Quote# 118936

Freedom of Screech

I get along pretty well with most of the gay people I know. We speak about everything outside of our personal lives and it works.

[...]

How did we get to a point where it's acceptable to discuss the worst abominations in the Torah, yet it is wrong to act to silence the discussion?

There is a powerful lesson to be learned here.

About half a century ago, it became acceptable to talk about all forms of physical relations between a man and a woman. Once we did, we broke a line. Some of what is forbidden by G-d suddenly became acceptable to man. In ushering an era of selective permissiveness, we devolved to the point where everything is permissible.

Now we value it. To say that some people are forbidden to express what they want is racist, not righteous. How do you combat an evil without being pushed into being called evil yourself?

[...]

This was what we faced in the Spring of 1980 when the FDA approved the birth control pill and it ushered in an era of "acceptable promiscuity." Back then, the voices that objected warned that any form of promiscuity does not belong in civilization. Once it started there was no end to how far our world could fall.

The graphic nature of gay speech is the extreme end of any type of personally unholy speech. The fact that it stings a lot more than listening to "straight" talk of this nature is a potent warning to our senses that something must be done.

We are the standard bearers of right and wrong. We represent not human values which change with the wind, but G-d's values which are eternal, absolute, and unchanging.

It is up to us to demand a world where the basic standard of conversation is always rated G - suitable for all audiences. If we do not, then we are also liable for a world in which watercooler talk includes what happened at last week's pride parade.

[...]

Anybody who dares talk openly about subjects that belong strictly within the sanctity of marriage should be made subject to criticism and rebuke. There is no need for discrimination - a member of any ethnicity, personal orientation, religion, or race should be reminded of the human responsibilities to upholding a civilized world.

[...]

Democracy permits freedom of speech but not freedom of screech, contaminating our spiritual atmosphere with lewd talk.

Are you a prude if you want a healthy world to raise your children in? If so, then being a prude is worth fighting for.

Dovber HaLevi, Breslev.co.il 12 Comments [5/14/2016 6:03:59 PM]
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Quote# 118935

Thanks for giving me a choice which is to fit in with your thoughts which I reject due to a lack of evolution in the known universe, and to the evidence of prophecy coming true today,I would point out it is my belief and understanding that the points I see in scripture you do not see.Plus the witness of creation for me confirms it.

~TW~, Religion and Ethics 11 Comments [5/14/2016 6:03:05 PM]
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Submitted By: NearlySane

Quote# 118934

ERBIL – Militants of the Islamic State (ISIS) executed a kid in Syria’s northeastern city of Raqqa, rights activists and eyewitnesses reported on Thursday.

ISIS has reportedly executed the child in the Naeem Square in the city of Raqqa, the main bastion of ISIS in Syria.

Speaking to ARA News in Raqqa, rights activist S.Y. said that ISIS terrorists have executed a 7-year-old child on Thursday in Syria’s eastern city of Raqqa on charges of ‘insulting divinity’.

“Islamic State’s police arrested the Muaz Hassan earlier this week in the city of Raqqa, after they heard him ‘cursing divinity’, while playing in the street with his friends,” the source quoted an ISIS member of Islamic Court as saying. “The act was considered an insult to the Caliphate, regardless of the age of the boy.”

An ISIS member of the Sharia Court read a statement before conducting the execution, explaining the reasons for his execution, eyewitnesses told ARA News.

The ISIS-led Sharia Court sentenced the victim to death on charges of ‘infidelity’, in a move contrary to every legitimate principle which says children are not held accountable for their acts, according to human rights activists.

The Hisba police force shot him dead on Thursday afternoon in the Naeem Square in front of hundreds of people, including the child’s parents, who collapsed after the execution of their child, according to eyewitness.

Islamic State Raqqa militiamen, ARA News 20 Comments [5/14/2016 6:02:50 PM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 118931

A North Carolina high school will allow students to carry pepper spray, razors and other items which one board member suggested they might need to defend themselves against transgender classmates they encounter in the bathroom.

The Rowan-Salisbury Board of Education removed prohibitive language in its policy on defensive weapons this week but will continue to debate which items will be allowed on campus, reported the Salisbury Post.

One school board member said pepper spray and other chemical irritants should be allowed in case a court strikes down the state’s controversial HB2, better known as the anti-LGBT “bathroom bill.”

“Depending on how the courts rule on the bathroom issues, it may be a pretty valuable tool to have on the female students if they go to the bathroom, not knowing who may come in,” said board member Chuck Hughes.

An editorial in the Salisbury Post said the policy — and Hughes’ reasoning — were misguided.

“Actually, LGBT people — often targeted by bullies — might have more reason to carry pepper spray than most students,” the editorial board wrote.

