Quote# 135280

The bible says that God spoke the universe into existence.

Now that seems very implausible because we know the First Law of Thermodynamics does not allow such a thing to happen. But God did not institute the First Law of Thermodynamics until after DAY SIX of creation. With God, all things are possible.

By the way, the Second Law of Thermodynamics was not instituted by God until AFTER the sin rebellion when God cursed this earth and everything in it. We now live under this curse of sin.

A Yahoo! User, Y! answers 10 Comments [12/18/2017 9:27:33 AM]
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Quote# 135279

Confused. Enabling confusion or confirming others in their confusion is simply misguided. Of course, like everything else embraced by the left, this is simply another flag of convenience to advance the "class struggle". The left cares no more about the welfare of "transgendered" than any other co-opted group. They're simply another flavor of "useful idiots" to be used as needed and discarded when no longer needed.

Sex is determined by one's chromosomes. XX = Female, XY = Male. There are rare cases of genetic diseases where individuals have some other chromosomal makeup and there are rare cases of hermaphrodism where the expression of sex characteristics goes awry. We used to call things like these "birth defects" and they were always handled as rare medical conditions.

AustinBill, Free Republic 5 Comments [12/18/2017 9:26:25 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 135278

How is it possible that these atheist groups can say and do whatever they want and everybody is just so willing to give in to their constant demands. When will the Real Christians get some courage? It's time to stand up,be bold and make your voice heard! For if you don't, soon even your very existence would be an offence to them. Then you will lose everything......

Dereck Gregan, Facebook 11 Comments [12/18/2017 9:26:18 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 135277

Complete and utter nonsense!!! You are either a male or a female, despite what you think you are, or what you want to identify with! Your chemical makeup does not change based on what you feel like being! No one should be fired for choosing not to play along with mental delusion!

Neil-Amy Medcalf, Facebook 6 Comments [12/18/2017 9:26:12 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 135276

I've never served in the armed forces so I don't have a full understanding of requirements necessary to serve. That being said though, from my understanding, there is a requirement that ALL enlisted must be combat ready.

Now if Johnny enlists in the Army and gets his dangly bits cut off to become Jane, then he/she/it is no longer combat ready. Furthermore, if he/she/it is taking gender bending hormone treatments, I cannot imagine those would be readily available on the battlefield.

What are these weirdos gonna do? Ask the terrorists to pause shooting at them while they take their pills or injections or whatever?

Scott Stilwell, Facebook 9 Comments [12/18/2017 9:22:52 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 135267

(Commenting on an article posted entitled "STUCK ON STUPID: Bernie Sanders Thinks Climate Change Affects Military Readiness" http://americanlookout.com/stuck-on-stupid-bernie-sanders-thinks-climate-change-affects-military-readiness/):

The climate changes. It always has and it always will. Very little is caused by man which is so minute that it is ridiculous to even consider it. Before there was industrialization, the Arctic and Antarctic were rain forests.

I am not against alternative energy...but not against what we have. Solar is not working or efficient yet. Wind farms are a mess and cause noise pollution.

Until there is something viable, then we have to use what we have. With American ingenuity, as long as government is not involved at all, someone will come up with something.

The climate has been cooling for 17 years btw. The ***********scientists********** tried to change the results by taking different models. For example, they measured in deep ocean for numbers and then they were caught then measuring in shallow waters close to the shore (to get the numbers they wanted instead of a clean measurement and analysis.

It is about money. It is not about anything else. If the government can make us at fault for climate changing, then they can take money from us (like California does) to fix it -- when it has been proven man has very little to do with it.


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sharaleigh23, Realabortiondebate 9 Comments [12/17/2017 12:23:28 PM]
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Quote# 135266

(In reply to another group member who said "Racist, sexist, bigot, Nazi, homophobe....It's all the brain-dead left has to run on" commenting on an article posted entitled "Hillary: GOP Agenda Fanning the Flames of ‘White Supremacy and Misogyny and Homophobia’" http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/12/15/hillary-gop-agenda-fanning-flames-white-supremacy-misogyny-homophobia/):

That is true -- and they use this like a weapon, in order not to talk about how well this country is doing with changes Trump has made.

Blacks' unemployment numbers are at a 17-year low.

More Hispanics are working than ever before. Ever.

They both are getting bigger paychecks.

So the left calls us racist, homophobe, islamaphobe, Aryan, Nazis, white supremacists because their last president was such a dismal failure.

Obama not only appeased our enemies, but he actually helped them. Obama said manufacturing jobs would never come back and had the nerve to tell a guy in his 50s to go into another line of work when he was concerned (btw, the guy was black). I could tell the guy was thinking -- at 50????? You want me to start all over and learn something else? Obama's growth never got to 3. And no one seemed to care. They figured this was the new normal. Nope...it is nearly 4. already under our new President. Food stamp usage is down because people are finding good jobs, many jobs have come back from other countries...not perfect yet, but they are coming back - at least some of them. If he is able to build the wall, it will be incredible for us. If we go with DACA, did you know the projected cost is $2.7 TRILLION in ten years? Trump will probably go with DACA but if he does it without getting the wall, he will lose a lot of people that voted for him to get rid of all these people (bringing housing prices up, destroying roads, accidents, crime, drugs).

