Quote# 129072

Man doing his duty is, in actuality, the accomplishment of all that is inherent within man, that is, that which is possible for man. It is then that his duty is fulfilled. The defects of man during man’s service are gradually reduced through progressive experience and the process of his experience of judgment; they do not hinder or affect man’s duty. Those who cease to serve or yield and fall back in fear of the defects that may exist in service are the most cowardly of all men. If man cannot express what he ought to express during service or achieve what is inherently possible for him, and instead fools about and goes through the motions, he has lost the function that a created being should have. This kind of man is considered a mediocre nonentity and useless waste of space; how can one such as this be dignified with the title of a created being?

If man fails to fulfill his duty, he ought to feel guilt and indebtedness; he ought to despise his weakness and uselessness, his rebelliousness and corruptness, and moreover, ought to sacrifice his life and blood for God. Only then is he a created being who truly loves God, and only such kind of man is worthy of enjoying the blessings and promise of God, and of being made perfect by Him. And what of the majority of you? How do you treat the God who lives among you? How have you done your duty before Him? Have you done all you were called upon to do, even at the expense of your own life? What have you sacrificed?

Church of Almighty God, Church of Almighty God 10 Comments [7/11/2017 6:58:22 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 129062

I know. I want to go to Thailand and buy a Thai wife; except she won't really be my wife just a house slave. I'd have her do all my chores and have sex with her, rape her and force her to stay in the house, she would not be allowed to leave. women are supposed to stay in a man's house while he is out working and do his chores because it wastes a man's time. Men need to work on harder things women are not capable of doing.

shortbaldaspiekv, /r/incels 24 Comments [7/11/2017 6:56:54 AM]
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Submitted By: Menomaru

Quote# 129059

(in answer to the question 'what specific steps have you taken to assess the risks of mistakes or lies in the NT accounts of both miracles and the words attributed to Jesus?')



Well firstly there is the diagnosis and prescription of the human condition in general and personally.

The prescription is Love of the personal God. The diagnosis is failure of love in general and alienation in general and personally.
How do we check that for mistake or lies? Well one can run the diagnosis past alternative prescriptions to sorting out the general impression that things aren't ''fully the ticket.''...after all what are laws for?

which we can categorise as 1) techniques 2) Commandment following 3) moral irrealism.

The first are not comprehensive since at the very least they don't recognise the depth of the diagnosis Christianity makes in fact to rely on them is to discount totally the prescription. Techniques may help but only at the periphery of needs.

Secondly, commandment following.... recognised need for improvement but commandment following could just mean bodily animation to effect ritual. While that may be of help it is only peripheral.

Finally Moral irrealism. This automatically refutes that anything is amiss and has no actual prescription.

As far as I can see such comparisons are the only way to gauge mistake and lie level in the NT.

No to the rest of the text does it read like reportage. Well yes. That has been analysed by people like former atheist CS Lewis.
we can only again hold these up to other interpretations many of which date much longer after the evnt than the last written part of the NT.

Did Jesus exist Yes.

Can we pick out the miracles from the non miraculous? Difficult given the existence of believing communities so quickly afterwards and then only if one uses a certain philosophy which is a different thing. Then we are into comparison of philosophies.

All in all then. The important focus is on Jesus diagnosis and prescription that he himself and his acts at the end are that prescription.



Questions to Christians, Religion and Ethics 7 Comments [7/11/2017 6:53:19 AM]
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Submitted By: Nearly Sane

Quote# 129058

In the manosphere, there are many men who say, "I try to leave women better than I found them." This idea was debunked by Heartiste. Women don't age well, and having sex with men and then breaking up with them tends to take a toll on them. Even if they enjoy the experience, that will just produce wistfulness later, when they're post-wall and stuck with a guy who doesn't turn them on as much.

I'm not aware that homosexual relationships work under the same premise as a heterosexual marriage, that the cost of enjoying the kitten phase is that you have to take care of the grown cat. (As Victor Pride writes, "It's a tradeoff, she gives you her good years and you put up with her in her bad years. Never take a woman already in her bad years.")