Board members agreed to allow chemical irritant and other defensive items onto school property, rather than requiring them to remain locked in student vehicles, so students would not violate the ban if they forgot to remove the items from their purses or pockets.

“I don’t want to put the students in this weird situation when they didn’t really do anything, they just happened to forget to check their purse every single day,” said board member Travis Allen.

A local gun shop owner said he was concerned about the policy, saying he does not sell pepper spray and similar weapons to customers younger than 18 years old.

“It’s going to be risky,” said gun shop owner Larry Hyatt.

Allen dismissed concerns about allowing items designed specifically as defensive weapons, saying he could harm someone with a spray bottle of Windex or ammonia — or even by using a laptop computer as a weapon.

Board members agreed to allow students to carry disposable razors, as well — although they maintained a ban on straight-edge razors.

After some disagreement on razors, board members agreed to specify that personal razors should be used for shaving only while at school.

Chuck Hughes, Raw Story 35 Comments [5/13/2016 7:31:11 PM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 118926

America lacks real men these days. The reprobate court system has brutally and relentlessly stripped fathers and husbands of their God-given authority. In fact, there's not a court room in the United States that recognizes a man's right to rule over his wife (Genesis 3:16). The courts force men into submission and give rebellious wives the upper-hand. In many cases, the judges presiding over Christian families are homosexuals, having lower morals than animals. How can there be any justice?

Tragically, the homosexual movement has flourished to the same extent as feminism in America. Parents are told to shut-up by their children. There is no respect for parental authority anymore. Women are portrayed as admirals, commanders and 5-star generals by Hollywood; but in reality they are helpless without men to guide them in such positions, which require a man's decisiveness, ruggedness and masculinity. The only exception are butches (women who have become men), losing all their femininity. Lesbianism is of the Devil. Lesbianism and masculine females are virtually synonymous, and not one of them loves the King James Bible, because it is authoritative and holy. The truth is that as America has descended into wickedness, the churches have followed afar off lock-in-step. The very idea of women wearing pants is repulsive to any God-fearing Christian who believes in old-fashioned decency, morality and good living. God hasn't changed. Let me say that again... GOD HASN'T CHANGED (Malachi 3:6).

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Precious 32 Comments [5/13/2016 3:00:44 PM]
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Quote# 118925

On a recent episode of his "Pray In Jesus Name" program, Gordon Klingenschmitt declared that gays are driven by a demonic "spirit of persecution" that makes them attack Christians and "demand to have sex in your guest bedroom."

Klingenschmitt, who is also a Republican state legislator in Colorado, was discussing the decision by the owners of a bakery in Oregon who were fined for refusing service to a gay couple to appeal their case to the state supreme court.

"There is a spirit of persecution that is coming out of this homosexual movement," Klingenschmitt said, "and it's not enough that they get weddings in their own private churches, they want to come to your church, they want to come to your business, they might even come to your home — if you are a bed and breakfast owner, they'll come right into your home and demand to have sex in your guest bedroom and there's nothing you can do, they say, to deny them service because they have a right to violate your freedom."

"That is an evil spirit of persecution," he stated. "There are also evil spirits influencing them to come after the church and we've got to stand up, not necessarily against the humans, we've got to stand up against Satan, who is inside of them."

Gordon Klingenschmitt, Right Wing Watch 23 Comments [5/13/2016 2:59:39 PM]
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Quote# 118924

He Too, Had the Same Dream

(See previous post for beginning.)

Another dream that same night…

I was a young woman, a believer, getting together with a group of friends to eat at a local restaurant. There was about six or so of us, sitting around the table, when another believer, a good friend of mine, leaned over towards me and asked me what was wrong. I thought of saying “nothing”, but knew this particular friend would not accept it for an answer. So in hushed tones, I told him about the horrible nightmare I had had the night before. I had dreamed that a nuclear bomb had gone off in the city. I witnessed those trying to escape it, and watched some of them die trying. It was so horrible that I hated to even mention it to anyone, it was that bad.

As I was telling my friend this, I watched as serious grief filled his eyes, and I then sensed what he was going to say, but hoped above all that he would not.

But he did. He waited till I had finished telling him about the dream, and then after a moment of silence, he told me that he too, had had the very same dream last night.

I couldn’t help it; I screamed out loud “no!”, causing everyone in the restaurant to turn and stare at me. I began to cry. The friends at my table wanted to know what I was so upset about, so I told them about the dream, and that my friend had had the same one on the same night. I knew that my friend understood what this meant; it meant that it would indeed happen one day, and that it was a warning that we had been given, so that we could prepare for it. He nodded in agreement with my words, but the other people with us thought we were crazy and over-reacting. One even tried to make a joke out of it. None of them besides my Christian friend, took me seriously.

I left that restaurant, with my heart aching for my friends, for I knew that they would not be ready when it happened.

