Quote# 123736

Western culture has progressively eroded the foundations of the traditional family for at least sixty years. Many on the left claim that the institution of marriage and traditional values are simply a relic of religious prejudice and a symbol of oppression. Part of the problem that allowed such frivolous conspiracy theories to spread was a lack of a comprehensive and objective explanation for why traditional monogamy was instituted in the first place by its defenders on the right. Appeals to divine authority, though effective with some populations, will simply not be sufficient to persuade the minimum number of people necessary in a secular culture to allow it to stay the dominant form of social organization it needs to be to support a thriving civilization. Though religious appeals for monogamous culture should not be thrown out, a secular defense of traditional culture needs to be built up to compliment the arguments of religious authorities.

One of the most useful consequences of a monogamous society is that it unleashes the creative and industrious potential in the largest number of men in society, thereby creating the foundations for a thriving and advancing civilization. In an age of free love, better described as pre-modern love, a significant portion of a man’s energy has to be expended fending off poaching attempts by other males or preventing capricious dalliances on the part of his mate. This is energy that would be much better utilized if directed towards building civilization.

However, the pro-civilizational effects of traditional values are not the only benefits worth considering. Rather than being neutral, the current system of soft polygamy (effective, but not institutionalized polygamy) has active negative attributes. Polygamy benefits men with high sexual market value and young women, but hurts men of middling to low SMV and older women. As high status men take multiple women out of the market place, the supply of women decreases for all other men.

One of the important solutions offered by traditional monogamous values is the prevention of men like Elliot Rodgers from being marginalized in the sexual market place and becoming deranged and violent. In cultures that allow the practice of polygamy, you generate a large underclass of men with no access to women. This leads to an increase in violence, crime, and excessive risk-taking by the frustrated men who are programmed by evolution to do whatever they can to secure reproductive success at any cost to themselves or society. From the standpoint of natural selection, everything is secondary to reproduction. If your current culture reduces your reproductive fitness to near zero, it is a rational, if morbid, instinct to try to disrupt that culture on the part of young men. If you “kick a friendly dog enough times, you get a nasty dog“.

The prevention of this kind of violence is one of the key reasons for having an institution of monogamous marriage. By monogamous marriage, I am not referring to the pale shadow of the institution that exists today. I refer to an institution that provides large disincentives to both men and women against breaking their vows, which is what existed through most of history. Monogamous marriage subordinates the hypergamous instincts of women to the interests of civilization. Those interests ultimately being to create order and general prosperity, which are more beneficial to women than their unbridled pursuit of the highest SMV males. Ironically, monogamous marriage and its motto of “one man, one wife” was probably the earliest egalitarian ideal. Though this ideal is often proven false in practice due to the innate differences between people, in the case of monogamous marriage it has proven the most conducive organization for advancing a prosperous and stable society. We throw that institution away at our peril. I don’t expect this warning to be heeded though, so you can expect many more Elliot Rodgers in the future.

Here is his chilling last video and his autobiography/manifesto.

Atavisionary, Atavisionary 6 Comments [1/19/2017 10:23:49 AM]
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Quote# 123734

Here again is the disturbing quote from Mr. Johnson: “I’m just not afraid of death. I don’t believe in anything, so therefore I’m not afraid what’s gonna happen afterward.” Oh, that is so foolish! I promise you that Mr. Brian Johnson will believe in God, the Holy Bible, Hell and judgment the very second that he enters Christless into eternity, leaving his earthly body behind. The rich man in Luke 16:19-32 didn't care either about spiritual matters, until he woke up in the fires of Hell in torments. But by then it was too late. One day soon, if Brian Johnson doesn't repent of his unbelief and come to Jesus Christ as His personal Savior, he will find himself in the fires of Hell begging God for a second chance, for mercy, but it will be too late for him (Luke 16:31). No doubt he will blame the Devil for his spiritual blindness, the way of the sin-cursed world, his heathen religious upbringing, and everything else he can think of when he feels the singeing flames of a scorching literal Hell, but IT WILL BE TOO LATE.

My friend, the “HIGHWAY TO HELL” is real, it is real, it is real. The world mocks and jokes, laughing as they foolishly sing “I'm On A Highway To Hell,” and they truly are. May I say, NOBODY IS LAUGHING IN HELL!!! (MP3 sermon by Evangelist Phil Kidd). All men ought to fear God, but especially those who have not accepted God's free grace for salvation. Eternal life is a free gift by faith in Christ Jesus, please don't leave earth without Him!

It's ironic, interesting and even indicting, that Mr. Johnson has made tens-of-millions of dollars singing, “I'M ON A HIGHWAY TO HELL” throughout his career. Johnson has a net worth of $90,000,000.[1] For a man who claims that he doesn't believe in anything, he sure sings a lot about Hell, fire and damnation. AC/DC has performed literally thousands of Rock concerts since the 1970's, making the world a more horrible place to live with their poison to men's souls. In their heavy-metal music AC/DC glorifies the sins of prostitution, fornication, violence, alcoholism, blaspheming God, et cetera. Their lyrics are sexually suggestive, explicit and shameful, paying their dues to Satan in a Rock 'N' Roll band. Oh, what a tragedy! Life is short, Hell is hot, and eternity is forever!

