you are going etc.

This is not taking any responsibility of a crime off the criminal. What this does is help stop you from becoming a victim and the crime from happening in the first place.

It’s like a car. You don’t go parking your car in a crime riddled neighborhood and leave the doors wide open and the keys in the ignition. If you did that and your car gets stolen, were you asking for it? Yes. The person who stole the car is still a criminal but you can bet your sweet ass you asked for it, by doing that.

Same with going home with strange men, teasing them, and then denying them sex. Most men will put up with that and respect your choice, but go through enough men and the odds are you will find one who won’t respect your saying No No.

I really hope this gets passed on and the message gets through to at least some people who believe that no victim is at fault for their actions because as I have just shown, that isn’t correct.


Gryphyn3, Freedoms And truths 10 Comments [10/15/2018 8:02:10 AM]
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Quote# 140927

Bishop blocked by Twitter – for telling the truth about sex abuse in the Roman Catholic Church

That notorious purveyor of hate and guile, the Rt Rev’d Dr Gavin Ashenden, has been blocked by Twitter. Actually, the tense is wrong: he was blocked by Twitter, but recanted and deleted and is now restored. The allegation of purveying hate and guile is also wrong: it is hard to imagine a more amiable, gentle and honest soul tweeting into the cybersphere. But ‘hate’ is what Twitter accused him of, and so he was ordered to recant and repent on pain of eternal excommunication. Deletion was insufficient: he had to prostrate himself in humility at the feet of the Twitter Pontiff, and beg to be restored to his ministry.

Bishop Gavin spent the day considering whether he would do either or both. He mulled and prayed and anguished for many an hour: should he recant and beg? Would he come to regret his decision and recant his recantation? He sought fellowship and wisdom among friends, and decided that since the article he had commented upon had been written some days ago, this particular tweet was not performing to much continued purpose. He considered that deleting it and continuing to foster public conversation on behalf of the kingdom was the better course. He then discovered that on pressing the ‘delete’ button, his Twitter excommunication was immediately withdrawn. He was restored without further pleading.

His tweet was a link to an article written by the Rev’d Dr Jules Gomes, which concerned sex abuse in the Roman Catholic Church. The article is fairly robust in its research, though quite unremarkable in its assertions: it is surely a matter of biological fact that the scandal engulfing the Roman Catholic Church is primarily one of homosexual clergy preying on teenage boys. It is not paedophilia (though the term is often applied in the vernacular), but ephebophilia – that is, sexual interest in mid-to-late adolescents. Since the Roman clerical hierarchy is exclusively male, and altar boys are boys, and seminarians are young men, it is surely not only a matter of biological fact but also of irrefutable logic that the scandal is exactly as Gavin Ashenden described it: not paedophilia, but predominantly one of homosexual lust.

He had previously written about gay predators himself, but this appears to be an unmentionable truth on Twitter: a violation of their rules against ‘hateful conduct’. Bishop Gavin shared no ‘hate’, and yet the infallible edict descended in order to censor him and demand conformation to Twitter’s moral orthodoxy. It is hard to discern where this might stop. Is it ‘hate’ to quote Moses (Lev 18:22)? Is it ‘hate’ to quote St Paul (Rom 1:26f)? Is it ‘hate’ to tell people they are sinners and need saving? Is it ‘hate’ to tweet ‘offensive’ extracts of the Bible? Would Twitter block Jesus?

If, as Dr Gomes avers (with supporting links), 80 per cent of the sex abuse in the Roman Catholic Church is of a homosexual nature, and only 96 of 4,329 priest offenders were classified as true paedophiles, how can it be ‘hate’ to tweet this? He writes: “The US bishops even admitted that ‘an understanding of the crisis is not possible’ without speaking of ‘the presence of homosexually oriented priests’. Criminologist Margaret Smith, who worked on the John Jay report, insisted that: ‘The majority of abusive acts were homosexual in nature.'”

One cannot be too critical of paedophilia, but this is not that. Surely one has to be careful when speaking of sexual abuse lest one point the finger at the wrong group? Don’t we need to properly define our terms so we are clear what we are talking about and whom we are criticising?

Was it the phrase “predominately a gay crime” which caused the Twitter police to block Bishop Gavin? It can hardly be “homosexual lust”, unless Twitter is of the view that homosexuals don’t experience lust as much as heterosexuals or bisexuals do. How would they measure such things?

Either way, this is not ‘hate speech’: it is simply factually correct. It is a crime to engage in sexual activity with minors (fact), but around 80 per cent of the recorded instances of sexual abuse in the Roman Catholic Church were committed by homosexual adults on pubescent or post pubescent boys (fact). It is, therefore, predominantly a gay crime. Or perhaps the Twitter police were being grammatically pedantic? People may be gay, but a crime may not: is ‘gay crime’ a juxtaposition which offends against the public mood of progressive tolerance? Must it be censored to avoid the public paying attention to the more problematic areas of gay culture?

By censoring this, does Twitter not become complicit in the perpetuation of sex abuse in the Roman Catholic Church? At the very least, does it not become an impediment to academic inquiry and wider understanding? And by censoring Bishop Gavin Ashenden, are they not defaming him as a ‘hate preacher’? This erstwhile Chaplain-to-the-Queen has been found guilty of threatening or harassing people on the basis of their sexual orientation, and from this judgment there is no appeal; no natural justice. He must re-learn what virtue is, and what moral goods are, and only then may he resume his role in the social-media order. In the tensions of moral conflict, where compatibility is difficult if not impossible, it is orthodox Christians (and Jews and Muslims?) who are forced either to re-think their way through some painful choices, or to work out a strategy for evading these choices. Yet it is only by raising and openly debating these moral tensions and conflicts that public morality acquires an important dimension of its content. Shouldn’t Twitter be facilitating that conversation, rather than hurling ‘hate’ at every slightly contentious use of terminology?