Me and the other believing friend of mine decided to work together to prepare for what was coming. We left the city and began to gather up the supplies we thought we might need. But before we had finished getting everything we wanted, (though we had everything we needed,) the bomb went off.

Just as we had seen in our dreams, those who were still alive after the blast began walking away from the epicenter, some dropping as they walked. They were in a daze, and unable to think clearly. We watched as one woman broke into a gas station’s bathroom to steal the cheap toilet paper that was in it. She held it to her chest and acted as if it was gold.

I then woke up.

*

What I have learned from these two dreams, is that:

1. Jesus can indeed save His children from the radiation of a nuclear bomb.

2. If a nuclear bomb will go off, a warning dream of the impending bomb will be given out to many of His children, to help warn them so they can prepare for it before hand.

3. If it will happen, it will happen in a city that is flat, and not nestled in between hills.

4. There were other safe places to go to; not all cities were hit with a bomb.

Dreams of Dunamis, Dreams of Dunamis 25 Comments [5/13/2016 2:58:55 PM]
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Quote# 118923

There was a time where I entertained the notion of treating captured enemy combatants with a certain degree of compassion. But then ISIS happened. Seriously. This isn’t like we’re at war with a conventional force who have similar ideals and values in regards to the value of a human life. Fuck ISIS/ISIL. Burn the fuckers like the plague they are. A fucking cancer to the world. And fuck all those who think otherwise. You wanna go easy on someone who’d jump at the chance to slit your throat and place your head on a pike? Fuck you.

kbxornitorrinco, Stray Doge Serenade 15 Comments [5/13/2016 2:58:48 PM]
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Submitted By: Menomaru

Quote# 118921

[ If we torture terrorist suspects then we are no longer morally superior to them. ]

The governments far from being morally superior, and for the military, our job is to kill them and break their shit, why do we care about morals to that extent?

wonderbreadaviation, tumblr 14 Comments [5/13/2016 2:58:17 PM]
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Submitted By: Menomaru

Quote# 118920

[ You 100% support the torture of terrorists? Even suspected ones? ?_? No matter what torture is immoral and is a poor reflection on our supposedly civilised society..I do not understand how you could support that ]

I changed my mind. I 1,000,000% support the torture of all terrorists (even suspected ones). Please continue bitching all you want about Habibi getting a little water poured on his face, meanwhile ISIS burns people alive in cages, slowly saws people’s throats open, and keeps sex slaves. Get fucked.

constituioncutie, tumblr 11 Comments [5/13/2016 2:58:08 PM]
Fundie Index: 8
Submitted By: Menomaru

Quote# 118919

Christian Pastor Says Men Who Play Video Games Are Losers Possessed by a “Retarded Spirit”

Hemant Mehta

Usually, when we see a pastor complaining about video games, it’s one of those retro clips from the 1980s. This one, courtesy of Faith Christian Center in Texas, is from just a couple of months ago.

Pastor Gene Lingerfelt goes off on men who play Xbox, blaming “that retarded spirit” for why beautiful young women in the church can’t find dates.



And don’t even get me started on the Xbox. And all of that. If you have callouses on your thumbs, you’re a loser. If you’re more than 18 years old and you’re still jackin’ around with that stuff… [does “L” gesture].

I curse that spirit in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth.

There are young gals in this church. Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful young gals, and you know why they can’t get a date? ‘Cause that retarded spirit got onto young men.

Amen.

Some of you women, you have my permission — blame me. He come home — I’m talking about your husband come home, and that’s gone. And don’t just throw it in the trash — he’ll go fish it out — you gotta put in the bathtub full of water before you throw it in the trash. Now don’t do that while it’s plugged in…

[Laughter]

Ah, yes… throw away the thing that makes someone happy. Always the key to a great relationship.

Lingerfelt also called video games a “time waster.” Though if he knew anything about modern gaming, he’d know that it’s a way for a lot of people to socialize, talk to their friends, and just relax. (And that it’s not just men who play the games.)

But that would require doing a bit of research, and why bother with that when you know you’re already speaking for Jesus?

[Formatting in the original]

Pastor Gene Lingerfelt, Patheos - The Friendly Atheist 32 Comments [5/13/2016 2:57:36 PM]
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Submitted By: Kuno

Quote# 118918

Did you know that approx the same amount of Sikhs as Muslims vote for the quite Anglophobic Labour party? It should come as no surprise if you study Sikhism as you will find that they are socialists and Hindus are only approx twenty percent behind both in voting Labour.

In our hour of need, we English need a wide researched scope of questioning and educating and not a blinkered focus on one community (Muslims) being the root of all our evils...

several elements, religious, ethnic, political and cultural are detrimental cogs turning to our disadvantage and we don't care how uncomfortable or offensive this realisation is for anyone,
these thorny issues need addressing with any PC brainwashed baggage dropped off at the liberal door
and I'm sure all will understand that we need to know who are our real friends who will support a more caring and safer nationalistic than socialist England.