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Precious 19 Comments [1/19/2017 10:23:27 AM]
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Quote# 123730

In one of many experiences I have had with this phenomenon, I was out with my friend and a group of people he knows including the heroine of this anecdote. The first point where I could see that this young scold was troublesome and prone to quarreling with her neighbors was when she brought up a contemporaneous debit card hacking thefts from Target and other stores in order to perform a vitriolic diatribe. Being keen to participate in the group discussion, I made the innocuous observation that while the hacker’s actions were wrong and deserving of punishment, the technical mastery he required to accomplish the crime was undoubtedly impressive. That a person engaged in criminal activity could demonstrate impressive skills was too much of an abstraction for her and thus provoked her to reveal her quarrelsome nature in the form of various insults towards me. Fortunately, another member of the group mollified her by explaining that a person may simultaneously have concepts with both positive and negative connotations associated with them without there being a contradiction. The emotional “reasoning” of many females seems to stumble when confronted with this fundamental, yet subtle, truth. However, though the third party adequately explained that being impressed by something doesn’t mean you condone the act, I am not convinced that it was anything more than a mere Pavlovian response to the attitude of multiple peers which doused her temper rather than a true comprehension of the nuance involved.

Later that same evening, we were all sitting around a table and out of blue our heroine pointedly asks me “What were the longest relationships you were in?” Seeing no immediate need for subtlety or outright dishonesty I responded frankly that “2 years was my longest relationship, but to be fair it wasn’t with an American woman.” Dear me, this was not a tactful thing to say to the common American scold as they will in their solipsism invariably interpret any comment or statement to be descriptive of their own person. Though there were signs she was getting ever so huffy, to my discredit I was hopelessly oblivious to the volcano preparing to erupt before me. Responding to her quite earnest desire for clarification, I elaborated on the fact that I find most American women difficult to get along with for anything longer than a fling given that so many are common scolds (though I did not use this terminology at the time). To this her barely contained rage erupted with a rabid desire for acrimonious verbal combat, yet her rage was too great to craft more than a small sum of suitable slurs and so she simply stomped off somewhere to succor her now sore psyche.

Of course this would not prove to be the end of this anecdote. Our resident white knight decides to step up to defend our heroine’s fragile ego since she found herself lacking the skill to patch this bit of cognitive dissonance. Sir lancelot starts by trying to lecture me about what kind of opinions I am allowed to have and what I am allowed to say. Not being a pussy and possessing an acute loathing of white knights, I was quick to assert that he had no authority to lecture me or to define the acceptable range of opinions I was allowed to possess. Our heroine’s knight in shining armor was so prepared to defend her “honor” that he had the audacity to threaten me physically if I couldn’t be otherwise cowed. Though, or perhaps because, I made it clear I was prepared to accept his challenge to fisticuffs, the tense moment eventually passed without coming to blows and the night continued without further incident. To escalate this absurdity to even greater heights, Sir Lancelot did all this despite his Guinevere being foreign born.

Probably all men, or at least all American men, have experienced this sort of situation as a result of the unruly and irrational emotions of the common American scold. The question is, when the institution of patriarchy is restored because of necessity, what can the new order do to reduce the number and severity of the disturbances to the public peace caused by such women and their valiant saviors? I think that English common law, as detailed in the introductory poem and links, sets a fine precedent of how such socially disruptive backbiters can be disabled. When a queen of histrionics and her knights of the unstable are identified, the punishment used to correct the bad behavior should be focused on public shaming and minor physical discomfort. Such chastisement is an appropriate response to the indignities caused by common scolds because the guilty would likely be easily reformed for the public good with only a few treatments. This is especially true of the most egregious version of the common scold currently in existence, which are of course the feminists who acrimoniously agitate for social norms that destabilize and eventually destroy civilisation. A few public dunks on a cucking stool for the most heinous of these harpies would humanely cure them of their hysteria and thoroughly deter any other would-be agitators.

Atavisionary, Atavisionary 13 Comments [1/19/2017 10:21:32 AM]
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Quote# 123744

The male desire to own women is part of masculine psychology. Ownership of women can include the right to sex on demand and to the woman's faithfulness. Women have a complementary desire to be owned by men.

Article "Male desire to own women", Kings Wiki 31 Comments [1/18/2017 3:07:14 PM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 123743

Objectification is when someone treats another person like an object. Drexel Scott notes, "Generally, we love and appreciate our tools for helping us to build better things in our grand designs in life. A woman’s role in a man’s life is to provide her sexuality, femininity and childcare duties so that the man’s work in the external world will be supplemented and it brings them both to new heights of happiness and satisfaction."[1] CamelJockey notes, "The only women that against the objectification of women are unattractive women that no one wants to objectify to begin with. Pretty girls love being objectified. The ugly ones are mad they never get any attention. It's not that they're against the objectification, they are jealous of the objectification they're not getting." TrulySovereign notes, "Or has been stated here many times before, they do not like being objectified by men that are below the SMV male they are trying to attract."

Article "Objectification", Kings Wiki 13 Comments [1/18/2017 3:07:12 PM]
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Quote# 123742

Narcissism is the pursuit of gratification from vanity or egotistic admiration of one's own attributes. According to Illimitable Men, "All people with narcissistic personality disorder are narcissists, but not all narcissists have a personality disorder. A healthy dose of narcissism is a performance-enhancer, for it improves one’s effectiveness by amplifying their self-love, confidence and boldness."[1] According to Bonecrker:[2]

women do not ever want to hear anything about you (sad but true). Women always find this offensive and think the guy is narcissistic (a projection of what they actually are) even if his talking about himself is brief and in context to the situation. On the other hand, if you spend all your time asking leading questions about her and then fleshing out the details of her life, only pausing to add various compliments to her, she will think you are the most brilliant conversationalist in the world, even though you have basically said nothing. You can do this for hours and hours and she’ll never even think to ask anything about you. It’s downright bizarre and disturbing, once you’ve experienced it. But not as bizarre and disturbing as the effect it has on how they see you.


