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I agree, Krauthammer even has succumbed to the brain rot, I was a little goggle-eyed when I saw that headline this morning. He's always been fairly steady and logical in my experience. Said it before, but all this "highly illogical" (insert :spock here) behavior and response just screams spiritual attack to me. Like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour... and he must be reaching for the tums about now...

Maybe The Donald was like a match to a bottle rocket, maybe that's why the Lord let him defeat Hillary. Go on and light this thing off, to expose the darkness in the swamp. They don't like it, so they are pulling down the shades with lies and fake news and pure deception and rebellion, which is as witchcraft. If Hillary had won, it would have been business as usual in the swampy lands. Instead, Trump is shaking everything up, re-mix. Showing who's on what side of the line.

I dunno, random thoughts there, but it is stunning to see happening.

I'm gonna be praying more for this administration.

pixelpusher, Rapture Ready 5 Comments [8/18/2017 8:16:23 AM]
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I watch anime and it includes: drawings of men, women, and animals. It is filled with music. Women are always drawn with skimpy cloths and anime will always have at least one episode either at a beach or hot spa so they can draw the women in skimpy bating suits. Do this and putting anime characters into sexual situations is actually named and done purposely... see fan service.

Anime is prompting western dress, western schooling, western ideas, western culture. In recent anime they more than likely either adding a homosexual character in it, and/or homosexual jokes or Homosexual fan service.

So can you tell me why anime would not be haraam?

Mich, Ummah 11 Comments [8/18/2017 8:16:19 AM]
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Western notions of democracy have come to dominate all discourse on governance, government structure, justice and accountability. Despite this dominance, electoral numbers at elections, trust in politicians and the ruling classes is at an all-time low in the West. Some thinkers in the West, class their liberal democracies as universal and consider all opposing systems as dictatorships. With the Muslims world demanding more and more of Islam to be present in their politics the Khilafah’s ruling system is a viable alternative for many. A lot of this is due to the failure of democracy to cater for the needs of the Muslim world and its flaws can be seen from a number of areas.

Whilst all would agree that their leaders should be elected, the reality of democracy is that regular elections favour those with money and adversely impact tough long-term decision making. Politics becomes about serving the elite not the public. The problem with frequent elections is that the more elections there are the more there is a requirement for money. Money and politics is one of the major cancers in democratic politics.

In essence the more elections you have the more likely you are to poison your system with money and short term thinking. This is what we see in the West today, countries dominated by powerful interests, riddled by political corruption and with soaring deficits and other long-term problems left completely un-tackled.

An alternative to both democracy on the one hand and dictatorship or absolute monarchy on the other hand is an election of a ruler with no term expiry as exists within the Islamic political system. This allows people on the one hand to freely choose their leader but on the other allows that leader the time to take tough long-term decisions for the benefit of the people.

Legislative sovereignty is at the very heart of Western civilisation, the ability to create one’s own laws, change them, adapt them and suspend them is held in high esteem as one of the bedrocks of liberal democracies. This is why we find after the events of 9/11 Western Europe has suspended some key principles and rights. We have seen the suspension of the presumption of innocence, the right to a fair trial and the right to be aware of the evidence that is being used to imprison you. These key rights, enshrined in Western maxims and used to extract other laws have been altered at will, even though they are supposed to be the bedrock of Western political tradition. With secularism at the heart of Western legislation, laws can be changed and even suspended at a whim.

The protection of individual freedoms is the bedrock of Western civilisation. However, the dilemma secular legislators face is what is beneficial to one person is not necessarily beneficial to another. People’s interests overlap and as a result there exists a constant renegotiation of space, entitlement and privilege. More often than not, the underlying criterion for an action is self-gratification and fulfilment – ‘What’s in it for me?’

A society where an individualistic outlook is common can only decline into a virtual free-for-all, as everyone, including the government, would attempt to take full advantage of life. Freedom therefore leads to people seeking their own benefit and more often than not, those with political and/or financial clout have the upper hand. This produces a host of problems, not least the conflict of people’s freedoms.

One of the fundamental pillars of democracy is that legislation is arrived at through majority voting. In the absence of any divine text, the need to derive legislation must be sourced from elsewhere.

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Secularism, the complete separation between God and governance has become established as the Aqeedah of Capitalism, legislative sovereignty of man over god is central to democracy however one defines it. Islam is on the diametrically opposite side of democracy. Islam makes the Islamic texts sovereign – the supreme reference, mankind plays no role in legislating, only implementing.

Islamic governance does not proceed upon the same route as Western legislation, where safeguarding individual freedoms is considered the basis of legislation. Islamic governance does not make freedom the subject of discussion; it does not recognise or reject freedom. Hence, Islamic governance does not look at humans from the angle of them undertaking or not undertaking actions on the basis of freedom.

Whilst Islamic governance has many details and has been written about throughout Islamic history, the following are its key aspects.

The current situation prevalent in the Muslim world, where ruling families decide the laws that society must abide by whilst they remain above the very laws they have created, is just the other side of the democratic coin.

In Islam Allah (swt) is sovereign as explained in the Qur’an:

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“The rule is for none but Allah” (Al-Anam:57)

This means that all laws need to be derived from the Islamic sources which are the Qur’an, Sunnah, Ijma Sahabah and Qiyas. Whilst all laws, maxims and principles are contained within these texts their application is where mankind must use its own capacities to ensure the right rule is applied for the reality it came for.

To ensure this happens Islam has recommended a constitution for the Islamic lands, where the role of the ruler and positions of power are clearly defined and mandated a constitution where the relationship between the ruled and ruler are clearly delineated. All this ensures that society is aware of the laws it will be judged by, which cannot be changed at whim, this will ensure a multiple tier society does not develop, where different laws apply to different segments of society. It also ensures the elites cannot influence the laws.

Islam has enshrined both institutional and decisional independence for the judiciary which far exceeds what is seen in Western democracies. Islam institutionalised an independent high court called the Court of Unjust Acts (Mahkamat Mazalim). It is presided over by the most eminent and qualified judges (Qadi Muzalim) and granted extensive powers by the Shari’ah. It has the power to remove any official of state regardless of their role or rank, including, most importantly, the Khaleefah if he persists in pursuing a path that lies outside of the terms of his Bay’ah (contract of ruling).

Ordinary citizens who have a complaint against the state can register it with the Court. What is unique about the Court of Unjust Acts, compared to other judicial courts, is that the Government Investigations Judge (Qadi Muzalim) has investigatory powers and does not require a plaintiff to register a complaint before launching an investigation. This court will therefore constantly monitor the actions of all officials of the state and the legislation adopted to ensure it conforms to the Shari’ah and no oppression (mazlama) is committed against the people. The executive counterbalance to the power of this Court is by the Khaleefah in principle having the power to appoint and remove the Chief Justice and any judges below him.

The laws and Islamic independent judiciary work to enforce are derived from the Islamic sources, this restricts what can be enforced as law. As Islam’s fundamental source – the Qur’an is revelatory, what is right and wrong is defined and thus the ruler nor the judiciary can deviate from this. With the introduction of a constitution, which allows more detailed rules from the Islamic sources, society will clearly know where it stands with regards to those acts which entail punishments and fines if violated.

The US constitution is considered a model template, which empowers the President with many powers but then restricts them through various mechanisms as power corrupts. Accountability in Islam is guaranteed through the institutions of government, in the obligation to establish political parties and through an individual obligation on all the citizens to enjoin the good and forbid the evil. There are also a host of various mechanisms rooted in Islam which act as checks and balances and restrict and regulate the ruler.

