Quote# 124448

...except maybe for when God meets feminist monsters at his Judgement Seat and then slaps them upside their ugly heads with His Huge, Holy, Righteous Patriarchal, Male, Masculine, Fatherly, Kingly, Almighty Penis!...and thereby knocks them straight into Hell!!! ROFL!

Navaros, IMDb 19 Comments [2/12/2017 9:15:12 AM]
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Quote# 124447

Please pay special attention to my OP in the thread "Farewell to the darwinists!" since I won't be able directly to guide with you my wisdom soon because the board Apocalypse is nigh. So I leave that thread's OP with you as the perfect tome of future guidance for the entire rest of your life. And that goes for the other darwinists too. You and/or them can thank me when we meet in Heaven - that's if you and them take the advice in my perfect tome of wisdom. If not, I'll be in Heaven and the rest of you never will be.

Navaros, IMDb 9 Comments [2/12/2017 9:14:56 AM]
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Quote# 124446

liberals want to brainwash everyone into believing the lie that the evil cesspool scum world they have created has always been the one and only world that exists, in order so people become fooled into believing that no alternative exists to said liberal evil cesspool scum world.

In reality, however, the 1950's was a utopia of paradise compared to the modern day liberal evil cesspool scum world.

Navaros, IMDb 14 Comments [2/12/2017 9:14:31 AM]
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Quote# 124441

Poem by Adrian Shephard, so to speak.



HHH Physical Removal Service, Facebook 14 Comments [2/12/2017 6:42:51 AM]
Fundie Index: 15
Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 124440

US refugee ban: Trump decried for 'stomping on' American values

Donald Trump is facing strong criticism from aid organisations after ending his first week as president with a ban on all Syrian refugees entering the US and a halt on arrivals from a string of predominantly Muslim countries.

The president signed an executive order to stop all refugee arrivals for four months – and Syrian arrivals indefinitely – on Friday, hours after meeting the British prime minister, Theresa May, and reportedly reaffirming his commitment to Nato.

The move, which he described as “extreme vetting” intended to “keep terrorists out”, was more severe than expected. It will amount to a de facto ban on Muslims traveling to the US from parts of the Middle East and north Africa by prioritising refugee claims “on the basis of religious-based persecution”.

The order has already reportedly blocked people from flying into US airports or clearing customs after arriving in the country. The Arab-American Anti-Discrimination Committee said people who had landed after the order was enacted at 4.30pm had been blocked and told they had to return to their point of origin.

Named the Protection of the Nation from Foreign Terrorist Entry into the United States, the order places a 90-day block on entry to the US from citizens from Iran, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Sudan, Libya and Somalia. It is unclear whether the measure would apply to citizens of those countries on trips abroad who already have permission to live and work in the US.

The order also caps the total number of refugees entering the US in 2017 to 50,000, less than half the previous year’s figure of 117,000.

The United Nations refugee agency (UNHCR) and International Organization for Migration (IOM) called on the Trump administration to continue offering asylum to people fleeing war and persecution, saying its resettlement programme was vital.

“The needs of refugees and migrants worldwide have never been greater and the US resettlement programme is one of the most important in the world,” the Geneva-based agencies said in a joint statement.

They said the US’s acceptance of refugees had offered a double benefit, “first by rescuing some of the most vulnerable people in the world and second by enabling them to enrich their new societies”.

Chuck Schumer, Democratic leader in the Senate, said: “Tears are running down the cheeks of the Statue of Liberty tonight as a grand tradition of America, welcoming immigrants, that has existed since America was founded, has been stomped upon.

“Taking in immigrants and refugees is not only humanitarian but has also boosted our economy and created jobs decade after decade. This is one of the most backward and nasty executive orders that the president has issued.”

The Council on American-Islamic Relations announced it would be filing a federal lawsuit challenging the constitutionality of the order “because its apparent purpose and underlying motive is to ban people of the Islamic faith from Muslim-majority countries from entering the United States”.

“There is no evidence that refugees – the most thoroughly vetted of all people entering our nation – are a threat to national security,” said Lena F Masri, the council’s litigation director. “This is an order that is based on bigotry, not reality.”

Malala Yousafzai, the Pakistani campaigner for girls’ education who survived an attempted murder by the Taliban when she was 15, said she was “heartbroken” that America was “turning its back on a proud history of welcoming refugees and immigrants – the people who helped build your country, ready to work hard in exchange for a fair chance at a new life”.