Illimitable Men notes that "whilst narcissism is a suit well-worn on a man, it is one ill-fitting for a woman. Whilst women are inherently drawn to male narcissism as overconfidence is the linchpin of good masculine game, female narcissism is unattractive to the majority of men. In women it manifests as bratty, spoiled 'hot girl behaviour' and men, especially top-tier men, don’t want to feel like they’re babysitting an overgrown child."[3]

It also notes, "Being grandiose never hindered a man’s chances of getting laid."[4]

The two types of narcissism are infantile and grandiose.

Heartiste advises, "Be narcissistic. There is no greater divergence than that between a woman’s stated disapproval of male narcissism and the rapidity with which she jumps into bed with a male narcissist."[5]

Article "Narcissism", Kings Wiki 15 Comments [1/18/2017 3:06:56 PM]
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Quote# 123741

Consent is willingness to engage in an activity.

Informed consent

Feminists often argue that sex with a woman is rape unless she not only consents but is able to give informed consent. Arguably, "informed consent" means being informed enough to be a responsible member of the pussy cartel – a whore who knows her price and who won't undercut other women.

Article "Consent", Kings Wiki 10 Comments [1/18/2017 3:06:54 PM]
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Quote# 123740

Allah is the god of Islam. He is said to be a continuation of a Mesopotamian moon god that was retained after the conversion of the Arabs to Islam.

Article "Allah", Kings Wiki 20 Comments [1/18/2017 3:06:51 PM]
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Quote# 123738

Sexual property, under patriarchy, is what wives are recognized as. Adultery is a crime against sexual property.[1] In the Jewish faith, women were seen as man's sexual property, but equal in comradeship, homemaking and parenthood (e.g. Fiddler on the Roof).

Carole Pateman notes, "The patriarchal construction of sexuality, what it means to be a sexual being, is to possess and to have access to sexual property. . . . In modern patriarchy, masculinity provides the paradigm for sexuality; and sexuality means sexual mastery. The 'individual is a man who makes use of a woman's body (sexual property); the converse is much harder to imagine."[2]

Stanford M. Lyman writes, "A nearly unbounded wrath is sometimes aroused by the appropriation of another's sexual property. Treated in the classic sociological essay by Kingsley Davis as jealousy, this emotional state and its attendant response are also understandable as an angry reaction to lost self-esteem. . . . Of all the types of properties over which dominion is sought, sexual property seems to evoke the most intimate connection to self-worth. The bonds of love or affection express not only one's own feelings toward the other, but also an implicit reciprocal image of these feelings toward oneself. . . . Sexual property above all others is likely to engender vanity and pride in, and satisfy a fundamental need of, its possessor. Accordingly, an attack on one's sexual property usually cuts a deep wound in one's self-esteem. . . . A jealous regard for one's own dearly purchased prize in the marketplace of love may arouse the most intense fears, deepest insecurities, and ultimately his most ferocious wrath as a threatened possessor fights to preserve his pride, passion, and property. And precisely because jealousy arises out of the most significant elements of self-esteem, its fury might know no bounds."[3]

Thus, it should come as no surprise that when wives refuse to fulfill their proper roles as sexual property, their husbands sometimes get angry, as she is essentially appropriating herself.

Article "Sexual Property", Kings Wiki 15 Comments [1/18/2017 3:06:40 PM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 123737

[Thread "Is /r/Physical_Removal a hate sub? If so, I really feel we should bring more attention to it"]

From Wardenclyffe56

Of course it's a hate sub. Hate for commies and leftists. What do they think we want to "physically remove"? We adore Pinochet, someone that did it to hundreds. Think McFly, think.

"Helicopter rides are too merciful for the communist scum


"

From Drapetomania

It's actually a sub about love. Commies reach their full potential by being dropped out of helicopters. We're for what's best for everyone.


Wardenclyffe56 and Drapetomania, Reddit - r/Physical_Removal 9 Comments [1/18/2017 3:06:35 PM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 123733

I went home and went to bed. That night the Lord visited me in a dream. I saw the spirit he was tall about 7 ft. skinny and resembled an very un-kept man. He used to try and follow me after I left his house. But somehow I’d escape him, I suppose it was because I was always praying on my way home. He turned up outside my house and I remember running in and looking out of my letter hole. There was a man by my gate attending to the rubbish. The spirit said to him, “Where is that boy? Where did he go?” I remember peeking out the letterbox and thinking ‘Don’t you tell him.’ but the man pointed at my house. Strange thing was, I noticed the spirit couldn’t get past the man, and he returned back to my friend’s house. That man was an angel that stood guard outside my home.

I must have woken up and went back to sleep as there was a second part to the dream. In the dream the Lord sent me a letter with instructions on it. I remember the letter, it was A4 paper, outlined and the words were in red ink. This was the first of many of those letters in my life.

On the paper it said to return to my friends and cast the demon out.
I STRONGLY don’t believe you have to know names of demons to cast them out, BUT I was told his name of which I have never repeated again, AND to cast him out in the name of Jesus.
I was terrified the next day when I woke up. I had never done anything like this before. I have to admit I felt a bit stupid also. My friend knows me from school before I gave my heart to the Lord, so all the worse thoughts of ridicule was swirling about in my head. I went to another friend’s house to speak to his mother about my dream (They are believers), and his mother said go and do what the Lord is saying and she prayed for me. This was after I had told my own mother. She was scared and said “Don’t get involved! Stay out of it.”

I went to my friend’s house and prayed for him later that day. As I stepped into his house that knowledge came back to me, it was the Lords will I believe, and I told my friend what it was. We giggled and sniggered after I told him my dream and what the Lord has commanded me to do. I said to him the Lord says he will set you free. After I pray for you the demon will leave and your body will be left to recover naturally, within two weeks you will be back outside. I also said the Lord said to tell you, if he helps you and you turn your back on him the spirit will return with more. And you will see that your situation will be worse than now. I asked him if he still wanted me to go ahead with this and he said yes, so I did. It was a normal prayer, the best a new-born Christian could do, lol. There was no shouting, laying on of hands, dancing or heavy poetry, just a few simple words from a shy 17-year-old. Within two weeks, he was back outside and fully recovered. That’s his words not mine.