People err in thinking that homosexual relationships or pederastic relationships operate according to the same principles as straight relationships. The lack of potential to have kids is a key difference. Even though Roosh seems to be cutting ties with me at this point, I have to acknowledge that he was smart to point out during Milogate that gays and straights are indeed different, and that we shouldn't hold them both to the same standards in their relationships. Their needs are different, their culture is different, their relationship dynamics are different, etc.

It probably is a lot more possible for a man-boy relationship to leave the boy better off, because his time hasn't been wasted the way that a girl's time is wasted during her years of peak fertility and beauty if a man pumps her and dumps her. I think we should call out the antis when they assume that boys are just like girls, and that they have the same vulnerabilities and need to be protected in the same way that a father would guard his maiden daughter's virtue. That's some politically correct nonsense.

Lysander, BoyChat 5 Comments [7/11/2017 6:51:33 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 129057

[Transgender worshippers in the Church of England could be given church services to celebrate their new identity, Telegraph]

Wickedness remains wickedness no matter how you present it, these ones shall not inherit the kingdom of God, unless they repent and turn from their sin. This confirms that the Church of England is not Christian.

I've got some real bad news for anyone who claims to be a Christian and is or supports the sodomites, catamites and lesbians, who supports same sex marriage, who supports the wicked mardi gras parade......that news is this..... YOU are NOT a CHRISTIAN but a reprobate.

[Sorry for not linking to individual comment, I don't know how with the Telegraph]

Richard Merrel, Telegraph comments section 12 Comments [7/11/2017 6:50:11 AM]
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Quote# 129097

Good God the atheist community has devolved to such cancer. Defending this pro gender-fluid, attack helicopter nonsense."What about people born with two sets of genitalia?" What about people born missing an arm or with an extra toe? Aberrations do not disprove the rule.

People dealing with transgenderism issues are mentally ill. It's been proven successfully that they respond well to treatment with antipsychotics. Imagine someone coming to a doctor and asking to have a healthy leg removed. Madness, right? But if it involves chopping off a penis it's perfectly OK! Nonsense. Trans people and homosexuals are statistically at a much higher risk of mental illness both before and even after reassignment. Many trans people end up regretting their surgeries. Very telling that there are underlying issues not being resolved here. "Oh well" you say, "that's because they're so mistreated and baa baa baaaaa..." Oh really? The weekly pride parades they fling (complete with flapping genitals in children's faces, very progressive) and endless laws that pass in their favor isn't good enough, is it? It couldn't possibly have anything to do with their degenerate, sex and drug fueled lifestyles could it? What about the man expressing a healthy pride in his nation or advocating a sensible background checking system for immigrants continually being accused of being a Nazi, I wonder what that does to mental health?

Transsexualism is unnatural and repulsive. Tolerance of things that are disgusting and dangerous is not a virtue.

But hey, feel free to prove me wrong. If changing one's gender really is no big deal, why don't you do it? You'd be just as happy with a vagina as you are with a penis, right? You'd feel exactly the same. There's no difference. Hell, you don't even need to wear a dress or anything. Just chop your cock off. No biggie. Need funding? Go ahead and challenge the right to fund it, I guaran-fucking-tee you'll make the money overnight as they laugh at your dumb ass.

Dr. Paul R. McHugh, FSTDT 38 Comments [7/10/2017 10:39:10 PM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 129096

Religious Right activist and former Colorado state legislator Gordon Klingenschmitt declared on his “Pray In Jesus Name” program last week that Americans would not need healthcare if this nation would simply stop funding Planned Parenthood because, if we do so, “God will heal your diseases.”

After declaring that Democrats and Republicans in Congress who are fighting to retain government support for Planned Parenthood “are being influenced by a demonic spirit because they want to kill children with your taxpayer dollars,” Klingenschmitt cited a passage from Exodus:

"If you listen carefully to the Lord your God and do what is right in his eyes, if you pay attention to his commands and keep all his decrees, I will not bring on you any of the diseases I brought on the Egyptians, for I am the Lord, who heals you."