Who reported Bishop Gavin? That’s the interesting question. Is it not preferable to take up a matter of dispute with your brother rather than run to the Twitter police and demand his suppression and restriction? What are you afraid of? Truth?

Archbishop Cranmer, Archbishop Cranmer 6 Comments [10/15/2018 8:01:11 AM]
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Quote# 140926

Turkish Lira Crisis: “As for the one who disregards My message, he will have a miserable life”

The Turkish Lira hit a record low this week, and so far this year has lost 40% of its value against the dollar. In response Erdogan said, “They have got dollars, we have got our people, our right, our Allah.”

Erdogan was widely ridiculed for this statement. Yes, we do have Allah (Most High) but the solution to this crisis is not to pray to Allah while at the same time disobeying Him and implementing a riba (interest) based economic system with a fiat currency.


Allah (Most High) says,

“As for the one who disregards My message, he will have a miserable life, and we resurrect him, on the Day of resurrection, blind.”

(Ta Ha, 20:124)

This currency crisis is caused by the Turkish Lira being a fiat currency with no intrinsic value. In order to resolve this, Turkey must implement all the Islamic systems including the Islamic economic system, abolish the Lira and replace it with a new bi-metallic currency based on gold and silver. This is what it means to truly rely on Allah.

islamciv, Islamciv.com 4 Comments [10/15/2018 8:00:43 AM]
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Quote# 140925

gothicraichu asked:

what does zendaya is meechee have to do with tumblr sjw's and making everything LGBT+????????

because this is exactly the kind of humour that liberal tumblr puts on this fucked up pedestal and refuses to accept criticism on. If someone doesn’t think it’s funny, like me, good fucking luck for us because that’s all you’ll be going on about for months. you find some “meme” that’s vaguely reminiscent of the 2012 era “random XD” humour and promote the shit out of it, beating it to death in the process. that’s what the sjws do constantly. sound familiar yet? everyone claims straight people can’t face forms of oppression but i have to fucking disagree with that. Also the guy in the video looks like a fucking walnut.

circumsizedbagel, tumblr 5 Comments [10/15/2018 8:00:38 AM]
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Quote# 140924

The Devil is real. Hollywood worships the god of this world. The people who don't believe that Jesus is the Christ, and reject the Bible as inspired by God, ought to wake up to all the satanism in the music, movies and culture that they are saturated in. Evidence of God and Satan are everywhere. Evidence of the unseen spirit world is all around us. The wicked spirit of Satan is prevalent in Hollywood, Las Vegas and Walt Disney. The lying and deceptive spirit of Satan is prevalent in the mainstream newsmedia, Washington D.C. politics and Wall Street.

Few people realize that a witch wrote most of singer Elton John's songs, Bernie Taupin. Elton John's real problem is with God. The lyrics are written in witchcraft language, many by automatic writing (a demonic practice where a satanic force takes possession of your hand and writes the song for you). Even The Beach Boys admit that they were getting high on LSD and trying to make witchcraft music back in the 1960's. The Grateful Dead were originally called The Warlocks (male witches). Aleister Crowley (the poster-child for modern-day Rock music) was involved in the creation of the Rock music industry, teaching to walk, speak, write backwards (and use backward masking in music).

Homosexual gays accuse God-fearing Christians of corrupting religion and defiling God's love. The truth is that it's the gays who pervert everything, turning God's truth into a lie (Romans 1:25). Satanism is prevalent in American culture and society. Most people can't see the forest for the trees, because Satan has blinded them with worldly wisdom.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 10 Comments [10/15/2018 8:00:32 AM]
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Quote# 140913

Johnny25343: With regard to the Bile being a perfect book. Here's the thing. The Bible was inspired, NOT DICTATED. As a result a book even an inspired one written by sinful man is no more perfect and inerrant than the man in the moon. My faith is not in the Bible because I know that it has contradictions. My faith rather is in the person who the book is about. Now He believed in the Scriptures and because of Him I believe the Bible, contradictions and all. Sadly so many people get to the point to where they lose faith because ministers refuse to be intellectually honest about the Bible and its contradictions. My faith is in the one the Bible continuously speaks of.

Leroy Lewis: J , there are no contradictions whatsoever in the Bible. There may very well be certain things written and recorded that you do not understand and you would not be alone in that. But there are no contradictions. God is steadfast in all things. What you don't understand today with the help of The Holy Spirit you will understand tomorrow, He will teach you , Precept upon Precept, line upon line, line upon line, here a little there a little. Very often we children do not fully understand what our father's mean when they tell us certain things, and then a few hours or a few days later , the penny drops, so to speak.

Martin: Inspired means that God caused what was written to be written, a better translation is breathed out, as if the very words of God were breathed out onto the page.
You don't know the person the Bible was written about except through the pages of the Bible. BTW, there are no contradictions in the Bible.

Leroy Lewis & Martin, Premier 2 Comments [10/15/2018 7:57:10 AM]
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Quote# 140881

Gays are seen holding hands and kissing everywhere in public these days, especially amongst youth. It is vile and a shame unto our nation! God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. If God had created Adam and Steve there would be no human race, because they'd be no children. Today, gays are paying fertility clinics to find surrogate mothers, or lesbians are adopting.

All of this whacko insanity will result in some very strange laws and bizarre outcomes in the decades to follow—men paying alimony to men, lesbians celebrating their 50th wedding anniversary, taking the DNA from two men and producing a child in a lab, et cetera! Breakthrough raises possibility of genetic children for same-sex couples!!! Say it isn't so, please! Can you imagine? What happens after two gay men divorce and they have brought a genetic creature into the world sharing their DNA? Where will this madness of playing God lead?