(Use this link below to see how Sikhs, Hindus and Muslims etc vote to the detriment of the English community.)

http://www.runnymedetrust.org/uploads/EMBES%20Voting%20Behaviour.pdf

English Advocates, Facebook 15 Comments [5/13/2016 2:57:23 PM]
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Quote# 118916

i think ziak is spread by our disobediance to our Lord jesus crhist may us all bow to him and keep God inn our prayers so we do not contract this horrible zika virus

kinkykink, Fox News 25 Comments [5/13/2016 3:34:04 AM]
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Submitted By: KittyKaboom

Quote# 118914

On today's "Pray In Jesus Name" program, Religious Right activist and Colorado state legislator Gordon Klingenschmitt shared his thoughts on a lawsuit filed against a California school district for refusing to inform students about scholarships that were being offered by atheist groups.

The Freedom From Religion Foundation and a local freethinker organization were offering college scholarships but district officials refused to include them on a list of scholarships that was distributed to students even though the list featured several overtly religious scholarships.

In Klingenschmitt's view, this is perfectly okay because trying to "bribe" public school students with an atheist scholarship is unconstitutional.

"To advertise atheist scholarships to all of the Christian students or the Jewish students or even the homosexual students," he said, "to say that everyone should be able to get this money if you just renounce your faith, that, to me, is itself unconstitutional. There is no place for atheist recruiters to come into your schools and recruit children to violate their parent's religion."

Offering Christian scholarships, on the other hand, is totally acceptable because the majority of students in public school are Christians, Klingenschmitt said, and so "for an opportunity to be offered to a Christian child that, if they write an essay about God that they should get Christian scholarship money, that's not bribery. They're keeping their own religion ... You're reinforcing what the parents want their kid's faith to be. This is a parental rights issue."

Sure, some atheist parents might object to students being offered a scholarship for writing Christian essays, Klingenschmitt admitted, but that is totally different than saying "to Christian children that we're going to bribe you with [a scholarship] if you convert and renounce your parent's faith about how great it is to be an atheist."

"That would be upsetting and offensive to parents who want their children raised in a Christian faith," he stated, before praying that school officials will fight this lawsuit and "stand up for the freedom of religion for Christian students in public schools to not be coerced and bribed to convert to atheism against their parent's faith."

Gordon Klingenschmitt, Right Wing Watch 25 Comments [5/13/2016 3:33:33 AM]
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Submitted By: Dark Phoenix

Quote# 118913

I am of Serbian heritage. During WW2 my ancestors lived in the notorious Independent State of Croatia, where hundreds of thousands of Serbs were murdered by the Ustasha movement. Yet, my ancestors fought against this, some of them joining the Yugoslav Partisans or going into hiding if they were too young. Other Serbs would flee to some other country nearby or join the Chetnik movement.

Despite the fact that the Serbian regime in the Kingdom of Yugoslavia was often brutal towards non-Serbs, there was nothing ordinary Serbs living in NDH did to deserve such pogroms.

So if some Ustasha during a WW2 captured a Serbian woman and dragged her to execute her Ustashas would be stunned and probably laughed themselves silly if her brother, husband or a father was going after them and begging them to allow him to break one of her legs or shouting at them to shoot her in the head because they're both monsters.

And bear in mind, this Serbian regime lasted until 1941, and WW2 in Yugoslavia from 1941 to 1945 !

Slavery ended in America and other places in the West over a hundred years ago, most regular Americans did nothing to harm the Muslims, blacks or their other holy groups, *certainly no living American participated in regular, state sanctioned slave trade while many of the Serbs that resisted from 1941 were a part of an oppressive regime before April 1941*, yet they would act just the way WW2 Serbs never did.

These imbeciles have no idea that it was other Africans who captured slaves for the Europeans and sold these to them, that Arabs held many slave trade routes in which the mortality of black slaves was much higher then on Western ships, that Barbary pirates were regularly capturing white slaves up to 19th century in the Mediterranean or that it were Western countries that ended slavery.

They are ridden with white guilt and so historically illiterate that I know they would be the ones doing what I described as something that WW2 Serbs would never do. Once blacks, Muslims or some other group liberals find sacred would try to capture or kill their women they'd actively encourage them to kill these women, screaming how they all must be punished for being monsters. I was just imagining one of these liberals running after a pack of blacks, Muslims or whatever other group liberals find sacred who are carrying his wife and begging them hysterically to let him harm her as well, to allow him to beat her more severely than they would, as if to somehow wash off their horrible sins. It made me laugh so hard.

What pathetic lunatic cucks liberals are.

caamib, r/Truecels 70 Comments [5/13/2016 3:33:21 AM]
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Quote# 118912

>I think I answered most of it above

You didn't answer jack shit. You're the same idiot you always were. And now you've reached the levels of stupidity that...