“You know what the solution to America’s healthcare crisis is?” Klingenschmitt asked. “Obey the Ten Commandments, stop funding abortion, stop funding child killing and God will heal your diseases, America. The supernatural blessing of healing is available if we stop working with the demonic spirit of murder.”

Klingenschmitt proclaimed that if America were to repent for the sin of abortion, then “we would receive [God’s] healing and wouldn’t need to rely on socialist healthcare.”

Gordon Klingenschmitt, Right Wing Watch 21 Comments [7/10/2017 10:39:06 PM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 129095

This lady is saying that green slime is evil.
https://youtu.be/2ncKN4Pn9FI?t=378

Three Hearts Church, youtube 12 Comments [7/10/2017 10:39:02 PM]
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Quote# 129094

[Commenting under "The Church of England has called on the government to ban conversion therapy and has condemned the practice, which aims to change sexual orientation, as unethical and potentially harmful."]

@kizmaus:
@forgive_the_sinner:
So why would they want to purposefully change someone's sexual orientation? What the fuck is wrong with this piece of shit world?

Bullshit like makes me wish hard right lunatics like Hitler had won ww2.

Retards, such liberal nonsense will trigger wars far more disgusting than ww1 and ww2 combined. But maybe that is for the best.

you do realise that the persecution of gay people by the nazis was a thing, right? they were sent to concentration camps. your comment doesn't make much sense at all.


If today's retarded society continues to push such nonsense agendas like the "come and get transformed into homosexual, because it's the new liberal fad", the concentration camps will open up again. Do i need to draw a cute picture to help you understand this?

forgive_the_sinner, Reddit - r/WorldNews 18 Comments [7/10/2017 10:38:58 PM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 129093

herie Beltram sermon on "Demonic Toys" in the End Times. The things you have or take into your home can open doors to satan and his minions. Some of the things discussed in this short message are: demons, evil spirits, colors, eyes, horns, scales, symbols, witches, sorcery, spells, curses, testimonies of torment from evil toys, illuminati, dna, nephilim, raphaim, baphomet, mythology, aliens, Star Wars, Harry Potter and Disney.

Oh please clean house and throw this stuff out. God bless you guys

Three Hearts Church, youtube 16 Comments [7/10/2017 10:38:53 PM]
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Quote# 129092

Be holy is not a suggestion its a Command

Holy** God wants a church with no wrinkle or blemish. We must always examine our selves! God hates sin! The day of judgement is going to be Gods day of sorrow, Do you know why? That’s the day God will send those who aren’t living A Holy life to the pit…think about it brothers and sisters. I love my family to and they had there struggles and hard moments of sadness but there lukewarm… Emotions and what you been through won’t matter even if you were a widow or a single mom your whole life with struggles. I pray for my family and all of y'all, but we must understand just “believing” in God is not going to cut it.. When YOU believe in God then that means you know Gods word and you know that we MUST LIVE BY it.. but any one can say “yea I believe in Jesus.” But do you love him? Would you die for him? Would you obey his word no matter what even if you don’t like it? Brothers and sisters Do you even know how merciful God has been towards us? Its only right we give our life to him 100000% and let him move in our life! Remove any thing that’s not Holy out of your life and obey Gods word people.. don’t even keep your pinky into the world. Do you have an ear to hear?
“Sanctify yourselves therefore, and be ye holy: for I am the Lord your God.”
??Leviticus? ?20:7? -
“Speak unto all the congregation of the children of Israel, and say unto them, Ye shall be holy: for I the Lord your God am holy.”
??Leviticus? ?19:2?
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“According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:”
??Ephesians? ?1:4?
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“But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation; Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.”
??1 Peter? ?1:15-16?
#AllGloryToGod

intimacy-with-jesus, Tumblr 11 Comments [7/10/2017 10:38:47 PM]
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Submitted By: Thanos6

Quote# 129084

Did BoyChat ever consider a mission statement? A mission statement to be posted in bold up-top the page?

To give clarity, and objectivity to the site...

I would suggest that the site does not exists to encourage abuse, but rather prevent it, to open up dialogue, to challenge present day scientific assumptions, and nativity...