She added: “I am heartbroken that Syrian refugee children, who have suffered through six years of war by no fault of their own, are singled out for discrimination.”

Madeline Albright, the former US secretary of state, said: “There is no fine print on the Statue of Liberty. America must remain open to people of all faiths and backgrounds.”

She was referring the inscription of the iconic New York landmark: “Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door.”

[...]

As well as halting Syrian arrivals indefinitely, the president’s order suspends the admittance of all refugees to the US for 120 days. In Syria alone, the nearly six-year war under Bashar al-Assad’s regime has led to more than 500,000 civilian deaths and displaced an estimated 11 million Syrians.

Although Trump administration officials continue to insist the president’s actions are not targeted at any one faith, the text of the order made explicit that, when the 120-day suspension ended, the US government would prioritize religious minorities in Muslim-majority countries.

It states: “Upon the resumption of USRAP [US Refugee Admissions Program] admissions, the secretary of state, in consultation with the secretary of homeland security, is further directed to make changes, to the extent permitted by law, to prioritize refugee claims made by individuals on the basis of religious-based persecution, provided that the religion of the individual is a minority religion in the individual’s country of nationality.”

Donald Trump, The Guardian 21 Comments [2/12/2017 2:33:47 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 124439

(Shia LaBeouf’s “HE WILL NOT DIVIDE US” exhibit was shut down because so many white supremacists went to his exhibit to harass him and use his art project to promote their hate. It created a public safety hazard for the museum and they shut down what was supposed to be a 4 year project.)

Not to play devil’s advocate, but I don’t really have a lot of sympathy for LaBeouf. He’s also been shown, on camera, on THIS VERY STREAM shouting down people of a different opinion to his own. I’m not saying anti-semitism or white supremacy is right, but they literally just did to him what he did to moderate conservatives.

Plus, for fuck’s sake, the majority of the people I saw were clearly just trolling. Even the few that were probably actually neo-nazis are just exercising their right to free speech. They weren’t actually hurting anyone, so grow a pair and deal with it. Free speech cuts both ways.

Mrnexxus, Tumblr 10 Comments [2/12/2017 2:33:36 AM]
Fundie Index: 3
Submitted By: Ivurm

Quote# 124438

(On the ending of Legend of Korra)

“Mr DiMartino and Mr Konietzko: You are disgusting, limp, soulless sacks of filth. You have earned the contempt and hatred of all decent human beings forever, and we will do all we can to smash the filthy phallic idol of sodomy you bow and serve and worship. Contempt, because you struck from behind, cravenly; and hatred, because you serve a cloud of morally-retarded mental smog called Political Correctness, which is another word for hating everything good and bright and decent and sane in life.”

"I have no hatred in my heart for any man’s politics, policies, or faith, any more than I have hatred for termites; but once they start undermining my house where I live, it is time to exterminate them."

(P.S. Did not get them from the actual blog post, did not want it to show up on my history.)


John C. Wright, Jim. C Hines 15 Comments [2/12/2017 2:33:31 AM]
Fundie Index: 12

Quote# 124436

Top 10 Reasons to Kill Off Liberals

10. All they do is worship
9. They destroy traditional
8. They support sins
7. They support LGBT movement
6. They made all marriage legal
5. They support Globalism
4. They support Feminism
3. They support Political
2. They are for abortion
1. They are Cultural Marxists

MAD 10, YouTube 23 Comments [2/11/2017 5:28:33 PM]
Fundie Index: 21
Submitted By: Citizen Justin

Quote# 124435

[From "Whites of Latin America"]

Robert Lindsay has a long post about the Whites of Latin America. They are generally under siege throughout the region. Argentina has a terrible problem with illegal immigration. Miscegenation is rampant in Brazil. Indian chauvinists in Bolivia and Peru are fomenting hatred against Whites. Communist politicians are exploiting the racial resentments of the brown masses to gain power. In Mexico, the few Whites who remain have to deny their racial heritage to curry favor with the demos.

In the Anglo-American mind, Latin America has traditionally been a powerful foil. It was widely seen as a “warning from history”: racially degenerate, Spanish-speaking, in thrall to the Vatican, inclined to authoritarianism, stagnant, ignorant, backward and poor. Latin America was not a model to be imitated. It was thought of as the sort of place the United States would become if Americans lost their morals. There was no feeling of solidarity with the region except in the patronizing sense.