The Khaleefah is given wide mandatory powers in Islam, this is different to what is the norm in democracies where power is shared with a cabinet or parliament. Whilst the West institutionalised this in an attempt to curtail the possibilities of a dictatorship in reality it has given rise to mob rule where the collective act in concert like any individual dictator.

Islam has mandated that authority belongs to the Ummah. The Khaleefah is not a king or dictator who imposes his authority on the people through coercion or force. The Khaleefah’s authority to rule must be given willingly by the Muslims through the Islamic ruling contract known as Bay’ah. Without this Bay’ah the Khaleefah cannot rule. After this his authority is restricted to the hukm shari i.e. he cannot change what the Islamic texts have defined as right and wrong.
Islam has institutionalised the Bay’ah contract as the method to appoint a ruler.

This was outlined in many ahadith, amongst them: Muslim narrated on the authority of Abu Hazim who said: “I accompanied Abu Hurayra five years and I heard him talk about the Prophet (saw) saying: ‘Bani Israel used to be governed by Prophets, every time a Prophet died, another came after him, and there is no Prophet after me. There will be Khulafa’a and they will number many.’ They said: ‘What would you order us to do?’ He (saw) said: ‘Fulfil the Bay’ah to them one after the other, and give them their due right, surely Allah will account them for that which He entrusted them with.” (Sahih Muslim). The Bay’ah is between two parties – the Khaleefah and the Muslims. It is the people who elect the ruler, through popular will.

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The Bay’ah is a contract and as such it is allowed to add extra conditions to this contract that the Khaleefah must abide by, as long as these extra conditions do not violate the fundamentals of the contract. It would be allowed to restrict the Khaleefah to certain constitutional processes such as the empowerment of the Majlis al-Ummah (People’s Council) and the judiciary as counterbalances to the executive power of the Khaleefah.

Without the restriction on the term of office, the Khaleefah can focus on long term strategic planning for the state instead of short-term planning from one election to the next as we find in democratic systems. It also prevents corporate interests from hijacking the government agenda through campaign contributions that any Presidential candidate or party in the West must secure to achieve power.

The ruler possesses many executive powers such as appointing governors and mayors, developing the state’s foreign policy and accepting foreign ambassadors. He is however restricted to these and cannot go beyond this remit. The ruler’s role is restricted to the public sphere and so Islam would forbid him from interfering in the private lives of his citizens. So whilst the Khaleefah holds all executive powers within the Khilafah his powers are restricted by the Shari’ah.

The powers of the Khaleefah are further restricted in Islam by the establishment of the Majlis al-Ummah. This is an elected council whose members can be Muslim, non-Muslim, men or women. These members represent the interests of their constituencies within the state. The Majlis has no powers of legislation like in a democratic system but it does have many powers that act as a counterbalance to the executive powers of the Khaleefah. These include expressing dissatisfaction with the assistants, governors, and mayors and in this matter the view of the Majlis is binding and the Khaleefah must discharge them at once. It also includes selecting the list of candidates standing for the position of the Khaleefah, no candidate excluded from this list may stand and the decision of the Majlis is binding. The Majlis also decides how much the ruler is paid and the allowances he may get.

In modern times the most appropriate style of conducting the Bay’ah is through a general election, where all mature Muslims, male and female have a right to vote for the Khaleefah of their choice. The Muslim representatives of the Majlis al-Ummah will shortlist the candidates for the Khaleefah and the people then vote for one of the candidates of their choice.

Islam has ordered the establishment of political parties. Political parties in the Khilafah are established primarily to account the Khaleefah and his government. Their task is to safeguard the thoughts of Islam in society and to ensure the government does not deviate from the implementation and propagation of Islam. The right of the Khilafah’s citizens to establish political parties is established from the Holy Qur’an. No permission is required from the government to establish political parties. Although members of the government will in many cases be members of political parties. The Khilafah does not have a party system of ruling as found in Western democracies.

In addition to the institutionalised mechanisms of accountability discussed so far, accounting the Khilafah is a right of all citizens of the state whether Muslim or non-Muslim. Although their representatives in the Majlis al-Ummah will undertake this task on their behalf they still have a right to perform this task themselves. Political apathy is a growing problem in the West. General elections are seeing fewer people voting especially amongst the young. Growing individualism among society is leading people to ignore the problems facing their communities and wider society and be concerned only with themselves. Islam not only obliged political parties with the task of enjoining ma’aruf and forbidding munkar but also individuals.

A central argument of liberals is that after restricting religion to the private lives of individuals, the West has seen unparalleled progress. Secularism has been central to the period of enlightenment and the postmodern world we currently live in. However there is a consistent pattern across all democracies of corruption. The US may be the preeminent democracy in the world but it is also one of the most corrupt.

US politics is riddled with special interests, a revolving door between politics and big business, political favours and backhanders. Though on the surface elections occur every two years, the reality is that incumbents rarely lose. In 2008, 94% of incumbents won in the House of Representatives and 83% in the Senate. This isn’t by accident, due to the significant money advantage enjoyed by incumbents and the continued redistricting.

Democracies should have secularised money and politics and not religion and politics. In Islam the ruler is not an employee who gets paid a wage, since he is not hired by the Ummah. The Khaleefah is given a pledge of allegiance (Bay’ah) by the Ummah to implement the Shari’ah and convey the Islamic Da’wah to the world. Although the Khaleefah is not paid a wage an allowance is assigned to him from the Bait al-Mal to meet his needs.

This allowance is a compensation for him since he is kept busy with the obligation of the Khilafah and cannot work and pursue his own business interests. This allowance is determined by the Majlis al-Ummah who will decide through shura (consultation) how much the allowance should be. They are the elected representatives of the Ummah and giving them the ultimate decision prevents any abuse of the public funds by the Khaleefah.

The ruler, governors, delegated assistants and judges – all the positions of ruling – are not paid a wage but an allowance as compensation as they are unable to take on employment. In this way Islam ensures money is kept far away from ruling.

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Individuals have the right to account any organ or employee of the state, regardless of rank or seniority, this includes the head of state. Complaints can be submitted to the Madhalim Office who will initiate a process of validating and following due process in establishing facts. This office has the subsequent power to stipulate punishments. Individuals, Muslims and non Muslims, are allowed the right to peaceful congregation and protest. They are also allowed to seek out support to make representations to the state on their behalf.

Unknown author, Hizb ut-Tahrir 4 Comments [8/18/2017 8:16:00 AM]
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The idea of a Caliphate is constantly mocked by the West and their secular Muslim agents that rule over the Muslim World. The people who call for it’s implementation are labelled extreme and radical in the Western World and are imprisoned, tortured and even killed in the Muslim World. This is besides the fact that an Islamic Caliphate was implemented for over a 1000 years and is a part of history that cannot be ignored. In this article, we take a look at some of the contributions of the Caliphate to the World.

The first Islamic State was established by the Prophet Muhammed ? himself, in Madina Munawara in the 7th century. Based on monotheism it united people of different colours and creeds and eradicated status inequality. It eventually came to be embraced by many nations and peoples. At its height it stretched from Morocco and Spain in the west, to the Philippines in the east, from the Steppes of Khurasan to the north and to the jungles of modern day Congo to the south. The Muslim world leapt from a period of ignorance and division to a time of unparalleled unity and strength. All of this can be seen from many periods of Islamic history.

During the Abbasid rule of the Khilafah, they began a project of creating a capital city that would be revered around the world. The Abbasid Caliph, Al-Mansur assembled engineers, surveyors and art constructionists from around the world to come together and draw up plans for the city. Over 100,000 construction workers came to survey the plans and were distributed salaries to start the building of the grand city.