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 11 Comments [10/15/2018 7:56:46 AM]
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Quote# 140872

(=AKA; How out of touch Jonathan Van Maren is=)

Here’s why even Christians can’t stand Matt Walsh

If Ben Shapiro is the gentleman boxer of conservative commentary, his Daily Wire colleague Matt Walsh is definitely a doomsday prophet in sackcloth and ashes. Each new essay-length column fairly drips with depressing details of why, exactly, our culture is broken, our Christianity is shallow, and our countries are tearing themselves apart. Despite this, Walsh has hundreds of thousands of readers, and for the same reason Shapiro is so popular: He’s generally right.

Reading Matt Walsh’s essays often is, as my friend once said about Peter Hitchens’ weekly column, like a thunder-shower on a day when you had plans outdoors. His writing, his social media comments, and even his videos seem to show someone who is deeply burdened about the state of the culture, and his demeanour often appears melancholic. I bumped into Walsh only once, when I was doing an interview for EWTN right after him, and his somber look as he strode out of the studio-area seemed to confirm his online persona.

What I really appreciate about Matt Walsh is that he decides to target topics that he knows will enrage his own readership. He could stick to columns condemning abortion, or prosperity preachers, or even sexual immorality, and his base would largely love it. But Walsh goes after the sacred cow of many churches: Their entertainment. And as he has often said himself, nothing enrages modern Christians more than questioning what they’ve decided to watch or do in their spare time.

Walsh has written columns on why horror movies are repulsive and the morbid fascination with films where human beings are horribly tortured, dismembered, and sliced up in scenes that are often perversely sexually charged. Predictably, there was backlash—because when you read a description of horror movies in black and white on the page, suddenly it seems rather hard to justify. Suddenly the idea of watching people scream and writhe in horrible pain for the purpose of entertainment seems—well, pretty screwed up.

Walsh also went after violent video games, again asking why Christians find it acceptable to spend time simulating the killing of other people, sometimes even through stabbing, hacking, and strangulation. Again, the backlash online was immediate—and far louder and more vicious than if Walsh had penned a column condemning the hypocrisy of the Left. The same happened when Walsh asked why the pagan origins of yoga didn’t bother anyone, and when he demanded to know how Christians could justify the savage sexual violence and openly pornographic nature of the HBO show Game of Thrones, which—believe it or not—many Christians insist is a perfectly acceptable thing to watch.

I thought of Walsh’s work when I read a short blog post recently by the popular Christian blogger Tim Challies, who has also written frequently on the inability of modern church-goers to handle any criticism of their entertainment choices without instant anger and defensiveness. It was titled “Are You Godly Enough to Watch Smut?” and addressed the simple fact that Christians today are willing to defend entertainment that Christians a mere century—or even fifty years ago—would without question find appalling and wicked in the extreme. Challies also noted that the TV show Stranger Thingswas very popular in his circles—but that when he tried to watch it, he was confronted with scenes his conscience would not allow: "To create Stranger Things a group of people filmed an actual eighteen-year-old girl actually taking off her shirt and actually simulating losing her virginity to an actual teenaged boy. They did that for our pleasure, for our entertainment, so we could see it. What on this side of hell could justify me, a nearly forty-year-old man, watching a production that involves an eighteen-year-old girl—someone’s daughter, someone’s future wife—disrobing and writhing her way through simulated sex with a manipulative, hormone-driven boyfriend?"

One of the reasons Walsh and often Challies are so controversial is that they puncture the hypocrisy of a modern Christianity that condemns porn, unless it is in the movies and TV shows that they like. Violence is wrong, but pretending to gruesomely kill people is okay, and kicking back with a bowl of popcorn to watch people get dismembered and horribly tormented is okay, too. And the backlash that these writers receive to columns making these very obvious points is hugely indicative: Modern Christians get angrier about the prospect of giving up their TV shows and their movies than they do about giving up their religious liberty.

Jonathan Van Maren, LifeSite 4 Comments [10/15/2018 7:56:33 AM]
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Quote# 140811

I'm sure that some of my critics say, “You're always talking about Brother Hyles, Brother Hyles, Brother Hyles.” Yes Sir, and I aim to keep promoting him, because He followed Jesus!!! Dr. Hyles started pastoring when he was 19-years-old and faithfully pastored churches for 55-years, until the Lord took him home at age 74 in 2001. Thank God for Brother Hyles!!! The apostle Paul said in 1st Corinthians 11:1, “Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.” We all follow someone. As human beings we all have heroes, and that's not bad if you have the right heroes.

It is tragic that so many youth follow some carnal athletes like Michael Jordan or Walter Payton, who've never done anything with their life except play ball. I'm not against sports, but I am against idolizing athletes instead of men of God. It won't matter one tiny bit in eternity how many baskets Michael Jordan made. It won't matter how many yards Walter Payton ran, or how many touchdowns he made throughout his carrier. Dr. Hyles talks about this subject in his awesome MP3 sermon, “It Just Doesn't Make Sense.” Walter Payton is now in eternity. Payton was a Baptist, which doesn't necessarily mean that he was born-again, but I think there's a very good chance that he was a genuine Christian. Walter was an incredible athlete . . .

One of the strongest and most talented men in football, Walter Payton could bench-press 390 pounds, leg-press more than 700 pounds, throw a football 60 yards, punt it 70 yards, kick 45-yard field goals, and walk the width of the field on his hands. It was this phenomenal combination of power and control that allowed Payton to play in every game except one during his 13 years of National Football League (NFL) competition.

SOURCE: http://www.answers.com/topic/walter-payton

How many souls did Walter Payton try to win to Christ? What did He do for the New Testament Church and Jesus Christ? God created us all “FOR HIS PLEASURE” (Revelation 4:11). I'm not criticizing Mr. Payton, but I cannot help but wonder if he's happy with the life that he lived while on earth? Ecclesiastes 12:13, “Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.” I know that the people who despise and criticize my ministry's website won't feel that way when they enter into eternity and find out that it's all true!!! I'm on the Lord's side!