That's just a little list...I forgot getting rid of insane and inane regulations.

And he is our social justice warrior with the energy and wherewithal to call out idiotic politically correct nonsense. He takes heat for his tweets, but he is our hero.

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sharaleigh23, Realabortiondebate 9 Comments [12/17/2017 12:23:07 PM]
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Quote# 135265

The sad thing about it is that most trans timelines are predictable. Neutral-looking guy makes ugly woman.

Ugly guy becomes 50-year-old creep mixed with an old woman who killed her husband for the life insurance money. Ideal masculine guy ends up looking like he's just cross-dressing as a joke.

Androgynous looking guy becomes half-decent looking girl, but would have done much better if he hit the gym instead of going through all this effort to approximate the opposite sex.

I also doubt that trans women truly are "women trapped in men's bodies." Effeminacy is also different from femininity. Very few real women act like stereotypical gay men. Autistic men seem feminine compared to average men, but are actually masculine compared to real women (because they don't fit either role, being autistic).

Most trans MTFs talk about how they always hated boy toys and wanted girl toys. But anyone with sisters would know real girls enjoy BOTH types of toys and never reject one or the other, unless told to. Real girls have a diverse range of interests, MTFs have a narrow range, like most men. MTFs are still masculine, just in their own way. In fact, it was actually progressive to say that until about 10 years ago.

Real Mayun, Kiwi Farms 12 Comments [12/17/2017 12:22:41 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 135264

Lol look at that little bitch in the front. Totally emotionless just like the rest of them. You're underestimating us. What's happening now will ultimately be good. We have to lose something for a short time to realize that we had it. After white conciousness rises, earth will be replaced with Planet Europa.
Don't worry, we'll take the rest of the hot Asian girls from you bug people.

Guardturnedreciever, Reddit 6 Comments [12/17/2017 12:22:10 PM]
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Quote# 135263

Lol, you comment is laughable. You are probably a filthy asiatic nationalist. If whites are not the most superior, there would not be things like Pythagorean theorem right now. Jews are still even better than asians (look at their achievements PER CAPITA). asians are so inferior that they can’t even built the foundation of maths and science. Whites built those foundations, u dumb garbage

Rescueop, Reddit 9 Comments [12/17/2017 12:20:45 PM]
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Quote# 135262

The same people we fought in Asia and Middle East are now taking over our country.,how ironic. First non-whites took our physical sports and now they are taking even our mental sports, without our national sport teams we are no more a real Nation. Secession is the only solution.

Tidderfodnimpot, Reddit 8 Comments [12/17/2017 12:15:56 PM]
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Quote# 135257

Only Chinese people (including their colonies like Singapore, Hong Kong, and Taiwan), Japanese people, and South Korean people have a slightly higher average IQ score than Whites (105 vs 100). Almost every other Asian nation has a lower average IQ score than the White average of 100.

And where exactly are you suggesting that they should rule? America? The world? Even though East Asians in America are doing better than the White majority (which proves that leftists like you are completely full of shit when you try to scapegoat White supremacy for the chronic failings of low-IQ brown and black people), there's simply not enough of them in America for them to take over our country. But that will almost certainly change over the next several decades as East Asians continue to flood into America, because America is much more meritocratic than you anti-White leftists want to admit.

And since most people in the Alt-Right subscribe to "race realism" (a euphemism for scientific racism), we know that East Asian countries will almost certainly snatch the title of Master Race from we Whites sometime this century, especially as the White Western world descends into neo-Marxist 3rd world dysgenics and focuses on "social justice" rather than on civilizational greatness, and as China's rapid economic rise is further bolstered by their enthusiastic embrace of genetic engineering (i.e., eugenics).

CertifiedRabbi, Reddit 4 Comments [12/17/2017 12:01:35 PM]
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Quote# 135256

Being able to roll your eyes at the term “cultural appropriation” is a sign of privilege. You think everyone should just do what they want right? Because you’ve never been ridiculed or shamed for your traditions, culture, features, and appearance while at the same time seeing others copy or take those traditions, culture, features, and appearance and be praised for “starting trends” or “being edgy”. Keep that in mind next time you wanna throw a temper tantrum because a black girl told you you shouldn’t wear dreads.

theywarnedyouabout-me, Tumblr 7 Comments [12/17/2017 12:00:48 PM]
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Quote# 135255

Normies are black pilled too. They just do not want to admit it.

I've been dropping black pills on a local new site. I get shit ton of likes on my comments, which means most noemies agree with me.They do not want to admit it because they want to fit in, so they cope instead.