J.J Sylvester, Kingdom Daughter Blog 5 Comments [1/18/2017 2:27:38 PM]
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Quote# 123731

Diverting the most capable women away from reproduction is dysgenic

A large variety of research and common experience has made clear that cognitive and physical sexual dimorphism already exists, hence the tendency of men to outperform in areas necessary for productive labor including physical strength, mathematics, and mechanical or scientific reasoning. It is also apparent in the difference between men and women in cranial capacity. Males average between 100 and 200 cubic centimeter larger capacity depending on the methods used in a given study. This study found an average of 123 cubic centimeter difference favoring males on average, but also found a lot of variation for both genders. Larger cranial capacity correlates well with higher intelligence and as a group men tend to have larger brains.

Income, which is a decent proxy for intelligence, correlates heavily with childlessness. Importantly, the correlation goes in the opposite direction for men than it does for women. High income men are much less likely to be childless, whereas high earning women are with even greater probability much more likely to be childless. In biology, this contradictory relation between intelligence and fertility would be described as a sexually antagonistic trait because it increases reproductive fitness of one sex (males) and decreases it in the other (females). As such, these genes are under conflicting selection pressures as they pass between genders over the course of multiple generations. This creates a large incentive to evolve sexually dimorphic expression patterns which can silence or diminish expression of intelligence genes in females while allowing the same genes to be turned on in males. Intelligence being a sexually dimorphic trait is parsimoniously explained by its divergent consequences to fertility depending on gender.

The lesson here is clear. The huge direct costs, opportunity costs, and the inefficiencies created from reserving jobs for women that they aren’t biologically suited for aren’t just unaffordable. Diverting women away from motherhood disproportionately and negatively impacts the fertility of the the most intelligent women; the most intelligent women being the ones most likely to be capable of successful careers and high incomes. Any policy or culture that prioritizes pushing women into the workforce does so at the expense of motherhood among the natural aristocracy and is by its nature dysgenic. The result in the short term is decreasing the average intelligence of the population and greatly exaggerated sexual dimorphism favoring male intelligence in the long run. Traditional environments (patriarchy) minimized the shredding of intelligence traits that passed through women to some degree by prioritizing reproduction even for capable women. If the current environment doesn’t send humanity back to the stone age first, then it will likely create a version of humanity of very smart men and dumb women as mechanisms evolve to safeguard intelligence genes while they temporarily pass through females. Lameness of mind will be protective against a loss in fertility for women and income potential that can only result from intelligence being indispensable for male fertility will also be preserved. The selection pressures set up by feminists will ironically create a population of feeble minded women. This is of course assuming that civilization is somehow able to maintain itself long enough and the current pattern of abysmal fertility in intelligent women holds. However, it is in no way clear that this is the case. So insidious are the effects of deprioritizing motherhood that any culture who implements them is patently suicidal.

The drop of fertility rates across the west and the concomitant decline in western civilization that will result can be blamed to a significant extent on the misallocation of life priorities among western women by their own poor choices and at the irresponsible prodding of the progressive culture. The future belongs to those who show up. Humanity as a whole will return to traditional gender roles because the groups where women prioritize motherhood will displace the cultures who don’t through demographic increase and eventual subjugation.

The real question is whether or not the west will have a place in that future. The west can either accept that harsh biological reality has allotted motherhood as the primary raison d’etre of women, or it can be displaced by less advanced and less benevolent cultures who haven’t forgotten that reality. Considering that it was the people and culture of the west who almost single-handedly brought humanity into the modern age, the loss of the western races and subsequently western culture would be a very sore blow not only to those people, but to humanity generally. The only morality is civilization, and unfortunately the unpleasant truth is that significant female enfranchisement is dysgenic and destroys civilization. Since prioritizing anything but motherhood for women works against civilization, it is by definition immoral and any sane polity will take every necessary step to minimize women, and especially intelligent women, from making anything other than motherhood the primary devotion of their life.

To preserve western culture, motherhood in a patriarchal context must be reinstated. It is often complained that such an arrangement is more unfair to women. In reality, the demands the patriarchal system makes on men are and always have been much more challenging than those it makes on women, as is evidenced by the 5-7 years shorter life expectancy for men. Men will accept this high price since the patriarchal system is the only way that the legitimacy of their children can be guaranteed. Far from being unfair to women, the advantages to women of sacrificing careers and promiscuity are many and include a guarantee of male attention and provisioning into old age.

Moreover, making motherhood the primary devotion of women’s lives does not mean the only devotion. Modern technology created by men greatly decreases the necessary housekeeping efforts required to maintain a home and advances in robotics will likely continue this trend. As such, Women will be afforded much opportunity and freedom to pursue virtually any interest once the necessary child rearing duties are performed. Some care will need to be taken by neopatriarchs to guarantee that there is ample opportunity for women to find meaning and purpose in their lives once their motherly responsibilities are complete. For the most part this is likely a spiritual question, however aesthetics and culture also seem like especially likely candidates for pursuit. What can’t be neglected or forgotten is that the environment that gave birth to modern dysgenic feminism was a large population of idle housewives and their relatively weak husbands. Women have an innate tendency to organize and then collectively nag and otherwise agitate for various ill-conceived reforms when they have nothing better to do. Feminism is only the most destructive consequence of this tendency. The temperance movement is another example. More productive outlets for this energy will have to be found.

And of course, the least appreciated advantage to women as a population is the partial protection of intelligence traits which prevents run-away increases in sexual dimorphism and further depression of female cognitive ability.