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Precious 6 Comments [10/15/2018 7:55:29 AM]
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Quote# 140807

As soon as people bring up fallacies I ignore them. It's just another way to make someone look bad that you don't agree with. Its just an adult version of school yard name calling. Kind of like when all else fails insult someones grammar or spelling.

NothingIsImpossible, Christian Forums 15 Comments [10/15/2018 7:55:18 AM]
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Quote# 140803

A lot of ungodly people are upset with Pastor Anderson for his tough love preaching against sinners. Albeit, I want you to mentally do something. Picture eternity on Judgment Day, when the future will be no more. In eternity, do you really think for one second that God is going to tolerate, honor and accept two homosexual men, who were “married” on earth? Do you think Steven Anderson will have to lower his head in shame in God's holy presence, or the homosexuals and national leaders who have banned him from entering into their countries with the truth? Do you think God is going to judge 50/50, blaming both sides and justifying both sides, as is common in this filthy, wicked and warped world of sin in which we live? Not a chance. Pastor Anderson is going to be 100% vindicated, as will I, because we “let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.” The coming judgment in eternity will not be a time of negotiation, it will be a time when all men WILL BE JUDGED according to their works.

If you think God will side with the homosexual agenda, you are gravely in error. Likewise, a lot of people are upset with me for stepping on toes with my tough preaching. Albeit, I guarantee you that when we all stand in judgment before God, I will be vindicated in my preaching and stand, and that includes my stand against new-evangelicals who make light of the verbal inspiration of the King James Bible. New-evangelicals make light of the purity of God's Word, and the clarity of the Gospel, and women's modest attire, and the proper meaning of Bible repentance for salvation, et cetera. I have more respect for a homosexual than I do for a new-evangelical pastor, who is indifferent toward the truth!

It will boil down to you are either saved or lost! You either “DIE IN THE LORD” (Revelation 14:13); or you “DIE IN YOUR SINS” (John 8:24). Either your sins were paid for on the cross by the Lord Jesus Christ, or else you foolishly rejected Christ's payment and will have to pay for your own sins in the Lake of Fire (Revelation 20:15). A lot of the people ripping against Steven Anderson are not saved, and they clearly do not understand the Word of God. Although some people may claim that is exactly why it is damaging what Brother Anderson is doing, offending people with hard in-your-face preaching, I completely disagree. If there is one thing that I have learned in my 39 years as a born-again Christian, it is that people are going to do what they are going to do, and it has little to do with what we do.

Granted, the Bible says Jude 1:22, “And of some have compassion, making a difference.” I do actually think that Pastor Anderson greatly hinders his ministry by a lack of compassion for sinners, but that doesn't change the truthfulness of his message, nor the consequences of not heeding the truth. Hebrews 10:31, “It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.” Psalms 36:1, “The transgression of the wicked saith within my heart, that there is no fear of God before his eyes.” Brother Anderson has only been alive on planet earth for 36 years, God has been here for all eternity! Pastor Anderson is still learning. Anybody with half a brain knows that truth! There is no a homosexual on the planet who doesn't know that there is a holy God, who made them normal, and He is a good God, and pastor Anderson is just a human being too, imperfect. Who is a sodomite to question a pastor's lack of love for homosexuals? Yeah, that's what I thought! No one can blame Steven Anderson.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 10 Comments [10/15/2018 7:55:10 AM]
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Quote# 140800

I can infer the "truth" about the de-evolution theory by the 2nd law of Thermodynamics than you can for macroevolution, but that is a mocking sarcasm against the "preponderance of evidence" reasoning for the evolution theory. Do men act like apes around females? Do not many witnesses, both men and women, will attest to men behaving like Neanderthals? Do law enforcements testify to men acting like Cro-Magnum men when subduing females against their will for mating? One can observe and prove the de-evolution theory quite well by such a preponderance of evidence and yet we know it is not true, right?

Science cannot prove the age of anything by their dating method when it goes past known human history since they are errant dating results as proven by history and even in the present day; example; a living mollusk is carbon dated as 2,300 years old "dead". So how can any one take stock in their dating methods past human history? No self respecting scientists can.

And when the errant dating methods does not meet their evolutionary time table or find a fossil out of place as found with fossils in according to their geographical evolutionary time table, they conveniently place it in according to the evolutionary time chart.

Evidence of this is how fossilized whale bones and other fossilized marine life were found on the top of the Andes Mountains buried "TOGETHER" with fossilized land animal bones like the extinct Gibbon. The "scientists" testify that they can just bend over and pick them right up, but to counter them being buried together, they spun the tale in presenting the evidence in according to the evolutionary time table by saying that the mountains rose suddenly from the sea, trapping marine life by doing so, and yet offer no explanation for the fossilized land animal bones that were found buried together with the fossilized marine life.

WHALE FOSSILS HIGH IN ANDES SHOW HOW MOUNTAINS ROSE FROM SEA

The scientific fact about the reservoir effect where marine life will absorb carbon 14 at a lower rate than land animals seems to be purposefully overlooked in favor of presenting these preponderance of evidence. That means they would get a different dating result by those fossilized bones on that mountaintop buried together. See the evidence of the Biblical global flood yet?

They are now changing the time table from when they said that birds evolved from dinosaurs to now.. dinosaurs had evolved from birds. Would birds in flight receive a higher absorption of carbon 14 than land animals? In any event, what they had said formerly as being a fact or true, they are now changing their "facts" or the "presentation" of the evidence but still only within the parameters of the evolution theory.

When our government gives grants to those that try to prove the evolution theory, you can suspect any proposals for grants to be geared towards that effect when their livelihood is at stake.