Baghdad was the first circular city in the world. Within fifty years the population outgrew the city walls as people thronged to the capital. Baghdad became a vast emporium of trade linking Asia and the Mediterranean. By the reign of Mansur’s grandson, Harun Ar-Rashid (786-806 CE), Baghdad was second in size only to Constantinople. European towns, cities and settlements built walls to prevent raids from outlaws and armies but were typically vulnerable at four points; the corners. If enough pressure was applied at any of these points the wall would collapse and troops could flood through the breach. The Muslims solved this problem by building circular cities.

After the defences of the city were complete, attention turned to how the Abbasids would feed the rest of the Ummah. The development of agriculture under the Abbasids was a phenomenon; the scarcity of water had converted the barren Arab lands into a vast desert, which had never yielded any substantial agricultural produce. The scattered population always imported supply of food grains to supplement the dates and the little corn grown in their own lands. Agriculture in Arabia had been very primitive and was confined to those tracts where water was available in the form of springs. Madina, with its springs and wells was the only green spot in the vast desert. The Abbasids dealt with this by first controlling the flows of the Tigris and the Euphrates rivers. The irrigation system in the land was greatly improved by digging a number of new canals, the largest flowed between the Tigris and Euphrates. This canal was called Nahr Isa (Isa canal) and was open to ships for transportation between Syria and Iraq. This led to navigation routes opening to India and the Persian Gulf. The Abbasids reconstructed the existing canals, lakes, and reservoirs, which were first built under Hajjaj Bin Yusuf in 702 CE. After this the swamps around Baghdad were drained, freeing the city of malaria.

The Abbasids in the 8th century initiated probably the greatest translation project translating the work of the Ancient Greeks into Arabic to preserve them from being lost forever. The careful and painstaking archival work took time, effort and coordination. An institute named Bayt Al-Hikmah was set up and run by the Abbasid Khilafah in Baghdad for this purpose.

At the behest of the caliph an observatory was built and numerous educational institutes which made literacy widespread were created. Other rulers such as Al-Mansur ordered plentiful resources to achieve the task. Translation became a state industry and the Muslim scholars succeeded in what is still regarded today as a truly incredible feat.

Observatories were set up in Baghdad and became an unrivalled centre for the study of humanities and for sciences, including mathematics, astronomy, medicine, chemistry, zoology and geography. The scholars, scientists and specialists drew upon the translated works of previous civilisations such as the Persian and Greek works that included those of Pythagoras, Plato, Aristotle and Socrates. Such works were accumulated and Baghdad became home to a great collection of world knowledge.

Europe had been embroiled in almost constant wars of horrific brutality. Invading hordes and fleeing refugees swamped the continent. In contrast large sections of the Muslim world especially those parts not on the frontiers were serene and tranquil for hundreds of years. In this atmosphere various cities flourished and the story was the same throughout the rest of the Muslim world.

When the Muslims entered Spain in the early 8th century they found people who lived in stone hovels, dirty places with a central hole in the primitive roof to let out the smoke from the small fire they lived around. The inhabitants of these pits would be consumed by soot, tears streaming down their faces. Eye and respiratory diseases were common.

The Spanish would refuse to wash, believing in a form of spirituality that meant they had to avoid an earthly or materialistic life. The animal furs they wore were handed down from generation to generation. The stench was often overpowering particularly as they lived close together in their airless cells. The Muslims, were used to courtyards, canals and gardens. The great city of Damascus in Syria had over a hundred thousand gardens alone. Guided by Islam and a vision of the betterment of humanity the Muslims sought to change this. By the 10th century the Spanish city of Cordoba had two hundred thousand homes, over half a million places of worship, nine hundred public baths and libraries containing hundreds of thousands of volumes. Moreover the streets were paved with stone, cleaned, policed and lit at night. Conduits brought water to the people’s homes and to the city’s many squares and gardens. Students from all over Europe descended upon the city to learn from the acknowledged master scholars of the age.

Throughout almost all of Islamic history the Khilafah and the Muslims were a minority ruling over majority non-Muslims. The Qur’an and the examples of the Prophet highlighted how non-Muslims should be treated. The Treaty of Umar ibn Al-Khattab, in which he guaranteed the Christians of Jerusalem their right to practice their faith in total religious safety became the standard model in Islamic history.

The Ottoman conquest of Constantinople in 1453 CE is considered a seminal event in history, but it was also the first time the Ottomans came to rule over a large number of non-Muslims. Constantinople had historically been the centre of the Orthodox Christian world, and had a large Christian population. As the Ottoman Khilafah expanded into Europe, more and more non-Muslims came under Ottoman authority. In the 1530s, over 80% of the population in Ottoman Europe was not Muslim. In order to deal with these new Ottoman subjects, Ottoman Sultan Mehmed instituted the Islamic rules of ruling over a diverse population, later institutionalised into the Millet System.

Under this system, each religious group was organised into a millet. Millet comes from the Arabic word for “nation”, indicating that the Ottomans considered themselves the protectors of multiple nations. Each religious group was considered its own millet, with multiple millets existing in the Ottoman Khilafah. For example, all Orthodox Christians in the Ottoman Khilafah were considered as constituting a millet, while all Jews constituted another millet.

Each millet was allowed to elect its own religious figure to lead them. In the case of the Orthodox Church (the biggest Church in the Ottoman Khilafah), the Orthodox Patriarch (the Archbishop of Constantinople) was the elected leader of the millet. The leaders of the millets were allowed to enforce their religious practices related to worship.

In addition to worship, millets were given the right to use their own language, develop their own institutions (churches, schools, etc), and in some cases collect taxes. The Ottoman Sultan generally exercised control over the millets through their leaders. The millet leaders ultimately reported to the Sultan, and if there was a problem with a millet, the Sultan would consult that millet leader.

The Ottoman Khilafah reigned from 1300 to 1924 CE. Throughout most of its history, the Millet System provided a system of religious harmony and belonging throughout the Khilafah. As the Khilafah expanded, more millets were organised. Separate millets existed for Armenian, Catholic, and Orthodox Christians, with each sect being divided further into more specific regional churches.

These decrees by the Ottoman sultans Mehmed II and Bayezid II granted the Greek community ownership of the church. The decrees and church remain in Istanbul today.

As the Khilafah weakened European intervention took place and they began to use each millet against each other – something that did not happen for hundreds of years. When the liberal Tanzimat were passed in the 1800s, the millet system was abolished, in favour of a European-style secularist government. The Ottomans were forced to guarantee vague “rights” to religious minorities, which limited their freedoms. Instead of being allowed to rule themselves according to their own rules, all religious groups were forced to follow the same set of secular laws. This actually ended up causing more religious tension in the Khilafah and was one of the causes of the genocide of the Armenians during World War One in the Ottoman Khilafah’s dying days.

The Millet System was a unique and creative solution to running a multi-ethnic and multi-religious, transnational state. The rights and freedoms it gave to religious minorities were far ahead of their time. While Europe struggled with religious persecution into the 1900s, the Ottomans created a harmonious and stable religious pluralistic system that guaranteed religious freedom for hundreds of years.

Whilst no doubt, the Khilafah also had many problems as any human state will have, it’s contribution to the World was unparalleled. The history of the Khilafah demonstrates that there isn’t a contradiction between Islam and Science. In fact, it was under the Caliphate through which scientists such as Ibn-Haitham were to revolutionise the approach to build conclusions upon the observable universe through testing and observation. The motivation for Muslims to excel in science and technology was underpinned by the Qur’an which encourages mankind to exploit the earth’s bounties for the benefit of all peoples.