Dunarote, incels.me 6 Comments [12/17/2017 12:00:08 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 135254

Incel lives are comically bad and go to even worse later on.

Childhood: you know the drill,rejections,playing video.games,seclusion etc etc no need to go into detail.

Teen years: even more.rejection,coping with anime,vidya etc etc. HOWEVER now it is added bonus of seeing your oneitis get with other guys,and understanding why you need "friends" and you are totally out.

Early adult: the rejections have stopped,but is because you arent even trying,you know your place,you cope with whatever works,essentially waiting to die. If you are smart this is the time to sui,cause the bad part is only.coming still

Late adulthood: you are alone,spent lifetime of rejection and isolation,you have no value to no one. If you died no one would care. You cannot.cope.With anything anymore. You cannot relate to anything. Even worse your healt is deteriorating and your life is going from bad to worse. You arent relevant to anything or anyone,you have no future,and even if you have a carrier somehow it was all for nothing. Also with your parents dying at this point you are trully on your own now,with no family you may spend years with no human contact,decades even. Of course there will be some contact but only professional and behind the curtain type. Not genuinely. You are essentially isolated.

Old age: if you STILL havent ended your miserable existence,now you have to look.forward to serious health issues,trauma,pain,demention,and everyone avoiding you like.the plague.

Oh and the best part? You are on your own going trough all those things,essentially pain untill you die. Life spent behind a computer screen talking to wretched people across the globe and coping untill death with no redeemable factors. And your entire sacrifice was for nothing. In the end no one even cared about you. It was all for nothing. You never even understood.

St.Tropez, incels.me 6 Comments [12/17/2017 11:59:39 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 135252

(commenting on story "School choice programs are needed to save America's public schools" - story here: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/12/17/school-choice-programs-are-needed-to-save-americas-public-schools.html):

Lady Checkmate:
School choice should be mandated in all states.

RADMIL:
Agree but there are those who think that racist- you know who. They want everyone equally brainwashed and dumb

Lady Checkmate:
Agreed, but I think they're more concerned with teaching students about immorality than race. Think about it brother. I'm a Christian, conservative lady (AA), and they dislike me for what I believe. It's my beliefs they hate; specifically, my belief in almighty God. They'll tolerate my race (operate word "tolerate"), but they really don't give a damn about AA people. The alt-left assumes we are mostly uneducated, etc., but when they meet educated, God-fearing, conservative AAs...they're alt-left racism and stereotypes about what AAs should be and should be, are exposed. I dislike the alt-left and the alt-right equally.


Lady Checkmate, Disqus - News Network 19 Comments [12/17/2017 11:58:54 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 135251


A god Who Admits All People to Heaven is…(God Cannot Save All People)

Very minimally, Universalism or Inclusivism asserts that God will save all people whether they believe in Christ or not. However, Universalism severely debilitates God, which I will now strive to elaborate.

For the purpose of differentiating the god of the Universalists from the living Triune God, I have named the god of the Universalists as ‘unigod.’

Who is this unigod, who supposedly saves all people? What is he worth?

Worth Nothing – A Cruel, Unjust God, Unmindful of Sins

Man, if he is to love and worship God, should be aware of God’s attributes or nature. Minimally, love and justice are significant communicable attributes. (Attributes that are perfect in God but also found in humans to a degree are ‘Communicable Attributes.’)

A god who loves all, even those who hate and abuse him, seems to be a loving God. But a careful examination of this love reveals cruelty.

Those who hate God say, “I do not want to live with God.” But if God forces those who hate HIM to be with HIM unto eternity, this certainly smacks of slavery. Holding people against their will is slavery. None accept, agree, or admire slavery. This is cruelty in its glory.

But this is apparently what unigod does to people. Unigod forces people to be with him unto eternity. So, unigod is not loving, but cruel.

Consider God’s attribute of justice. Justice is a disposition to do that which is morally right. Presence of ‘right’ requires a ‘wrong;’ this is analogous to rust requiring a metal.

Since evil is rampant in the world, common man expects the authorities to punish evil. But unigod, as an apparent ultimate authority, does not punish evil, for he allows even a horrendously evil person to enter into heaven.

We would be extremely saddened and frustrated if we are victims of injustice. An authority who fails to provide justice is unjust or evil. By allowing a horrendously evil person to inherit the greatest good (heaven), the unigod reveals his unjust and evil attributes.

Significantly, unigod, who supposedly saves all people, is unmindful of sins. Sin is an assault on the Holy God, who is the maximally great being. But unigod, by virtue of apparently forgiving unrepentant people of their sins, does not consider sins to be an assault on HIS holiness.

In other words, holiness, love and justice are not the attributes of unigod.

Unworthy of Worship

Worship is man’s response to God’s worthiness. God should be worshipped for HE alone is worthy of our worship (adoration, thanksgiving, prayers etc.). God deserves this response from all people.