Now if that false science is not circumspect enough, Jesus's words testify to Noah's flood as a real time event as a warning to believers to be ready or else because Peter warned of a fiery judgment was coming in 2 Peter 3 rd chapter also in relation to Noah's flood.

Jesus validated the first marriage. He validated the reason behind the creation of the sabbath day. He warned believers in regards to how God has judged the world by the flood in Noah's days and judged the cities of Sodom & Gomorrah of that coming judgment of destruction that will occur after His appearing for why they are to be ready & willing to go or else.

No genetic information has ever been observed as being added to a living organism. It will never happen. The Law of Biogenesis sees to that as life cannot come from nothing; life comes from similar life, but evolutionists keeps glossing over that law because they coined the term microevolution from that law to make macroevolution "look" plausible. It is a deception.

So you either believe Jesus's words or you believe the ever changing words of fallible men by their fallible devices for what that false science that is the evolution theory is all about; the world withholding the truth in unrighteousness.

HopefulNChrist, BaptistBoard 10 Comments [10/15/2018 7:55:00 AM]
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Quote# 140782

At the core, many cases of sexual assault involve 2 people, drunk, going into a room then coming out telling different stories. In the absence of physical evidence or other witnesses that's a really hard crime to prove. It's he said/she said.

Many movements recently have been trying to deal with this by lowering the standard of evidence required to find someone guilty, which is concerning because obviously you can't have accusation = guilt in any reasonable society.


Tonus, MMO Champion 10 Comments [10/15/2018 7:54:16 AM]
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Quote# 140773

30 years later I was able to crawl back from the dead, slowly but surely and accomplish this in this lifetime. I have fully researched, discovered, and codified OT 9 - along with Infinity Procedure which is one single procedure that is composed of three parts that can handle a PC to clear, and take them all the way through to OT, and finally culminate in an additional state beyond OT.

I am here, and I am here to complete and continue my mission of bringing the discoveries that are Dianetics and Scientology to anyone who will pick up a set of cans. Come hell or high water I'll be damned if this is lost to Mankind as I wholeheartedly believe and have demonstrated that it is the only source of salvation for us all and the only means for building better and stable lives. So I will continue to go about things much as I always have and let the Technology and it's results speak for themselves, with no worries as I am certain that in the years to come all I have done will be vindicated and I can once again have the upmost pride in the fact that Scientologists stand millions strong.

"L. Ron Hubbard", L. Ron Hubbard Rising 7 Comments [10/15/2018 7:54:10 AM]
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Quote# 140765

The Salvation Army horribly teaches that salvation is a state, instead of a new birth. The Salvation Army teaches the satanic LIE that salvation is a temporary state that can be forfeited by unfaithfulness. Read their statement of faith for yourself...

“We believe that continuance in a state of salvation depends upon continued obedient faith in Christ.”

https://www.salvationarmy.org.nz/about-us/articles-of-faith

https://www.salvationarmy.org.uk/salvation-army-doctrines

That is works! The Salvation Army's founders were heretical Calvinists! I'm not sorry to say that the Salvation Army, and it's founders General William and Catherine Booth, are not saved if they truly believe that they must do something to remain in a state of salvation. That is not the free grace Gospel! You cannot earn eternal life. Clearly, the Salvation Army believes that salvation CAN be lost, by not continuing in obedient faith. You cannot find any such nonsense in the Scriptures!

My friend, you do not become righteous by living a righteous life. Your soul needs to be washed! Only the precious blood of Jesus can do that! The only way to be declared righteous with God the Father, is through submitting by faith to the sacrifice of God's only begotten Son on the cross to pay for your sins. Salvation is not me meaning business, it is God meaning business! The Gospel must not be altered to pressure people to turn away from their sinful bad habits, otherwise it is a false Gospel. The true Gospel is solely by God's grace, easy and free and so simple that even a small child can be saved, simply by believing.

Christ died for me, the JUST for the UNJUST!!!

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Precious 9 Comments [10/15/2018 7:54:00 AM]
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Quote# 140739

“After All This … There’s Still More!”

God the Father will not permit us to pursue intimacy with Him before we gain intimacy with Jesus. Jesus Himself has won this place of intimacy with God the Father, and the Father commands us to believe, receive, and love His Son before coming to Him. The Father was so pleased that Jesus pursued intimacy with the Father and obeyed His will through suffering for all humankind. As a result, the Lord promoted Jesus to the highest place of intimacy in His kingdom. Our job is to pursue this intimacy with Jesus. As we gain this place of intimacy with Jesus, we automatically win what He has already won, including intimacy with His Father.

Now the Lord was introducing me to the intimacy with the Father before I realized it. I had fallen so deeply in love with Jesus that I didn’t know that there was another level of intimacy with the Godhead. The Lord told me that I had come to a place where I had loved Him at such a great level that it had touched His heart in a special way. He then said, “Now, I will reveal My Father to you. David, He is My greatest pursuit in life even now. This is My greatest prize and reward.” Then He said, with such loving tenderness in His voice, “Just Him.” I knew He was talking about the Father and winning an intimate relationship with Him in Person. He then continued, “I still pursue, follow, and obey My Father’s commands and desires today.” As Jesus stood in front of me I saw such regal, reverential honor and love for His Father. I also knew that the Father loved Him deeply, and I was about to see it firsthand.