Until the 1930s. It was around that time that Jews began to rewrite Americanism. As they rose into the American elite, they substituted their own values — cosmopolitanism, internationalism, modernism, anti-racism — in the place of those inherited from the founding settlers. By 2000, the traditional narrative of Latin America’s racial degeneracy was replaced by a new tale about the struggle of freedom fighters against Yankee imperialism and commercial exploitation. Noam Chomsky (Jew) is the most prominent exponent of this view. Admittedly, it does have some basis in fact.

In spite of these efforts, traditional racial attitudes toward Hispanics and Latin America remain entrenched across a large cross section of the White population. Support for immigration restriction remains high. Millions of Whites aren’t willing to go quietly into the night. For now, their efforts are locked into the conservative mainstream, but that could one day change. It remains to be seen whether White Nationalists will exploit this opportunity.

Hunter Wallace, Occidental Dissent 7 Comments [2/11/2017 5:28:22 PM]
Fundie Index: 10
Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 124433

Do women understand that no one likes their personality and that attention and compliments they get about anything is just because of their cunts?

Of course they do. On some level they know they are vapid, they just get to suppress it and rationalize they aren't. As long as men keep on validating them the illusion persists.

That's why they are so upset about men seeing them as objects. I mean, it wouldn't even occur to any man to think his whole humanity is in question because some girl wants his dick, to think like that you need to be seriously doubting it yourself.

Women live on whiteknighs and beta orbiters, Chads reap the rewards. Cause they can excuse being used for their cunt in their fwb relationship as long as so many guys just love her sense of humor and intelligence.

Lol, no one does. You all know it. If you were male no one would give you time of day. You'd never have anything relevant to say. You'd never make anyone laugh. No one would ever call you interesting or stand talking to you for more than few seconds. You'd have no friends. Your posts would get no likes. Other men would hate you, including all your beta orbiters who are really just friends and only caring and loving because of what a great person you are - no, they'd kick you out of the group for being annoying. No one would ever ask you questions or find your anecdotes fascinating. No one would find your quirks cute.

If all of you turned into men you'd be a group below incels cause you wouldn't even be able to stand each other. Even your adoring dad would see you as a disappointment. Suddenly those suicidal tendencies would have much higher success rate. And still no one would give a shit.

StAliaHarkonnen, /r/incels 11 Comments [2/11/2017 5:26:48 PM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 124432



Christopher J. E. Johnson, creationliberty.com 16 Comments [2/11/2017 2:17:22 PM]
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Quote# 124431

I cannot fathom why darwinists like yourself are fascinated by plain-as-day, self-evident, blatantly obvious, common knowledge truth. My statement about being God's #1 Spokesman is as obvious as statements like "the grass is green." It is so obvious that it goes without saying.

The same is also true for my statements about God's Holy, Righteous Penis. That too is plain-as-day, self-evident, blatantly obvious, common knowledge truth. Yet darwinists treat me like I'm a genius since they believe I'm the first one who ever discovered it. It has been known since the dawn of mankind, starting with Adam & Eve! One time a crazy darwinist even falsely accused me of "plagiarizing him" on the false grounds that he "invented" the common knowledge of God's Holy, Righteous Penis. If anything, he plagiarized me because he learned about God's Holy Righteous Penis for the first time from my public posts about It on this board...except that you can't really plagiarize common knowledge like that nut falsely claimed I did to him. What a liar! What a kook! . . .

if I had to make a name for myself, then I am the God's Front of Holy Righteousness And Annihilator of Evil.

Navaros, IMDb 18 Comments [2/11/2017 1:47:52 PM]
Fundie Index: 11

Quote# 124429

[Wow so, I was on your blog and you seemed really cool but then i saw a few pretty acephobic things here. And yeah I'm just really angry and disappointed, if we aren't here for each other who are we here for? Ace people just want to be validated and included like everyone else, we (literally) don't bite. Yes I'm ace, and yes I face the same issues as any other LGBTQA+ group. It just really saddens me that you aren't being there for your queer brothers and sisters :( Hopefully you'll come around.]