Atavisionary, Atavisionary 12 Comments [1/18/2017 1:41:51 PM]
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Quote# 123729

[How does awareness of genetic differences between the sexes factor into understanding a Neoreaction or right-wing platform?]

The over-arching goal of most western right-wing movements is to preserve western civilization for ourselves and especially make it available for all of our descendants. By “our” I am very specifically referring to white Europeans and their descendants throughout the world. Two very major problems are caused by female “emancipation” which are in direct contradiction of that goal. There are of course other things of concern, but I am only referring to gender relations here. The most important is the lowering of the birth-rate of ethnic Europeans. It is well-known that most European populations have a birth-rate under replacement level and that if this continues European ethnicities will eventually cease to exist. Unfortunately, our time to fix this problem is much less than it could be because of our mass importation of swarthy people from around the world. Most of these groups have a higher birthrate than the native populations and won’t hesitate to subjugate them once their numbers reach a critical mass. If we don’t do something in the next couple of generations it is very likely we will start seeing the events that have destroyed South Africa and Rhodesia repeated in most western countries. At that point however, there won’t be a strong US or European countries to suppress white interests from overseas like in those cases so I imagine things would get very bloody indeed. This is something that could and should be avoided.

Female education and employment are directly causal of this low birthrate. Setting women on paths other than motherhood obviously has a direct negative impact on birth rates. However, it also has an indirect negative impact on birth rate because it interferes with the male ability to signal provider status to the satisfaction of female hypergamy. If you take jobs from men and give them to women artificially through government regulations, you cause a lot of men to not be able to get jobs at a level they are capable of. These men are much poorer than they need to be and thus their ability to attract wives is substantially reduced. Mass immigration policies, affirmative action for swarthies, and free trade agreements do something very similar by increasing labor competition and even giving unfair and unearned advantages to the new-comers. All these policies are extremely bad for working class whites (and blacks descended from the original slave population in the US). Some men may be consciously choosing not to have kids and just play video games, but it shouldn’t be underestimated how much the lack of decent employment opportunities for white men are killing the west.

There is also another problem, not as dire but still important. As is shown in the book, the most capable humans a population is able to produce are going to be almost exclusively male. By setting up quotas for women you introduce massive inefficiencies in the economy which reduces the wealth of the country as a whole and thus its ability to maintain itself and a good standard of living for its people. This is partially the result of putting women into positions they aren’t psychologically or intellectually suited for and also through the creation of make-work jobs which require massive wealth redistribution from taxpayers. Most taxes are paid by men and that is all wealth those men can’t use to have 1 or 2 additional children.

Understanding the biological differences in intelligence, then, are very important in articulating why what we are doing today in these massive wealth redistribution plans are ultimately pointless and actively harmful. Our policies are based on a false premise: gender equality. By knocking out that premise you destroy the justification for some of the worst policies that are causing the collapse of the west. These are all things that traditionalists have all addressed before, but now that have more ammo for their arguments that didn’t exist in such a condensed form before.

...

[What do you hope will happen in the future, if things go really well, and what would life in America and Europe look like after that?]

Affirmative action would be abolished. Most of the university system would be dismantled leaving only training in demonstrably useful and needed fields. The people who would have previously pursued useless degrees would instead focus on motherhood (women) and technical vocations (men). These people would not be encouraged to take on massive debt. 3-4 White children would be born in wedlock to every family and divorce would not occur at all, or at least not until after all children were raised to adults. Alimony and child support would not exist. Focus on GDP growth would be heavily tempered by concern for the cultural and economic health of native populations. Immigration would be all but halted. New arrivals would be given strong incentives to move back to their country of origin with their children. Anchor babies would not be a legal possibility. Ethnic groups which dislike whites and for whom repatriation is impractical would be given countries of their own where they would be expected to move, and they would have full self-determination. Islam would be banned completely in all western countries. Africa would learn to control their insane population growth. Enforced diversity in housing would be abolished. Freedom of association would be an enshrined right of every person and group. I am sure there is more things I could think of, but I think you get the idea.

Roderick Kaine, Amerika 9 Comments [1/18/2017 12:32:42 PM]
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Quote# 123728

[From a review of "Smart and SeXy"]

Impartial studies have revealed that HR women often use their influence in the hiring process not to advance the interests of the company but to screen for potential boyfriends and exclude female rivals: better-looking men are more likely to be given job interviews, while better-looking women are less likely.

Women’s move into the workplace has inevitably been accompanied by demands to remake workplaces so as to be more convenient to women. For example, one obvious consequence of female careerism is that many men are tempted to flirt with female coworkers. There is nothing intrinsically wrong with such behavior. As the author points out, flirting is something men have evolved to do, and “the species could not propagate without this behavior.” But most of these men do not come close to the wealthy movie stars and romance novel heroes with which the modern woman’s imagination has been filled. So women have demanded and gotten an administrative and legal regime which prohibits male flirting wherever it is “unwelcome” (i.e., whenever the man is unattractive). This is not merely unfair to these men. As the author points out, another “problem with criminalizing these men is that their labor and contributions are several orders of magnitude more valuable than the contributions of the women who make allegations.” It is also highly hypocritical on the part of women in view of their own demonstrated tendency, as described above, to use their jobs to advance their own sexual strategies.

Government work, being unconstrained by the need for profitability, is better able to absorb the costs of hiring large numbers of women, and accordingly women are 50 percent more likely to work for the government than men. Almost 60 percent of state and local government workers are women.