David Taylor, My Trip to Heaven: Face to Face with Jesus 7 Comments [10/15/2018 7:53:49 AM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

Quote# 140737

The greatest honor that Jesus could receive in Heaven was to sit at the right hand of the father and be ever close at His side. This was Christ’s focus and goal while He lived on Earth. He wanted to be close to the Father, and not just earn a position of authority with Him. This is the difference between satan and Jesus. Lucifer wanted a higher position of authority, and he thought it robbery to be equal with God, so he strived to overthrow God to get it. Lucifer didn’t just want the right-hand seat next to God, which resulted in being close to Him, but instead he wanted God’s throne and position of authority itself. You need to understand that satan knew about this right-hand seat, and he bypassed it because He wanted God’s throne and place (see Isa. 14:13-14). Jesus was in the beginning with God, and He saw lucifer fall from Heaven like lightning. This also had to mean that lucifer saw Him and the glory that Jesus Himself spoke of having with the Father in the beginning (see John 17:5; 23-24).
His Greatest Goal: The Right-Hand Seat of

Intimacy and Power

Jesus also had this right-hand position of glory in the beginning when He was with God. Jesus did not focus on His exaltation, power, authority, or the Kingdom that was given to Him more than He focused on the intimacy He had with God. All those things were secondary to Him compared to His close and intimate seat next to God. Even though Jesus gained a new Kingdom and received glory, He never speaks about these things being His focus. His focus was to be near God

The Seat Versus the Throne

What made Jesus great in God’s eyes is that He was humble enough to choose the seat versus the throne, and because of this God exalted Jesus to sit with Him on His Throne. Jesus didn’t teach us what He did not first live Himself. He told us in parabolic form to always choose the low seat when we are invited to sit among many seats.
 
When thou art bidden of any man to a wedding, sit not down in the highest room; lest a more honourable man than thou be bidden of him…. But when thou art bidden, go and sit down in the lowest room; that when he that bade thee cometh, he may say unto thee, Friend, go up higher: then shalt thou have worship in the presence of them that sit at meat with thee. For whosoever exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted (Luke 14:8,10-11).

When I first got saved I thought that Jesus was just teaching us how we are to live. I never thought about how this might apply to His own life. But no, it was more than this! He was teaching us how He lived and wanted us to follow His example. He made the seat His focus and not God’s throne. This right-hand seat is the lowest seat, but it is also the highest seat. God the Father allowed Jesus to sit with Him in His throne.

David Taylor, My Trip to Heaven: Face to Face with Jesus 2 Comments [10/15/2018 7:53:43 AM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

Quote# 140733

He Is the Winning Prize

There is a place that we can arrive at in our walk with God that the Bible calls The Prize. The prize that Paul spoke of is Jesus—just Jesus. As you study these Scriptures in Philippians, you will notice that Paul initially talks about counting all things that he had gained as a loss so that he could win Christ. Then he talks about pressing toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God. Prizes are to be reached for; you press on toward them, and you win them. The prize he spoke of winning in this context was Jesus.

He Is the Reward

Winning An Intimacy With Jesus On The Highest Level Possible For All Eternity
 
That I may win Christ (Philippians 3:8).

He is our reward and prize that we win after all life’s accomplishments are over. He’s the Reward. This is the same thing the Lord told Abraham, “I am thy shield, and thy exceeding great reward” (Gen. 15:1). This refers to winning the Lord in a special, personal relationship. These passages refer to knowing Him on the highest level of closeness. When you have reached this level with God, He will say to you “You have not just sought me and found me, but you have pursued me and given everything up that is valuable and dear to you so that you can have me. And because of this sacrifice, you have won this personal level of intimacy with me.” This means that you have been found worthy to know Him intimately.

Winning Jesus

The Holy Spirit (through Paul) said that in order to attain this level of relationship with Him, we must not be distracted by our past, but should reach toward the things in our future. The highest calling we have is to press toward knowing Him. He said that the mark before us that we press toward and look forward to is the highest calling in life and is expressed in His words, “The high calling of God.” We can know Jesus on this excellent and highest level by giving up everything that means something to us so that we gain Him. Paul said that he did this in order “to know Him” (see Phil 3:10). “To know Him” implies being close to Him, and not just knowing Him on any level but also being the closest you can to Him through gaining the excellency of the knowledge about Him!

David Taylor, My Trip to Heaven: Face to Face with Jesus 2 Comments [10/15/2018 7:53:32 AM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

Quote# 140698

Peter: Where does Jesus emphasise that? He said what the Kingdom of God was about repeatedly, including in luke 4 and the beatitudes. It includes social justice at its heart. You just reject what he said.

Martin: The Beatitudes have nothing to do with social justice, they are a description of the Christian.

Peter: I hope you've told Jesus that.

Martin: Peter
He knows, He spoke the words.

Peter: Where did he speak the words you just have? The beatitudes say nothing of the sort! Yet again you simply make up his words when you don't like what he said

Martin: I always knew your reading comprehension was poor:
And he opened his mouth and taught them, saying:
Blessed are the POOR IN SPIRIT, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are those who mourn, for they shall be comforted.
Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth.
Blessed are those who hunger and thirst FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS, for they shall be satisfied.
Blessed are the merciful, for they shall receive mercy.
Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God.
Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God.
Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness' sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are you when others revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account. Rejoice and be glad, for your reward is great in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
(Matthew 5:2-12 [ESV])
This is about spiritual things, not physical, hence He says 'poor in spirit' and speaks of righteousness. It isn't about those with little money.

Martin, Premier 3 Comments [10/15/2018 7:53:10 AM]
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Submitted By: CC

Quote# 140645

Folks, do we or do we not have a perfect Holy Bible today? YES, WE DO, IN THE KING JAMES BIBLE!!! I find no fault in the King James Bible, and neither did Brother Hyles...

I Find No Fault In This Man! (MP3, Dr. Hyles, “Nobody Can Withstand The Attack Of A Critic!”)