“He put at your disposal that which is in the heavens and that which is in the earth, all from Him.”[Al-Jathiyah:13]

It also dispels the myth that the Caliphate has a barbaric view towards Non-Muslims. Whilst there maybe incidents in history of Non-Muslims not being treated fairly, this doesn’t change the fact that Islam inherently mandates Non-Muslim citizens to be treated fairly.

“He who hurts a dhimmi hurts me, and he who hurts me annoys Allah.” -Tabarani

These are but only some of the contributions of the Caliphate to the World. It’s clear that the backwardness and camel age attributed to the Khilafah is part of an ideological propaganda campaign to smear the concept of an Islamic polity. Today, Muslims all over the World have the desire to live under Shari’ah law despite the propaganda against the Khilafah. The only obstacle to this, are the imperial powers and their agents that govern the Muslim World by Secular rule. However, the arrival of a Khilafah based upon the method of the Prophet PBUH is inevitable as it has been promised by Allah SWT. The acceleration of the aggression against Islam and those who call for it’s implementation via a Caliphate by the World superpowers is only but a testimony to it’s nearness. Once the Khilafah arrives it will once again lead the World in science and technology without compromising on addressing and solving the problems of mankind.

There will be Prophethood for as long as Allah wills it to be, then He will remove it when He wills, then there will be Khilafah on the Prophetic method and it will be for as long as Allah wills, then He will remove it when He wills, then there will be biting Kingship for as long as Allah Wills, then He will remove it when He wills, then there will be oppressive kingship for as long as Allah wills, then he will remove it when He wills, and then there will be Khilafah upon the Prophetic method” and then he remained silent. (Ahmed)

Unknown author, Hizb ut-Tahrir 2 Comments [8/18/2017 8:15:46 AM]
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Throughout American history, since the time of the colonies, there has always been this situation. A Leftist oligarchical team feeds the angry mobs, utlizing the heckler's vote to undermine good and decent people on the Right.

The Right, being the rule-followers that they are, have an inadequate response every time, and they are undermined with "unfair" tactics. The Right is comprised of rule followers and believers of a traditional way of some sort. As such, they have invested their money, time, and families in the status quo, and they have too much to lose to commit to the fight against the Left in a full capacity.

The Left has utlized the anti-Logos spirit against the Right. This is what happened when Whig revolutionaries placed an oligarchy in power with America's First Civil War/The American Revolution. Tory loyalists mostly wanted to keep their heads down, keep to their work, not be bothered with radical movements, and stay out of the line of fire.

This same Leftist war against the Logos also occurred with the War of Northern Aggression/American Civil War. Radical agitators in the North were inciting mobs and violence, holding up abolitionism as its cause/pet project, and with the compliance of the oligarchy in power they were allowed to attack, demean, villainize, and destroy the dignity of Southerners who rightfully thought it their constitutional right to split from the Union of states--which was supposed to be a EU-style conglomeration of different countries. But thanks to Abraham Lincoln, his war morphed the nation into a horrific superstate.

Now, Leftist Zionism is our religion and national policy. If you are an annoying minority who is against this, then you are anathema, and open to attack.

We've reached the next iteration of the Left's perpetual war against the Right. The ever-present and never-ending war against the Logos. Against God. Against sensibility. The Right will lose, just as it lost during the Civil War and the American Revolution. We shall be run over, honestly. Objectively speaking, there's no other way to see it. There's simply not enough people who are inspired enough to step out of the comfort zones they've worked hard to build up and invest in.

LaramieHirsch, Cathinfo 9 Comments [8/18/2017 8:15:43 AM]
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Crime is an unwanted feature in any society, and any system governing a society has policies to minimise crime and secure the rights of its citizens. In the modern world, criminal acts take on many appearances whether they be violence, abuse, fraud, theft and all of the above in a cyber environment.

Also in the modern world, the sense of insecurity felt by many, seems to be increasing as criminal acts come in so many forms as Assistant Commissioner, Martin Hewitt said in 2017, “Along with rises in traditional crimes, we are facing new challenges across London”. As with all proposed governing models, Islam offers a comprehensive solution towards achieving a society with very little crime.

Even criminal acts have a reasoning behind them. For theft, it is the wealth one can gain. For sexual offences, it is the desire that can be satisfied or with assault, it is the dominance one can feel.

Though these desires exist in human beings, not everyone chooses to satisfy them in a criminal way or by inflicting misery on others. There is no doubt that the actions of the criminal are ultimately his or her actions. The sheer volume of crime in Western society also shows that for many, the system simply does not work for them to satisfy their needs in a law abiding way.

Islam has a very world orientated view towards individuals, Muslim and non-Muslim, and their ability to break the commandments of Allah SWT or commit crime even in a society based upon Islamic laws. It does not expect people to behave like angels and recognises human capacity to do both good and bad.

At the same time, an Islamic system takes positive steps to reducing the risk of someone committing a crime.

Crime prevention starts at an aqeeda (creedal) level. Islam teaches life is a test and that good deeds and obedience to Allah’s commands gains Allah’s pleasure whilst sinning and transgressing Allah’s prohibitions earns His wrath resulting in either Jannah or Jahannam in the hereafter.

Hence, accountability is not to a judge, or the police and authorities, but to Allah SWT, the all Knowing, the all Punishing and the Just. If an individual does believe he can break the law and evade justice, it is unlikely for him to believe he will evade the inevitable accountability of Judgement Day. Thus, deterring people from committing unlawful acts, or entering lives of crime.

Making obedience to the rule of law a natural state of affairs is made easier when the state and its organs are at one with the basic philosophy of the Islamic system. There will be no glorification of violence or respect given to criminals or gangs.

Nor will there be a culture glorifying crime through movies and music as these are not the values which underpins an Islamic society. Rather, the Islamic Khilafah system would do the opposite. It would promote and pursue wholesome ideals such as described in the following ahadith,

“None of you truly believes until he loves for his brother what he loves for himself.” [Bukhari and Muslim]

“One who goes to sleep full whilst his neighbour is hungry is not one of us.” [Bayhaqi’s Sunan al-Kubra]

or

“A Muslim is a brother of another Muslim, so he should not oppress him, nor should he hand him over to an oppressor. Whoever fulfilled the needs of his brother, Allah will fulfil his needs; whoever brought his (Muslim) brother out of a discomfort, Allah will bring him out of the discomforts of the Day of Resurrection, and whoever screened a Muslim, Allah will screen him on the Day of Resurrection.” [Bukhari]

Therefore, selfish desires are not stoked, rather they are tamed.

The public opinion regarding criminal acts and the norms of behaviour will be synonymous with the principles of Islam. As the society is Islamic, their value judgments on actions will run parallel to the value judgments Islam provides. Thus, anyone breaking these norms would be shunned in society thereby acting as a powerful deterrent.

A person committing a crime, will therefore, not better his quality or standard of living, but be going against the grain of society, and challenging the status quo. As social beings, humans would rather seek acceptance and interaction with their neighbours, colleagues and families, rather than being excluded from them, again removing the mindset or potential for a person to be tempted to commit criminal acts.

A criminal will pursue a crime, only if he feels he will not have to face the consequences of his actions or the potential gains are greater than the punishment that would be served if he is caught. Only having accountability to fellow humans is flawed, as humans can be deceived and criminals can escape the wrath and the full extent of the law.

For those who do indulge in criminal acts or violate the law of the land, the Islamic punishments are severe. However, the severity of the punishment, is not to satisfy a bloodlust nor for lack of wisdom or desire to seek mercy. Rather, the punishment system is a preventative measure to reduce the temptation to commit crime. Knowing that the consequence of being found guilty of a crime will result in the loss of life or limb is an extremely potent idea which one cannot rid from his mind as the consequence stays with the criminal for life.