Ace people aren’t queer Karen and I didn’t want your stringy haired caucasian ass following me to begin with


tiredassperra, Tumblr 11 Comments [2/11/2017 1:47:29 PM]
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Submitted By: Thanos6

Quote# 124428

If you follow the comments here at Tet Zoo you’ll already have seen the thread that’s been developing on the ‘Giant killers: macropredation in lions’ article (originally posted back in February, and itself a re-post of a ver 1 article from November 2006). If you don’t follow the comments, the following will be new to you. It seems that philosopher David Pearce is honestly proposing that we should feel ethically compelled to eradicate all suffering and cruelty from the natural world in order to create a sort of global vegan paradise where predators don’t exist. Pearce terms this the Abolitionist Project (for more on Pearce and his ideas see this wikipedia article). His plans are, as discussed in depth on his website, theoretically plausible and involve such things as the use of brain implants, behaviour-modifying drugs, and genetic manipulation. Eventually, the lion will, literally, lie down with the lamb, hyaenas will not feel compelled to eat baby elephants alive, and – I presume – ladybirds will not eat aphids, and so on [adjacent image from Catztours].

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I personally feel that the philosophy behind the proposal is completely wrong for many reasons. It imposes sentimental ideas and human moral judgment on other species; it (if carried through to eventuality) would mean an end to a great deal of natural selection; it is fundamentally contrary to the history of life and would result in the ultimate bastardisation of the natural world; and, perhaps most offensive of all, it PROMOTES the extinction and biological modification of thousands (or tens of thousands or more) of species. It would also result in the total collapse of the global ecosystem, but I think that’s a minor detail. I cannot help but feel that these ideas are amoral and utterly, utterly wrong. I might not like the sight of slow, lingering death and of animals being eaten alive by others, but I celebrate such processes as part of the natural world, and as a vivid illustration of evolution and adaptation. Death is part of life; we are surrounded by it. If I were religious I would regard predation, death, brutal selection and so on as part of God’s plan. On that note I initially assumed that Pearce was inspired by some kind of religious fundamentalism; so far as I can tell this is not at all the case – instead he represents a sort of ‘extreme vegan’ movement.

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While considering this issue, my assumption has been that so few people (especially those involved in conservation, wildlife management and field biology in general) will take it seriously that it will never go anywhere – even if it does become theoretically possible – and that those of us who find it ridiculous and/or offensive don’t have to worry or even think about it. Furthermore, by the time we do have the ability to do the sorts of things proposed by the Abolisionist Project, I think we will most likely need our funding, resources and technology for other things. And, sorry for repeating myself, but modifying wild creatures to suit our ideals hardly sounds enlightened or ethical. It reminds me of efforts to expunge homosexuality by way of electric shock therapy, or of attempts to westernise aboriginal people by banning their customs, traditional dress and languages.

However, I’m interested to see how representative my views are, or are not. A few readers have already made comments, but now is the chance to voice your concerns. Sockpuppetry will not be tolerated – yes your behaviour has already been noticed.

Darren Naish, scienceblogs.com 5 Comments [2/11/2017 1:47:19 PM]
Fundie Index: 3

Quote# 124427

[In a Q & A session following a speech on Islam and slavery]

Brown: [1:02:22] Let me ask you this question. You started saying ‘wrongs done by Arabs to other people.’ What wrongs?

Questioner: Well—

Brown: Just tell me. I know what you’re going to say so I’ll answer your question for you. The fact that there was slavery is a wrong.

Questioner: Yeah.

Brown: Ok, that’s, how can you say, if you’re Muslim, the Prophet of God had slaves. He had slaves. There’s no denying that. Was he—are you more morally mature than the Prophet of God? No you’re not. I’ll answer your question for you.

[...]

Brown: Slavery cannot just be treated as a moral evil in and of itself because slavery doesn’t mean anything. The moral evil is extreme forms of deprivation of rights and extreme forms of control and extreme forms of exploitation. I don’t think it’s morally evil to own somebody because we own lots of people all around us, and we’re owned by people.

[...]

Brown: [1:08:35] In general, you don’t find the brutality that you see in American slavery. As far as I can tell, generally it is simply not very common. Slaves in Islamic civilization were mostly investments.

[...]

Brown: [1:19:20] The first question was about the concubines. So this is a very difficult discussion to have. We don’t have time to have it today, but I would say that…. It’s very hard to have this discussion because we think of, let’s say in the modern United States, the sine qua non of morally correct sex is consent. We think of people as autonomous agents. Everybody’s an autonomous agent and it’s the consent of that autonomous agent that makes a sexual action acceptable. Correct?

If you take away the consent element, then everyone starts flipping out. Right? At that but you get, rape you get sexual acts done by people who are too young we perceive to consent (1:20:15). And these are sort of the great moral wrongs of our society. So the idea of someone who is a by definition non-consensual sexual actor in the sense that they have been entered into a sexual relationship in a position of servitude that’s sort of ab initio wrong.

The way I would respond to that…

Brown: …is to say that as – I mean this is just a fact – this isn’t a judgment, it’s a fact. For most of human history human beings have not thought of consent as the essential feature of morally correct sexual activity. And second, we fetishize the idea of autonomy to the extent that we forget, again who’s really free? Are we really autonomous people? I mean what does autonomy mean? Can I just drive—can I be like a cowboy and in a movie or an action TV series where I just get on my motorcycle and just ride to the West? No, I got kids. I have a mortgage. I mean we’re all born into and live in a network of relationships and responsibilities and duties, but we have this obsession with the idea of autonomy. And the fact is that—and this is not to demean the status of woman in Islam or Islamic civilization at all, but a concubine’s autonomy was not that different from the autonomy of a wife, because for most of human history and most of Islamic civilization, women got married to the person that their family wanted them to get married to. The idea of being autonomous and saying, “I need to be in love with him. I need to go have this, you know, Jane Austen-like courtship with him. That was hogwash.

[...]

Brown: What’s the difference between someone who is captured in a raid in the steppes of Central Asia brought to Istanbul’s slave market, sold to an owner, who, by the way, might treat her badly, might treat her incredibly well. She’s going to bear him children. She’s going to be a free woman. She’s going to be the mother of his children. If he’s high status, she’s going to be high status. If he dies she might be a very desirable wife. That person’s situation? What’s the difference between that and some woman who’s a poor baker’s daughter who gets married to some baker’s son without any choice because no one expects her to have any choice? And that baker’s son might treat her well. He might treat her horribly. The difference between these two people is not that big. We see it as enormous because we’re obsessed with the idea of autonomy and consent, would be my first response. It’s not a solution to the problem. I think it does help frame it.

Professor Jonathan Brown, The Daily Banter 12 Comments [2/11/2017 1:46:47 PM]
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Quote# 124422

(Note the Lewis referred to is C S Lewis)




Lewis is probably as honest as you can get since he acknowledges humanities universal condition of falling short of the mark morally.
For many if not all antitheists on here their subtext is either or all the following......that Christians are mentally deficient or abbérant or they are lacking morally and that would go for Jesus himself who led people to believe he was the son of God.......there are multiple sources on that and you have yet to establish that his quotes are made up by others.

I did detect earlier confusion by others between Jesus sayings and his ministry of miracles.

We are very much at the wire here and I'm afraid you either believe they are our Lords words or not.

The wire of antitheism is that Jesuses words are bollocks because we are helpless and hapless bonobos caught in a Darwinian game.ewis is probably as honest as you can get since he acknowledges humanities universal condition of falling short of the mark morally.
For many if not all antitheists on here their subtext is either or all the following......that Christians are mentally deficient or abbérant or they are lacking morally and that would go for Jesus himself who led people to believe he was the son of God.......there are multiple sources on that and you have yet to establish that his quotes are made up by others.

I did detect earlier confusion by others between Jesus sayings and his ministry of miracles.

We are very much at the wire here and I'm afraid you either believe they are our Lords words or not.

The wire of antitheism is that Jesuses words are bollocks because we are helpless and hapless bonobos caught in a Darwinian game.

Emergence - the Musical, Religion and Ethics 6 Comments [2/11/2017 1:45:14 PM]
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Submitted By: Nearly Sane

Quote# 124421

[fundie just basically admitted that Republicanism is his religion]

You don't understand how forgiveness works (Lk 17:4).

You are referring to something over a decade ago when Trump was big time abortion-loving, Bill and Hill embracing, sinful Democrat. He repented of all that and became a Republican. He's been forgiven.

David@YourService, Y! answers 7 Comments [2/11/2017 1:44:56 PM]
Fundie Index: 6

Quote# 124426

Friendzone: Guy v girl edition

Guy:

Told that women desire sweet, caring, loving romantic guys and that friendships build and develop solid relationships. He follows this and get friendzoned repeatedly while the women go for chad and players who just use them as cum deposits. When he points the hypocrisy out, he's scapegoated as "a manipulative asshole who was "pretending" to be nice just to fuck her; typically by frustrated women who failed to snag Chad in a ltr. He goes home to LDAR.

Girl:

After friendzoning the guy that actually cares about her and in an attempt to snag Chad in an ltr. She'll agree to be his fuck buddy, hoping her sex is great enough to get him to commit. In the beginning she'll pretend to be happy to be his booty call but soon she'll start hinting and demanding they do stuff outside the bedroom. When Chad reminds her what they are, she runs off to cry to her friends and whiteknights that he was "using" her for sex. They all call him a jerk and an asshole and that she's special and he never deserved her. Chad doesn't care that much because he quickly adds a new girl to his harem.

Conclusion: No matter the situation, men will always be blamed when things don't work. The difference is being physically attractive and popular will always get you women no matter what.

dontcryimalreadydead, /r/incels 21 Comments [2/11/2017 11:07:14 AM]
Fundie Index: 5
Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 124425

What's the point in getting your own place when you're incel?

So I'm pretty stoked about this job offer I just got. It's in my field, which I enjoy, and pays very well for someone my age, and even for someone 10 years older. When I start working I'll easily have enough to move out.

I don't see much point though. My parents are completely open to me living with them, and getting my own place would be nice but would cost so much money. Around where I live a nice 1BR is commonly 1500-2000 a month, which I can afford but would feel stupid wasting all of that on rent. It would not help build my net worth at all, it would just enrich my landlord.

The only reason I see to getting my own place is if I was having regular sex with women, because living with my parents would make it awkward and unpleasant. But because women don't find me attractive, this probably won't happen. If I move out, all I will have is an empty apartment to come home to. My parents can be a bit annoying sometimes, but definitely not to the point where I would pay thousands a month to avoid them.

So it seems like the cost/benefit of moving out just doesn't work out in my favor if I'm incel.

What are your thoughts?

incelcuck5555, /r/incels 16 Comments [2/11/2017 11:07:11 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 124424


Imagine you are a child growing up in a prominent white family on a plantation in colonial America. One day you go into town with your parents and they say "we need to buy us some slaves ". At the auction block, dark-skinned people are lined up with metal collars around their necks and shackles on their hands and feet.

Some have been transported in large cages; their humiliation and hopelessness are palpable. Imagine that your young heart is broken when you witness these atrocities. Something inside you screams "This is not right!". Your family and society however, act as if this is normal. You soon learn the underlying message "conform or be destroyed ". It must have been very lonely for those people who grew up with human slavery, (knowing in their hearts that it was wrong).

Imagine you are a child growing up in an average family in modern America.

One day you go into town with your parents and they say "we need to buy us a pet". You enter what is called a "pet store", where all kinds of animals ( in cages and aquariums) are for sale. One of the clerks slips a metal choke collar on a puppy, hands the leash to a young couple, and they walk out. You feel the humiliation and hopelessness of the captive animals. Imagine that your young heart is broken when you witness these atrocities. Something inside you screams " THIS IS NOT RIGHT "! Your family and society however, act as if this is normal. You soon learn the underlying message "conform or be destroyed". It is very lonely for those people who grow up with animal slavery, (knowing in their hearts that it is wrong).

I grew up in the suburbs of America in the 1960's and '70's. We were taught that humans have a right to keep some animals captive, and we call these "pets". Our family owned many pets over the years: cats, dogs, mice, horses, turtles, fish, birds, hamsters, and even a raccoon. Most of these animals were kept in cages except for the dogs, cats, and horses. I truly loved our pets and a part of me felt their loneliness on some deep level even though I could not put it into words.

I remember when we bought our collie puppy and first brought her home. I stayed beside her many nights as she cried and cried. Only recently have I fully realized that she was taken away from her mother and siblings, and forced to live with our family. I secretly celebrated when she slipped out of her collar and got free, which happened a lot. I remember pony rides for children. I loved having the chance to be around them, but the ponies were sad and bored. As a teenager I went to a fancy horse show where they pranced around doing tricks for their riders. At the end of the show they let the horses run free in the rink for ten minutes. They were so alive and happy; it was my favorite part!

I had a pet cat (who had been rescued as a kitten) when I was a young adult. She was sometimes my only friend and companion. Like many Americans, I was a wounded and isolated soul needing compassion and love, but finding it hard to connect with other people. I began to heal, and my self-awareness increased along with the awareness of society's wounds. I allowed myself to feel, and in "feeling" my compassion for other Beings grew. When my cat was young, I had her spayed and de-clawed. Much later I began to grieve this decision; feeling terrible for taking away her ability to defend herself and to climb trees I asked my cat for forgiveness as I shed many tears. Through my process of personal growth I discovered a connection between repression of our emotions and how we treat and interact with people and animals. Two weeks after my cat died of old age I had a dream; her Spirit was free and she was climbing a tree!

It has taken many years for me to openly question and confront the common American practice of owning animals as "pets". I too have been brainwashed by this culture, like so many others. When I am honest, my heart has been telling me all along that "something is wrong, very wrong!" Animals' basic rights are being violated daily by millions of Americans, and it is perfectly legal and condoned.

We hold them prisoners, and call them "pets". We separate them from their own species, families, and from the Earth, to provide companionship and entertainment for our children. Cats, dogs, and horses are now routinely sterilized which causes them to be more docile (and easier to tame). Many animals, (as pets), are treated like property; they are bought and sold, bred for pet shows, their wings are clipped, their tails are docked, they are chained up and exploited. We cause great suffering to other creatures, and in the end we suffer too.

But there is hope. Human slavery was once legal , condoned, and widely practiced in America. A few brave individuals spoke out against this injustice and a war was fought over this moral issue. The ideal of "liberty and justice for all" prevailed, and we are a better people and country because of it.

It is time NOW to expand this ideal of "liberty and justice" to include All Our Relations. As we release our hearts from the shackles of human repression, we are free to liberate animals from human oppression.

Together we can live in harmony again on Mother Earth, respecting the natural ways as the Creator intended.


Julie Earth Angel Walker Longhill, manataka.org 22 Comments [2/11/2017 11:07:07 AM]
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Quote# 124423

Sodom's SCOTUS means not a thing. God rules the world and He is coming back to punish the Sodomic West. You must repent of your sins to get saved. Read John chapter 3.

Grace Kim Kwon, Christian News Network  12 Comments [2/11/2017 11:06:15 AM]
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Quote# 124420

A Sikh community leader has told the Australian Senate that marriage equality “will destroy the whole human race”.

Bawa Singh Jagdev, who has received the Order of Australia, also suggested that gay men should refer to their relationships as “homo unions” as he tried to encourage the chamber not to introduce equal marriage.

As part of his submission to the Senate’s inquiry, Mr Jagdev, who is secretary of the National Sikh Council of Australia and responded on its behalf, said: “What the proponents of the bill are proposing and supporting is against the law of nature.

“God created humans on this planet to propagate the human race and not to destroy it. This bill will destroy the whole human race.”

Although he was not against same-sex relationships, he stated they shouldn’t interfere with the current definition of marriage.

“Give it a different name, such as homo union and recognise the relationship,” he added.

When approached by BuzzFeed, Mr Jagdev reiterated his comments that equal marriage would destroy the world.

He said: “If a gay person marries another gay person, they won’t produce anything.

“Suppose they adopt a kid and he becomes gay. How will the population increase?

“After a few years, or centuries, there won’t be anybody left.

“There won’t be any woman or man. It will be finished.”

He added that children raised in gay households will probably become gay because they will just copy their parents.

Bawa Singh Jagdev, Pink News 18 Comments [2/11/2017 6:28:30 AM]
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Submitted By: Yossarian Lives

Quote# 124419

Aw come on you lot WAKE UP!

You are much more than a few molecules dancing to the deterministic tune of the Devil's secular world.

Rejoice in the free spirit God has given you and give thanks for it! :)



Alan Burns, http://www.religionethics.co.uk/index.php?topic=10333.msg660462#msg660462 21 Comments [2/11/2017 6:28:24 AM]
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Submitted By: Nearly Sane

Quote# 124416

Personality is eternal proof that you were once ugly

Women want a guy who is not only good looking, but has been good looking his entire life. If you were an ugly teenager, but a good looking adult, women won't want to mate with you because even if you are good looking now, women don't want their offspring to be ugly during their teenage years.

When a woman meets a good looking man, how does she make sure he was not ugly during his teenage years? Then answer is social skills. If the man has poor social skills, that means he was too ugly during his teenage years to have any friends to socialize with.