The big problem is that we DON'T have those original autographs available today. All we have are translations of the originals. So either God is an impotent God, or He is a liar, or we DO have a perfect Bible today!!! But an even bigger problem is that Satan has introduced an entirely NEW Greek text, that was intentionally corrupted to attack the deity of Jesus. This Alexandrian text was popularized in 1881 by two reprobate, unsaved, Anglican ministers named Brooke Westcott and Fenton Hort. It is upon the work of these two Bozo clowns that EVERY modern Bible version is based, either in part or whole. Satan is behind the modern Bible revisions. The biggest problem in the churches today is complacency, indifference and tolerance of the Devil's Bible versions.

Kindly, First Baptist Church of Hammond is as guilty as anyone in this critical area. Why are they silent? Sadly, the churches nowadays are more interested in paying staff member's salaries than they are taking a stand for THE TRUTH! Dr. Hyles was right when he said that professed Christians don't want to suffer reproach for the name of Jesus. And by the way, stay away from that “Yeshua” garbage that is creeping into the churches. The Savior's precious name is JESUS!!! Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, sweetest name I know, fills my every longing, keeps me singing as I go!!! Dr. Hyles was right, today's churches don't want to be outside the gate with Jesus! Bless God, I'm just a sinful worm saved by God's wondrous grace!!! I AM JUST A VOICE!!! But I am a voice, glory to God!

David J. Stewart, Soulwinning.info 5 Comments [10/15/2018 7:52:40 AM]
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Quote# 140615

"Neue Heimat, fremdes Land - Flüchtlinge in Deutschland" isn't about pitiable people with ugly destinies, that has mishit in a way to seek protection at the shore of humanity and welfare islands, no this action and propaganda broadcast is in truth completely unconcealed publicity for an industry of billions, that Google, Apple, Microsoft, Siemens and how they all are called can take relaxed in they bad and that will become very soon in this country the only remaining: The migrationindustry.

Original German:

“Neue Heimat, fremdes Land – Flüchtlinge in Deutschland” handelt nämlich keineswegs von bedauernswerten Menschen mit garstigen Schicksalen, die es schutzsuchenderweise an die Gestade der Humanitäts- und Wohlstandsinseln verschlagen hat, nein, diese Agitprop-Sendung ist in Wahrheit völlig unverhohlene Werbung für eine Billionen schwere Industrie, die Google, Apple, Microsoft, Siemens und wie sie alle heißen locker in die Tasche stecken kann und die dem geschundenen Land sehr bald als die einzige übrigbleiben wird: Die Migrationsindustrie.

Akif Pirinçci, Der Kleine Akif 3 Comments [10/15/2018 7:52:33 AM]
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Submitted By: hydrolythe

Quote# 140587

I respect the right of other people to choose their own beliefs; but I also have a Biblical obligation as a born-again Christian to expose lies, falsehoods and evil to warn others. Judaism is a Satanic religion rooted in rejection of Jesus as the Christ. The Talmud is a sexually degenerate manuscript, which debases Gentile women, children and motherhood. From beginning to end, THE BIG BANG THEORY sitcom is saturated with filthy talk, dirty-mindedness and sexual licentiousness (lewd and lascivious). It is evil.

Due to the evils of Zionism that has infected our churches, Judaism is not preached against as it should be. I love Jewish people and exposing Judaism doesn't mean that I don't love Jews, any more than exposing Islam would mean that I don't love Arabs. It's sadly ironic to me that the Jews and Arabs, who both descended from their biological father Abraham, deny the Lord instead of believing Him as did Abraham (Genesis 15:6; Romans 4:1-6). Jesus Christ is the ONLY way to Heaven!

“THE BIG BANG THEORY” program is filthy, disgusting and saturated with sexual perversion of every sort. The show has endured for many seasons now. In July of 2015, The Big Bang Theory is as sexually perverted as ever!!! Sheldon is extremely effeminate with homosexual traits, clearly. They're a bunch of girly-boy sissies! I noticed in the January 6, 2013 news online that the CBS show was the highest rated program on TV this week. According to Wikipedia, the show's actors receive $350,000 PER EPISODE!!![1] In a recent episode titled, "The Egg Salad Equivalency," dozens of sexually perverted comments are made throughout the sitcom, including:

"A woman is like an egg salad sandwich on a warm Texas day... full of eggs and only appealing for a short time." ~The Big Bang Theory, highest rated CBS sitcom

Isn't that terrible? Women have been degraded in American culture to the level of animals, commodities. Why don't women complain to the television networks, to the newsmedia and speak out against this garbage online? Why don't more Christians expose the evil television networks? I often feel like John the Baptist, crying aloud alone in cyberspace against the wickedness of this generation. I encourage others to speak out online. Perhaps get your own website. I knew nothing about making a website when I started. I learned as I went, determined to do what it took. There are a lot of places where you can post free webpages, but most of them are filtered from the search engines. You're much better off having your own website for $59 a year.

Let's all speak out against the filth and perversion of this generation. Let's preach the truth of God's Word, and expose all the falsehoods and lies online, in churches and in society. Why does everyone hate the Bible-preacher instead? The Talmud teaches a disparaging view of women (Abodah Zarah 36b. Gentile [Non-Jewish] girls are in a state of filth [niddah] from birth.). So it shouldn't be surprising that Jewish produced TV sitcoms degrade women as dogs. In the same aforementioned episode of the show, Rajesh says with an India accent, "I give her a shoulder to cry on and then I give it to her good" (a sexual innuendo). The same episode makes reference to: menstrual cycle, calls an African-American woman 'brown sugar,' speaks of sexual desirability, a six-breasted sex-robot, sniffing around your goods, take your pants off, inappropriate sexual advance, STD's, just to list a few. THE BIG BANG THEORY is a sinful show produced by unsaved heathens, sexual degenerates, who are bold Christ-rejecters.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 6 Comments [10/15/2018 7:52:21 AM]
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Quote# 140576

There's more evidence of Obama's foreign birth than of Russia collusion.