From the perspective of Historic Christianity, since God so loved the world, HE gave HIS only Son, so that those who believe in the Son of God will receive eternal life (John 3: 16). Salvation of mankind (those who believe in Christ) is an outcome of God’s love for man. Since salvation is God first act (through HIS love to redeem man from his sin), the believer loves God, and worships HIM always. The living God reveals HIS worth to HIS people by HIS blessed presence, and offers hope that HE, through HIS second coming, will fulfill all HIS promises (e.g. eliminate evil forever). Thus man worships this Almighty, loving, gracious and a compassionate God.

In contrast how does unigod reveal his worthiness to his people? All that he supposedly does is to save all men (universal salvation). If this is his only or primary revelatory act of worthiness, then unigod has placed himself in a precariously quicksand situation.

Think about this. We DO NOT need to worship unigod. What do we gain or lose by not worshipping unigod? Nothing!

Will we lose our salvation if we do not worship unigod? No, we will not lose our salvation.

If those who do not worship unigod will go to heaven, then why should man waste his time and energy in worshipping this unigod, when he can indulge in carnal hedonistic lifestyle?

The depraved mind of Universalists posits salvation for everyone – all and sundry – even those who do not worship unigod. In other words, unigod, who supposedly saves all people, declares himself to be unworthy of worship.

Worthy of Abuse

If you are unaware of Richard Dawkins’ intense abuse (an act of evil) of the living God, please read the endnote.1 (Proponents of Historic Christianity believe that Prof. Richard Dawkins, the bulldog of Atheism, will not go to heaven, if he does not repent of his sins and accept Christ the Lord as his Savior. The God of Historic Christianity is a holy God and in HIM is no sin, so sin cannot coexist with God.)

Thanks to Dawkins, we can now turn the tables.

Please brace yourself for an unmitigated and an indecent assault on unigod. The unigod is an evil, corrupt, depraved, putrid, brainless blockhead; he is a nonsensical dummy, foolish idiot, insanely ignoramus dolt, a nincompoop, and a senseless monkey. Anyone can mock and thoroughly disrespect unigod.2

Despite these abuses on unigod, Universalists claim that unigod will still save me!

Unworthy of Emulation

Just as how parents are emulated by children, God should be emulated by HIS disciples.

Universalists claim that all people will be saved despite their good or horrendous nature. If their god unconditionally accepts abuses, should not the Universalists unconditionally accept abuse from others?

If the Universalists fail to accept horrendous abuses upon themselves or their families and friends, they intuitively expose their opposition to or the limitation of their own god!

Historic Christianity asserts Christlikeness in the believers of Christ (Romans 8: 29 et al.). This is not a mere fact from the realm of the spiritual, but from the realm of the physical as well. Christians are called to bear fruit and much fruit (John 15).

The contentment and joy of a parent is directly proportional to the physical and behavioral resemblance of their child. If a child resembles the goodness of the parent, the parent will be greatly joyful and contented.

But in the case of Universalism, there is no resemblance of unigod in the lives of its disciples. The children of the alleged unigod exist in reality, but when the child is to resemble the parent, the children of unigod do not resemble their god, for their god cannot be resembled.

Conclusion

Universalism is a medievally mystical belief, bordering on insanity. The alleged god who admits all people into heaven is imaginary, and resides only in the depraved minds of the Universalists.

God cannot be unholy, evil, unjust, and unmindful of sins. Only an evil and an unjust being will be unmindful of sins. Moreover, a god who accepts and agrees with abuse of any intensity is a god without perfection and holiness. A being with such deplorable attributes is not God. In fact, God, as a maximally great being, cannot possess such appalling attributes.

Even man’s intrinsic dignity and self-worth prevents him from agreeing and accepting to abuses of any form or size. So a god who is awfully comfortable with abuses to the extent of supporting and welcoming evil is an evil god that resides only in the fantasies of certain minds.

Therefore, we reasonably claim that there is no unigod, and that universalism is nothing but a grand illusion.

Rajkumar Richard, Christian Apologetics Alliance 6 Comments [12/17/2017 11:58:47 AM]
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Submitted By: Christopher

Quote# 135250


Consequences of Christian Universalism

By virtue of his universalistic persuasion, a Christian Universalist implies that:

Bible is corrupt – errant and fallible.
God is a cruel dictator without holiness, justice and true love. God’s commands need not be obeyed (e.g. evangelism is a non-factor).
The roles of Christ and the Holy Spirit is a non-factor
A believer need not be holy, need not love and worship God, and can be immoral.
A believer need not repent or believe in Christ and need not produce the fruit of the Spirit.
Since Christian Universalism opposes the Bible, we can reasonably assert that Universalism is a heretical teaching and Christian Universalists are a cult (false religion). Christians espousing universalism are not Christians even though they may term themselves as a Christian.

Although I don’t stand in judgment, the Christian Universalist, according to my understanding of salvation, lives dangerously close to an eternal separation from God.

Why does a Christian succumb to Universalism?

Unbelieving family and friends: If we believe in Christ, and our family and friends do not, then we suffer intensely knowing that those whom we love so dearly are hell bound. This constant pain motivates Universalistic persuasion.
Since universalism is an untenable proposition, a better mode of reconciliation would be to pray earnestly for God’s light to shine in the hearts of our loved ones. Meanwhile, we should gently and respectfully provide reasons for our hope in Christ, hoping that they would turn to Christ.

Observing the apparently flawless lives of the non-Christians: There are many non-Christians, who through their apparently impeccable life put Christians to shame. So one could wonder how such a life would be deemed to hell.
This situation could be reconciled through the fact that all are sinners and imperfect in thoughts, words, and deeds. None can be as perfect as God. So an impeccable life is only impeccable within the confines of the act(s) that invoke impeccability (e.g. charity). Therefore, since the flawless lives of non-christians are merely confined to certain acts, a reasonable conclusion is that all men are imperfect sinners worthy of infinite punishment.

Conclusion:

The Bible affirms that those who lead others to sin (disbelieve in God) are in a great and mighty danger – a potential loss of eternal life (cf. Matthew 18:6; Mark 9:42; Luke 17:1-2).

Universalism states that all will go to heaven. If Universalists are right and the debunking of Universalism is incorrect, then all will go to heaven (I and the Universalists). This is a win-win situation for me. But if Universalism is nonsensical, the Universalists are treading dangerously towards hell. For the Universalists, this is a win-lose situation (they lose, Christians win).

May we earnestly seek to follow and obey God in the light of HIS truth. Amen.

Rajkumar Richard, Christian Apologetics Alliance 9 Comments [12/17/2017 11:58:42 AM]
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Submitted By: Christopher

Quote# 135248

Anna Soubry, one of the 11 Conservative MPs who defied government whips this week when the government suffered its first Commons defeat over Brexit, has received multiple messages saying she should be hanged as a traitor.

Messages received by Soubry’s office – usually seen first by her parliamentary staff – also feature abuse, with one Facebook message saying: “Go hang yourself slag.”

It follows death threats to Dominic Grieve, the former attorney general, who drew up the amendment to the EU withdrawal bill that passed on Wednesday by 309 votes to 305, ensuring MPs must have a final vote on any Brexit deal.

The rebellion prompted a scathing response by some newspapers. The Daily Mail said 11 “self-consumed malcontents” had betrayed their leader, party and 17.4 million Brexit voters.

On Twitter, a post by Soubry defending herself against the Mail’s attack prompted a reply: “You and these traitors should be hung in public.”

Another Twitter user posted a link to a separate Daily Mail article that claimed Soubry and other rebels had celebrated their success with champagne, something the MP has vehemently denied.

A reply to this tweet compared Soubry to William Joyce, known as Lord Haw Haw, who was hanged after the second world war for his wartime radio broadcasts from Nazi Germany. It ended: “Traitor Anna Soubry deserves to stand trial for the same crime.”

Other tweets called for the Queen to seek treason charges against Soubry so she could be hanged, while another said: “Back in the day you would have walked through traitors gate and been beheaded in the tower of London, you are the true definition of a traitor.”

Emails sent to Soubry’s office, and seen by the Guardian, took similar lines.

One, from a man in Tonbridge, Kent – about 150 miles from Soubry’s Broxtow constituency – read: “You deserve to be HUNG for your attack on our democracy yesterday. WE VOTED OUT! OUT! OUT!” The writer, who gave his full address and telephone number, ended the email: “MAY YOU BURN IN HELL FOR ETERNITY.”

Another rebel Tory MP, Sarah Wollaston, also said that she had been threatened.

Soubry told the Guardian her main worry was for her staff: “As with all members of parliament they have access to my emails, they take the phone calls. So they have to read all this stuff. I think people forget it’s the parliamentary staff who feel even more intimidated than members of parliament.”

The media had “fuelled a lot of this”, Soubry argued: “The words in certain newspapers are replicated – so ‘mutineer’ is then in an email saying: ‘We all know what happens to mutineers, let’s see you hanging from a lamppost or a tree.’

“I got an email from somebody yesterday saying: ‘In the past, traitors were taken out and shot.’ It’s appalling. I’m sure some of these people, if they took a step back, would actually be appalled themselves. But they are being whipped up into a frenzy by certain sections of the media that have frankly lost the plot.”

While the abuse came from a tiny minority of people, Soubry said, it seemed indicative of deep divisions in the country that were not being addressed.

“It’s the job of government to do everything they can to bring people together, and it’s the responsibility of everybody in public life to build a more tolerant society,” she said.

The idea perpetuated in some newspapers that she and other Tory rebels were seeking to overturn Brexit was nonsense, Soubry said.

“I said I will honour the result of the referendum, so I voted to trigger article 50. So, I accept we are leaving the European Union, even though the result was close. My argument now is how do we get the best deal, and I want parliament, finally, to be involved in getting the best deal for our country. Why does that make me a traitor?”

Anonymous Brexiteers, The Guardian 9 Comments [12/17/2017 11:55:07 AM]
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Submitted By: Yossarian Lives

Quote# 135246

But what if Jesus had never been born at all? With apologies to Jimmy Stewart, what difference would it make in the world if Jesus had never lived his wonderful life?

If Jesus was never born, what a difference it would make in politics. Our representative form of democracy rests on explicitly Christian principles of church and state. So do our principles of free speech and religious tolerance. In fact, the very founding of this nation was motivated by the goal to establish a Christ-centered community. If Jesus was never born, there wouldn't be a United States of America, at least as we know it today.

If Jesus was never born, what a difference it would make in education. The world's oldest universities were all founded on Christian principles, so that students could grow in the knowledge of Jesus Christ. The same is true of nearly every one of the first one hundred colleges and universities in America. Eventually people would have developed institutions of higher education, but there would be no Oxford, no Harvard, no Yale, and no Princeton. Furthermore, Christians have always been pioneers in promoting literacy and universal education. Even America's public school system is part of the legacy of Puritan education. To this day, linguists are working all over the world, in the name of Jesus, to put native languages in written form and teach people to read the Bible.

If Jesus was never born, what a difference it would make in literature, music, and the arts. There would be no Messiah for Handel to write into his famous oratorio—no Christmas music at all. There would be no Pieta by Michelangelo, and no Last Supper by Leonardo. There would be no cathedrals in Europe, no Hagia Sophia or Notre Dame. There would be no Gospels and no New Testament, and therefore no story of the prodigal son, no parable of the good Samaritan, and no Sermon on the Mount. There would be no Divine Comedy by Dante, and no Paradise Lost by Milton.

If Jesus was never born, what a difference it would make in science and medicine. It was the Christian worldview—with its insistence on the rational order of the universe and man's dominion over creation—that gave rise to modern science. Followers of Jesus Christ were also pioneers in the art of medicine. The first hospitals were established by Christians who believed they had a God-given responsibility to heal the sick.

If Jesus was never born, what a difference it would make in charity and the protection of life. It was the followers of Christ who first introduced the Roman world to disinterested benevolence, to helping someone who couldn't help you in return. Pagans were amazed to see that Christians not only took care of their own needy people, but also provided for other people's poor. It was also the followers of Christ who first abandoned the nearly universal practice of infanticide. The birth of Christ taught them to protect the lives of their own children, and to rescue foundlings and orphans.

Humanly speaking, none of this would have happened if Jesus was never born. What I have said so far is only just the beginning, of course, and it is also true that many wrong things have been done in the name of Christ—that is a topic for another occasion. But simply in terms of secular history, the life of Jesus Christ has had a far greater and more positive influence on the world than anyone else in history.

Phil Ryken, Tenth Presbyterian Church 19 Comments [12/17/2017 3:40:19 AM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

Quote# 135243

David Yeagley was born in 1951 and grew up in Oklahoma City. Even as a young child, he was vividly aware of threats to the Comanche people and their culture. When his grade school teacher asked the otherwise all-white class to draw pictures to encourage fire prevention, he drew teepees engulfed in flames, with the words, “Stop this.”

Yeagley showed great promise as a student and went on to earn so many degrees it is hard to keep track of them. He had a bachelor’s degree from Oberlin Conservatory, a Master of Arts from Emory University, an Artist Diploma from the University of Hartford (Hartt School of Music), and a Doctorate from the University of Arizona. He was the first American Indian ever admitted to Yale Divinity School, where he earned a Master of Divinity degree. He did graduate work at Harvard but did not earn a degree. He was a Ford Fellow and a Kellogg Fellow.

Yeagley taught at Oklahoma State University, the University of Central Oklahoma, and the University of Oklahoma. His off-the-reservation views caused a stir, and led to collaboration in 2000 with Governor Frank Keating to establish a curriculum on American patriotism for Oklahoma’s public schools. However, it was his columns for FrontPageMagazine.com in the early 2000s that brought him to national attention.

He appeared on programs such as Hannity & Colmes and Bill O’Reilly, and made a number of C-Span appearances. He also made a History Channel episode on “Comanche Warriors,” did a history documentary for Danish Public Television, and was a popular speaker at universities. He was often sponsored by Young America’s Foundation, and electrified audiences with talks on gun rights, Comanche pride, the mind of the warrior, and the importance of protecting the United States from Third-World invasion.

However, Yeagley’s fair-weather friends could not stomach his increasingly outspoken criticism of mass immigration. FrontPageMagazine dropped him, and speaking engagements dried up. But Yeagley never trimmed his sails. Like his great-great-grandfather, he stuck to his guns and never lost his vision.

It was under Bad Eagle’s leadership that the Comanche finally put down arms after years of war with the United States and reconciled to becoming Americans—proud Comanches, still, but Americans. Yeagley, too, had a vision of Comanche accommodation with an America he had grown to love, but it must never be a Third-World America of white-guilt and multi-culturalism.

I first met Yeagley in 2011, when he spoke at a conference I organized. He described the dispossession of the Indian by the white man, but said he could not hate whites. As a warrior, he was compelled to admire the bravery and fighting spirit of the conqueror. He spoke of the crisis the now-denatured white man has created for himself, as he lets others push him off his own land. The great tragedy, he said, is that although the Indian fought to defend his land, the white man has lost his warrior virtues and is giving up without a struggle. The American white man, said Yeagley, has voluntarily become the “Indian of the 21st Century,” adding, “Let me be the first to welcome you onto the reservation.”

Jared Taylor, American Renaissance 5 Comments [12/17/2017 3:33:26 AM]
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Quote# 135242

David Yeagely speaks to the Washington Times.

Immigration:

American is not a haven for losers, criminals, and populations of failed Third World countries; but, open immigration has made it such. The Third World is overrun by mindless reproduction, low standards, destructive religion, filth and disease. To invite such defective masses is suicidal for any nation.

Political strategy:

I see States Rights therefore as the first viable position to counter the federal monster. More freedom, more independence, can only begin at a smaller, localized level.

Citizenship:

Few people should be allowed citizenship. It should be made precious. Very few people should have the right to vote, and that right must be earned with terrible trial and knowledge.

Sports teams with Indian mascots:

Personally, I want to see the Indian warrior head on every high school and college in the country! The Indian warrior represents all that is glorious in manhood—any manhood, of any nation or people. The warrior is the protector, the provider, and the strong man of the people. Indians earned this image, with blood, in the mind of the conquering race. The Indian image found its way into nearly every state seal, and Indian names to this day remain as the names of states, rivers, cities, mountain ranges, and even businesses. The white man even put the Indian image on his money! Never before in history was a conquered people treated with such honor by those who conquered. To seek to remove the Indian image from the public view is simply an ethnic cleansing. It is a virtual genocide. It is erasing history.

What Indians want:

At heart, every Indian is a Ghost Dancer. We want things to be like they were. The Paiute spiritual leader Wovoka said in the 1860s that if only the Indians would gather together and dance, and never stop dancing, all the Indians who were killed would come back, the white man would go away, and all things would be like they were.

It is a compulsive dream, but, only a dream. The Sioux were once murdered in mass for such a dance. It’s called Wounded Knee. What Indians have today is some meager imitation of white life. We use electricity (when we have it), fry food, drive cars (when they work), and wear Wal-Mart clothes. We celebrate Christmas, and even ask the Lord to bless our food—as well as our tribal meetings! It is a mix of things. We obviously maintain many of our traditions, customs, and social values.

Indians simply cannot have what we really want. We must compromise. I can say only that we should compromise in the wisest ways possible, ways that will ensure the continuity of our people and our identity. . . . I suggest that America take a good hard look at Indians. Is that what you want? If you want to be yourself, be it now, with all your might, before the oedipal white liberals in charge use the Third World non-whites to bury you in your own egalitarian idealism.

David Yeagley, Washington Times 7 Comments [12/17/2017 3:33:18 AM]
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Quote# 135240

Harvesting baby parts from dead babies they killed. This is highly illegal. One reason for it is because they would push abortion to sell the baby parts -- and the older the baby, the better -- so they had more developed parts to sell. Also, it is illegal because they would push abortion just to get money. PP is profiting over something illegal. In many cases they do not even get permission from the mother to do this -- and oftenthey rush her signing the paperwork and she doesn't know what she just signed.

PP is as corrupt as they come.

There are other medical facilities that do the same thing.

You do not kill a baby to profit from selling their brains, liverso, etc. The same organization doing the abortions are also selling the parts. GEEZE...hard to believe they did this for so long.

SS

sharaleigh23, Realabortiondebate 13 Comments [12/17/2017 3:31:48 AM]
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Quote# 135239

Intelligence does exist, it can be measured, it does make a difference. US President Johnson's 1965 "Great Society" imposed what has come to be some $50 trillion in summed Social Marxism failures. The refractorily lowest classes are overall genetically inconsequential. No amount of money, no imposed opportunity and empowerment at the cost of others' robust abilities, heals the problem other than to amplify it through subsidized reproduction.

Cherish the Gifted. Allow normalcy less a standard deviation to prosper of its own palsied hands, demanded beliefs, and sacred cultures.

