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Quote# 121180

Original quote:

"I say atheism can not claim absolute morality and the morals they claim are taken from Christianity. Or at the least from religion.
So I am now calling on the atheist community to prove me wrong."

Champoogne:
I was raised to believe that you should treat others as you wish to be treated. That you should never force your will on someone else. And you don't really need to be on this planet very long to realize that it's in everyone's best interests to get along. It's a lot more pleasant that way. We are all people sharing the same space and everyone's got the right to live comfortably and harmoniously. And, I simply fail to see why God must be a part of that equation. Or any other higher power.

Mademoiselle:
Who taught you that? And who taught them that? So you aren't religious and think you don't need God to be moral? Maybe your parents weren't either but maybe your grandparents were or your grandparents parents.... And this is where they got it from:
Luke 6:31 (KJV)
"31 And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise."

Champoogne:
Or maybe it was a long string of atheists/agnostics? Why are you assuming that if we go back far enough in time we'll eventually hit someone who believed in God?

Mademoiselle:
Because we will. Unless you can prove otherwise.

Champoogne:
It doesn't work that way, sorry.
Extreme logic fail.

Mademoiselle:
Yes it does. Provide proof that every single one of your ancestors have never ever ever been exposed to and influenced by Christianity.

Mademoiselle, Disqus - "Faith & Religion" forum 20 Comments [8/19/2016 3:35:30 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 121179



[ Is it acceptable that, I as a black woman am allowed to be afraid of white people because my white ex boyfriend abused me sexually, physically and mentally? ]

abuse mention tw, sexual abuse mention tw,
Most definitely and absolutely.
So, I always look at it this way:
Marginalized people (which you as a black woman most definitely are) have every single right to be afraid of/hate etc. their oppressors. Both because let’s be honest, it’s not like the oppressing groups are known for treating marginalized people well, but also because of power imbalances.
When a black trans woman (not saying that you are, just to make an example) is afraid of a white cis dude, her fear is not unfounded, because even if he’s the nicest person in the world, he has the power to do to her whatever he likes, and the law, and society will more than likely be on his side.
When a white cis dude is scared of a black woman, the power imbalance works for him, not against. Even if the white cis dude in question has a bad history, at the end of the day he’s safe. Being white, he’s in the position of power, being a man, his power is increased. His fear is based off (maybe) personal experience, racism, and misogyny. The black woman’s fear is based off a shitty society full of misogyny and racism, and a need for safety.
To look at things in another light:
When a white person is afraid of a poc, they are perpetuating those stereotypes, which lead to violence against poc, and general discrimination against poc. When poc are afraid of white people, there are no negative repercussions for said white people. White people aren’t loosing jobs because they’re viewed as “violent”. White people are being stopped by cops, because it’s just assumed that they’re selling drugs. White people aren’t being required to prove that they’re legal citizens because they don’t “look american.” In this way, poc disliking/fearing etc. white people, is not, and can not be the same. This is also why “reverse racism” isn’t a thing. This logic is also true for woman, trans people, and so on.
Poc have every right to be afraid, uncomfortable around, dislike, etc. white people (even if there’s no abuse history present, although that only makes it more understandable). To go even further, if poc decide they don’t want any white friends, or people to be involved in their personal life, cool. There’s nothing wrong with that. (In the same vein, if trans people decide they only want trans people in their life, there’s nothing wrong with that. If disabled people decide they only want disabled people in their life, there’s nothing wrong with that, and so on.)
You don’t owe anyone anything. You don’t need to like white people, you don’t need to want to be around white people, and that doesn’t make you a bad person. The most important thing is your comfort, safety, and well being.
Also, I hope you’re okay now! If you ever need to talk, I’m here! And please know that your experiences are completely valid, and that your emotions/feelings on the matter, and what you’ve been through are also completely and entirely valid. I know there’s a lot of “love your oppressor or you’re just as bad uwu” stuff out there, but please know that that is not true. That message is honestly so toxic, and I really hate how common it is.
I don’t know if this is something you’re looking for more information on, and you may already follow them, but I’ve heard really good things about the blog ablackwomansurvivingrape-I don’t follow it since I’m neither black, nor a woman, but I’ve heard good things about it as a blog, so you may want to check them out, if you’re ever looking for specific resources in regards to healing from the things you’ve been through.
Survivor-surviving is another really good one, that handles abuse in general (although it isn’t gender or race specific) and has a ton of useful information.
I hope this finds you well, and that you’re okay!

[ Im the anon who has a friend who fears black girls because of prior abuse/bullying. I dont think she is a bad person at all. She is just damaged and scared. She doesn 't really hate black girls. She just scared of them because she had nothing but bad expieriences with them. She has a hard time trusting people and making friends because bullies spread horrible rumours about her. She is a very nice person.. ]


racism tw, anti-black racism tw, abuse mention tw, bullying mention tw

Alright, so I’m just going to be honest with you.
If you’re mean to/mistrusting/mistreating/afraid of/exotificing/simplifying etc. a marginalized group of people (especially black women, and black trans women) you are not a good person. This is racism at minimum, and it’s a problem.
Based off the way this ask is phrased I’m assuming you are not in fact a black girl. So your friend is probably super cool to you. But is she super cool to her black woman doctor? To her black lady barista? To the black girl that asks to sit next to her on the bus? Because I suspect they might have a different answer then you.
And frankly, being abused, and being bullied is not an excuse. It’s awful that she was bullied-I’m not denying that. Bullying is horrific, and it has lasting effects and I’m sorry she went through with that. However, that is no excuse for racism. That does not make racism, or this kind of treatment of black women okay. And trying to justify it as such is super gross.

river, proudly-pro-choice 27 Comments [8/19/2016 3:35:18 AM]
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Quote# 121175

NB: Kuru is a fatal disease endemic to tribal areas of Papua New Guinea caused by eating human brains.

I was reading on Walid Shoebat's website that Kuru was an almost extinct disease, but is now making a huge comeback. Especially in Syria, in which Muslim's evidently practice ritual human sacrifice and then eat the person. One of the articles I read said that 8 in 20 people in Syria is infected. That is a lot!

tiffanybw, Rapture Ready 25 Comments [8/19/2016 3:34:17 AM]
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Submitted By: solomongrundy

Quote# 121174

It is more amazing that billions of Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Shintos, and Atheists have died rejecting ,Jesus Christ as their Savior and they are now being tortured in Hades for eternity. Are you ready to join them?

Barry Fitzgerald, Christian News Network 18 Comments [8/19/2016 3:27:27 AM]
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Quote# 121172

Christians really do not "think" the Bible was written at the hand of GOD, we 'KNOW' that it was written just as HE dictated!!!!

Myrtle Linder, Christian News Network 17 Comments [8/19/2016 3:22:17 AM]
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Quote# 121171

If you think it doesn't matter who wins, wait until Hillary announces to the Millennials that she found an extra ONE TRILLION DOLLARS a year for them to have in their grubby little hands by euthenizing those on Social Security and Disability -- "those who are a drain on our economy." That is, afterall, the next progressive thing to do.

I watched the Democrats in 2008 and 2012 whip their followers into a frenzy by thinking that by "eliminating" the 1% that they would have access to all their physical assets and money that were being denied to them. This nation is ripe for the greatest immoral proposal ever made. Soylent Green. Bacon flavored grandparents.

Homesick777, Rapture Ready 17 Comments [8/19/2016 3:22:13 AM]
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Submitted By: solomongrundy

Quote# 121166

ISIS Just Outsmarted Every Single Democrat


Weeks after Democrats mocked Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump for his views on refugee migration, he has been proven right.

According to The Washington Examiner, German security officials are now warning that an attack in the country by Islamic State group affiliates was imminent, due to sleeper cell members who have entered Germany disguised as refugees.

Manfred Hauser, deputy head of Bavarian intelligence, said that Germans must stay vigilant. “We have to accept that we have hit squads and sleeper cells in Germany.”

“We have substantial reports that among the refugees are hit squads,” he explained.

Furthermore, he warned residents that they could expect another Islamic State group attack soon.

“We have irrefutable evidence that there is an ISIS command structure that makes an attack in Germany very likely,” Hauser said.

If it could happen in Germany and across Europe, it could happen in the United States too, and Republicans such as Donald Trump have been warning about this since the beginning.

Trump has become notorious for his views on immigration, especially when it comes to the refugee crisis around the world. He has called for better screening, but has also said that many of the refugees coming in to the country are Islamic State group soldiers.

Democrat presidential nominee Hillary Clinton has often criticized Trump for his views on such immigration, calling him hateful and bigoted. But it’s not just Republicans that are worried about the threat of ISIS.

CIA Director John Brennan — who does not view himself as a Democrat or Republican — has also warned of imminent attacks by the Islamic State group.


He said they would use “refugee streams, traditional smuggling routes and legitimate travel” to smuggle themselves into a country so they could plan even more attacks.

Share this story on Facebook and Twitter and us know what you think the U.S. should do about Muslim refugees.

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Conservative Tribune, Conservative Tribune 16 Comments [8/18/2016 3:42:17 AM]
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Quote# 121165

Gold Medalist Shooter Fires Massive Shot At Liberal Anti-Gunners


The Olympic games are supposed to be an apolitical gathering of athletes from around the world engaged in fierce but friendly competition in a variety of sports and sporting events.

Unfortunately, thanks to our hyper-partisan liberal media, the games are becoming increasingly more politicized, as reporters seemingly can’t help but inject their bias into the questions they ask of the athletes competing in the quadrennial games.

Take for example a recent TIME interview with gold medalist Olympic shooter Kim Rhode, who is attending her sixth Olympic games in Rio this year, where she stands to become the first female Olympian to win a medal in six straight games.

The 37-year-old skeet and trap shooter was pressed for her opinion on the issue of strict gun control as a response to incidents of gun violence, and she wasn’t afraid to tell the reporter exactly how she feels about it.

“We have that stigma attached to our sport,” explained Rhode. “When you are talking to a NASCAR driver, they’re not asked to comment on an incident that occurred with a vehicle.”

“We should have the right to keep and bear arms, to protect ourselves and our family,” she said. “The Second Amendment was put in there not just so we can go shoot skeet or go shoot trap. It was put in so we could defend our First Amendment, the freedom of speech, and also to defend ourselves against our own government.”

Rhode further stated that it was her intention to teach her 3-year-old son the same outlook on gun rights as he grew older.

“I hope to have him out there shooting, when he becomes of age,” she said. “I started when I was like 7 or 8 years old, and it was something that was a big deal in my family, to gain that right of passage.”

As to strict gun control laws being passed in the wake of tragic mass shootings or terrorist attacks, like the one in San Bernardino, not far from Rhode’s home in Los Angeles, she couldn’t be more in disagreement with the “misguided” politicians who react that way.

“My heart breaks for those people,” she said, but such tragedies merely “make we want to carry even more.”

“I shoot 500 to 1,000 rounds a day, so having to do a background check every time I purchase ammo, or every time I want to bring ammo in or out of a competition or a match, those are very challenging for me,” said Rhode, explaining the inconvenience of California’s new gun control laws.

“Also, I’ve had guns in my family for generations that have been passed down, and now I’m going to register them as assault weapons. And they will not be passed on to my son, or to me from my father,” she continued. “It definitely does affect me and give me a reason to speak out more.”

Rhode, who is sponsored by firearm manufacturers Beretta and Winchester, will shoot for another gold medal and a place in history on August 12.

Please share this on Facebook and Twitter to help spread the word about this gold medalist Olympic shooter that understands the Second Amendment and the gun rights it protects.

What do you think of what this Olympic shooter had to say about gun control and the Second Amendment? Scroll down to comment below!

Conservative Tribune, Conservative Tribune 27 Comments [8/18/2016 3:41:30 AM]
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Quote# 121164

Here’s Why The Media And Sponsors IGNORED This 6-Time Female Olympic Medalist

When American skeet-shooting champion Kim Rhode, 37, made Olympic history on Friday by winning a medal for the sixth year in a row, some liberal media outlets outright ignored her accomplishment, while others chose instead to insult her.

Take for instance NBC, which reported on her feat in the most perfunctory way possible, and then slammed Rhode for allegedly being less of an athlete than others.

“Many would argue that a shooter doing this is far less impressive than, say, a gymnast or a swimmer,” NBC hack Nick Zaccardi wrote. “The act of shooting requires fewer physical attributes, extending Olympic lifespans.”


Could he have been any more condescending?

"Skeet Star @KimRhode has been an idol for young shooters, now a sensation for all Olympic dreamers! #ShootLikeAGirl pic.twitter.com/UxfLi5Yyl3"

— USA Shooting (@USAShooting) August 13, 2016

Some suspect that the liberal media’s desire to either ignore her bash her stemmed from its unabashed hatred of the Second Amendment, which she proudly supports.

“We should have the right to keep and bear arms, to protect ourselves and our family,” Rhode said at a news briefing a few days prior to her victory, according to USA Today. “The Second Amendment was put in there not just so we can go shoot skeet or go shoot trap. It was put in so we could defend our First Amendment, the freedom of speech, and also to defend ourselves against our own government.”

So @RyanSeacrest @DanPatrick are you planning a montage with Costas for @KimRhode, or nah? pic.twitter.com/KrNpfcyQmO

— Trent (@tmarsh83) August 13, 2016
Not shockingly, NBC made no mention of this statement in its own reporting — likely because everybody at the network has been trained to peddle the lie that guns are bad.

Obviously, some liberal media outlets did choose to write about Rhodes’ accomplishment, but even then, one cannot help but wonder how much more congratulatory the articles would have been had Rhodes not been a white American gun enthusiast.

Please share this story on Facebook and Twitter and let us know what you think about how some media outlets either ignored this Olympic medalist’s victory or outright bashed her!

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The Gateway Pundit, Conservative Tribune 17 Comments [8/18/2016 3:41:12 AM]
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Quote# 121163

"If we evolved from apes, then why are there still apes?"
I hope you know this is a line that is used to ridicule people who do not understand evolution.


It would serve you better to study Irreducible Complexity instead of Evolutionary Theory because it basically disproves Evolutionary Theory.

This is what a simple search on irreducible complexity turns up on Google:

Irreducible complexity (IC) is a
pseudoscientific argument that certain biological systems cannot evolve
by successive small modifications to pre-existing functional systems
through natural selection.


That's interesting because "pseudoscientific" would be a term that more properly fits a theory written by a man such as Darwin, who wasn't even a scientist.

4Given, Christian News Network 21 Comments [8/18/2016 3:40:47 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 121162

[From an article aimed people who have recently been widowed]

If your spouse’s soul wasn’t on its face before our Creators at some point in the earthly journey, then he or she is now in Hell. This is reality, and trying to pretend otherwise is just insulting to God.

Anna Diehl, The Pursuit of God 13 Comments [8/18/2016 3:40:35 AM]
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Quote# 121158

[Re. the possible rebuilding of the Buddhas of Bamiyan]

It's bad enough that the US government is wasting unbelievable amounts of money on nonsense (like the $600,000 spent to study the sex-habits of squirrels). Now you've got idiots who want to spend $60,000,000 to erect two humongous Buddha statues in Afghanistan (174 and 125 feet tall). Here's the article below. Has the world gone nuts?

What is wrong with the world? Has everyone gone nuts? I mean, there's little children dying over in Afghanistan (you know, the country we supposedly liberated from the evil Taliban). How could anyone in their right mind justify spending money on Buddha statues instead of feeding the children? People's priorities are all wrong! The misappropriation and waste of tax-payer money is appalling. I pay taxes. I don't want my money being used for garbage like squirrel studies! Here's a link to The Pork Page, loaded with government waste projects. Also, read Money Down The Drain.

It's pathetic. While one in four children are dying by age five in destitute war-stricken Afghanistan, some morons are wanting to restore their Buddha statues. It's just beyond common sense and sanity. Truly, much of today's world has lost it's mind. It's sickening to realize that we live in a nation like the United States where you can legally murder your child through an abortion, but face imprisonment for killing an American eagle. Save the eagles! Murder the children and sell their body parts! On and on, truly there is a devil.

May I briefly say...I am a born-again Christian, but not religious. I detest religion. I love the Lord Jesus Christ and have built this website (www.Jesus-is-Savior.com) for Him. It goes without saying that the world is fast becoming a large insane asylum. Without Jesus Christ, people can become heartless monsters.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 19 Comments [8/18/2016 3:39:26 AM]
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Quote# 121157

An Ohio trans woman was shot to death by her mother’s estranged boyfriend on Thursday in what the family is calling a hate crime.

Columbus’ Channel 10 News reported that Rae’Lynn Thomas, 28, was shot and killed by James Allen Byrd, her mother’s former partner who was still living with the family.

Renée Thomas said her daughter’s last words were, “Mom, please please don’t leave me. Mom, I’m dying. Mom, I love you. Tell my sisters and my brother I love them. Tell my family I love them. Mom, I’m dying, I’m dying, please don’t leave me.”

Rae’Lynn was shot twice by Byrd, then beaten. Byrd was reportedly viciously anti-trans, calling Rae’Lynn “Satan” and a “devil,” which was the word he said before he shot her.

Renée Thomas said she and her daughter were watching TV together when Byrd came around the corner and opened fire. After shooting her, he proceeded to savagely beat her with whatever he could lay his hands on.

“He picked up my heavy scale and wanted to beat [Rae’Lynn] with that. You shot my son. How much more?” said the grieving mother. She called the police, who came and arrested Byrd, but by then Rae’Lynn — who transitioned to living as a woman a decade ago — was gone.

Rae’Lynn’s aunt Shannon Thomas said of Byrd, “He took a light away from all of us that we can’t get back. And he needs to pay. He needs to pay.”

“I want to see him go to jail forever,” she said.

Columbus police are thus far declining to prosecute the murder as a hate crime. He’s being held on $2 million bond.

James Allen Byrd, Raw Story 15 Comments [8/18/2016 3:39:08 AM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 121156

No woman is forced to be a wife and mother, but if she chooses to do that then she is wise if she practices the divine order, because a wife and mother that works outside the home neglects her home, children, and husband and she is tempted and influenced by selfish ambition, it is better for her to work at home and be satisfied with how much money her husband makes, and make due with that and homeschool her children in the ways of the Lord and her home will be blessed, this is what the scripture is trying to convey.

Tit 2:3 Older women likewise are to be reverent in their behavior, not malicious gossips nor enslaved to much wine, teaching what is good,
Tit 2:4 so that they may encourage the young women to love their husbands, to love their children,
Tit 2:5 to be sensible, pure, workers at home, kind, being subject to their own husbands, so that the word of God will not be dishonored.

Hallstone, Christian Forums 13 Comments [8/18/2016 3:38:32 AM]
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Quote# 121155

My last topic was about the big bang, but evolution always comes up in the conversation. They go hand in hand.
Many Christians buy into this lie. It gives the atheist and Christian common ground. But I feel that this border line heresy.
In the first book of the bible , Genesis, we are told God created man from the dust of the earth, then the birds, land animals, and all water animals and fish. I am paraphrasing of course. But the point is the bible is quiet clear on the order of events and the circumstances covering their and our creation.
I see no proof of macro evolution, one kind changing into another kind. And to say that micro leads to macro is completely unsupported in the fossil records.
It is not science, science is where we show something to be true by observing and testing then reproducing the results in a controlled environment. Bacteria is always thrown out there as proof, but bacteria stays bacteria, virus's stay virus's, dogs stay dogs, etc. etc.
There are different types in the kinds , but there kinds never completely change to a different kind.
The evidence is no where to be seen.
The bible doesn't teach this.
And this in itself is a belief system requiring faith.
So if you have proof, solid proof, then please present it here.

Bible Apologetics, Disqus - "Faith & Religion" forum 20 Comments [8/18/2016 3:35:28 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 121154

[Regulars at Y!Answers may have noted that this poster said a while back that she was having trouble convincing herself that the earth was flat, as the Bible says, but she was working on it prayerfully. No, she is not a Poe.]



Only in the last 18 months or so are people studying to see the earth is flat.

It's basic, it's simple, it's proof.

Not one, not 5, but dozens of proofs, and you laugh because you have nothing.

You have nothing to say.

Just accuse.

These people are sometimes believers in God, but often they are not believers in God.

And quit with the slurs, the potty mouth talking about the Creator who millions follow.

In this flat earth, it's great to know that NOBODY gets away with ANYTHING.

All those evil people, Emperors, people who sold others in sex slavery,
they are exposed, and everyone will know what they did.

It's not easy finding out what really wealthy people hide, but God knows,
and God does not even have to show this.

You really don't know anything and maybe that's why you are how you are.

Do you want the links for this? I think ....no?

2FollowHim, Y! answers 16 Comments [8/18/2016 3:35:20 AM]
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Quote# 121153

With the Ark opening, there’s been a flurry of news headlines. Some are fair, but most are slanted. It’s no surprise: the media write slanted headlines. Many are even taught to do this. But there’s been a significant switch lately.

I heard it first during the Ham-Nye debate. Bill Nye [“the Science Guy” of TV fame] kept referring to biblical creation as “Ham’s interpretation,” as if the young-earth interpretation somehow belongs to Ken Ham. In an effort to pigeonhole Ken as narrow-minded, they’re revealing just how narrow-minded they are. I can only fathom the shock of most journalists if they even checked unreliable Wikipedia to learn that Ken Ham isn’t “creation’s Lone Ranger.”

If Ken’s alone in saying the earth is young, then why am I writing this blog? Because he isn’t alone! You know what? Others throughout history have said the earth is young. Even prominent scientists alive today agree with this position—and not just here in America. There are young earth creationists in other industrialized nations all around the world. In fact, a quick Wikipedia search (which isn’t always 100% accurate) even shows that the same views that Ken holds were well respected within Christendom in the past and are still respected now.

You know, Christianity and biblical creation aren’t based on what Ken Ham has said, currently says, or will say. News flash: biblical creation depends on the authority of Scripture.

I’m offended by how journalists misrepresent my personal beliefs. My faith isn’t based on “thus saith Ken Ham.” What’s more is that evolutionists would be equally as appalled if we called it “Nye’s evolution!” From preschool through PhD in secular education, I’ve never been taught “Nye’s evolution.” Calling it “Ham’s interpretation” is a straw man argument used in ignorance for emotional reasons.

My point (like Ken’s and myriad others’) is that the Bible is authoritative. It’s ironic that journalists expect their readers to trust them as authorities (when they aren’t experts on the topics they report about) while holding others (like Ken who has studied the Bible and this topic for years and is using God’s Word as his authority) to a completely different standard.

The Bible is the authority. Period. I beg the media: stop calling this “Ham’s version.” Call it biblical creation. You’re marginalizing your readership. I’m not saying, “Get rid of your slant” (in fact, you could read on the Answers in Genesis’ website about how we’re all biased). I am asking, “Do everyone a favor—quit calling this ‘Ham’s interpretation.’”

Dr. Andrew Fabich, Answers in Genesis 20 Comments [8/18/2016 3:35:03 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 121152

A lawsuit filed this week by an atheist firefighter against the city of Bowling Green (Kentucky) has some damning claims about what he witnessed in the department.

Jeffrey Queen worked at the Bowling Green Fire Department for the past five years. But after several of his complaints were ignored, some by Deputy Chief Dustin Rockrohr (who is also named in the lawsuit), he was given a leave of absence earlier this year before being formally discharged in May.

Queen alleges in the lawsuit that he faced repeated harassment from co-workers because he is an atheist and was often called gay slurs. In one incident described in the complaint, a captain allegedly said he would burn down Queen’s house because he was an atheist, and in another a firefighter allegedly told him “if a homo works here, we’ll make sure he dies in a fire. We’ll chop his feet off.”

Queen’s complaint also alleges that both leadership and rank-and-file members of the fire department showed contempt for and used slurs to describe minority groups in Bowling Green, such as African-Americans, Muslims and the LGBT community. It refers to firefighters calling Muslims “towelheads” and “sandn—–” who should be deported or killed, and references a video — which is posted on the [law firm] Craig Henry website — of one burning the Quran in front of a fire station. The complaint also alleges that a captain said atheists “deserve to burn,” and several referred to a group of African-American men as “hood rats,” “n——” and “thugs.”

The complaint also alleges that firefighters repeatedly called LGBT people “faggots” and suggested they would not touch LGBT people because they “probably had AIDS.” According to the complaint, a crew allegedly put such words into action, declining to offer medical care to a man experiencing chest pain after determining he was gay.

Bowling Green Fire Department, Patheos 19 Comments [8/18/2016 3:33:58 AM]
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Quote# 121150

you look to mongolia as your guide to what it is to be a self-realized asian-american male, huh? seeing as how you snivel about how AA males don’t get laid enough by ladies of “all colors and varieties”, why don’t you just go around raping them? i mean, genghis khan sure had his pick of the ladies in that way, right?

and you say that AA males have a “sometimes undeserved” reputation for treating women like second-class citizens. well, if you admire the keeping the “traditions” (rape) and “gender roles” (i am the alpha male, bitches give me sex or i kill you) from khan’s medieval mongolia intact, then i’d say the reputation is pretty deserved in your case.

Irked, Yomyomf 4 Comments [8/18/2016 3:32:08 AM]
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Quote# 121149

On his radio program today, American Family Radio's Bryan Fischer reiterated his position that women should not be entrusted with positions of political authority.

Responding to a caller, Fischer stated that "you could make a pretty good biblical case ... that only men are supposed to hold political office."

"That's always the pattern in the word of God," he said. "The kings were all males, when you had a departure from that with Jezebel and Athaliah, it was not a good thing, it did not work out well. Leadership in the church is reserved for men, leadership in the home is reserved for men. In other words, in God's economy, he has designed leadership and authority in society and in the church and in the home to be exercised by men."

"I think you could make a good case that leadership in culture, society, politically as well as in the home, that that is something in God's economy that's reserved for men," Fischer stated. "What if somebody had the courage to go on national TV, somebody of some kind of prominence or visibility, and said, 'Look, I'm going to vote for Trump because he's a man. I don't believe that women should be entrusted with high political office' ... That's the position I happen to take."

Bryan Fischer, Right Wing Watch 18 Comments [8/18/2016 3:31:56 AM]
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Submitted By: Ibuki Mioda

Quote# 121146

The video mentions that Obama wants to be re-elected for a third term. What? Isn’t that ILLEGAL?? We all thought that the president can be re-elected for a SECOND term, but a THIRD?? Franklin Delano Roosevelt (he apparently was re-elected three times) was president in office for more than eight years. This is unheard of, that is, if you’ve been asleep for most of your life.

As I thought about this, I realized that if Obama DOES get a third term in office, then he may very well be the Antichrist. Not just anti-Christ, as he obviously and shamefully is, but the real deal. Why am I saying that? Because the Rapture of the church (true Christian believers) cannot be far away, and the primaries take place beginning in February and ending in June. IF Obama gets reelected a third term (or rather, if the elites KEEP him in office; these elections are all a smokescreen anyway), then I believe that Jesus can come for us, the church will be taken out of the way, and THEN Obama MAY BE be revealed as THE Antichrist. I say this because WE WILL NOT BE PRESENT ON EARTH WHEN THE ANTICHRIST IS REVEALED TO THE WORLD.

kingjameswriter1965, I Hate The Internet But I Love Jesus 32 Comments [8/17/2016 6:44:46 PM]
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Quote# 121144

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Before Jesus Christ left this Earth, He made it crystal clear through what is called the Great Commission, that we who now believe in Him are to be *brand ambassadors* for God and for His Kingdom. But somewhere along the way, Christians seem to have lost that focus.

We now live in an age where Christians have allowed themselves to be smothered by the culture of the age we live in. Believers are suffocating under the pressure of worldliness, susceptible to the peer pressures of ungodliness and compromise. And instead of being influencers for Jesus Christ, we find ourselves instead being influenced by the world against Christ.

And God's *brand* has taken a beating.

There also seems to be a confusion in some Christian camps between being contemporary with the world, and being contaminated by the world. Where is the balancing line?

Can Christians look and dress just like the world, and still project the image of Jesus Christ? Can we do what the non-believers do, hang out in the places they frequent, and partake in questionable activities alongside them - and still represent the best interests of the Kingdom of Christ?

What happened to the power of God? Why does it seem to have gone missing? We hear tales and stories from the past as well as around the world today, where Christians operated in unbelievable spiritual power and influence - opening blind eyes, unstopping deaf ears, curing the lame, diseased and afflicted - even raising the dead back to life again.

But what happened to the power? Why don't we see it more often - and more importantly: is there a connection between the power of God that's missing and the current way we've been representing our Lord?

These are the questions of the hour. We don't serve a dead God - we serve an all powerful, eternally existing, supernatural God - One who still desires to work wonders, signs and miracles today! And God is seeking ambassadors through which He can make his power and personality known through today. Will it be you?

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Mack Major, Facebook 18 Comments [8/17/2016 6:44:39 PM]
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Quote# 121143

Everywhere in American society today Christians are being demonized and shunned (as if they are doing something wrong) to speak openly against the gay community and the sin of homosexuality. We as believers in Christ are doing the right thing not to accept homosexuality as being “normal.” It is perversion. If you love the Lord, the ungodly world will hate you. 2nd Timothy 3:12, “Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.” Any professed Christian, who shows even the least amount of support for homosexuality and the gay movement, is not right with God. I say that kindly. We hear a lot of talk about the problem of intolerance, but the real problem is tolerance for sin and wickedness in society, church and the home. This is why we are told in Hebrews 3:13, “But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.” The longer that sin is tolerated, the harder one's heart becomes toward it. This is why America is in such a rotten mess today, because we have tolerated wrong doing for so long.

Dr. Bob Jones is very correct that many people have stopped believing in a literal Hell, because of tolerance for sin. People don't recognize evil things (like abortion, homosexuality, public nudity, gossip, drunkenness, fornication and theft) as sin anymore. The great need of the hour is preaching preachers, who cry aloud against the sins of this generation!!! The average church today doesn't preach against sin at all, and evil is tolerated. When's the last time that you heard a preacher preach against the evils of abortion. Abortion is cold-blooded murder!!! Homosexuality is a filthy sin! Sodomites and lesbians are perverts! Tell the truth! And there is a literal place called Hell, that burns with fire and brimstone (Revelation 21:8), where all Christ-rejecters will spend eternity in inexplicable suffering and torment.

People often accuse God of being intolerant, and He is concerning sin. But my friend, I marvel when I consider how tolerant God has been toward our wickedness in the United States. We have spit in God's face for decades as a nation—banning the Holy Bible from the schools, children dishonoring their parents, divorce, ungodly Hollywood movies, taking the Lord's name in vain, women stripping naked in public, committing sexual immorality, murdering our babies, and then doing it all over again and again! Now children have to share restrooms with transvestites! Only a fool would expect God to bless America today! I pray for God to curse this rotten nation and give us what we deserve.

David J. Stewart, Love the Truth 18 Comments [8/17/2016 6:44:31 PM]
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Quote# 121135

Atheism Is Religion

Atheists Down Under Are Worried

Do atheists have beliefs? Of course they do!

Atheists believe that matter arose by natural processes. Can they prove this? Not at all!

Atheists believe the universe, all life, the laws of nature, and laws of logic arose by natural processes. Can they prove this? Of course not, but they believe it to be so.

Atheists believe they cease to exist after they die. Can they prove this? No, but they believe this is what happens.

Atheists believe no God exists. Can they prove this? Not at all—it’s their belief.

Merriam-Webster dictionary defines the word religion this way:

1. a : the state of a religious <a nun in her 20th year of religion> b (1) : the service and worship of God or the supernatural (2) : commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance

2: a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices

3: archaic : scrupulous conformity : conscientiousness

4: a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith

Even though he has not labeled himself as such, Bill Nye, for all intents and purposes, is a practicing atheist. Look at this short video clip as I was speaking to him recently at the Ark Encounter where he admitted to believing life arose by natural processes—he has a belief, a religion. Atheists have a “system of belief held to with ardor and faith.” Atheists are very religious people.

Now, in the United States, atheists have conducted a propaganda campaign to try to brainwash the public into believing that people who believe in God are religious, but those who don’t believe in God are not religious. Because of this atheist propaganda, many have been indoctrinated to believe that when secularists get the Bible out of public schools, or crosses and nativity scenes out of public places, they removed religion so the situation could be neutral. However, the reality is that these secularists have imposed their atheistic religion on the schools and culture in general. As Jesus taught: “He who is not with Me is against Me, and he who does not gather with Me scatters.” (Luke 11:23) There is no neutral position. No person has no religion—everyone has a religion, and ultimately it comes down to those who are for the true God and those who are not.

ATHEISTS HAVE CONDUCTED A PROPAGANDA CAMPAIGN TO TRY TO BRAINWASH THE PUBLIC INTO BELIEVING THAT PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE IN GOD ARE RELIGIOUS, BUT THOSE WHO DON’T BELIEVE IN GOD ARE NOT RELIGIOUS.

Now atheists from Down Under have been desperately trying to convince people in Australia that they have no religion.

Tuesday, August 9, is Census Night in Australia (though people have several weeks to complete it). Every five years, all Australian citizens are required to fill out the census form. As in America, census results help the government figure out where and how government funds are allocated. These allocations can seriously impact Christian organizations such as Christian schools, charities, chaplain offices, and other religiously affiliated organizations.

Of particular concern is question 19, which is the only optional question on the census form. This question is the religious identity question. Several different options are available, including six Christian denominations as well as Islam, Hinduism, and Buddhism. There is also an “other” category to mark, and then additional information needs to be supplied in a text box. But what makes this question stand out is that “no religion” is the first option to choose from. Now this is absurd, because no one can claim they have no religion! So that option should be totally deleted from the census form

However, according to the Canberra Declaration newsletter,1 the reason why this choice occurs first is that the Atheist Foundation of Australia lobbied for it three years ago. It’s possible that some people may select this box simply because it appears first, especially if they are hurrying through the form or if at first glance they don’t see their own religious affiliation listed. This would be detrimental to religious organizations, as government subsidies may be cut or diminished based on the answer to this question. But a religious affiliation is a totally different matter from claiming one has no religion anyway! As well as listing various denominations, Islam, and so on, atheism should be listed as the religion (as opposed to “no religion”) for those who choose this affiliation.

Much Campaigning about Nothing

In fact this potential cutting of government funding may be just the hope of the Atheist Foundation. In the weeks leading up to tomorrow’s census, the Atheist Foundation of Australia launched a “Mark 'No religion'” website and have been conducting an advertising campaign to encourage people to do so. Some of the tactics appear aimed at making “unsure” or “undecided” people use this option. There has also been an attempt by the Atheist Foundation of Australia to encourage teens and children to be counted as “no religion,”2 claiming that only adults can validly claim a religion. Of course, part of the atheist campaign is to try to indoctrinate young people in particular that atheists don’t have a religion. But young people need to understand that atheism is a religion—and it’s a religion of purposelessness, meaninglessness, and hopelessness.

The “other” box on this form has also been gaining momentum among some segment of the population. Apparently there has been an increase in the number of “Jedi” in the past few censuses.3 Ironically the aforementioned Atheist Foundation is trying to get people to quit claiming Jedi as a religion, as they claim it will falsely inflate the undefined religion category at the expense of their false idea of no religion. Apparently “the Force” is not strong with them.

ATHEISM IS A RELIGION. IT’S A RELIGION WHICH EXPLAINS LIFE WITHOUT GOD.

But when you really stop to think about it, why is there such a push by the Atheist Foundation of Australia for marking the “no religion” box? To get the “no religion” box put at the very top seems like it should be satisfaction enough; but no, an all-out media blitz has been (and still is) underway. As we’ve pointed out many times before, atheism is a religion. It’s a religion which explains life without God. As mentioned here (and outlined above), one definition of religion is “a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith.” Yes, atheism qualifies as a religion!

Furthermore, why should the Atheist Foundation even care? In an atheistic worldview, when you die that’s it (or as Bill Nye said at the Ark Encounter, “When you die you’re done”). There is no ultimate basis for morality, for life, or even for logic. And although Bill Nye falsely claims that he arrived at his belief in atheism (and life by natural processes) based on the evidence,4 why should he trust his senses anyway? What gives him the basis for accepting what he perceives as reality? What makes his interpretation of the evidence right and a creation scientist’s wrong?

Ultimately, to the Atheist Foundation of Australia, what difference should it make if one set of chemicals wrapped in a blanket of skin believes something different from another? In their worldview, our brains are just doing what the chemicals and electric impulses in them direct us to. They can’t even fall back on the relative morality of “what society decides goes” argument: at the last census (2011) only 22.3% claimed “no religion” as their option on the form.5 They also have to at least recognize that many of the religious organizations their strategy may impact are those that, even in an atheistic worldview, do good work. Homeless shelters, Christian-based hospitals, Red Cross centers, charities, and church food pantries all might be negatively impacted. So what does this show about their relative morality? It’s relatively worthless! And really what does it all matter in an ultimately fatalistic worldview?

Troy Lacey and Ken Ham, Answers in Genesis 42 Comments [8/17/2016 3:26:54 AM]
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Quote# 121133

Hillary will be far worse than Obama

Obama was the “race” president, and look how badly he has damaged race relations in only eight years. Hillary will be the “gender” president. The future we have in store should be absolutely clear to you if she happens to defeat Trump.

Not only will she move to establish a techno-matriarchy where men are second-class citizens to any female, but she will ensure that no movement or organization will be able to challenge her or her establishment cronies ever again. This isn’t a trivial matter of getting banned from a web site like Twitter or Youtube—many of you will be forced to escape the country for no other reason than you happening to be a man who found himself on the wrong side of the establishment.

Many men say that Trump is controlled opposition. The evidence to that has been wholly uncompelling based on the genuine establishment attacks he’s received, but even if he’s lying about all of his policies, including building a wall, the one guarantee we can make about him is that he won’t attack men. There’s absolutely nothing in his candidacy or behavior in the past 40 years of his life that suggests it.

If Trump happens to win and does attack us, I will proudly wear egg on my face, with the depressing realization that our last hope for some semblance of normality has been destroyed and the dark age will be brutal for us all.

A vote for Trump is a vote for self-preservation

My vote for Trump is based on self-preservation for myself, my brothers, and all the men who support me. If Trump wins, I’m confident that we will be able to exercise our free speech without unfair persecution and not be wrongly tried in courts for masculine behaviors. If he does only a scrap of what he promises, we’ll be able to pursue our constitutionally given freedoms without fear of destitution, imprisonment, or worse.

I predict that a masculine renaissance will occur upon his victory, where men can once again focus on their own individual goals with Trump as a patriarchal role model. I would devote more of my energy to helping men successfully pair bond with women, like I started my writing career with, instead of having to play political defense as masculinity becomes retroactively classified as hate speech.

But if Hillary wins, we’re doomed. I’m not saying this out of emotion but out of careful consideration of the globalist master plan and the increased speed of their advancement in the past ten years. What you saw against us in February is just a warm-up of what will come to hundreds of individuals and organizations on the right, all while the justice system pushes genuinely insane laws that force all men to prove they are not rapists after their sexual encounters. I do not look forward to how my life will be like if Hillary does win, or having to wake up every day to see if the “big” attack has started against us or not.

I therefore urge all American readers of mine to vote for Donald Trump on November 8, 2016. While I am skeptical of some of his promises, and wonder if America is too far gone to make it great again, Donald Trump must win so that the pause button can be pushed against this nightmare of insanity that is already crushing men. He will allow us to regain our footing after being forced to watch in disbelief at all the negative changes that have been recently forced upon us. Let us all breathe a sigh of relief if he wins, and pray to God for safety if he doesn’t.

Roosh Valizadeh, Return of Kings 32 Comments [8/17/2016 3:26:17 AM]
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