To discount the narrative that intimacy, and erotic pleasures before 16 should be criminal, or is psychologically traumatizing, abusive, and evil...

That excessive humiliation, and over the top "scandal", with brutal law enforcement intervention at the bequest of "mental Health" IS the sick psychosis, and perversion that destroys lives...

That Universities cherry pick in the realm of political correctness, than make factual and scientific whatever makes them shine the most, thus affording them the monies to pursue incorrect paths in "absolute virtue" of falsehoods.

Anyway, just thought it be nice to have a clear idea of what the mandate is here at BChat, so as to be open and as transparent in the logic, science, testimonials, and proof that present day justice is basically ignoring making them the illegal and criminal demons... and here's why...

Anyway just a thought, a "mission statement" for BoyChat 25 years proud!

Jessy, BoyChat 7 Comments [7/10/2017 9:56:07 AM]
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Quote# 129077

Why can't normies understand the simple truth behind incels' personalities?

Our shitty personalities and shitty outlook on life stem from being treated like garbage for our entire lives. We aren't single because of our personalities. We are single because we are ugly. Our personalities are simply a byproduct of the way we've been treated due to our ugliness. Why can't you extend the concept of nurture over nature to us incels? It's because you want to believe that we are inherently bad people and not victims of YOUR actions.

Incelcaliphate, /r/incels 25 Comments [7/10/2017 2:10:53 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 129073

No matter what God asks of you, you should just give it your all. God hopes that you show your loyalty to God to the very end before Him, and as long as you can see God’s gratified smile upon His throne, even if it is the time of your death, you should be able to laugh and smile when you close your eyes. You must do your duty for God to the very end during your time on earth.

In the past, Peter was crucified upside down for God; however, you should satisfy God in the end, and exhaust all of your energy for God. What can a creature do for God? So you should give yourself to the mercy of God sooner rather than later. As long as God is happy and pleased, then let Him do whatever He wants. What right do men have to complain?

Church of Almighty God, Church of Almighty God 17 Comments [7/10/2017 2:09:09 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 129068

I'm not convinced it's possible that we can stray any further from objective reality when a truth so axiomatic is debated in public.



nontolerantman, Twitter 61 Comments [7/10/2017 12:53:05 AM]
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Quote# 129067

An imam who sexually touched four young girls during Quran lessons at a mosque has been jailed for 13 years.

Mohammed Haji Saddique, 81, would call the pupils to sit next to him and read in Arabic from the Muslim holy book.

He sexually touched the girls in front of his class and slapped students repeatedly if they made mistakes during lessons.

Cardiff Crown Court heard Saddique - of Cyncoed, Cardiff - had metal and wooden sticks, which he used to poke the children as they studied.

Saddique, who taught at the Madina Mosque in Cardiff for more than 30 years, was convicted of the offences following a trial.

A jury found him guilty of 14 offences - six indecent assaults and eight sexual assaults - that took place between 1996 and 2006.

Judge Stephen Hopkins QC jailed Saddique for 13 years and ordered him to register as a sex offender indefinitely.

"All four complainants were very brave indeed in overcoming not only personal but cultural barriers which they faced in making formal complaints and giving evidence against you," the judge said.

"There is a darker, deviant side to you which this trial has exposed. This was a gross breach of trust - parents sending their young, female children to be taught the Quran by you."

Saddique, who insisted the allegations were a conspiracy by other members of the mosque, has "no idea" of the harm caused by his actions, the judge said.

The court heard Saddique was born in Hong Kong and moved to Pakistan before coming to the UK in 1967, eventually settling in Cardiff.

He was a member of the Madina Mosque and was involved in running it, including as a treasurer and teaching Q studies to primary school pupils.

Classes took place four times per week after school and pupils referred to the imam as 'Uncle Saddique' as a mark of respect, the court heard.

"You would attempt to maintain discipline and concentration by tapping or slapping the child sitting next to you who didn't read correctly," the judge said.

"Every time one of these small children made a mistake you would slap them until they got it right and slap them for every mistake they made."