Aaron, Baptistboard 9 Comments [10/15/2018 7:52:11 AM]
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Quote# 140511

As an internet fundamental Baptist preacher, and born-again Christian, I don't usually comment on things like this, but this particular case regarding Ross Harris in Georgia disturbed me, because of the blatant injustice that I see coming from the prosecutor and judge in this trial. Ross was 36 years old at the time of his conviction, found guilty of malice murder, that is, intentionally murdering his 2-year-old son by leaving him alone in the baby-seat of his car. Internal temperatures reached as high as 125 degrees Fahrenheit, and the poor fella died from hyperthermia. That is tragic and heartbreaking. I will explain the reason for the title of my article in a bit, but first I want to say a few things.

Kindly, I couldn't help but see the hypocrisy of our entire judicial system in the United States, which permits the malice murder of literally THOUSANDS of precious infants every day in their mother's womb. Biblically, abortion doctors are cold-blooded murderers and should all be convicted of malice murder!!! Exodus 20:12-13, “Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee. Thou shalt not kill.” Is it utter hypocrisy for prosecutors to grasp for every straw possible, in a diligent attempt to convict and punish Ross Harris with a lifetime prison sentence, plus 32 years, while millions of Americans murder children each and every year within the boundaries of our warped, unjust and ungodly legal system. Americans are no less guilty than the murderous German Nazis in World War II for their atrocities against the Russians, Jews, Czechs and other countless peoples. Truly, America is long overdue for God's hand of swift judgment and righteous wrath!!! But our God is longsuffering, full of compassion and not willing that any should perish (2nd Peter 3:9).

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Precious 0 Comments [10/15/2018 7:51:28 AM]
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Quote# 140468

Question: "Why is the idea of eternal damnation so repulsive to many people?"

Answer: In the shifting winds of modern cultures, the idea of everlasting torment and damnation is difficult for many people to grasp. Why is this? The Bible makes it clear that hell is a literal place. Christ spoke more about hell than He did of heaven. Not only Satan and his minions will be punished there, everyone who rejects Jesus Christ will spend eternity right along with them. A desire to reject or revise the doctrine of hell will not mitigate its flames or make the place go away. Still, the idea of eternal damnation is spurned by many, and here are some reasons for it:

The influence of contemporary thought. In this postmodern era, many go to great lengths to assure no one is offended, and the biblical doctrine of hell is considered offensive. It is too harsh, too old-fashioned, too insensitive. The wisdom of this world is focused on this life, with no thought of the life to come.

Fear. Never-ending, conscious punishment devoid of any hope is indeed a frightening prospect. Many people would rather ignore the source of fear than face it and deal with it biblically. The fact is, hell should be frightening, considering it is the place of judgment originally created for the devil and his angels (Matthew 25:41).

A flawed view of God’s love. Many who reject the idea of eternal damnation do so because they find it difficult to believe that a loving God could banish people to a place as horrific as hell for all eternity. However, God’s love does not negate His justice, His righteousness, or His holiness. Neither does His justice negate His love. In fact, God’s love has provided the way to escape His wrath: the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the cross (John 3:16-18).

A downplaying of sin. Some find it shockingly unfair that the recompense for a mere lifetime of sinning should be an eternal punishment. Others reject the idea of hell because, in their minds, sin isn’t all that bad. Certainly not bad enough to warrant eternal torture. Of course, it is usually our own sin that we downplay; other people might deserve hell—murderers and the like. This attitude reveals a misunderstanding of the universally heinous nature of sin. The problem is an insistence on our own basic goodness, which precludes thoughts of a fiery judgment and denies the truth of Romans 3:10 (“There is no one righteous, not even one”). The egregiousness of iniquity compelled Christ to the cross. God hated sin to death.

Aberrant theories. Another reason people reject the concept of eternal damnation is that they have been taught alternative theories. One such theory is universalism, which says that everyone will eventually make it to heaven. Another theory is annihilationism, in which the existence of hell is acknowledged, but its eternal nature is denied. Annihilationists believe that those who end up in hell will eventually die and cease to exist (i.e., they will be annihilated). This theory simply makes hell a temporary punishment. Both these theories are presented as viable options to the biblical teaching on hell; however, both make the mistake of placing human opinion over divine revelation.

Incomplete teaching. Many contemporary pastors who do believe in the doctrine of hell consider it simply too delicate a subject to preach on. This further contributes to the modern denial of hell. Congregants in churches where hell is not preached are ignorant of what the Bible says on the subject and are prime candidates for deception on the issue. A pastor’s responsibility is “to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to the saints” (Jude 1:3), not pick and choose what parts of the Bible to leave out.

Satan’s ploys. Satan’s first lie was a denial of judgment. In the Garden of Eden, the serpent told Eve, “You will not surely die” (Genesis 3:4). It is still one of Satan’s main tactics. “The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers” (2 Corinthians 4:4), and the blindness he produces includes a denial of God’s holy decrees. Convince the unsaved that there is no judgment, and they can “eat, drink and be merry” with no care for the future.

If we understand the nature of our Creator, we should have no difficulty understanding the concept of hell. “[God] is the Rock, His works are perfect, and all His ways are just. A faithful God who does no wrong, upright and just is He” (Deuteronomy 32:4, emphasis added). His desire is that no one perish but that all come to repentance (2 Peter 3:9).

To contradict the Bible’s teaching on hell is to say, essentially, “If I were God, I would not make hell like that.” The problem with such a mindset is its inherent pride—it smugly suggests that we can improve on God’s plan. However, we are not wiser than God; we are not more loving or more just. Rejecting or revising the biblical doctrine of hell carries a sad irony, which one writer put this way: “The only result of attempts, however well meaning, to air-condition hell is to assure that more and more people wind up there.”

Michael Houdmann, Got Questions 3 Comments [10/15/2018 7:50:39 AM]
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