Furthermore, punishments take place with public knowledge and in a public setting. This, combined with the public opinion described before, would have a second effect. A person’s life would be ruined if he is found guilty, as not only has he paid for the crime with loss of limb, money or pain, he will also be known to have strayed from socially acceptable actions, resulting in the public having a negative view to him.

Nowadays, criminals who have committed a crime and escaped punishment, or are let off easily are incentivised to repeat offend; the price wasn’t too high to pay, so why not? An example of this is the swimmer convicted of rape in the UK who served a meagre three months for his crime which destroyed a woman’s life. This sentence is in no way fair, and is an example to other sexual offenders that the consequences of their crime is light. The reverse of this is also true.

Criminals who have committed a crime and paid a heavy price for it, would be an example to the people of what happens when the sanctity of the law is broken. A potential thief seeing a man without a hand is a fitting example of being “put off” from committing a crime.

Upholding the law and being seen to uphold the law is a key part of an Islamic judicial system. There is no one in society who is above the law. The law, procedure and punishment are applicable to everyone within the society. This is evident in the hadith,

“By Allah, if Fatima, the daughter of Muhammad stole, I would cut off her hand.” [Bukhari]

The judges are not selected based on their heritage, network or status. Rather they are selected due to their ability, knowledge and piety. Since this will be evident through their conduct, confidence in the system will be strong amongst the law abiding public. This in turn will minimise any rebellious or vigilante mindset, as the due process is fair, works and ensures the protection and safety of the citizens of the state.

It is important to note that the Islamic Justice system is not to be implemented in isolation from the rest of Islam’s governance. For example, if the Islamic economic system is not being implemented, or the rules governing men and women are absent then crimes of varying natures will occur.

The track record of the Khilafah Rashidah and Islamic state is a testimony to Islam’s ability to minimise criminal activity. In fact, throughout the history of the Khilafah lasting 1300 years, there existed seldom instances of theft deemed severe enough to result in a hand being cut. Truly, the only way to satisfy the problems the world faces, is by using the system the Creator of man revealed, and only through the Khilafah system, can justice be served and harmony be established.

Unknown author, Hizb ut-Tahrir 4 Comments [8/18/2017 8:15:39 AM]
Fundie Index: 4
Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 130705

*Tell that to the American hero that dealt with that liberal btch with his car in Charlottesville*

Well I can't argue that he did the universe a favour by reducing the number of Americans by one. Any American death is a good thing.

Matt Westwood, Not Always Right 20 Comments [8/18/2017 8:14:23 AM]
Fundie Index: 13

Quote# 130704

The sooner all organized religion is banned in every nation, the better and safer we'll all be.

God bless the United Nations for starting to ban them.

Every religious organization should be labelled and investigated as a potential terrorist organization because they all have some types of crazy or violent beliefs.

we can start with banning the American Israel (pro-Zionist Jews) Political Action Committee (AIPAC) and all other organized religion-based political groups.

Religious political groups are the most dangerous.

Jesus and Abraham and Moses and Muhammed are all drinking a beer together and eating pork sausage as they cheer on the ban of all organized religion. All current religions violate the good spirit of their original messages. so all should be abolished.

long live logic and reason and science and imagination.

with or without a formal banning, organized religion is on its deathbed around the world. regular people are absolutely sick of it and all the division it creates.

even the stubborn ones are getting sick of religion, especially if they have a gay relative or believe that religion and politics is a very dangerous mix, like the former Bushian Christians learned about his war mongering. Jesus was a peace maker, not a war maker. People are sick of the hypocracy on all sides.

I hope Iran will lead the way. topple its currupt, rich Muslim, nut-case Islamic scum clergy leaders and ban all organized religion in their nation. this will be a sight to see, and it will happen. iran's people are sick of religion rule, theocracy, and all of its oppression. they are more sick of it than anyone. they just need organization and guns and bullets to overthrow their tyrant clergy. maybe then other nations near them will also imprison or kill off their crazy clergy too. is America and Israel ready for a secular Middle East? who will be their enemy if this happens?

in america, i foresee imprisoning the Christian clergy for inciting people into conducting an illegal, terrorizing war in Iraq. the american clergy are complicit in fomenting that major act of terrorism. love to see Bush and CHeney and all the right-wing Christian leaders in jail for advocating and then orchestrating crimes against humanity and terrorist activities against non-Christians.

Imprison the Christian clergy for condoning and encouraging America's fine young people to join the military and become cannon fodder for Haliburton, Exxon and all the rest of Cheney's and Bush's "Christian" friends.

Anonymous Coward, Godlike Productions 4 Comments [8/18/2017 8:13:20 AM]
Fundie Index: 8
Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 130702

[From "Take Your Place"]

Through the years a war has been waged. Racially and culturally. Whites, a once proud people, have been handed defeat after defeat it seems since the 1960’s. The country our grandparents lived in and enjoyed is vastly different than the one we have today. A person conscious of this, yet not on our side, would ask himself why this is. Why is it that things seem to be getting worse? Also, why is it that such seemingly small numbers of people are the only ones willing to do anything about it?

As history has shown us, Whites have been a people that flourished because of their ambition to pursue the interests of their race. They accomplished great things for the sake of themselves and their people. There was a sense of racial awareness that made this all subconscious to them, but it served them well. The reason for their existence was to improve their lot for the sake of future generations.

The push forward. The more ground they could traverse for their family, the further ahead they could place their race, the better. Well, what happened?

Truth is, there are many things that have happened.

Through integration in the 60’s many Whites have been brought down to the level of Blacks. Many adopt their music as if it is their own. Many dress and carry themselves like their black counterparts.

Through these things come the attitude of the Black. The mentality of the eternal underachiever. The White has learned how to exist without ambition, like his Black lesser than.

Since the late 50’s and early 60’s the momentum has changed hands in this struggle. Where in the past they always were focused on progress, now we as a people are fighting to preserve history as well.

Since we approach this conflict in a defensive manner, forward progress is inhibited by our desire to fight to preserve – instead of attack and take.

[...]

The brown hordes and their communist overlords have us on the defensive. We plan rallies around the idea we are preserving history, instead of planning marches through once white areas that are now inhabited by the brown plague. This is how we show solidarity for our future.

We are the most hated element of society. People flock to strength, not weakness. While we are not a weak people and Charlottesville is going to be wonderful for morale and our cause, it is at its core a defense of our people. We are conquerors. We always have been.

In our position we should agitate to make our position attainable. Go places we aren’t welcome. Large White marches through areas now populated by Muslims, public pro-White demonstrations and a very vocal position on all social matters pertaining to race. This is our fucking country. We have been charged with the task of taking back what is rightfully ours for the sake of our children and future generations.

Defending won’t always be enough. Especially when literally everyone is coming for part of what was created for you.

How do some in these circles say it? Retake Everything.