>but I dont get this sacred clasee stuff, I don't know what you mean.


... I have to explain your own religion to you?

You don't understand your own religion?

DUDE, YOU'RE A LIBERAL.

**PRIVILEGE**

Do you understand?

Non - privileged people are sacred, you owe them everything and they can do whatever they want, to whomever they want. They can kill your mother, sister, whore "gf", anybody, and you will be dancing.

Are you really demented enough not to see that?

>like I dont believe you have had enough experience with women

Again, if you "believe" that you failed to read anything I wrote about my experience. Thus it's not a belief anymore but a delusional attack. Like me saying I believe Bill Gates is poor. I believe it. I really do. And somebody's supposed to take me seriously and not ban me because I'm a moron.

>you can respectfully disagree without banning people and disregarding them

Unless they're a) breaking the rules b) being delusional lunatics, which is what you are doing and being in your every post.

>It wasn't abuse or insults

It was, given that your "opinion" has nothing to do with reality of my life I described.


>which intrigued me for a bi

Yet you never tried to actually read and learn anything about it. So this is another lie.

>I love how you keep calling me a liberal.

You support every single feminist policy. That you "don't like" the world you wholeheartedly support is why you're a moron. Get back to me when you start supporting eradication of every single feminist, abolition of every single political right women have and a return to a strictly patriarchal society. Because, you fucking idiot, lack of these created today's world.

But I'm "anti women" for knowing how to solve these problems, you know?

Go fuck yourself you mental midget.

caamib, r/worstof 35 Comments [5/13/2016 3:18:18 AM]
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Quote# 118908

Inferior? No. But yes, Paul teaches correctly God's preferred headship on earth...that the man is the head (or leader) of the woman.
[...]
So to repeat the order of leadership/headship: God-->Jesus-->Man-->Woman. This still holds true today regardless of what is politically correct in modern times.

Brokenhill, Christian Forums 24 Comments [5/13/2016 3:17:38 AM]
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Quote# 118905

If Heaven and Hell are the only options, isn’t that a dictatorship?

A dictatorship is an absolute overbearing power, usually in governmental form, where the people in the country have no freedom. But that is not the case with God. Heaven and Hell are the only options available according to Biblical theology. You see, Heaven is the presence of God, and Hell is the absence of God. You are either with God or not with God. There aren't any other options. So, God declaring that these are the options doesn't mean He's a dictator. It means He's informing us of how things really are--that there are only two options available.

Furthermore, people have the freedom to reject God and His great love shown to us in the person of Jesus Christ who was crucified, died, was buried, and rose from the dead for our sins (1 Cor. 15:1-4). If God were a dictator, then He would not allow people to make the choices to either follow Him or reject Him. If God were a dictator, He would force everyone to believe what He wants them to believe. Since God does not do this, He is not a dictator.

Matt Slick, CARM 30 Comments [5/13/2016 3:16:32 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 118899

Miss Parton is infamous for her role in such worldly films as, “The Best Little Whore House In Texas.” She is infamous for her giant fake breasts! Her profession of Christian faith is as big and fake as her breasts!!! Perhaps you ask, “What right do you have to criticize Dolly Parton?” Hey, she is a public figure, and has tens-of-millions of fans worldwide. So when she teaches the Devil's lie that everyone is God's child, faithful true Christians need to refute her heresy. Decent people need to rebuke her indecency, which influences our youth. Dolly Parton is a role model, and so she ought to be criticized for behaving shamefully, taking her clothes off in public and serving the Devil. This is not condemning Dolly (that is God's place alone - James 4:12); but rather, it is refuting her works of darkness, as Ephesians 5:11 commands every believer to do.

Dolly defends her attire and behavior that causes lasciviousness (sensuality that leads to lust and immorality):

Is God shallow Dolly? Are all the God-fearing, faithful, people-loving, sin-hating, soul-winning, Bible-preaching, uncompromising, preachers across the world “shallow” for preaching that females ought to dress modestly? Dolly Parton is trying to justify her public lewdness, nudity and sensuality as a form of glamour art. The Bible calls it the sin of lust! 1st Peter 2:11, “Dearly beloved, I beseech you as strangers and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul.” Dolly speaks arrogantly, defiantly and with rebellion against the Holy Scriptures, which teach that a woman ought to dress in modest apparel (1st Timothy 2:9). Miss Parton is now 70-years-old and eternity is drawing nearer and nearer for her. Life is short, Hell is hot, and eternity is a long time.

