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Jenny Ondioline:
Your problem Royce is that you want the decisions about who gets to form romantic relationships to be determined not by the governments who can determine if someone or something is being taken advantage of or abused, but by yourself based on nothing more than what your holy book tells you.
An incestuous relationship is vile to me because it blurs the areas between romantic love and nurturing love. If both parties are of consenting age there's nothing I or anyone else can do about it taking place. It doesn't mean I like it. And you could take a page from this - you can disapprove but still recognize that it's none of your business. I'm not overly concerned with this one because people aren't lining up to marry their mothers.
Who am I to say the children are being abused and are not consenting? Nobody, but I don't have to be. I point to the law that says a child can't consent until a legal age. At what point does a child stop being a child? Where the law says so. The line needs to be clearly drawn. What evidence is it you're looking for here? It's the law. Children need to be protected from predators just as animals do.
Different nations have different ages defining age of consent - some are lower than others and I might not like that but the law is the law. If enough people can make a case, in some of those countries the law gets changed. That's the best we can do.
See, Royce? No contradiction. Just thought out, reasoned words. Now how about you tell ME why two adult people of the same sex shouldn't legally enter into a romantic relationship. Please tell me who they are hurting. Please tell me where the abuse lies. Please tell me why you should be the one we all listen to to get it stopped.
Royce E. Van Blaricome:
LOL. There's that faux omniscience again! Or are you just practicing psychology without a license? Tell ya what, need time I wanna know what my problem is, just rest easy and know I'll rely on God who can actually tell me what it is because He knows!
Of course it's easier for you to divert from answering the questions by focusing on me being the problem instead of yourself. No surprise there. But you are spot on right when you say I let God's Holy inerrant, infallible, and timeless Word of God make my decisions for me.
Who are YOU to say an incestuous relationship blurs the areas between romantic love and nurturing love? Who appointed you God of the Universe and Omniscient to say that?
"If both parties are of consenting age there's nothing I or anyone else can do about it taking place. It doesn't mean I like it."
Now you know why I thanked you for showing that the Mother & Son should be allowed to marry. And that you lied when you said, "I don't support a mother and son incestuous relationship". Doing nothing to stop and prevent the incestuous relationship IS supporting it. Any good soldier knows that when you do nothing to prevent the advancing of the enemy you ARE aiding and abetting the enemy. So, once again, thanks for publicly showing that you do support incestuous relationships. And I imagine the other things I listed that were deleted as well.
"And you could take a page from this - you can disapprove but still recognize that it's none of your business."
What a hateful and totally unloving thing to say!! But hey, again, thanks for showing everyone just how hateful and unloving you are. That you would standby and do nothing while holding to an empty claim that it's none of your business. How pathetic.
"I'm not overly concerned with this one because people aren't lining up to marry their mothers."
Wrong! I just gave you the names of one who is and of a father/son marriage too. But, again, I thank you for putting your total selfishness on such a display.
"I point to the law that says a child can't consent until a legal age. At what point does a child stop being a child? Where the law says so."
Thank you for publicly displaying your acceptance and support for the two teachers who preyed on 13yo boys because it was LEGAL to do so. Thank you for publicly showing that if the age is changed to 10 or 9 or 8 or done away with, you're gonna be just fine with that because it's the LAW.
And, most of all, thank you for showing that your morality is contingent upon the will of the majority and whatever laws can be passed. What a grand witness and testimony for a superb reason to die to self and surrender to Christ and place your trust in Almighty God!!!
"Children need to be protected from predators just as animals do."
Thank you for equating children to animals. That explains a lot. I'd love to hear how you're gonna protect the bunnies from the coyotes, deer from the cougars, elk from the wolves, impalas from the lions, seals from the polar bears, and all animals from humans. That oughtta be a grand plan! LOL
"Different nations have different ages defining age of consent - some are lower than others and I might not like that but the law is the law."
There ya go again. What an utterly bankrupt morality.
"If enough people can make a case, in some of those countries the law gets changed. That's the best we can do."
Wait a minute, it's the Law! You said it's ok if it's the Law! Why bother trying to change it? In fact, why not just go back to the days when you weren't allowed to vote or hold certain public offices? After all, it was the LAW!! Why not follow the Law when Blacks weren't considered fully human or interracial marriage wasn't allowed? Do you support the Law or not?? Do you follow the Law or not? Ya need to make up your mind.
And I don't know who the "we" is that you refer to but it certainly does NOT include me or any other Christians. There is FAR MORE we can do!
"See, Royce? No contradiction. Just thought out, reasoned words."
Oh yeah, you've made that abundantly clear! LOL NOT!! Your "thought out, reasoned" words are insanity. LOL
"Now how about you tell ME why two adult people of the same sex shouldn't legally enter into a romantic relationship."
Ok. GOD.
"Please tell me who they are hurting."
Ok. Themselves and every single person who accepts, approves, and supports them.
"Please tell me where the abuse lies."
Ok. SIN.
"Please tell me why you should be the one we all listen to to get it stopped."
Ok. Because God says so. I am an Ambassador of the Lord Jesus Christ. An image bearer. A light in the Darkness. One who brings the Truth. Commissioned by Christ to do so.
Now, I've answered your questions. Try answering mine. And answer this one too, just exactly why are you here? Exactly what are you trying to accomplish?
Royce E. Van Blaricome,
Christian News Network 15 Comments [4/23/2017 9:35:55 PM]
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