Larry Ridgeway, Identity Dixie 5 Comments [8/18/2017 8:12:49 AM]
Fundie Index: 5
Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 130700

I think the Vice story was pretty good and accurate.
And yes, I think Judaism is doing its best to provoke another holocaust just as it provoked the last one. My parents were in Hungary when Hitler rose to power and from what they describe, Weimar Germany was much like America today. As in Weimar Germany, Judaism today is aligned with the scum of the earth - liberals and bankers. When the people get fed up with the abuse, they eventually revolt. Unfortunately the fine distinction between jews (an ethnic group) and judaism gets lost in such a revolt. While (Talmudic) Judaism deserves to be wiped off the face of the earth, jews as an ethnic group should not be held responsible for the crimes of Judaism. My ancestors, who were jewish but not involved in judaism, paid the price for this in the last holocaust. Decent jews should make this distinction clear and publicly renounce Judaism. Maybe then another holocaust can be avoided.

fschmidt, /r/Jewish 6 Comments [8/18/2017 8:10:17 AM]
Fundie Index: 6

Quote# 130698

You are not alone. Our local schools have gone from 10% Asian to 40% Asian in the last 5 years, with almost an even split between Indian and Chinese immigrant kids. The Chinese moms are often regarded as abrasive and rude. They do not seem to care at all about social norms or even basic manners. The attitude rubs off on their children. I even noticed my own children now chewing with their mouth open and talking with their mouth full because that's how all the kids in their school do it. Makes me very upset. These new arrivals have ruined the beautiful, polite Pacific Northwest that I grew up in.

The larger the immigrant group, the longer it takes to assimilate them. In such large numbers and such a sudden increase, they are now assimilating us. Obama is doing his best with the new visa rules to ensure the US turns into a Chinese colony even faster. In one generation they will turn the US into another China, and let's not forget why they left China in the first place, because there were too many Chinese!



Joanne B, Nytimes 8 Comments [8/17/2017 9:46:02 PM]
Fundie Index: 6

Quote# 130697

I kept the molestation I went through a secret from my mom. Like I felt horrible for years until I realized that I was just a really gullible and trusting kid when I was six. I didn’t know the full extent of what happened but I was physically threatened and I knew it was bad. I didn’t tell her until I was sixteen, because I didn’t want to go to therapy because I don’t believe in that nonsense and I didn’t want to be treated differently. I was already being bullied and it would have been one more thing.
But it took everything that I had to tell my mom I had been molested.
Also when I was molested he threatened to bash my head in and he threatened to kill me.
Ice cream is also not the same thing as a violent pedo threatening to bash your head in. Ice cream never made me feel like trash. Ice cream never threatened to kill me with a rock. I have barfed eating ice cream, but I would rather barf from I’ve cream than be threatened by an evil hellthing in a human costume(a pedophile).

Poor girl. I hope this bastard rot in prison. But please, do not compare rape with willing sex. That is why I showing a child willingly want an ice cream, not it pushed in her mouth forcefully.

Myluminaryking, tumblr 13 Comments [8/17/2017 9:45:55 PM]
Fundie Index: 11

Quote# 130696

I was wrong saying that pedohaters are a religion cult. It’s not.
Pedohaterism is a totalitarian ideology of hate, ignorance, violence and genocide apologists. They openly want to exterminate pedophiles, and they talk about this constantly. Most of them makes no difference between pro-contact and anti-contact pedophiles. Every person who was born this way should be wiped out from a gene pool and killed in a most brutal way. That is their ideology, it is worse than Nazism. Worse than that they want to continue brainwashing children and just make of them stupid sexophobic ignorant monsters just like they are. That means that children are in bigger danger of this ideology than pedophiles itself. Because you can be killed and it’s an easy way. And you can be transformed into a monster, it’s far worse. Stop pedohaterism, save children and pedophiles!

Myluminaryking, tumblr 4 Comments [8/17/2017 9:45:49 PM]
Fundie Index: 3
Submitted By: Menomaru

Quote# 130695



Myluminaryking, tumblr 5 Comments [8/17/2017 9:45:43 PM]
Fundie Index: 4

Quote# 130693

AQ

1. Q. Why do you comparing people who hate pedophiles with people who killed millions of people?

A. I do not compare pedohaters to Nazis by a number of victims. I comparing their believes. Nazis didn’t kill so many people until they come to power in 1933, and Holocaust was started only in 1941. But it’s obvious that pedohaters want to exterminate people they hate, just like Nazis wanted to exterminate people they hated.

2. Q. My sister, friend, relative was forced to have sex…

A. Just like you can’t hate gays because some people was raped in prison (and sex was completely homosexual), you cannot accuse all pedophiles, because of children raped by abusive adults (not necessary even pedos)

...

5. Q. Why do you compare sex to an ice cream? Eating ice cream is not a life-affecting choice.

A. Sex is not a life-affecting choice too. And the reason why do you believe it is, lies in you cultural background and moral believes. Like in some cultures you cannot touch a child’s head, because “you will suck his memories” or like-wise bullshit. Your believe that sex is harmful or important has the same meaning and reasons, literally - it’s a bullshit.

6. Q. Why do your grammar sucks?

A. English is not my native language, and I never learn it’s grammar. I just read texts and watch movies, never do any studies. But I will be grateful if you will show me most common errors, so I can avoid them in future.

7. Q. Sex is harmful for minors. It’s a scientifically proved?

A. Sex is not harmful for minors. And it was never proved scientifically. What traumatize
children is social attitudes, taboo and shame around it. Therefore, not pedophiles are ones who makes harm to children, but people spreading irrational believes regarding sex. Because of that I call them pedohaters and drawing them like monsters, because they really are.

8. Q. How child can decide to have sex. He don’t understand the consequences?

A. As I said sex is not something that is too important. You cannot have trauma from willing sex, unless you will be brainwashed to believe it was wrong, that is how social attitudes to some actions are causing harm rather than actions itself. Though anything in this world have it’s one consequences. Like you can be poisoned from an ice cream, or you can be harmed from eating it too lot. That is why children needs us, adults, so we can watch out for them to not allow them do anything dangerous or harmful. Certain risks in sex likes pregnancy risk or STDs should be prevented of course, but it’s not a child’s responsibility.

Myluminaryking, tumblr 3 Comments [8/17/2017 9:45:23 PM]
Fundie Index: 5

Quote# 130692

(Medcel)
The blackpill is working, normberts are starting to get it (comments from the r/Tinder post)



(not_here_4_points)
Tinder itself is the biggest blackpill experiment there ever was. The current top showerthought of the past year with 105,000 upvotes - "Tinder is the opposite of porn site advertisements. There actually are a ton of hot singles in my area, but none of them are interested in me."

(Thereitiz)
That bit about 2's having tinder date calendars... fuck thats enough reddit for now this isnt healthy

(Relegated_Interest)
Can confirm. I knew a 200 lbs girl who had that many dates. Over 200 matches.

(Lost_soul99)
your daily dose of suicide fuel

(erikthesmasher)
Tinder is like a harem of women for chads. They can fuck girls now easier than ever.

(usingthistoshitpost)
And we have women saying they are FA and lonely.

(foreignincel2)
There was a comment who said how guys how to compete with each other and have the best personality etc and there will always be another guy more funnier than him so its not fair , lol what a horseshit guys dont compete between each other , girls select the most handsome , no matter what you say words will not make you appear more handsome than you are

(TakeOnMe-TakeOnMe)
Respectfully, men do compete. That's what AMOG is. Especially in a group of classic alphas, say your worst jock frat bro fears, half their game is goofing on each other, strutting around and preening while Stacies pretend not to watch but in actuality are watching very closely.
One Stacy's Chad may not be another's, so more girls win. However, if multiple Stacies want the same Chad, women do the same thing.
I am, of course, speaking of a club, party or other social environment, for the most part.
Junior Chads and Stacies do this, too. It starts very young, on the playground or in the halls. At a time when many boys haven't really noticed girls yet, the High T future Chads have and they're already playing the game. Awkward & goofy boys will raz and dare each other to approach girls, and the one(s) with the biggest balls will win succeed in getting junior Stacy's attention.
At that point, attention alone is good enough.
This moves on to hanging at the mall, shops to skatepark, where boys both compete and embolden each other. Alphas rise to the top.
At these early stages, late blooming future incels may not notice cuz they've still got their heads in the comic books and video games. Then, by the time they notice, they're already crucial months or years behind, social circles have formed and they find themselves on the perimeters.
Now I'm sad.