I am not condemning Dolly Parton for her sins and faults, for I am the biggest sinner that I know (and you are too if you'll be honest with yourself). However, I am exposing Dolly Parton as a false prophet for saying that we are all God's children (as I will address next). I am exposing Dolly Parton for exposing her thighs and breasts in public, and defending it as mere girly glamour. No, it is lasciviousness!!! It is sensuality, lust and mental adultery! It is a wicked thing to defend immodest clothing, the attire of a harlot (Proverbs 7:10), as being an acceptable form of art. No, it is a sin!!! Dolly defends her public indecency and sexually promiscuous attire as “glamour.” Isaiah 5:20, “Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!”

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Precious 45 Comments [5/12/2016 3:08:39 AM]
Fundie Index: 17

Quote# 118898

Anti-government rancher Cliven Bundy will file a lawsuit against President Barack Obama and numerous other officials on Tuesday, The Hill reported.

The lawsuit will seek to have Bundy’s indictment by a federal grand jury dismissed and for him to be released from solitary confinement.

It accuses not only Obama, but Sen. Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) and federal District Court Judge Gloria Navarro of violating his constitutional rights, as well as Reid’s son, ex-Clark County Commission chair Rory Reid.

Bundy was indicted in February in connection with the 2014 standoff he instigated against federal officials for refusing to pay grazing fees for 20 years.

Another federal judge, Magistrate Judge Carl Hoffman Jr., rejected Bundy’s request in March to be released from jail, arguing that Bundy posed a danger to the public.

Cliven Bundy, Raw Story 18 Comments [5/12/2016 3:08:28 AM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 118897

Drailon:
We have a climate change nut running the Alberta Legislature. Within 1 year of her being in office, the once mighty Alberta economy is now in turmoil. Unemployment is very high now. Coal plants are on the verge of closing. Oil/gas companies are too afraid to invest in Alberta and are going elsewhere.

Koalie:
I heard that the fires in Alberta were possibly caused by arson, and we know that Fort McMurry is an oil boomtown. I wonder if someone purposely set the fires to hinder the flow of oil? ?

https://www.google.com/amp/www.latim...droid-samsung#


Drailon and Koalie, Rapture Ready 11 Comments [5/12/2016 3:08:19 AM]
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Submitted By: Arceus

Quote# 118896

["My wife wants to have another child, but I think we already have enough work and children—we do not have much time left to our day! Having another child will just burden us further. In truth, as I am about to hit submit, I am laughing at myself. Why am I writing to you? As a rabbi, you of course believe that we should have more children! Maybe I am actually looking for the right person to convince me to make this decision..."]

When I first read the second paragraph of your question, I smiled together with you. What were you thinking? But you yourself are able to explain it. You have a gut feeling; your soul is telling you it is a good idea to have another child.

Rationally, it may be logical to be content with two kids. But for the child that is unborn, I ask you to listen to the call of the soul. Will a new child cause you to lose some sleep for the first year or so? Most probably, yes. But one thing is for sure - in the future this will be a decision that you will never regret, for children bring the deepest joy to their parents.

With regards to financial constraints - an understandable concern - when fulfilling the wishes of the Creator of the world, one can feel content that He surely will provide sustenance for the children.

Rabbi Mendy Kaminker, Chabad.org 18 Comments [5/12/2016 3:00:46 AM]
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Quote# 118893

Bill Nye Agrees: “There’s No Such Thing as Race”

In a recent interview on Comedy Central’s The Nightly Show, host Larry Wilmore asked TV’s popular Bill Nye “The Science Guy” the question, “Does racism exist in the animal kingdom?” In Nye’s reply he made this statement, “We’re all the same . . . from a scientific standpoint there’s no such thing as race.” Bill Nye’s answer showed how much evolutionists have changed their position when it comes to the idea of different human races. Actually, this part of Nye’s answer is much more a biblical than an evolutionary view of humanity.

Changing Evolutionary Views

Bill Nye’s statement that “We’re all the same . . . from a scientific standpoint there’s no such thing as race” has been confirmed many times by observational science. For example, when researchers completed the incredible feat of mapping the human genome in 2000, they declared that, based on genetics, “there is only one race—the human race.”1 But this conclusion is not what was predicted in an evolutionary worldview.

DARWIN’S IDEAS ABOUT HUMAN EVOLUTION WERE INHERENTLY RACIST.

Darwin’s ideas about human evolution were inherently racist. He held that different groups of humans evolved at different times so some were closer to their ape-like ancestors than others. The late Stephen Jay Gould, an evolutionist, stated, “Biological arguments for racism may have been common before 1859, but they increased by orders of magnitude following the acceptance of evolutionary theory.”2

Evolutionary ideas about race led to all kinds of horrors such as members of pygmy tribes being put in zoos beside apes,3 injustices toward groups like the Australian aborigines,4 and atrocities like Hitler’s attempted extermination of groups like the Jews, Poles, Slavs, and Gypsies. Each of these horrors—and many more—stemmed directly from Darwinian ideas about evolution. So, according to evolutionary predictions, we should expect to see many different races of humans, each at different levels of evolutionary development. Darwin even predicted that the “Caucasian” should have exterminated all other races. This is a failed prediction by the “high priest” of evolution.