Uncle Al, Information Processing 4 Comments [12/17/2017 3:31:04 AM]
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Quote# 135237

Feminists gunning for White women

(Roo)
White women scrape the bottom of the Progressive Stack. It goes:

Black people
Muslims
Mexicans/Puerto Ricans (comes after Muslims because they're Christians and Christianity is NOT a religion of peace, after all)
Disabled people (and where individual disabled folks are in the Stack depends highly on their race and disability)
Jews (they really get to move to various positions within the Stack, depending on several factors, like tombstones falling over, Hindus painting swastika pictures, and whether or not Hollywood has made another Holocost film)
White women

However

the LGBTQJDITSIORNSUVNTJSOCNRNJGVDXHPJNYFESQLMHBTCKFCG Jewish black woman (just don't assume her gender!) who is in a wheelchair and wears a hijab, niqab, and a burka at the same time - this woman (if she self identifies as a woman) is the most coveted of all. She is the Holy Grail of Victims, and it should never ever be underestimated to the sheer extent the Left will gleefully lie, cheat and steal from each other just to cater to her every conceivable whim. Zher wish is their command, just don't call them racist or they will debase themselves further.

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P.S.
I suppose that if I'm going to be put on such an amazingly retarded list without my express permission or my opinions on the matter, after all I'm merely a woman to these people, and therefor, have not the power of my own authority in a free country to do various things like speak for myself then I should just scrape together what dignity I am allowed, accept my lot in life and be happy that I am, at least, at the bottom of it.

And if the above statement sounds like a pathetic attempt to make lemonade, well, that's because it is. I hope everyone enjoys it - I'm out of sugar.

(Catie1113)
Better to be at the bottom of the pile than to be a nasty female sellout.

(Hook Nose)
The way I see it they did it to themselves.

White women broke off from the tribe abandoning the role of wife's and mothers in order to gain personal (female) benefits and this had to come at the expense of white mens authority, to give everyone so called equality. They allied themselves with other ''oppressed'' groups like blacks,gays and whatever else to accomplish their goals and effectively become ''anti-racist'' or anti-white and now white men have been completely busted down it only stands to reason that they'll follow because of the choices and allies they made.

(Phoenix1933)
Feminism was created by communist jewish women to help destroy the white race by stopping white women from having children, basically. 99.9% of all feminist leaders have been jewish women. This news story is just more evidence that feminism is not pro-women. It's a jewish anti-white movement. It looks like a majority of white women have now come to their senses. Notice how feminist viewpoints always conform to jewish agendas, such as being in favor of muslim immigration. It shows you that jews are still in charge of feminism and are controlling what other feminists think.

(vnovak)
What I think happened is this. These third generation feminists have been relentlessly attacking white men for decades now, without success. The only thing they achieved was a certain degree of MGTOW and a concerted middle finger from all half decent people in the world.

So they thought they would find another target, a softer target. So now they are going after white women.

So, what is for us, white nationalists to do? Pull white women into our middle finger waving line, turn our MGTOW course into the WPGTOW (white people go their own way) direction and let them howl their obscenities into the moon. Without white women, the feminist movement is just a bunch of negresses screaming for more handouts. White women are the only ones, who brought at least some brains to the feminist table, when they alienate white women, they will be on the level of that negress with 15 kids, who was on TV blabbering that "sumboy neez to pay fo my keez".

I think this is great. More women taking the red pill, more unity for the white race, stronger opposition to anti-whites.

Eventually we will clean our white lands of all the filth.

(White Falcon)
The LEFT gets bolder by the minute:

They now openly conduct Open Culture War against all Whites everywhere:

They have the balls to equate the American Flag with the Nazi and Confederate flags, and declare that the American flag represents "Genocide"!

The 100 year "Open Borders" policy of the American Republic, combined with the enormous birthrate among Non-Whites, has now produced enough Anti-White foot-soldiers to allow the LEFT to become super-confident in their Open War against White Civilization in North America

All Non-White school children are being taught that "all White People are evil"

Remember all the Anti-Columbus propoganda from last month?

THIS IS HOW FAR IT HAS COME!

(Roo)
It comes as no surprise that prominent Jewish Feminists are also prominent gun control advocates.

Red pill time!

Hear that, ladies? All you normie ladies who lurk out of curiosity, are you paying attention? They're for our "empowerment" while they disarm us. Makes sense? Of course it doesn't.

Look a little closer and see what else doesn't make any sense. Like at how they have to cut men down, so that we won't notice they're cutting us down as well - ever read a bunch of feminist material without feeling pitiful afterwards? Or angry? Or cheated?

Ever notice that no mater what you do, it's never good enough? If you choose career over family, your selfish - if you're a homemaker, your worthless.

Last November, you were reminded yet again that there's still a glass ceiling over your head, and that it doesn't matter how many panes are broken, it will never go away.

Aren't you tired of it?

Has anyone ever felt empowered by being reminded of their supposed "victimhood"?

My, my, my, it seems to be raining frogs, again.

various posters, Stormfront 10 Comments [12/16/2017 5:40:53 PM]
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