Police first launched an investigation in 2006 following complaints by two girls but Saddique denied any wrongdoing.

The investigation was restarted in 2016 after two other girls came forward.

Saddique would touch the girls under their traditional loose-fitting clothing during his lessons, and rub them against his groin and legs.

In victim impact statements read to the court, the girls, now in their 20s, spoke of the lasting impact of Saddique's offending.

Speaking of one, the judge said: "It has put her off religion, she deliberately doesn't own a Quran.

"[For her] the ethos of going to the mosque at any time is that when you are there, God is protecting you.

"Her idea was shattered because you abused her when she was reading from the holy book."

Another victim said giving evidence went against "the culture and ethos of those who follow the Islamic faith" and she feared there would be consequences for Saddique's conviction.

Representing Saddique, Caroline Rees described her client as a "frail and unwell" great-grandfather who was held in high esteem by his family and community.

"This is a man of 81 whose life expectancy is not good given his health and age," she added.

The judge also made Saddique the subject of a sexual harm prevention order.

Detective Chief Inspector Rob Cronick, of South Wales Police, said: "As a result of the verdict and today's sentence I believe there may be members of the community who may now feel confident enough to speak to the police or our support agencies."

He urged anyone affected to call the NSPCC on 0808 800 5000, or the force on 101 quoting reference number 1600442164.

Mohammed Haji Saddique, The Independent 23 Comments [7/10/2017 12:38:33 AM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 129066

Bread used to celebrate the Eucharist during Roman Catholic Mass must not be gluten-free - although it may be made from genetically modified organisms, the Vatican has ruled.

In a letter to bishops, Cardinal Robert Sarah said the bread can be low-gluten.

But he said there must be enough protein in the wheat to make it without additives.

The new rules are needed because the bread is now sold in supermarkets and on the internet, the cardinal said.

Roman Catholics believe bread and wine served at the Eucharist are converted into the body and blood of Christ through a process known as transubstantiation.

The wine used must also be "natural, from the fruit of the grape, pure and incorrupt, not mixed with other substances", said Cardinal Robert Sarah of the Vatican's Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments.

The ruling was issued at the request of Pope Francis, the letter said.

There are about 1.2 billion Roman Catholics around the world.

Catholic Church, BBC News 18 Comments [7/10/2017 12:38:27 AM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 129065

The Bible teaches that the Earth is stationary and immovable at the center of a "small" universe with the sun, moon, and stars going around it every day. All observational and experimental evidence -- and non-occult math, i.e., true science -- supports the Bible teaching.

Bonnie Halls, FixedEarth 23 Comments [7/10/2017 12:38:19 AM]
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Quote# 129064

It is also striking to notice that atheist believers (Atheism is also a religion by the way) who believe in Dark Matter and Dark Energy are so worried and make such a big fuss of inoffensive religious believers who happen to believe that the Earth was created 6,000 years ago.

Shameless bloodsucking "scientists" are telling a lot of lies about nutrition. They always refuse to investigate the effect of basic simple diets like eating without cooking, like all the animal are eating. But they have credibility, because they use science as PR, even though they are not actually practicing science.

Arguably, a religious society can be much better than the current atheist and materialistic society. Because the religious people have some moral values, while the current society is always teaching you to be more selfish and greedy and to take advantage of others. Umar II and the Islamic Golden Age stand as a good proof for that.

Sometimes I prefer to live between religious people who have some limits instead of keeping to be part of this society that is going down spiraling into more and more greed, corruption and abuse - towards disintegration. Being an Amish farmer with weird beliefs is actually much safer and healthier than to be part of this economic system where you are never good enough and therefore you have to live a life in misery and humiliation "for good (and scientific) reasons".

In any case, the question remains: if the non-religious people are so smart then why the secular society is such a big disaster? Where is the reason and the logic when the scientific and "rational" people have no problem with the perpetual situation of increasing the taxes for the poor and reducing the taxes for the rich?

I want to see the scientific people getting together and building a functional and fair society. They are clearly incapable to do that, so where is their reason, logic and intelligence? Intelligence means being able to solve problems, therefore they are lacking intelligence, logic and reason.