(TallfagAnnihilator)
The creators of tinder should be publicly executed in the most painful fashion possible. I can't think of single thing that has made female hypergamy worse.

(shitposter1000000)
It simply exposed the femoid hypergamy which has always been present. The inventors probably had good intentions for their own camp like the inventors of the nuclear bomb, but they underestimated how big of a paradigm shift it would cause.

(FPSdouglass)
You're right. Tinder is like eBay. We always wanted to buy or sell shit, but now it's just easier. People still act similar to how they did before.

(damnsong)
You can always curse ancient Egyptians for popularizing the creation of makeup.

(Litchii_Thief)
Nah, I forgive them because Pyramids are badass looking.

(LukeVenable)
You can thank aliens for that

(usingthistoshitpost)
Ayy lmao

various incels, r/Incels 9 Comments [8/17/2017 9:45:13 PM]
Fundie Index: 2

Quote# 130689

(Remember cantfightnature? This shit is similar.)

The New Asian Sexuality

Preface

Asian males do not own Asian females or their sexuality. This toxic attitude has unfortunately led to the resentment and hatred of Asian women for simply expressing their desires and living their lives. This is about the development of Asian sexuality in the 21st century. By accepting and evolving to this new arrangement, Asian males can live more fulfilling lives in the process.

The New Asian Sexuality

Over the past decades there has been an evolution in Asian sexuality which has been bravely led by Asian women. The old pairing of AMAF has diverged, as many Asian women are now solely having sexual relations with White men. The WMAF pairing has become a sexual revolution for Asian women. More are choosing this as their sole sexual identity, and Asian women are more empowered than ever to express and own their sexuality in the way they prefer.
This development has led to enormous increases in promiscuity and sexual freedom. Many Asian females now have numerous white sexual partners throughout their lives, some having sex with tens or dozens of men. Asian females also feel empowered to regularly share White men with other Asian females. The new Asian sexuality has dramatically increased both the amount of sex and pleasure Asian women have on a regular basis.
This hyper-promiscuity is one of the biggest positive outcomes of the new sexuality. Asian women have been liberated from antiquated feelings of shame due to having large numbers of White sexual partners. They have more fulfilling and active sex lives than ever before. In addition Asian women in the 21st century have also become very confident and powerful in society. Attending top universities, filling many high corporate positions, and becoming wealthy and influential.
However some Asian men are resentful about this new arrangement for reasons that might seem justifiable on the surface, but are actually quite indefensible.

Asian Heterosexualism

Due to the success of Asian women the Asian male must now converge his own sexuality with the new reality. The disunity of preferences is what causes feelings of resentment. It cannot remain the case that only Asian women have a sexual preference for White men. This must become the preference of Asian males as well. Their sexuality must also now be based on the expectation of WMAF sex by default, like their women, and it must be supported and respected with care and understanding.
The new Asian male heterosexuality is still traditional in the sense that they are men attracted to women. This aspect has not changed at all, and requires no perceptible alteration of identity. The difference is the focus: The heterosexual Asian male must consider WMAF sex to be the new default arrangement. The heterosexual Asian male must derive sexual pleasure from Asian women having sex with White men. He must come to terms with the fact that he is the passive portion of this sexual triad, with the White male and Asian female being the active participants.

Sexual Preference Transition

One powerful and easy way for Asian males to defeat their toxic masculinity and develop into a supporting ally of Asian women is through extensive consumption of WMAF pornography.
Asian men already watch WMAF porn of course, but it is not done through the correct lense. Some see it simply as sex and entertainment, and do not consider the political and philosophical implications. They ignore a large part of the meaning of WMAF porn through a lack of comprehension: WMAF pornography is the purest depiction of the new Asian female sexuality.
Asian males must transform their preferences to match the evolution of Asian female sexuality. They must be one in the same or else conflict will arise. The Asian female will have sex with White men, that must be accepted. This act is where pleasure and satisfaction must be derived from. It is not acceptable or reasonable for the Asian male to expect any other arrangement.
When their sexuality is aligned with their women, then the toxic attitudes will cease. If both the Asian male and female can derive pleasure from the same act: WMAF sex, then they will find that it is easier to have harmonious relationships. The men will be accepting of a partner who wishes to maintain her sexual identity, and who will continue to have sex with White men.

asianwhiteworship, Tumblr 4 Comments [8/17/2017 9:44:57 PM]
Fundie Index: 6

Quote# 130680

[On a piece of Trivia about Walt Disney having the cigarette doctored out of his hands on every image he was taken of in Disneyland]

Liberals fucking with history Again!!

Talbot Hanley, Google+ 15 Comments [8/17/2017 9:42:59 PM]
Fundie Index: 0
Submitted By: The Reptilian Jew

Quote# 130679

(in response to story "Parents of Eight Year Old Boy Who Identifies as Girl Sue School for "Forcing" Son "To Live as a Boy"

Knowledge Transfer:
Sure, we should let rapists; child molesters; murderers; arsonists; thieves; and felons of limitless description live and let live so that they can do what they want to do whenever they want to do it so long as they don't hurt you. Surely, you would agree to let Charles Manson live and let live so he could come to your home for a visit.

GarbageAdams:
All the behaviours you describe are abuses, they are NOT examples of "live and let live". People like you don't comprehend the concept of consenting adults. No one is being abused, you just hate what they do.

Knowledge Transfer:
The despots who have glorified despotism throughout history were consensual depots were they not? If two children consent to jumping off of buildings, are such consensual behaviors abusive to the consensual children and those who are crushed by their falling bodies when they hit the ground? Actually, consensual perversion or voluntary perversion is more evil than involuntary or coerced perversion because FREE WILL is used to pervert consensually. You simply want to be justified in you unjustifiable perversions so you support and justify the perversions of others. Misery has always loved company.

GarbageAdams:
Children aren't old enough to consent, and that goes for sexual situations just as it does for jumping off buildings, which is obviously
a self-destructive practice. COMPLETELY unlike a same-sex adult
consensual relationship which harms no one.
"Perversion" in this sense is entirely a matter of your opinion. Just as I find it perverse in the extreme what you do to the words of your Bible to inflict your hate and judgement on others. Your analogy has failed.

Knowledge Transfer:
This post was on parents who help their children become freaks. You brain has failed. Nevertheless, saluting sodomy [the always lifeless and often lethal homosexual monogamy] is like cheering on those who play in; eat from and sleep in unflushed toilets. The INFAMOUS CRIME AGAINST NATURE is defined by one word. That one word is SODOMY. Sodomy is the CRIME AGAINST NATURE. Therefore, Sodomy isn't natural. The incineration of Sodom is evidence and proof of its foul; filthy; fruitless; fatal; and fecal evilness.
Then we have the deadly siblings of sodomy: "rimming"; "fisting"; "bare backing"; "bug chasing"; "pegging"; "felching"; "taking the express"; "circuit parties"; "brown showers"; "golden showers"; "scatting"; "fulsome street parades" etc. etc. etc. Homo's gladly suffer from exponentially higher shares of all sexually transmitted diseases far in excess of their puny shares of the general population. This includes the granddaddy of them all HIV/AIDS a homocentrically inspired pandemic.
Has a pregnancy ever occurred in a rectum - especially a male rectum?

Knowledge Transfer, Christian News Network 6 Comments [8/17/2017 9:42:48 PM]
Fundie Index: 2
Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 130678

[OP of "What if Geoge Washington was alive today?"]