Evolutionary ideas about race have largely changed, however, as a result of Christian challenges. As Bill Nye’s statement shows, observational science did not confirm the idea that there were many different races, but instead confirmed the biblical prediction of one race. The shade of our skin does not reflect evolutionary progress but is primarily the result of our genetic makeup that determines how much of a brown-colored pigment called melanin that our skin produces. More melanin produces a dark brown, “blackish” shade, and less melanin produces a lighter brown, “whitish” shade. There is no such thing as different races! This observation from science goes completely against what evolutionists of the past predicted, so evolutionists today were forced to change their ideas to align with the biblical view.

Unchanging Word of God

GOD’S WORD HAS ALWAYS TAUGHT THAT THERE IS ONLY ONE RACE—THE HUMAN RACE.

Now, if instead of starting with man’s fallible ideas about the past, secular scientists had turned to God’s Word and started their thinking with the infallible Word of God, they would not have made these erroneous conclusions that later needed to be corrected by observational science. God’s Word has always taught that there is only one race—the human race. We did not evolve but were specially and uniquely created in God’s image from the very beginning (Genesis 1:26–27). God did not create different races, but “He has made from one blood every nation of men to dwell on all the face of the earth” (Acts 17:26). Every single human being is a descendant of the first couple, Adam and Eve (Genesis 1:27, 3:20), so we are all related. According to God’s Word, there are not different biological races, there is only one. God’s unchanging Word had it right all along and man’s changing ideas about the past had to catch up with it.

The Tower of Babel

During his interview with Larry Wilmore, Bill Nye said, “So everybody’s from East Africa . . . You migrate into Mesopotamia . . . You have to have lighter skin. It’s this balance between Vitamin D production in your skin and the breaking down of . . . folic acid. Then you migrate across Eurasia . . . Then there’s an ice age. All the snow’s frozen up in the mountains so you can walk to . . . [Alaska]. And then you come down the west coast. [Racism] started because you have these tribes and they have different skin colors as a result of ultraviolet light.” Now, while there are several evolutionary assumptions in Bill Nye’s statements (such as the idea that humanity began in East Africa) and we would certainly not agree with the timeline that Bill Nye holds to for these events, his statements actually sound similar to something a creationist might say!

According to God’s Word, all of humanity is descended from Adam and Eve. This first couple rebelled against God and introduced sin, death, and suffering into creation. Their descendants became increasingly wicked until “every intent of the thoughts of [their] heart[s] was only evil continually” (Genesis 6:5), so God sent a global Flood to judge their wickedness. Only eight people, the righteous Noah and his family, were saved through the Flood. After the Flood, God commanded Noah and his family, “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth” (Genesis 9:1). But instead of filling the earth, like they had been commanded to, Noah’s descendants gathered together and built a city and a tower (in Mesopotamia, no less). So God confused their languages, thus forcing them to spread out over the earth (Genesis 11:1–9).

Shortly after the Flood and the Tower of Babel, much of the world was engulfed in the Ice Age that was part of the aftermath of the Flood. This would have exposed land bridges, such as the Bering Strait between modern-day Russia and Alaska. As people migrated from Babel, some of the groups walked across this land bridge into the Americas or came by boat where they eventually spread out from North America to South America.

THE TOWER OF BABEL EXPLAINS WHY WE ARE SO DIFFERENT.

The Tower of Babel explains why we are so different. The different people groups did not begin as humanity migrated from East Africa. They began after God confused the languages and groups began to migrate from Babel on the Plain of Shinar in the Middle East. This also divided up the family group and split the gene pool, including various skin shades. Depending on where these groups lived and populated, the resultant genes were left to their descendants.

Because these groups were reproductively isolated due to the language barrier as well as later geographical barriers, different features, like skin shade or eye shape, were associated with different groups. Babel explains our differences! Different people groups are not the result of evolution. They are the result of the division of languages at the time of the Tower of Babel.

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Eventually, the same forces that supposedly produced humans should cause humans to evolve into something new, different, and more fit for the environment. So for Bill Nye to say that “All you’re going to get’s a human. You’re not going to get some new thing” is completely inconsistent with his amoeba-to-astronaut evolutionary worldview, but it is completely consistent with both God’s Word and observational science. According to God’s Word, each organism—including humans—reproduces according to its kind. So we should not expect to see humans producing anything but humans. And this is exactly what the evidence confirms: humans produce humans.