The feminists whose demands created our present employment regime want, in effect, for the cost of women’s behavior and decisions to be externalized to employers, customers, fellow employees and tax payers. Indeed, once all these hidden costs are factored out, it is unclear just how many “working” women are actually engaged in any sort of productive labor; the author suggests that the numbers may be as low as 30 percent, and there is little evidence women as a whole could ever become truly independent in the economic sense (although many women in the contemporary West are undoubtedly “independent” in the sense that they do as they please).

The cure for such waste is simply not to have many women in highly demanding positions. If they must work, they can be restricted to positions able to tolerate lower dedication.

The extension of political rights to women also involves high and sometimes hidden costs. Female influence in public life, wherever it exists, always follows a pattern which has been termed “the feminine imperative.” Kaine defines it as a “push to shape the social and legal institutions of society such that they benefit women specifically without much interest in whether those changes are harmful to men and civilization generally.” Thus, in contemporary America, women support the growth of the welfare state because its main beneficiaries are single mothers and the disproportionately female elderly population. Although the author does not discuss this, it has recently been suggested that female enthusiasm for “refugees” is a displacement of the maternal instinct to a domain where it is counterproductive. This whole question of the sources of female political behavior might be a fertile domain for scientific research once ideological controls are eased.

The author notes that

"women have a long history of being the main driving force behind hysterical cultural movements that seek massive top down control of behavior. The temperance movement has a lot of similarity to modern rape and sexual harassment hysteria. In the past, this hysteria was considered a female-specific mental disorder; women seem to be especially susceptible to the combination of highly emotional, frenetic and illogical thinking characteristic of hysteria."

But in recent decades, the very term “hysteria” has been banished from the vocabulary of psychiatry for what may be nothing more than ideological reasons.

Feminists promised that the entry of women into the workforce would unleash enormous reserves of previously untapped human talent and usher in greater prosperity and happiness for all. Instead, it has imposed vast new costs, particularly on men and taxpayers as a whole. And women themselves do not seem particularly happy under the new arrangements either: one in four American women are now on some kind of psychiatric medication just to get through the day.

The sexual consequences of this social revolution have been dire. White birthrates are below replacement across the West, and the most intelligent women are worst affected. As the author states, “the current average age of first birth for highly educated women is 32, and 1 in 4 highly educated women never have any children at all; a deeply dysgenic pattern.”

Kaine is admirably forthright in drawing his conclusions:

"The once symbiotic relationship [between the sexes] has morphed into a parasitic relationship where women depend on the coercive power of the government to extract wealth from men while providing little to men in return. . . . In essence, this is a free rider problem in which women want the benefits of civilization, but do not cooperate with the needs of the group to make civilization possible. . . . Progressively larger amounts of money [are] being taken directly from the pockets of men to pay for a largely ungrateful and ever more demanding population of women. This is wealth that productive men should be spending on their own families and children. . . . Reversing the dire consequences of feminist inspired policies and cultural beliefs thus constitute an urgent and existential imperative for the West if it is going to survive."

I couldn’t have put it better myself. If the West does survive, its future historians will marvel that a relative handful of women were able to turn the most advanced society in the history of the world upside down against the interests of the overwhelming majority of women and men merely to satisfy the imperatives of an ideology based on resentment and without any empirical support.

I was unfamiliar with Roderick Kaine until I came across this book from Arktos. He is clearly a gifted writer with an unusual ability to combine technical mastery of the hard sciences with sound social and political thinking. I hope we shall be hearing more from him in the future.

F. Roger Devlin, Counter Currents 13 Comments [1/18/2017 12:32:21 PM]
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Quote# 123727

[OP of "Incel is more than just not getting sex"]

It's an ideology, it's a way of life. There are people out there who don't get attention from females, but it doesn't necessarily mean they're Incel. To be Incel they need to follow the Incel ideology, if they don't, then they're just failed normies.

incel_, Reddit - r/IncelPurgatory 22 Comments [1/18/2017 12:32:11 PM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 123712

Get the Popcorn Ready: "Return of the Daughters" has...returned

The Botkin sisters, Anna Sofia and Elizabeth, were raised in (and AFAIK are still part of) a Dominionist cult - and their local chapter, home, where they still live while pushing 30, is run by daddy. (If you watch the linked vid, you'll soon see why their fate is at once tragic, ironic, and...darkly funny, for all the Botkins' collectively egotistical posturing and ridiculously bloated CVs.)

The Botkin Family used to develop various media to consign for sale through a now-defunct parachurch organisation called Vision Forum.

What makes the linked Youtube.com video, Return of the Daughters, so special - aside from the obvious and very fundie insanity - is that one of the interviewed daughters also worked as a nanny for Doug Phillips, then CEO of Vision Forum.

This man lived the high life, travelling the world while "interns" pushed all manner of fundie material to pay for his adventures in dress-up land.

He was a pastor. Now, however, his brand is tarnished for his allegedly having been sexually inappropriate with that nanny (who sued him).

For a long time, this film simply disappeared, reappearing again only after the suit was dropped, settled out of court, and subject to a fucking gag order.

...and so now the film is not only back but, in a first for the Botkins, it's available to watch for free.

Information about the suit and its fallout can be found here:

http://tinyurl.com/zvja84t

Anna Sofia and Elizabeth Botkin, Youtube.com  3 Comments [1/18/2017 9:18:51 AM]
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Submitted By: Psycho Tits

Quote# 123676

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This shirt features a helicopter and a falling man and the words "training to throw communists out of helicopters" and is perfect for showing your love for heroes like Augusto Pinochet and disdain for leftists of all shades while getting swole at the gym.

[Image changed to link due to size. –shy]

Right Wing Death Squad, Right Wing Death Squad 14 Comments [1/18/2017 9:18:29 AM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 123724

Reminder that normies are heavily inferior to Incels

So we got raided again. This marks my divine duty to refresh the memories of the normies on how inferior they are.

Unlike the majority of Incels, you normies are as average as it gets, with no remarkable qualities, while INcels are gifted with superior intellect, wit and last but not least morality.

Our heightened state of celibacy allows us to transcend human intelligence, which even most of you normies lack. You being here means your life is at a disasterous state.

BeingaHero, /r/incels 43 Comments [1/18/2017 9:16:40 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 123719

This is how a True Christian Patriarch protects his daughter:

"In 2003, I took my daughter with me on a mission trip to Romania. On the plane, there was a drunken man flirting with her in a very aggressive way.

"Unfortunately for him, there were 535 pounds of manhood in our party ready to protect her. Believe me, we were exercising much Christian patience with this man who persisted throughout the entire flight. He did not realize that he was facing deadly force, if he persisted.

"He actually touched her once and was making bold advances. He even continued the pursuit after the plane landed. I am convinced that, if we had not been with her to protect her, she would have been in serious danger.”


Okay, so a drunken man (a) makes lewd remarks, (b) actually puts his hands on the woman, and (c) stalks her after she deplanes.

Wow. It's a good thing for that man he didn't push things far enough to rouse the anger of 535 lbs of malicious idiocy.

Scott Brown (NCFIC), Archived at 'Semper Eadem' 15 Comments [1/18/2017 9:16:16 AM]
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Submitted By: Psycho Tits

Quote# 123716

One thing that really confused us, was that while we were there at Cal Poly, and in the surrounding area of San Luis Obispo, we would feel the earth beneath us, ever so slightly, rock and sway back and forth. It was VERY unsettling. At first I thought it was just me, and that I was having really odd dizzy spells, but most of us experienced it, and no one had any other signs or symptoms of any illness. It only happened on campus or in that city. We did not feel it at all in Morro Bay. There the earth beneath us remained steady. When we returned home, I found a small article on how the campus and the city keeps having to do repairs to their buildings, because of the constant swaying and rocking of the ground beneath them. I remembered reading a prophecy about the west coast, and how it was actually made up of thousands of small honeycombed pockets of air and soil, deep down in the crust. The prophecy claimed that one day, this would give way, and the whole area would collapse into the ocean. A part of me marvels at how complacent the leaders are there. Don’t they care that the earth beneath them is constantly moving?

I did some research, and found that there is a Christian support group there in San Luis Obispo. The campus refuses to have anything to do with them, because the group only wants believers to join, and the college believes this to be discrimination. I also found that the college supports the suppression of a person’s free speech/first amendment, when it comes to being a Republican or a Christian.

So, I post this as a word of warning to other believers out there, especially those who are thinking of sending their children to Cal Poly. Know that there is a huge evil spirit emanating from that campus, and it is blocking out the light of believers.

I also give out the warning, to anyone living in that area; if you hear the Lord telling you to move out from that area, THEN DO SO! For the land beneath you is unsteady, and one day it may suddenly crumble and not be there any more.

Dreams of Dunamis, Dreams of Dunamis 11 Comments [1/18/2017 9:15:48 AM]
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Quote# 123715

A fellow blogger from A Spiritual Warfare Devotional Blog, encouraged me to write yet another experience I had with, well, demons. Some of you may not believe, but I will say yet again, they are real, very real. So here it goes…

I was baptized in August of 2015, August 16th, to be exact. Best Sunday of my life! After I was baptized I had a few experiences, even before then, but it was after I was baptized that I sensed more of the spiritual realm, or it became more real for me. One evening, it was about 5pm on a Thursday or Friday, I was cleaning, doing my chores for the weekend so I didn’t have to be running around doing it all weekend long. I had been playing my music from Pandora, I had on some spanish worship music and singing along while cleaning. I was really into it, because some songs made me get emotional. I kept cleaning. Then the music would stop mid song. I’d check my phone and see that it had just stopped, so I’d push play and it would restart the song or skip to the next song. This happened quite a few times and I’m like what the heck. I checked and rechecked my internet router to make sure it worked. Everything was fine. As I was knelt down checking it, that’s when I felt I was not alone. I was the only one home at the time. My son was at football practice. So I prayed and continued with my chores. I just stopped playing the music altogether because it was taking up more time for me to check and recheck it because of it stopping. (In hindsight, they didn’t like what I was playing) I had the feeling of anxiety. I don’t know if any or a few of you have ever been in a physical altercation with someone, but I got the feeling of someone about to invade my personal space. I trained in MMA (Mixed Martial Arts) and boxing, so I knew when it would be hand to hand combat you’d get an adrenaline rush. Well that’s the best I can describe it. I had the feeling someone was about to pounce on me. I had to keep checking behind my back. I was very uneasy. It was light out yet, but my house seemed darker than usual. I prayed some more. It wouldn’t back down. I said aloud, “You need to get out of my house, I belong to my Father God, you are no one, in Jesus name I command you to leave!” That made me feel better, my anxiety subsided just a bit. It was almost time for my son to get home from practice, so I jumped in the shower quick and as I was washing my hair, I felt that feeling of not being alone, I poked my head out of the shower and nothing. I had left the bathroom door open and through the curtain, I could see the sunlight coming in through the dining room windows which was across the hall. I continue to shower and I don’t know why I looked but I saw, through the curtain, a hunched over figure walk right in front the windows. Mind you, I live on the 2nd floor. There’s no way, it was someone from outside. I jerked that curtain open so fast, but there was nothing there. But that feeling of anxiety was back and the air seemed thicker. I quickly began to pray and shouted, “I COMMAND YOU IN THE NAME OF JESUS, TO GET OUT OF MY HOUSE! YOU ARE NOT WELCOME HERE!” I messaged my lil big bro Carlos and told him what was happening. He’s a real prayer warrior, intercessor. He prayed and I prayed as well from home. I felt much better, just in time for when my son came home. Needless to say, I was worried to go to sleep, but then thought, NO! My God’s got me. I went to sleep and was ok, for the time being………

Andi Garcia, Kingdom Daughter Blog 12 Comments [1/18/2017 9:15:35 AM]
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Quote# 123714

Many churchgoers today have been sinfully deceived to worship Israel instead of the God of Israel. Unsaved Jews die in their sins and go to Hell forever and ever! There is no blessing from God to Christ-rejecting Jews. The Bible clearly teaches that there is neither Jew nor Gentile in Christ Jesus (Galatians 3:26-29).