[Pictures of Washington boarding a car finished by the picture of the Charlottesville attack]

Just_Dave_2k, Reddit - r/Physical_Removal 10 Comments [8/17/2017 9:42:39 PM]
Fundie Index: 7
Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 130676

(BF8211)
If you're offended by the roast beef/large hole posts...

Now you know how it feels to be judged, mocked, and rejected over things that are out of your control. While you get triggered over an internet post, imagine how fucking humiliating and degrading it is to get told "you're not tall enough" or (if you even make it that far) "your dicks not big enough" in real life.
Yes- We understand getting fucked repeatedly doesn't stretch you out, that's not how female anatomy works, stop posting the same god damn comment on every b8 post
Yes- We understand roast flaps are genetic, but as long as you're going to reject guys for being short or having a small dick, we're going to keep posting these low-blow posts
No- You aren't some genius biologist just because you told a few people (who are joking, mind you) that the hymen breaks during physical activity as a Kindergartner or that the vagoo doesn't get stretched from sex, stop acting like you are

(knajjd11)
cope, the vagina can get looser permanently:
http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/vagina-health/Pages/vagina-after-childbirth.aspx

(Rotunda_)
Sorry roasties, but Chad thinks your beef curtains are fucking disgusting.

(zielony4)
EXACTLY.
If women claim the circumference is genetic then now they know how it feels for men to be shamed for height and race and penis size.
Since women make fun of our traits, we should continue what we are doing.
Since its so genetic, Chad's on tinder should go and write "swipe left if you are wider than ___cm non aroused."

(anonymous92818312)
Roasties get so offended when their hole is insulted because it's literally the only thing that they have of any worth whatsoever. They know without a vagina they are just useless bags of meat. Downvote this if you're mad.

various incels, r/Incels 10 Comments [8/17/2017 9:42:09 PM]
Fundie Index: 3

Quote# 130675

(BJRgaminggod)
[Suicide Fuel] Sister asked me if I had a girlfriend yet

My sister came over to pick up my niece but before she left she asked me If I had a girlfriend yet. I told her no and she said this: "You need to work on your personality". Why the fuck do I have to be reminded by this bullshit?

(chrzestrzyboczek)
Next time: "No, any luck yet. But if you wanna help, you could you set up a date with any of your friends?" --> and watch her squirm.

(tihml)
Lol, my sister called me ugly all the time when I was a teenager. And now she has the audacity to ask me why I don't have a GF.

(flamethrowup)
Please tell me you don't talk to her anymore.

(tihml)
Only if I accidentaly meet her at my parents place or at family gatherings. Outside of that I ignore her as much as possible without outright telling her to fuck off.

(DarthCuck)
Honestly, I don't even get angry at normies when they say that anymore. It just cracks me up.

(Fattybatman3456)
What the fuck are these dumb sicks talking about? How the hell am I to "work on my personality" do I just change how I am internally? Damn.

(Alia_Harkonnen)
Dont be so negative. Maybe she's just checking to see if you're single cause she wants to hook up. The personality part was just her negging you.

(foreignincel2)
Lmao at the upvotes , GENIUS GENIUS ALIA

(xenodit)
blackpill your sister

(flamethrowup)
Sounds like a great way for him to lose access to his niece lol. If he goes too deep with the red/black pill he'll look like a madman.

(BlackpilledTruecel)
why the fuck would a blackpilled incel care about babysitting some dumb ass kid?

(flamethrowup)
He was watching over his niece so I assumed he cared about her. Nothing wrong with not caring, though.

(Mr__Mercedes__)
LOL at the reddit cucklets
Just remember, the best they'll ever be able to get is a part-time gf who gets drilled by Chad
Being sub8, which they clearly are or they certainly would have better things to do than crashing the LDARing of a group of lonely, miserable incels (just so they can feel better about themselves), is a cuck sentence
Reddit cucklets will never truly be loved by a female

(zZacharyChad)
"Have you seen my face and height? That's why, not my personality, I'm a normal person like everyone else. And don't deny it because you're a woman and you know. No cute chick is giving me the time of day and I'm all set with a homely woman." there's your response right there. If she protests tell her to shut up and stop lying. It's your sis so hopefully you don't have any trouble telling her that.

(PM_ME_STRIPPERS)
My sister doesnt even have to ask, heck none of my family need to ask because they all know im a subhuman virgin
Jesus christ tho, i always though the " work on your personality" was mostly a normie thing to say on the INTERNET although i guess its not surprising that the normies say this type of shit outside of the internet too.

(Wings4)
Ask her if she's still a virgin (assuming not married). If she isn't, call her out for being a slut.

(BJRgaminggod)
She's not a virgin, I help take care of her daughter as she cucks her military husband that has flown to Korea

(faggaren)
Poor guy

(vargstrike)
How dare her! That pisses me off. She should be thankful for you. Sounds like a typical roastie whore. They are the most thankless cunts on the planet.

(THE_IRON_BRONY)
Tell him.

various incels, r/Incels 3 Comments [8/17/2017 9:42:03 PM]
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Quote# 130674

The secular left in Spain dug up and mocked the corpses of murdered nuns. This won't end with statues.

Austin Rose, Twitter 3 Comments [8/17/2017 9:41:45 PM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 130673

Would you want your parents to watch you as you watch the nudity and violence depicted on ‘Game of Thrones’? Your heavenly Father sees all that you see.

Jim Denison, Charisma News 18 Comments [8/17/2017 9:41:32 PM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 130672

Pastor Logan Robertson, an independent Baptist preacher from Auckland, New Zealand, said in a recent sermon that he would be glad to support two gay people getting married… as long as they were shot at the altar.

The short clip of the Westcity Bible Baptist Church sermon was posted online in late July but got more attention after the New Zealand Herald covered it today.

Someone just emailed me the other day about our church. I [believe] he lives in Auckland. He’s like, “What’s your view on homo marriage?”

I was like, “My view on homo marriage is that the Bible never mentions it, so I’m not against them getting married as long as a bullet goes through their head the moment they kiss.”

Because that’s what it talks about. Not homo marriage, but homo death. There’s no such thing as homo marriage….

That’s what should happen. Now we’ve got Christians that would rather side with them — side with their cute little fag cousin or brother or whoever it is — than with Christians, than actually preach against it.

The love of Christ + a hatred of LGBT people = This sermon.

To be sure, many Christians have already condemned his hateful rhetoric. But make no mistake Robertson feels fully justified in saying this sort of thing because he thinks it’s inspired by the Bible.

When contacted by the Herald tonight, Robertson said he did not deny his words were hate speech.

“Of course it is. Does it sound like hate speech to you?” he said. “If the world thinks that’s hate speech then that’s fine.”
When radical Muslims do it, it’s terrorism. But when he does it, it’s religious freedom…
Just like Pastor Steven Anderson and Theodore Shoebat, Robertson reiterated that he wasn’t calling on anyone to kill gay people — that should be the government’s job in his mind — but he also wasn’t about to take responsibility if anyone acts his message.

“It’s got nothing to do with me — they could read that verse in the Bible.

“I’m not inciting vigilantes … I believe it’s the Government’s job.”

This isn’t Robertson’s first time in the news. In 2014, he told a gay Christian author, “I pray that you will commit suicide.” When a reporter (who also happened to be gay) asked him for clarification, Robertson said once again that the man should kill himself.

It’s not often you see a video when the hateful commenters seem tamer than the person in front of the camera, but leave it to a Baptist pastor to make that happen.

Logan Robertson, Patheos 3 Comments [8/17/2017 9:41:20 PM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom