Quote# 119835

[On the Orlando shooting]

The news is turning this into an LGBT thing. I think that is wrong. I see what the media is doing. They are not making this about Islam but instead are making it about racism/prejudice/hate against LGBT. They are doing it this way, because it suits their agenda. And what will happen, if we thought was bad before about not wanting to bake a gay wedding cake... that is nothing compared to what it will be like now. Now, if anyone even sneezes in the direction of LGBT they will be immediately tried, convicted, and executed.... Labeled racist and hateful. I look for this to get really bad. The other thing I am almost certain will happen... guns. They are going to take away our right to have them.

This is not about LGBT. This is about Islamic terrorism. Among the many redeeming qualities of the religion of Islam, is a hate of homosexuals. Islam is not like Christianity and there are no 'choices'. Christians, we condemn the sin itself, but not the sinner. Christians realize that everyone does sin, and that God loves us all the same, whether or not we have given our lives to Jesus or not. Christians do not believe in going to a place that is deemed 'gay', and killing everyone there. We pray for the sin, and we love ALL. We'd never kill a person for being a Muslim. And we'd never kill a person for being gay. Islam, completely different. They are taught to hate anyone who does not subscribe to their exact version of Islam (even each other i.e. Sunni/Shia). They are taught to KILL anyone who does not believe exactly as they do. They don't pray for whom they believe are 'unbelievers', they kill them.

And so, obvious as the nose on my face that this IS about Islamic terrorism. It's not like the Adam Lanza shooting. It is not some random act of mass casualty violence. This IS the Islamic way, the way of the so called 'religion of peace'. And if American's cared about their country, they wouldn't let the news continue to shovel this poop down our throat that this is just like other shootings... about mental issues, about someone wanting to be famous for killing a bunch of people and then themselves going down in a blaze of glory. This is not that. TPTB however, are already full steam ahead in categorizing this as an act of random violence, verses calling it what it is.... the hateful religion of Islam and what Islam teaches it's followers to do. To hate. To kill.

The LGBT part of this, it shouldn't even be being discussed. People died. PEOPLE. It may have been at a 'gay' club, but I'd be willing to bet every dollar I have that the victims of this crime, that over 50% of them are 'straight'. Most likely not saved, but straight. When I was younger, not saved, and frequented Washington DC and the club scene there, me and my friends used to go to many 'gay' clubs. First off, other people besides gay people go to 'gay' clubs. Also, most gay clubs, they always would have one night a week (usually a weekend night) that was advertised and that locals knew was 'the night of the week' that the majority of people in the club were not gay, but instead came to party and hear a certain type of music... such as House, Techno, Latin, Rap, Reggae, and whatever else. On those nights, there were gay people in the club. But there were more straight people in the club than gay people. I hate to differentiate like that, because for me, people are people. But that IS the way it was. I know for a fact because I used to LIVE that life.


tiffanybw, Rapture Ready 31 Comments [6/17/2016 2:54:31 AM]
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Submitted By: documentingtehcrazy

Quote# 119834


Clinton said in a statement. "That means defeating international terror groups [snip]

Hillary,,,, there are no words with enough creedence to weigh your hypocrisy. To compound that fact, the blood of those murdered in Orlando is on the hands of liberal policy. Liberals such as you and the head fag in the WH. You've allowed "this" group of humans to be so brazen as to allow them to shove their lifestyle down our throats that you've enabled them to become easy prey. "Wounded Knee" revisited,,,, is Kristallnacht next??

We don't need you Hillary, nor do we want you. Do not pass go, do not collect your $200, just go to jail.

To the LGBT community: please know that you have millions of allies across our country. I am one of them

Sorry Hill, though I can only speak for myself be assured I'm NOT one of them. Their own attitudes has brought this on. Stay out of our way Hillary, "WE THE PEOPLE will take care of business since your mentally incapable of doing so.

progunner, FreeRepublic 23 Comments [6/17/2016 2:54:26 AM]
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Quote# 119833

In the Bible, both Jesus and Yahweh teach that all sins are not equal. Some are definitely worse than others, and those sins will be judged more harshly. But here’s where we have to remember that our Gods judge us by one factor and that is our soul’s response to Them. Once we understand this, we can understand that an “extra bad” sin in God’s eyes has nothing to do with type of action or degree of impact on other humans. Instead, God ranks the severity of our sins by the intensity of our rebellion towards Him.

Anna Diehl, The Pursuit of God 12 Comments [6/17/2016 2:54:11 AM]
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Quote# 119827

There are two dimensions or levels upon which we fight our war of survival, one is of course the material plane out on the streets where we live our day to day lives, but the other is the spiritual plane which is not without but is within…us!

Since the end of WW2 our spiritual energies and integrity have been gradually whittled away in order to make us more pliable and more accepting of our ongoing destruction on the material plane. If they can erode that which is inside of us, our moral fibre, our race consciousness, our connection with the land and our ancestors, then the material outside war raging about us is easier for our enemies to continue.

The powers that be (our enemies) have the Christian Church bought and sold and on side, the Political ‘choice’ system we already know is no choice at all, whilst we drift into a virtual plugged in wonderland of Porn, Drink, Drugs and Race Mixing the last thing they want is for us to rediscover a spiritual dimension to our race survival. This is something which they do not and cannot control!

Therefore, our ancient racial Gods are very important, as has already been said, they themselves are not going to save the day in a flash of lightening and clap of thunder, but if they are within us, they give us the spiritual strength to resist the machinations of the architects of the decaying world around us and the spiritual strength to fight on in the material plane.

Do we need our ancient Germanic Gods? Yes we do!
Do we need more Odinists/Wodenists and Heathens? Absolutely!

Hodekin, Anglo-Saxon Foundation 17 Comments [6/17/2016 2:44:16 AM]
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Quote# 119826

My personal belief is it's just fine to live a Christ-like life, but so few people do it, and the judgement and hatred is just awful.

So would Christ sanction the keeping of pagan holidays like Christmas and Easter? Would Christ lead the way in allowing two men to marry? Would he give the OK to the murder of innocent babies? Would He say "sure, go ahead" to the multitude of prescription sorceries that are available at your local pharmacy? Rome, the self professed church of God, lays claim to all of these...yet none are found to be approved by God at all.

John1429dotorg, Christian News Network 13 Comments [6/17/2016 2:43:41 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta McFucken

Quote# 119824

[On the Orlando shooting]

What disturbs me most is that a lot of people are lumping Christians and Muslims together on this one and blaming it on religion in general.

I kid you not, people are commenting online and stating that the "hatred" of those who are boycotting Target is identical to what just happened in Orlando. They see no difference between choosing not to spend your money at a store whose policies you don't agree with, and murdering in cold blood.

What has the world come to where people can even entertain such thoughts? It sickens me beyond comprehension, and I can only imagine how heartbreaking it must be to a perfect and holy God.

Rooted1, Rapture Ready 17 Comments [6/17/2016 2:41:52 AM]
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Submitted By: documentingtehcrazy

Quote# 119823

BACK TO THE SUBJECT IN THE O.P.:

The issue of levitation....does not pertain to just what 'illusionists' like Copperfield, Criss Angel, etc. do. There are those in the 3rd world countries that have been doing legitimate acts of levitation for milleniums. It's part of how they make converts to their religion.

Here's a couple more examples:



How does one think that witchdoctors and shamans get a following in the tribe(s) to begin with? Answer: Because their magic works and the people fear them. Voodoo actually works and a lot of people are very fearful of incurring the wrath of the witchdoctor/shamans who can and do exercise totalitarian dictatorship over the whole tribe including the chiefs.

Here is another one, from the Orient.



During the coming tribulation, the last seven years of the world, atheism and agnosticim will become extinct for the whole would will be filled with supernatural occurrences...so much so that to deny the existence of the supernatural will bring instant rejection and ridicule.

Calypsis4, Evolutionary Fairy Tale 12 Comments [6/17/2016 2:41:35 AM]
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Quote# 119821

(Responding to a comment about transgender restroom access in schools: "Get it off the front page and people will go back to the daily life.")

It is on the front page because Mr. Obama sent directives to every school in America saying they had better let boys who feel like girls shower in the girls' showers and dress in the girls locker room. The same the other way around with girls. No note is required from a parent or a doctor. And, they can change their minds the next day if they want. It has a name but I forget what it is -- something like "floater" -- in other words, they can change their minds at will. THAT is why it is on the front page.

If you read the 28-page booklet, now in universities, someone can say they are a girl who is a boy, who never showed any signs of that previously, who does not need a doctor's note or any type of verification...and they would be assigned to room with a girl. She is not allowed to complain...or she could be kicked out. That person can also change their mind at will.

THAT IS WHY IT IS ON THE FRONT PAGE. OBAMA MADE SURE IT WAS. Why? To divide us and make everyone think that conservatives are heartless I suppose.

Ohhh, and btw, if a school does not do this, there was a veiled threat that they would lose funding.

AND, it has happened here. My granddaughter's school (the one in Middle School) had a boy that said he was a girl for the day...he was allowed in their showers. The girls didn't want to shower or take gym that day -- they were excused from taking a shower. He didn't ask again to be with the girls so far. So IT IS HAPPENING ALREADY. I talked about this previously.

Shar



FairSharFairShar, Realabortiondebate 12 Comments [6/17/2016 2:40:52 AM]
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Quote# 119820

Gal.5:19 Works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness..
#Ali





Westboro Baptist Church, Twitter 25 Comments [6/17/2016 2:40:16 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 119819

[Trans women face many of the same issues and more as cis women. We have the same pay inequality with the added bonus of our employers having the right to fire us in 33 states for just being trans. We are judged to the same beauty standards as cis women. The same body image issues. I'd love to have a thigh gap, I'm envious of the women that do, but I'd have to just about kill myself to get it. Women are often their own worst enemies, trans women are not immune to this. I'm sure there are other issues that I can't think of off the top of my head. We are in the same boat, whether you like it or not.]

Being a woman isn't about knowing the history of the woman's movement or having a set of tits. You will never experience what it is truly like to be a woman. You never grew up with the misogyny, being excluded simply for the fact that you were a girl, you never had to prove yourself, you never had to tone down being too smart, you never grew up on the short end of double standards between men and women. You never had to smile and act lady like when the dirty uncle was making crude remarks, you never had to worry about getting raped your whole life and being extra careful who you hung around, you didn't have to worry your whole life about saying the wrong thing to your boyfriend who could beat you up, you never had to feel the vulnerability I have, you never had to keep your opinions to yourself or were forced to keep quite because that's how ladies act, or men never take you seriously because you were too pretty or men who never wanted to genuinely be your friend because they only wanted to fuck you. You didn't have a lifetime of being held to some high, unobtainable beauty standard. You didn't spend a lifetime being objectified. You never suffered through the embarrassment of bleeding through your panties and not being able to go the pool with all the other kids. You never had to brush off sexist, stupid remarks guys make your whole life. You never have to worry about getting pregnant or the anxiety of waiting on pregnancy test. You never have to worry if having a kid will ruin your whole life or what it will do to your already imperfect, un-model like body. You never had to worry about looking like Barbie. You never had adult men "accidentally" touch your boobs or your butt when you were 12. Or that optometrist that gives you a breast exam. You never had to worry about raising a child on your own. You never had to make a "security risk analysis" in every interaction with the opposite sex because they could potentially hurt you or rape you. You never had to count the days between periods. You've never had to ruin countless clothing because you've bled through. You've never had to worry about having a mental breakdown every 30 days since you were 12, you never grew up thinking that you could be president, an astronaut, a rockstar, a baseball player...because women usually aren't. You were never expected to forego an education for a family...and if you didn't, you would make less anyways. You never had to worry about getting shunned in an engineering class bc you were the only woman, you haven't had the lifelong experience of men dismissing your emotions because you're "on the rag", you didn't have a lifetime of getting forced in the kitchen with your mom while your brothers played ball with your dad, you never grew up thinking that you could be anything, only important people were men...You were never expected to be a full time worker, housekeeper, mother, and slave while some guy just drinks beer and sits on the couch and watches NFL.

All of these things and more, most women can relate to. You're a man-made woman, a sexist byproduct of what a man thinks a woman is.

Jennifer Adams, Feminist Current 27 Comments [6/17/2016 2:38:54 AM]
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Quote# 119818

Whether we like it or not, those of us born female - with XX chromosomes and female genitalia - are socialised to be pretty and passive and deferential, if not by our families, then by a broader society that increasingly demands such attributes of women and girls. When puberty arrives it brings with it the joy of monthly menstrual cramps and the beginnings of a 30 to 40 year battle to avoid unwanted pregnancy.

Our physical capacities and our personal freedoms are diminished by womanhood. But at the same time we see our male counterparts growing bigger and stronger, with fun dangly things between their legs and an unfettered capacity for adventure.

??Most of us understand what it's like to have dreams and aspirations beyond what society expects of us. Because of our 'female' socialisation, we do our best to understand and empathise with the distress and pain felt by others, including transgender persons. We know we cannot live their experience, but we do our best.?

Sadly, as has been demonstrated in innumerable public forums, many transgender persons – particularly male to female transgender persons – are unwilling to afford biological women the same consideration.

Somehow, their suffering must be acknowledged to be greater, their needs must be prioritised, and they must be permitted to insult, label and ridicule biological women who argue against their superior entitlement.

We female-born women are trained to be endlessly accommodating, but the current trans agenda is really testing our patience, particularly when we are set upon by other female-born trans ‘allies’.

In fact, our overtly patriarchal society is working overtime to put women back ‘where they belong’. Women and girls are being sexually assaulted, killed and injured in domestic violence and exploited in pornography and in the sex trade in record numbers. The latter exploitation is promoted by many, including leading human rights organisations, as being ‘empowering’ for women.

And now, we are expected to cede the feminist agenda to male-born persons who identify as female, and accept the blame for male violence against transgender women.

It’s so absurd I’d be laughing, if it weren’t for the tears of anger and frustration and the despair I feel when I look at my two-year old grand-daughter and wonder what life will hold for her.

And, yes, I’ve been called a TERF – before I even knew what it meant.

Bronwyn Williams, Feminist Current 21 Comments [6/17/2016 2:38:48 AM]
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Quote# 119817

[On the Orlando shootings]

The good news is that there’s 50 less pedophiles in this world, because, you know, these homosexuals are a bunch of disgusting perverts and pedophiles.
That’s who was a victim here, are a bunch of, just, disgusting homosexuals at a gay bar, okay?

But the bad news is that this is now gonna be used, I’m sure, to push for gun control, where, you know, law-abiding normal Americans are not gonna be allowed to have guns for self-defense. And then I’m sure it’s also gonna be used to push an agenda against so-called “hate speech.” So Bible-believing Christian preachers who preach what the Bible actually says about homosexuality — that it’s vile, that it’s disgusting, that they’re reprobates — you know, we’re gonna be blamed. Like, “It’s all extremism! It’s not just the Muslims, it’s the Christians!” I’m sure that that’s coming. I’m sure that people are gonna start attacking, you know, Bible-believing Christians now, because of what this guy did.

Now let me just be real clear: I’ve never advocated for violence. I don’t believe in, you know, taking the law into our own hands. I would never go in and shoot up a gay bar — so-called. I don’t believe it’s right for us to just be a vigilante… But I will say this: The Bible says that homosexuals should be put to death, in Leviticus 20:13. Obviously, it’s not right for somebody to just, you know, shoot up the place, because that’s not going through the proper channels. But these people all should have been killed, anyway, but they should have been killed through the proper channels, as in they should have been executed by a righteous government that would have tried them, convicted them, and saw them executed. Because, in Leviticus 20:13, God’s perfect law, he put the death penalty on murder, and he also put the death penalty on homosexuality. That’s what the Bible says, plain and simple.

So, you know, the good news is that at least 50 of these pedophiles are not gonna be harming children anymore. The bad news is that a lot of the homos in the bar are still alive, so they’re gonna continue to molest children and recruit people into their filthy homosexual lifestyle…

…

… I’m not sad about it, I’m not gonna cry about it. Because these… 50 people in a gay bar that got shot up, they were gonna die of AIDS, and syphilis, and whatever else. They were all gonna die early, anyway, because homosexuals have a 20-year shorter life-span than normal people, anyway…

Pastor Steven Anderson, Patheos 25 Comments [6/17/2016 2:38:20 AM]
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Submitted By: Yossarian Lives

Quote# 119814

I don't think it's obvious that the Gay Pride rainbow flag actually is the Mark of the Beast. I do think it's obvious that there is a typological correspondence between the two. A Typological Correspondence is when two things are related in the sense that the first thing is the type, and the second thing is the fulfillment. In the Bible there are many types of Christ. A couple of examples:

1. Adam is a type of Christ in that he exercised federal headship over his children (not just his direct biological children). Jesus is the fulfillment, because He is to us what Adam should have been, but couldn't be. For more on this, see Romans 5.
2. David is a type of Christ because he was a godly king. Jesus is also a King, but He is the King who has never failed. Jesus never failed to exercise justice (Ammon), committed sexual sin (Bathsheba), etc. Jesus is what David should have been, but couldn't be. He is the King that Israel always longed for.

In the same way, there are types in the negative sense as well. Rachel Held Evans, for example, isn't The Antichrist, but she is an antichrist. The Antichrist will be like her, in that he will defy God, hate the Bible, and lead people into sin, but he will do so on a much greater scale. Other types of The Antichrist would be men such as Matthew Vines, Arius, Brian McLaren, etc.

With that understood, here's what I mean about the Gay Pride flag:

The Mark of the Beast is intrinsically idolatrous, requiring you to obey The Beast, rather than God's Law. The Gay Pride flag is a celebration of abominations.
You cannot take the Mark of the Beast without worshiping the Beast. You also cannot take the Rainbow Flag without worshiping secular humanism and sexual depravity. The Gay Pride flag is an idol.
You cannot take the Mark of the Beast and be a Christian at the same time. You also cannot be a supporter of gay pride and a Christian at the same time.
Those who refuse to take the Mark of the Beast are removed from society, and not allowed to buy or sell. The Gay Rights movement is determined to remove Christians from society by pushing us to the margins, and to stop Christians from buying or selling by removing us from the economy. This is a regular feature of their activism: exerting economic pressure to cow opponents into submission. Further, literally all of the Christian persecution of the West arises from the purveyors of the Mark—I mean Gay Pride flag.

It's possible (but still unlikely) that the Gay Pride flag actually is the Mark of the Beast, but I think it's clear that the Gay Pride flag is a type of the Mark, and that the Mark will be like the Gay Pride flag in important, significant ways.

Timothy Dukeman, Deeper Than Sound-Bites 11 Comments [6/17/2016 2:37:40 AM]
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Submitted By: R

Quote# 119813

The Magical Power of Demonic Idols
Now, you may deem all this so much superstitious mumbo-jumbo. Modern-day men and women, after all, consider
Lakeshore Drive beast in Chicago
Chicago’s downtown is populated by hosts of stony beasts. This one is found along Lakeshore Drive.
themselves too sophisticated and cosmopolitan to buy into such talk of demon-possessed idols and artifacts. But hardened Satan worshippers, including the initiates of the Illuminati secret societies, strongly believe in the magical powers of demonic-possessed idols and artifacts. They are convinced that idols of stone, wood, plaster, or other materials are, in essence, alive!

Occult doctrine teaches that devils inhabit and animate these things. That is why more and more idols are built, displayed, adored and secretly venerated. Every statue of a devil is, in the reckoning of Illuminists, a potential or real god, and collectively these devil figures represent the supreme God of the Illuminati; that is, Satan.

So obsessed are the Illuminati elite—the rich and famous of this world—with devil idols that they have caused them to be built and put up in places of honor in countless locations across this planet. You'll be shocked and flabbergasted, in viewing my video Face to Face With the Devil, to find them on the exterior and interior of cathedrals and churches, and on the facades of banks, museums, civic auditoriums, and government buildings. Devils in stone are discovered on arches of doorways and window ledges at the headquarters of Fortune 500 corporations, on cruise ships and in the galleys of the billionaires' yachts. They're festooned on the exterior of majestic movie theatres and department stores and over the doors of public park restrooms.

Texe Marrs, powerofprophecy.com 14 Comments [6/16/2016 6:15:58 PM]
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Quote# 119811

I have never been possessed ; but from what I can figure ; Any time an individual has a nearly uncontrollable urge to do something or say something he normally wouldn't do if he or she were in their own right mind then they are possessed . And with today's easy access to alcohol and drugs ; and the do-as-you-please openly taught mind set conveyed to vulnerable adolescents probably 20-30% of every American between the ages of 17-30 are possessed to some degree . And the reason it isn't higher is that they die out before they reach 31 ; are taking medication to quite down their inner voices ; or , they are real good at keeping it from other people's attention . And the remedy for their problem is real simple . All they have to do is make the sincere covenant with God that they immediately will obey all of Jesus' teaching ( especially in Mat. 5:48 ) from now on . But , if for some reason that doesn't work , then they have to write me @ [address redacted by submitter]

At-One-I-Am, Yahoo Answers 11 Comments [6/16/2016 6:10:42 PM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 119807

Shitting in the open is a sacred duty for Hindus. As a Hindu you are not supposed to will any good for the world you pass through, any plan for the betterment of the world or of mankind is a cardinal sin. When you happen to meet a do-gooder of such a kind, your duty is to shit on the very premises he intends to better against the will of the Gods, or on his own property, it is good also to shit on him while making a mental act of creative visualization, the money he losses through evil spell you thus cast on him comes to you in the form of luck. Anybody who tries to better the world around himself makes the implicit avowal he is a Mleccha or worse still a Chandala, an untouchable of the worst kind, and from now onwards deserves only shit, you actually have to consider the riches or money he happens to hold like they had been lost into a dog’s kennel, taking them is no robbery. That is the religion against which the Naxalites could devise no other counter-faith than the cult of Mao as a divine avenger.

Anybody who dreams of any plan for bettering the world is an untouchable, a barbarian. You are within what they think to be civilization provided you take the world for what it is, a sandwich of shit served by the Gods. If you happen to make no plans for a better world but still strive for worldly sensual enjoyments such as art and love you are a shudra, a servant, whose duty is to work long hours for as little pay as possible in retribution for your impious appetites. If on the other hand you are ashamed of each of the enjoyments that the world offers to you and rather prefer to spare the money they cost, you are one caste higher, you are among the twice-born, you are a banya or vaishya, a tradesman or a little usurer by nature, your sacred duty is to turn any thing you touch into money by any means. Usury which consists of reading the foibles of people to make them indebted is a sacred profession. If you then also happen to rejoice over the pain you inflict onto inferior beings by humiliating them gratuitously, or by identifying inferior beings enjoying undue high life and putting them back into the misery where they belong, if you also happen to identify with the fortune of your social group you need the connivence of to crush inferior beings rather than with your own personal, if you are ready to experience personal strife and misery yourself so as to put others into misery rather than climbing yourself to the level of others, you are even better than a bourgeois by birth, you are an aristocrat and a fighter by nature, a kshatriya. If better still you have no will in life but to know and emit rules that constrain the life of others as painfully as possible, if you have confidence in your own intellectual and magical powers to enforce vows of misery onto others rather than on your physical force, if rather with a ruling group you belong to you identify with all repressive and constraining forces in the universe even those that are hostile to you for the sheer joy of reinforcing those forces in their action onto the contemptible humanity, you prove to be a brahmin, then only your little self, the atman, equates the greater outer God, the Brahman, the latter being none other than the collective soul to all brahmans.

This is the whole of hinduism in a nutshell. If any Hindu guru seems to offer you anything contradictory to this, he is abusing you, he is laughing at you while he takes your money and your vital energy.


Judith Mirville, Beyond Highbrow - Robert Lindsay 18 Comments [6/16/2016 6:10:16 PM]
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Quote# 119805

[ Hello uncle Dave. I'm a newer follower of yours, and I'm curious for your opinion on abortion for a rape victim. As you know a lot of tumblr users are pro choice, so that has been the opinion I see most of and would love to hear your side. I just read a story about a 14 yo girl (who had been raped since age 9) who become pregnant and was made to have and keep the child. She ended up abusive and with a drinking problem when she could have aborted. What are your thoughts? ]

If she’d given the child up for adoption, it wouldn’t have been abused…or killed.
What happened to her was horrible. But killing the most innocent victim would have solved nothing.

your-uncle-dave, tumblr 10 Comments [6/16/2016 6:09:43 PM]
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Quote# 119803

(In response to Pulse shooting)

My heart is heavy over every aspect of this. that some of those killed were believers, for comfort to the families, for healing for the injured, that everyone involved turn to Jesus, that our 2nd Amendment rights aren't taken away, that more attacks do not happen, for the FBI/police agencies working tirelessly to stop these impossible lone-wolf attacks. Ugh this is just sickening and so terrible.

(Emphasis mine)

crunchymama, Rapture Ready 17 Comments [6/16/2016 6:07:53 PM]
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Submitted By: Arceus

Quote# 119802

If Humans Are Just Animals Then . . .

Well, it’s important to first note the inconsistency of most animal rights groups. These groups claim to be against animal abuse, but are these same people against the abuse of millions of children who are brutally murdered in their mother’s wombs through abortion?

It’s rather ironic that in PETA’s evolutionary worldview humans are just animals, yet PETA does not petition against the “animal cruelty” of killing unborn children. And what about a Save the Tapeworms Society or People for the Preservation of Fruit Flies?

If all life evolved, shouldn’t these groups be against killing these creatures too? Yet most animal rights groups are not trying to preserve pests like these. This highlights their inconsistency. And if they are evolutionists, then all life, animals and plants, are related in the one big supposed evolutionary tree of life. So what about rights for plants too?

Now some animal rights people claim they are Christians. If so, then they need to understand that God gave man dominion over creation (Genesis 1:26), including over the animals. This dominion does not mean we can deliberately abuse, neglect, or harm creation, but rather, we’re to use what God has made for our good and His glory. In Genesis 1:29 and 30, God told man to eat plants/fruits. But in Genesis 9:3 after the Flood, God said we could eat all things (plants and animals).

Animal rights groups really want animals to have dominion over man. Yet, ironically, most would claim that man is just an animal. So if they want equal rights for animals, what rights should humans have if they believe man is just an evolved animal?

For example if animals kill other animals, do animal rights groups think humans (if we’re just animals) should have equal rights to kill too? Why should we be held to some higher standard or different moral code from other animals?

If animals steal from other animals, do animal rights groups think humans (if we’re just evolved animals) should have equal rights to steal? What about incest, cannibalism, or infant abandonment? Why are these things wrong for humans but not wrong for “other” animals? If animal rights activists were consistent, they should argue that it is okay to steal from animals, kill them, and eat them—since this is what we regularly observe in sin-cursed animals anyway.

Where Do Rights Come From?

In an evolutionary worldview, what makes animal rights activists think that rights exist in the first place? Rights are an abstract concept that comes from a biblical worldview, which is denied by the evolutionary position. The evolutionary position, which comes out of naturalism and materialism, cannot account for the concept of rights, because they are not material. In other words, the evolutionary materialist must borrow the concept of rights from Christians to argue against the Christian position of man being superior and in dominion over animals.

If animals are no different from humans, then why aren’t ringworms making the argument for animal rights, instead of people? We don’t observe the organization of ringworms called the Ringworms for the Ethical Treatment of Animals or RETA. In the animal rights activists’ heart of hearts, they know man is above animals. What they don’t know is why. It is because man is made in the image of God (Genesis 1:26–27).

Evolutionary Morality—Hopelessly Inconsistent

Those who start with an evolutionary view of mankind have no absolute basis for morality. Because they have no foundation, they are forced to construct a moral code that is “right in their own eyes” (Judges 21:25). This leads to all kinds of inconsistencies.

Evolutionists arbitrarily create or hold to a moral code for humans—which, in their view, includes not using anything that comes from or was even tested on animals—yet they believe we are just animals. So why should we be held to this arbitrary standard that no “other” animal is held to?

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"Let Them Have Dominion”

Most animal rights groups start with an evolutionary view of mankind. They view us as the last to evolve (so far), as a blight on the earth, and the destroyers of pristine nature. Nature, they believe, is much better off without us, and we have no right to interfere with it. This is nature worship, which is a further fulfillment of the prophecy in Romans 1 in which the hearts of sinful man have traded worship of God for the worship of God’s creation.

But as people have noted for years, nature is “red in tooth and claw.”4 Nature is not some kind of perfect, pristine place. And why is this? Because mankind chose to sin against a holy God. When Adam and Eve disobeyed God’s command, they brought death, suffering, and the Curse into creation (Genesis 2:17, 3:17).

Now all of creation groans, waiting for the coming day when Jesus will liberate it from the Curse (Romans 8:20–22; Revelation 22:3). Creation was never designed to live in disharmony. We, and the animals, were originally created to be vegetarian (Genesis 1:29–30) and to live forever without any suffering or disease. But because sin changed all of that, we battle its effects every day.

But this doesn’t mean that humans are a blight or disease. Despite our sin, we are the only ones created in the very image of God, utterly unique from the rest of creation. We were granted dominion over the earth and it’s inhabitants (Genesis 1:26). This was part of our “very good” (Genesis 1:31), pre-Fall purpose and mission, and it stems out of our position as image bearers of the Creator.

Ken Ham & Avery Foley, Answers in Genesis 20 Comments [6/16/2016 6:07:42 PM]
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Fox News host Tucker Carlson suggested on Sunday that President Barack Obama shared the blame for killings at a gay nightclub in Orlando because his administration had downplayed Islamic terrorism.

While investigators were still recovering 20 or more dead bodies from Pulse Nightclub, Carson spoke to counterterrorism expert Sebastian Gorka.

“All Americans have a role to play,” Gorka warned. “You must be aware you are on the front lines. Be alert and report anything that you see that is suspicious.”

Citing a recent shooting in San Bernardino, Carlson argued that President Obama’s administration had made America less safe by taking a politically correct view of Islamic-inspired terrorism.

“Doesn’t the politicization of all of this, the relentless lying by the administration about the Islamic terror threat we face make it harder for people to want to step forward and say what they see?” the Fox News host opined.

“Absolutely, it’s horrific,” Gorka agreed, recalling that an Obama administration had spoken with him after he recently conducted a police training event.

“A young woman walks up from the administration, from the Department of Homeland Security and says, ‘Look, Dr. Walker, that’s all really interesting, but I disagree with all of it because the primary threat to America is white supremacists,'” he scoffed.

Later in the show, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich agreed with Carlson.

“The Obama administration had deliberately and willfully for seven years tried to avoid telling the American people the truth about an ideology which is an enormous threat to our civilization,” Gingrich said, “and which is winning the war.”

Tucker Carlson, Sebastian Gorka and Newt Gingrich, Raw Story 11 Comments [6/16/2016 6:07:35 PM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

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*Bre*
I'm wondering if what is "spine-chilling" about this cartoon is not the triangle and star-shaped pillows but the fact that the little black girl is pretending to be a doctor like her mother.

*Wendy Haught*
The pillows are not in the least spine-chilling to me. They just let me know that this cartoon could have ties to the New World Order agenda, which includes rounding people up in detention camps. It was the work bench and tools that were spine-chilling to me. I have no concerns whatsoever about the girl becoming a doctor. I don't even understand what point you are trying to make.

Wendy Haught and Bre, In Haught Pursuit 13 Comments [6/16/2016 6:07:10 PM]
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New Disney Cartoon Scares the "Stuffins" out of Me
I never read the New York Times, but I decided to this morning just on a whim. As someone who has long been disturbed by the way Disney twists classic stories and promotes sexuality to children, this article about a Disney cartoon caught my interest. First, I studied the picture. I noticed several Masonic symbols. On the bed are two pillows. One is in the shape of a pyramid, and the other is a pentagram shape. There is an all-seeing eye right at the middle of the girl's stethoscope. In the background there is a table with the doctor's equipment. Take a few seconds and look at it. It's clearly a workbench with tools on a pegboard. My gut reaction was that this is about torture, not healing. On the second page is another picture of McStuffins toys for sale . On the top right corner of the package it says, "Doc really makes Lambie Talk". Spine-chilling. The doll says, "Time for your checkup!"

I have never seen the program. The points I made were based solely on the pictures in the article. For those readers who think I am imagining things and overreacting, here's a description of the show that you can feel good about:

Disney Junior’s “Doc McStuffins,” an imaginative animated series about a six-year-old girl who runs a clinic for stuffed animals and broken toys out of her backyard playhouse, was the #1 most-watched preschool series launch in cable TV history in Adults 18-49, which means moms and dads were tuning in and making sure their kids got to see the little female African-American doctor who was helping her stuff animals feel better about visiting their physician.

Wendy Haught , inhaughtpursuit.blogspot.com 16 Comments [6/16/2016 6:03:30 PM]
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“The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world.

On the contrary, they have divine power to demolish strongholds.” ~2nd Corinthians 10:4

The popular fiction book, “The Hunger Games” has been made into a movie and will be released in theaters on March 23, 2012. It is the first movie of a trilogy. The other two movies to follow are, “Catching Fire” and “Mockingjay”. Before we proceed, let’s review (what I call) a “red flag word/phrase.” The name of the second movie is what? Catching Fire?! Does that bring any imagery or thoughts of Hell to mind? We must be very sensitive to these “red flag” words and/or phrases.

In The Hunger Games, we find there are two major themes – rebellion and murder. The storyline is that the post-Apocalyptic Capitol (formerly North America) holds an annual televised event called “The Hunger Games.” Each district must draw the names of a boy and girl between the ages of 12 and 18. There were originally 13 districts before the Capitol destroyed one, leaving 12. Biblically, the number 13 represents rebellion; so we find the theme of rebellion still being evoked ever-so subtly. Altogether, there are 24 youths chosen to become contestants (called “tributes”). They must fight to the death in a vast arena. The lone survivor returns home to wealth and fame.

Let’s stop for a moment and review some significant “red flag” symbolism and counterfeit “spin-offs” from scripture. First off, we find that the 13 districts (13 representing rebellion) dwindled down to 12. Is there any significance in the number 12? In scripture, we find there are 12 tribes of Israel (God’s chosen) and 12 disciples of Jesus who were chosen by Jesus. It appears these 12 boys and 12 girls are the “chosen ones” much like a disciple would be chosen by Jesus; only these 12 boys and 12 girls are chosen for evil – to kill others for wealth, and fame. The number 12 also represents government – so the subtle symbolism is there, since it is the government (Capitol) who have The Hunger Games. It is not coincidence that these references match up; this often happens when something is counterfeit for the truth. The devil is sly and clever; so he will make the counterfeit look genuine. He will make something horribly bad look good and noble. Many admire the character Katniss for taking her sister’s place. “How sweet,” the movie-watchers will say, “She’s so good.” Once they see her as “good” then they can be introduced to other evils and accept them easily. As we continue, we find there are 24 “tributes” chosen for the games. Let’s review the number 24… is that number of any significance? In scripture, the number 24 represents a higher form of Heavenly government and worship. Think of the 24 elders in Heaven who worship God. Revelation 4:4 declares, “Surrounding the throne were twenty-four other thrones, and seated on them were twenty-four elders. They were dressed in white and had crowns of gold on their heads.” There is also other symbolism present in the movie such as the mockingjay pin worn by Katniss. It is said to be a hybrid bird that represents rebellion.

The author, Suzanne Collins, admits that the books were partly inspired by the Greek myth of Theseus and the Minotaur. Anytime you read about Greek mythology, you will find it is inundated with false gods, goddesses, evil, and idol worship. So, for this to be her inspiration seems to further validate the point that it is not written to glorify God. “For the Scriptures say, ‘You must be holy because I [the Lord God] am holy’” 1st Peter 1:16. Also, 1st Corinthians 10:31 states, “… do all to the glory of God.”

Authors Stephen King and Stephanie Meyer are among many that sing the praises for The Hunger Games trilogy. However, it’s like the old saying goes, “Consider the source.” King as well as Meyer are known for writing dark novels. Other reviewers are noting that the trilogy is dark, mad, and twisted; yet, they still give it 4-star reviews! Remember, “Birds of a feather flock together.” The influence of evil will always confuse bad for good. Romans 1:25 says, “They exchanged the truth of God for a lie…”

In the storyline, the fictional President Snow defends the games by saying, “Freedom has a cost,” and that its winners are reminders of the government’s “victory and forgiveness.” He makes it clear he believes that “a little hope is effective; a lot of hope is dangerous.” Now, wait a minute. The cost of freedom is children being sacrificed to death for the government’s “victory and forgiveness”?! Are you kidding me?! Jesus is the only One who was worthy to purchase our freedom, victory, and forgiveness. Although The Hunger Games is fictional, it has some very sacrilegious statements. Also, the President Snow states that “a lot of hope is dangerous” – reminds me of how false this statement is. We have amazing hope in Christ and it isn’t the least bit dangerous. In fact, hope is all that keeps us going many times! Proverbs 13:12 says, “Hope deferred makes the heart sick, but a longing fulfilled is a tree of life.” Why would we want to watch a movie that teaches “hope is dangerous”?

Near the end of the movie, there are only 2 “tributes” (contestants) left – Peeta and his crush, Katniss. At the last moment, a voice announces that the rules have changed and only one of them can survive. Only one contestant can win, meaning the tributes (friends, Peeta and Katniss) must fight each other to the death. Peeta and Katniss threaten to eat poisonous berries simultaneously and die together. The Gamemakers, knowing a double suicide will be an unsatisfying conclusion for the audience, quickly uphold their earlier ruling. Suicide as a solution is being taught in this movie. With cutting, self-harm, drug/alcohol abuse, and depression at an all-time high, how is it okay to show suicide as a solution? These subliminal messages go into the hearts and minds, and are directly inspired by Satan. We find in Matthew 4 that Satan tempted Jesus with suicide when he tempted him to jump off the highest point of the temple; however, Jesus resisted Satan. But, will weaker ones have the strength to resist Satan when he constantly and falsely puts suicide in front of them as a solution to a problem?

There are many other evil symbols, themes, counterfeits, and influences contained in The Hunger Games trilogy which we have not covered – such as Katniss calling the woods her “savior” and devoting her Sundays to hunting in them; or the hauntingly close parallel to the Capitol arena mimicking the Roman Coliseum where many Christians endured cruel deaths. But, suffice it to say that this movie is hardly suitable for Christians to watch (or anybody else, for that matter).

A review of the movie by editor Douglas Wilson says: “Suppose the Capitol bad guys had decided to set up a different required sin in their games. Suppose it were the Rape Games instead. Suppose that the person who made it through the games without being raped was the feted winner. Anybody here think that this series would be the bestselling phenomenon that this one is? In short, when you have the privilege of setting up all the circumstances artificially, in order to give your protagonist no real choice about whether to sin or not, it is a pretty safe bet that a whole lot of people in a relativistic country, including the Christians in it unfortunately, won’t notice.”

In closing, I like what one mom wrote. She said, “Allowing a child to feed on something like this is just downright irresponsible! Parents don’t think for a moment that you will draw your child closer to Christ when they have been enveloped by the madness of books like this.”



REVEALINGTRUTHTODAY, Revealing Truth Today 11 Comments [6/16/2016 6:03:25 PM]
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ben carson is now a damaged brand ...these murdered people have been doubly victimized...first by a society that's telling them it's ok to deny God and indulge whatever unnatural lusts they may have... and then, because of their public flaunting of these impulses, attract the attention of radical fundamentalists that are offended and enraged by this behavior.
All the more reason to reach sinners with the Truth of God's forgiveness, if they turn to Him, confess their wrongdoing and turn away from their sinful lifestyle choices. But the Bible tells us there is a serious penalty for offending God and dying in unrepentant sin.
Now prepare for the pro lgbt and anti gun onslaught, from every sex deviate and leftist and their enablers that will hold still for a microphone...complete with weeping and distraught interviews...including from obama in the James Brady room...
BTW, the shooter is confirmed as a democrat...

donzxcv, WND 10 Comments [6/16/2016 6:02:57 PM]
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Submitted By: Ibuki Mioda

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[On the Orlando shooting]

I read the news item on this attack at Fox News, and they quoted one of the survivors as saying the bar had been just about to close and everyone was taking their "last sip." The horrific irony in that statement was probably not what the speaker intended to communicate, but it was nevertheless there. Every one of us is literally 'one sip' away from meeting the Righteous Judge. The tragedy of the shooting is compounded by the sad fact that those who died have now passed beyond any last chance of repenting, and their eternal condition has been irrevocably determined. No one in the media is likely to comment on this fact, obviously.

ccoyle, Rapture Ready 34 Comments [6/16/2016 3:11:39 AM]
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