We are all sinners. It is unbiblical and sinful to elevate Jews over Gentiles. God is no respecter of persons (Acts 10:34; Colossians 3:25). God NEVER blesses those who are disobedient, whether they be Jew or Gentile. God blesses those who bless Christians, and curses those who curse Christians (Matthew 25:40, 45). Christians are the “chosen” (1st Peter 2:9).

Pastor Lawson refers to modern Israel as a “miracle,” but it was not a miracle. The holocaust (a massacre) was deliberately caused by world Luciferians powers, to become a pretext for forcing a new nation of Israel in Palestine. Please read the eye-opening book, “Wall Street And The Rise Of Hitler.” Arabs were driven out by British troops at gunpoint from their homes, allowed to take only what they could carry with them. That's called stealing! God allowed king Nebuchadnezzar (Babylon) in 586 BC to annihilate Jerusalem, which caused the nation to cease to exist.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Precious 11 Comments [1/18/2017 9:15:17 AM]
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Quote# 123713

Did you read those awesome Scriptures!!! “THAT IN THE AGES TO COME HE MIGHT SHEW THE EXCEEDING RICHES OF HIS GRACE.” Oh, I see, you'd rather go the other route... “IN FLAMING FIRE TAKING VENGEANCE ON THEM THAT KNOW NOT GOD, AND THAT OBEY NOT THE GOSPEL OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST: Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power” (2nd Thessalonians 1:8-9). Are you serious? I hope that is not you my friend. I hope you are one of the “FEW THAT BE SAVED” (Luke 13:23-24).

The world is filled with unbelieving fools, who will spend eternity tormented “IN THE LAKE THAT BURNETH WITH FIRE AND BRIMSTONE: WHICH IS THE SECOND DEATH” (Revelation 21:8).

Atheists Have No Excuse!

The Bible teaches that all atheists are self-made, not natural. Romans 1:20-21, “For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.” Nobody just grows up to be an atheist. There is a progression of departure from the truth, “SO THAT THEY ARE WITHOUT EXCUSE”!

Long before someone declares to be an atheist, there is an ungrateful heart toward God that refuses to glorify (acknowledge) Him. I have heard people express bitterness toward God for bad things that have happened in their life. Don't blame God! Atheists always blame God for the world's problems. But it is men who are to blame!

Psalms 14:1-4, “The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good. The LORD looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God. They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one. Have all the workers of iniquity no knowledge? who eat up my people as they eat bread, and call not upon the LORD.”

Notice that the Scriptures say, “THEY” (i.e., MEN) are corrupt, have done abominable works, have gone aside and become filthy!!! Is that God's fault? Is God to blame for this spoiled rotten generation of ours? No, He is not! GOD IS A GOOD GOD!!! Americans drive the best of cars, eat themselves fat, live in the best of housing, yet they're unthankful and look down their snooty noses at Jesus (the poor, disabled, imprisoned, misfits and broken-hearted). We don't deserve God's blessings in America.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Precious 12 Comments [1/18/2017 9:15:09 AM]
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Quote# 123706

"Hitler's close boyhood friend from Linz, August Kubizek, wrote Adolf Hitler,
Mein Jugendfreund
(My Youth Friend), 'Adolf did not engage in love affairs
or flirtations. He always rejected the coquettish advances of girls or women.
Women and girls took an interest in him but he always evaded their endeavours'.
During deconstruction, it is customary that the person is sexually abused
in the manner which is most embarrassing to that person. In Hitler's case, he
was sodomised, creating a submissive distant respect for homosexuals like his
bodyguards and some of his highest-placed leaders. His natural bent was developed
into coprophilia (being shat on)...With each deconstruction an embarrassing
addiction is developed and filmed. With Hitler it was sadomasochism, coprophilia
and homosexuality. That is, he liked to be verbally abused and slapped around,
to have his head urinated on, his chest shat on, and to have sex with men".

PHEW! Really, no fucking wonder that sub-lice nazoid pervs adore this
shiteating, pissdrinking, cocksucking freak, huh?

Loose Cannon, Google Forums - soc.culture.israel 14 Comments [1/18/2017 9:13:42 AM]
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Submitted By: WarGoatHK417

Quote# 123723

Hi Eivind, I hope you liked "Sex and Culture". I scanned it and made it available on the internet.

Regarding the "Emancipation of Women", it is important to realize that this is only fully possible with government intervention or in a state of pure anarchy. The reason is simple. Women generally do not want to be responsible for supporting themselves and their children. They want men to help them with this. Most men are willing to do this in exchange for the woman's sexual fidelity. So in a libertarian society, female chastity and stable marriage would be the norm. An oppressive government frees (emancipates) women from having to make such a commitment by having absurd labor laws and divorce laws that favor women and effectively force men to provide for women. A state of pure anarchy is basically governance by thugs. In this case, the biggest bullies rob from other men and then women exchange sexual favors with these bullies in exchange for support. This is basically the state of nature in primitive tribes.



fschmidt, Eivind Berge's Blog 15 Comments [1/18/2017 1:35:26 AM]
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