Incel4Life, /r/incels 9 Comments [2/11/2017 2:26:40 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 124415

I am a major Constitution guy; I firmly believe that it works...but only in a homogeneous society whose culture has a history of utilizing its (the Constitution's) rules and systems fairly. The Founding Fathers specifically claimed that the government that they were establishing was "for themselves and their posterity", which means them and their descendants, specifically white people. The system they crafted was utilized based on the assumption that the people of America would have a common cultural respect for the Constitution since much of it was based off of the old documents and theories of law present in the Old World of Europe.
And as we can see, the clash of cultures that has grown from the fertile ground of immigration (particularly the near-unfettered influx of the last few decades) has resulted in every group in America screeching about how the Constitution (by which term I am also including the laws of the land) needs to change to suit their needs/wants/points-of-view, often at the expense of those whom it was originally meant to serve.
If this country is going to remain culturally-diverse (and I see no end to that in sight; whether that is good or ill, I leave up to you), then the Constitution, based off of the concepts of Liberal Democracy, is rendered ineffective; again, as demographics within the country change, then the laws and mores of the State will as well, which means that the largest group (or the group where the most public sympathy lies, or the group that has the most lobbyists, etc) will be able to craft a bank of laws and lawmakers that will benefit them them most, usually at the cost of everyone else.
A more culturally-diverse society needs something stronger, stricter, more iron-clad than Liberal Democracy...and that is where many on the Right are now looking at Fascism as the ideal way forward.
I do not agree, for the very simple fact that I love my personal freedoms, and I refuse to let my society hang by a single thread.
The old Fascist regimes were very successful economically, militarily, and socially. Italy and Germany were literally yanked into the mid-20th century thanks to the fact that their respective peoples were united in a single cause. The root term of Fascist refers to a bundle of sticks, which is borrowed from a metaphor about a bundle of sticks being stronger and less easy to break than single sticks on their own, and this proved true.
Art, music, architecture, personal health, business...all were boosted thanks to the people being united in their energies and efforts!

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Now, the problem with multicultural Liberal Democracy is the fact that it automatically assumes that everyone is the same or at least mostly similar, with a similar thought process, similar wants and needs, etc.
However, the sciences (anthropology, evolutionary biology, psychology, etc) tell us a very different story; all of humankind is not the same. You cannot take a native African shaman and have him switch places with a native Chinese Shaolin monk and expect them to thrive; the culture clash, the language barrier, the IQ level, the acclimation to climate, and even more will play a factor in how they survive...if at all.
Essentially, Liberal Democracy assumes that everyone in the world is merely different colors of the same kind of LEGO brick; they look different at first glance, but they still fit together the same way.
This is simply not so, and to assume it would be completely unscientific and unrealistic.
However, if Marxsm (including all of its derivatives) and Fascism (ditto) don't work, and Liberal Democracy only works under certain conditions (and we know that Anarchy doesn't work; everything goes back to a hierarchy eventually), then what would work at least most, if not all the time?
Russian political theorist Aleksandr Dugin advocates for the development of a fourth political theory, one that would take the best from the three previous models and incorporate them into something new, something that would both unite the people under it while preserving the population from what each advocates, which is the abolition of individuality and culture.
Granted, Dugin does not give us an outline of this theory; he merely provides skeleton parameters for the issues it must address and how it might come to be.
That said, one cannot deny the possibilities that a "Fourth Way" might present us with.
Marxism has failed, Fascism is dead, and Liberal Democracy is faltering. What is left to us is either tribal rule, autocracy, or ethnostatism; we don't want to go back to intertribal warfare, having a king would suck just as bad as the first three, and there is no way in hell that the globalist elite would allow any more ethnostates than already exist.
The problem is this; Fascism was beaten by Marxism in 1945. Marxism fell to Liberal Democracy in 1989. Liberal Democracy then spread around what parts of the world that it hadn't yet touched.
Westerners, the longest practitioners of Liberal Democracy, have been utilizing it for so long that now we think everyone either has it or wants it, and anyone who doesn't is either insane or just stupid, leaving it vulnerable to attack from within by those who hate it or want to use it for personal gain.
There are also those who do not want it, those of us who are seeing its failings and wanting to replace the system before it collapses and takes Western Civilization, what may as well be our world, with it. Naturally, we will be seen as evil and/or crazy as well.
Anyways, so while I hate Leftism, dislike Fascism, and am a Constitutionalist, I also realize that perhaps Liberal Democracy has played itself out, and not necessarily for the better. However, I have little clue where to proceed myself, and so I sit and think and research.

Panzer Schreck, FiMFiction 15 Comments [2/11/2017 2:26:37 AM]
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Submitted By: Gabriel LaVedier