God’s Word Has Been Teaching One Race All Along
Observational science did not confirm evolutionary religious ideas about the past. So evolutionists simply changed evolutionary ideas to match the new data. But what they should have done is realized that the observational evidence confirms what God’s Word has been teaching all along. If they had started with God’s Word, they would have had the right foundation for their thinking and would not have reached such erroneous conclusions. It is God’s infallible Word—not man’s changing and fallible ideas—that is true and is confirmed by the observational evidence.

Avery Foley, Answers in Genesis 23 Comments [5/12/2016 3:00:05 AM]
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Quote# 118890

If the votes are honestly counted, Duerte Harry will be the next president of the Philippines.

He was previously mayor of Davao, where he solved a crime problem, in substantial part a problem of Muslim criminals predating on Christians, by killing criminals. A lot of criminals. Of all religions.

When I was in Davao, some people threatened him with lawfare, and he responded in his newspaper that if they sued him, he would kill them, their wives, and their children.

Motorized tricycles are the major form of public transportation in some parts of Davao and most places near Davao. My tricycle driver stopped to buy fuel, and told me how a street kid had snatched a fuel payment, equivalent to six US dollars, and subsequently been killed by one of Duerte Harry’s death squads.

I wonder how many other payments that kid snatched before they nailed him. Also, how big was this “kid”? Had to be strong enough to snatch, and fast enough to get away.

The people who were allegedly death squads were wonderfully disciplined, always perfectly polite and courteous, their uniforms extremely neat, their guns and decorations shiny. I felt very safe with them, whereas I don’t feel safe with western police, who are conspicuously undisciplined and discourteous. I always get the feeling that western police may capriciously decide I have done something illegal (after all, there are so many things that are illegal) just to show me who is boss. I have always been able to talk my way out of trouble with police even when caught red handed, except for traffic offenses, or else my lawyer was able to talk me out of trouble, but why the hell should I need to talk my way out of trouble? I am an honest decent guy. Anarcho tyranny is that they enforce all sorts of laws against people like me, and not against the kid who snatches six dollars.

When car-burning riots raged in Sweden, police had a policy of deliberately doing nothing about the rioters while cracking down decisively on so-called “vigilantes” who tried to stop immigrant rioters burning cars and neighborhoods. To add insult to injury, authorities issued parking tickets on burned cars.

In America, a four year old boy was groped in a bathroom. His father slugged the groper. Father arrested, groper not arrested.

See Will’s anarcho tyranny blog for a long long list of what police do while allowing criminals to run amuck. He tends to focus on tyranny. Here is some anarchy. And more anarchy.

Duerte Harry’s death squads don’t do anything like that, any more than they would let the brass on their uniforms get dull, or drink while on duty, or wear uniforms that were less than perfectly neat and pressed. Their scrupulous neatness and rigid discipline is a symbol that they do not engage in such self indulgent bullying. Their perfect courtesy and crisply pressed uniforms are a promise that they do not threaten people like me. They threaten people who would snatch six dollars out of my hand.

Jim, Jim's Blog 20 Comments [5/12/2016 2:59:11 AM]
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Quote# 118613

Allen Frances confessed how there is no definition of a mental disorder, and how it’s bullshit, but that’s not entirely true. There is a definition?—?that mental illness is a position in a pecking order. And pecking orders are not bullshit, but are hard-wired into the social organisation of all mammals.
Our brains make extrapolation about its social status based on feedback from the group, and expands our shrinks the self through adjusting serotonin levels. Esteem. This self-mirroring behavior facilitates the spread of memes within cultures, and makes it possible to spread information fast.
The guise of psychological authority is just a way to gain an advantage in the competition for authority. It’s a strategy to remain at the top of the hierarchy, to secure one’s position in the pecking order, while making sure those at the bottom continue to take all the punches. It’s politics. It’s cheating.
Diagnoses are the contemporary equivalent of racial biology. It’s used to legitimize ideas that would otherwise have been contested, provides the authority necessary for statism to emerge, and has no real science or empirical evidence to back it up.
100 years ago, hysteria was used to legitimize enslavement of females. 50 years ago, homosexuality was pathologized to ostrasize and dis-empower gays. 20 years ago, ADHD and bipolarity and schizophrenia and autism was used to legitimize wage slavery or the enslavement of children into a coercive education system. These superstitions are merely a strategy to legitimize coercion and to gain an advantage in the competition for power. And, 100 years ago, people accepted hysteria as a story. 50 years ago, people accepted the story that homosexuality was a mental illness. 20 years ago, people accepted the story that their children suffered from ADHD or autism, or that their friends were schizophrenic and lived in an alternate reality. And so on.
These diagnoses are not science, they are local tradition, a form of superstition and a pre-requisite for statism. Without them there could be no statism?—?the pecking order would collapse?—?which is why we need to stand up for the fact that they are myths.

Johan Nygren, Medium.com 23 Comments [5/11/2016 2:14:28 PM]
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