How can the scientific community have credibility when it is actually so corrupt?

The catastrophic results of their actions show that the secular and the scientific people are actually not using reason and logic.

Whatever system (religious or not, weird or not) that helps the people to have a decent life without hurting others is actually more logic and reasonable and intelligent than the current system that locks the poor people into poverty and confusion (with the help and participation of the "scientists").

Blackspoon, Ars Technica 22 Comments [7/10/2017 12:38:13 AM]
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Submitted By: zyr

Quote# 129046

These are foundational creation truths which cannot be separated!! On this site, you will find the facts in over 100 different links. The Levitating Globe, shown on the left, has an electromagnet and computerized sensor hidden in its display stand which causes the Earth to levitate motionless in the air. Could God have engineered something like that for the real Earth? The Bible and all real evidence confirm that this is precisely what he did, and indeed:
The Earth is not rotating...nor is it going around the sun.

Today’s cosmology fulfills an anti-Bible religious plan disguised as "science". The whole scheme from Copernicanism to Big Bangism is a factless lie. Those lies have planted the Truth-killing virus of evolutionism in every aspect of man’s "knowledge" about the Universe, the Earth, and Himself. Take your time. Check it all out. Decide for yourself.

Bonnie Hall, FixedEarth 19 Comments [7/9/2017 7:12:51 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 129044

I have been cultivating Falun Dafa for more than 20 years and have gradually reached a state of enlightenment. My thoughts are connected with my bodies in other dimensions, which means that I can travel through different times and spaces. I am writing down what I saw when I traveled to a world in another dimension.

A local practitioner has been collaborating with me on Dafa projects. However, due to his tight work schedule and the birth of his child, he slacked off in cultivation and started to have very bad asthma symptoms.

I invited him over to my apartment, and for several days in a row, we studied Master’s teachings and did the exercises together. I helped him search inside himself. His symptoms improved, but did not go away completely.

After he fell asleep one night, I continued sending forth righteous thoughts. In a tranquil state, I could see his past lives. During a time in prehistory, he was the sea god, the same one described in Western mythology. He was the king of the oceans. The statues under the oceans were of mermen holding tridents. The offerings they displayed in front of their sea god were large white pearls inside shells. As I was observing the pearls, the ocean water suddenly lit up, and I could see shiny particles lining up, leading me towards a gate to another dimension.

In the other dimension there were three suns in the sky. When the temperature rose, the suns merged into one that radiated gentle, warm light.

I also saw several prosperous cities and towns. The people wore garments that resembled the Bohemian style in central Europe. The adult males were clothed in white fabric, with olive branches on their head that represented their social status. Females were dressed in red and gold, and they pulled their hair up. Young girls had their hair down and decorated with white lilies.

The knights took me to a group of buildings made of white jade stones. Different colored roses were blooming, and the air was filled with a pleasant fragrance. There were huge white pillars decorated with gold engravings in the main lobby. The ceilings were decorated in the same style. A rectangular water fountain took me through the main lobby to the golden royal throne. I saw white pearls on top of the water fountain. By the royal throne were 12 smaller seats. The furnishings were exceptionally rich and luxurious, but the vast palace was empty and quiet.

Outside there were a variety of landscapes with flowers and trees, as well as different architectural structures. I came to a round white building called the Crystal Palace, which was surrounded by many pillars. The inside of the palace was all crystals. The ceilings were transparent, and inlaid in the floor was a huge red rose in full bloom. Sitting south and facing north was a tall portrait of my fellow practitioner, opening up a Falun Gong banner in Tiananmen Square. He had a calm smile on his face and his eyes looked firm and fearless.

Hanging on the walls of the palace were portraits of this practitioner’s different images in his different lifetimes. One of the pictures showed him as the sea god holding a trident.

Light shone down on me in the center of the hall from the transparent dome. Suddenly, stars, galaxies and celestial bodies appeared in the center of the hall around me, as if I had entered the vast universe. In the center of the celestial body was a tiny galaxy surrounded by golden light—that was the small universe of our planet Earth.

Outside the Crystal Palace, a large number of divine warriors in several groups in close formation assembled in the vast grasslands. The divine warriors were dressed in leather armor, helmets, and boots, like those of ancient Rome. In front were nine dragon knights with huge dragon beasts by their sides, followed by warriors holding large shields, javelins, daggers, and other types of weapons.

On either side of the assembled warriors were two knights on divine horses with bears in front of them and centaurs behind them. A man wearing a golden olive branch came to me. Placing his right hand on his chest, he greeted me.

“Dear Fa-rectifying Dafa Disciple, thank you for coming to our Rose Country, and thank you for helping our king, your fellow practitioner. We hope you will convey our thoughts to him, our great king, and tell him that we miss him dearly. Please take this letter to him. And please accept our most heartfelt gratitude!”

Respectfully, I took the scroll sealed with a red rose insignia. The man retreated into the assembly, and the divine warriors once again bowed to me.

The warriors then began to pound out a rhythm with their swords and shields. The booming sound was like human heartbeats or brave soldiers shouting in the battlefield. The warriors' eyes had a firm and fearless look, which reminded me of how my fellow practitioner looked when he stood in Tiananmen Square with the banner in his hands.

Gradually, the heavenly scene started to blur and the sounds faded. For a long time, my heart was racing and I could not calm down.

Coming out of tranquility, I shared with my fellow practitioner what I’d experienced in the kingdom of the Rose Country. I relayed to him what I had read on the scroll.

The letter said:

Dear Honorable King,

You have left us and lived in the secular world for billions of years. We all miss you dearly. Although we cannot be with you, our love for you has not changed, but has only grown deeper.

My King, you are the mightiest because you dare to sacrifice yourself to safeguard justice for the universe; you are the most honorable because you have drained yourself for the everlasting happiness of our world.

As the universe is emerging from the old, you have worked endlessly to save our world and our lives. We will live and die with you till the end.

With love,

Your Heavenly Family

My fellow practitioner’s eyes filled with tears. He regretted not cultivating diligently. Ever since then, we’ve helped each other to follow Master’s teachings and cultivated together. He soon broke through the old forces’ arrangements and returned to cultivating diligently.

Unknown author, Minghui 19 Comments [7/8/2017 11:09:44 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 129043

My daughter was two-years-old in the winter of 2004, and everyone said she was a pretty girl.

I noticed one day that her right eye was red when she woke up from a nap, and there was a white dot under the iris. I thought there was some discharge, so I rubbed her eye and tried to remove it. But the dot remained.

I realized there was a problem, but it was late in the day, so my husband and I took her to see a doctor the following day.

She was diagnosed with keratitis (inflammation of the cornea of the eye). We then spent two days going to other hospitals but got the same diagnosis. Doctors said it could reoccur after an infection and that the whole eyeball could turn white. It was incurable because there were no nerves there, and no medication could reach the area.

My husband and I were shocked and saddened!

Although I had been practicing Falun Dafa for seven years, my understanding of Dafa's teachings was not solid. I applied medication and ointment to my daughter's eye for six months, but nothing worked. My heart broke whenever I saw her eye.

One day in the summer of 2005, I picked my daughter up from daycare. She was eating a fried doughnut twist. I felt very sad about the problem with her eye and then thought of Master Li (the founder of Falun Dafa), closed my eyes, and said: “Master, please help us. Only you can help.”

Then my daughter said, “Mom, it’s Master!”

I opened my eyes immediately and asked, “What did you say?”

“Mom, it’s Master!”

“Where?” I asked.

“There.” My daughter pointed to my left shoulder.

I did not dare to look, as I felt I wasn't worthy of seeing him. I had asked Master for help before when my daughter was in trouble, and Master took care of her. I felt ashamed but excited. I knew there was hope that my daughter's eye would be healed.

When my daughter opened her eyes the next morning, I saw they were clear and pretty with no sign of the keratitis. Although I had expected a change, I was still surprised at the reality. I could not express my gratitude with words!

Later, I talked to my husband. He did not say anything, but I could see he was thankful. He was against my cultivation because Falun Dafa practitioners are severely persecuted in China.

My daughter is 14 now, healthy, and pretty. She knew it was Master who gave her beautiful bright eyes.

She always said: “Fortunately Master has saved me. Otherwise, would I not be blind?”

Thank you, Master.

Unknown author, Minghui 9 Comments [7/8/2017 11:09:32 PM]
Fundie Index: 4
Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 129038

When a boy has a cold his body makes him sneeze, the cold is blown out of the body by way of mucus goo that has captured the bacterial intruders...

When a boy is sad he gets teary eyed, anxiety is apparent, and a certain amount of self confidence is lost, and vulnerability is exposed...

When a boy is scared...

When a boy tired...

When a boy is determined, he...

BUT when a boy is horny, sexually desirous... Society doesn't know! We shut that entire huge part right down... It doesn't exist... it's dirty, shameful, and unbecoming of a proper boy...

Imagine how ignorant, cruel, and barbaric that is... Society just simply shuts it down, shames it to death, and punishes like "murder" any friend that would have entertained it's powerful human trait.

It's frankly astonishing, i know i'm not telling you anything you didn't already know... but seriously, the fundamental physiological
hardening penis asking/craving for stimulus, affection, and satisfaction just wished away by a cruel but very "proper" society instructed by a great school of academia and justice.

When you truly think about it... How impossible is it that we sit where we are in this day 'n' age... that loving young men that shared in passion sit in prison, rotting in shame while Cantor and the like, dribble and spew toxic voodoo and irreversible damage.

Jessy, BoyChat 15 Comments [7/8/2017 11:08:09 PM]
Fundie Index: 8

Quote# 129037

International BoyLove Day has been established to give due honor and recognition to current and former loved boys who, in their quest for the love and acceptance they could find nowhere else, chose to defy the artificial and malicious rules that forbade such love. It also honors those kind, caring, and courageous older males - some who are still adolescents themselves - who have given over their lives to the love, nurture, and mentoring of boys.

These brave boys and their older friends have committed themselves to this time honored and beneficial tradition in the face of suspicion, opposition, and hate from that portion of today's society who are willfully ignorant, and who neither understand nor appreciate boys who desire and seek after this love, or the heroic older males who try to fill their need.

IBLD, IBLD 16 Comments [7/8/2017 11:07:55 PM]
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Quote# 129036

Responsible boylove is a relationship between a boy who has a desire for a close and intimate friendship with an older male, and an older boy or man whose love for that boy encompasses enjoyment of the boy's companionship and a desire to provide a mentoring and nurturing environment. The nature, vitality, and duration of the relationship, as well as the extent of nurturing and mentoring, are determined by mutual consent, with the boy's wishes taking precedence. The relationship also includes a definite pedosexual attraction on the part of the older, and may include a desire for sexual experimentation, exploration, play, and gratification on the part of the younger. It is, however, a fundamental tenet of responsible boylove that any physical expression of sexuality is only acceptable with the age appropriate understanding, encouragement, and consent of the boy involved. However, both parties must also carefully take into consideration that any such physical expressions, no matter how completely consensual, are considered a criminal act under the present legal systems in most of the world.

Common misconceptions:

Responsible boylove does not include, support, nor in any way condone non-consensual sexual activity. It does not try to excuse or justify such things as attempts to seduce an obviously unwilling boy, molestation, or predation in any form. Those who subscribe to the responsible model of boylove are as appalled by such crimes as anyone else; indeed, perhaps more so, because of their love for all boys, and the pain they feel when one of them is molested, raped, or murdered. The public and the media seem to know only one word when there is sexual contact between a boy and an older male, the ugly and pejorative label of "pedophile." But the current use of that term is a total corruption of the original meaning, it is a malicious creation of misguided academics, radical religionists, malignant feminists, and prejudiced politicians, and as such is considered unacceptable by a large percentage of boylovers.

SafeHaven, SaveHaven 8 Comments [7/8/2017 11:07:49 PM]
Fundie Index: 7