Quote# 117313

There are some inaccuracies in the translations of the bible, especially regarding some parts which should be translated very correctly. As you all surely know, dragons do spit fire. Even JHWH does this in psalm 11: "Upon the wicked he shall rain snares, fire and brimstone, and an horrible tempest: this shall be the portion of their cup."

Stefan Neil Klemenc, The Flight of the Condor 12 Comments [3/9/2016 3:33:11 AM]
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Quote# 117312

Many mystical creatures are demons shape-shifting throughout history. If the creature is "metaphysical", has special powers, etc, then watch out! Leprechauns, Gnomes, Elves, Fairies, Goblins

Bible Believer, Galatians 4 15 Comments [3/9/2016 3:32:39 AM]
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Quote# 117305

Question: "Why did God condone such terrible violence in the Old Testament?"

Answer: The fact that God commanded the killing of entire nations in the Old Testament has been the subject of harsh criticism from opponents of Christianity for some time. That there was violence in the Old Testament is indisputable. The question is whether Old Testament violence is justifiable and condoned by God. In his bestselling book The God Delusion, atheist Richard Dawkins refers to the God of the Old Testament as “a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser.” Journalist Christopher Hitchens complains that the Old Testament contains a warrant for “indiscriminate massacre.” Other critics of Christianity have leveled similar charges, accusing Yahweh of “crimes against humanity.”

But are these criticisms valid? Is the God of the Old Testament a “moral monster” who arbitrarily commands genocide against innocent men, women, and children? Was His reaction to the sins of the Canaanites and the Amalekites a vicious form of “ethnic cleansing” no different from atrocities committed by the Nazis? Or is it possible that God could have had morally sufficient reasons for ordering the destruction of these nations?

A basic knowledge of Canaanite culture reveals its inherent moral wickedness. The Canaanites were a brutal, aggressive people who engaged in bestiality, incest, and even child sacrifice. Deviant sexual acts were the norm. The Canaanites’ sin was so repellent that God said, “The land vomited out its inhabitants” (Leviticus 18:25). Even so, the destruction was directed more at the Canaanite religion (Deuteronomy 7:3–5,12:2-3) than at the Canaanite people per se. The judgment was not ethnically motivated. Individual Canaanites, like Rahab in Jericho, could still find that mercy follows repentance (Joshua 2). God's desire is that the wicked turn from their sin rather than die (Ezekiel 18:31-32, 33:11).

Besides dealing with national sins, God used the conquest of Canaan to create a religious/historical context in which He could eventually introduce the Messiah to the world. This Messiah would bring salvation not only to Israel, but also to Israel’s enemies, including Canaan (Psalm 87:4-6; Mark 7:25–30).

It must be remembered that God gave the Canaanite people more than sufficient time to repent of their evil ways—over 400 years (Genesis 15:13–16)! The book of Hebrews tells us that the Canaanites were “disobedient,” which implies moral culpability on their part (Hebrews 11:31). The Canaanites were aware of God's power (Joshua 2:10–11; 9:9) and could have sought repentance. Except in rare instances, they continued their rebellion against God until the bitter end.

But didn’t God also command the Israelites to kill non-combatants? The biblical record is clear that He did. Here again, we must remember that, while it is true the Canaanite women did not fight, this in no way means they were innocent, as their seductive behavior in Numbers 25 indicates (Numbers 25:1–3). However, the question still remains: what about the children? This is not an easy question to answer, but we must keep several things in mind. First, no human person (including infants) is truly innocent. The Scripture teaches that we are all born in sin (Psalm 51:5; 58:3). This implies that all people are morally culpable for Adam’s sin in some way. Infants are just as condemned from sin as adults are.

Second, God is sovereign over all of life and can take it whenever He sees fit. God and God alone can give life, and God alone has the right to take it whenever He so chooses. In fact, He ultimately takes every person's life at death. It is not our life to begin with but God’s. While it is wrong for us to take a life, except in instances of capital punishment, war, and self-defense, this does not mean that it is wrong for God to do so. We intuitively recognize this when we accuse some person or authority who takes human life as "playing God." God is under no obligation to extend anyone's life for even another day. How and when we die is completely up to Him.

Third, an argument could be made that it would have been cruel for God to take the lives of all the Canaanites except the infants and children. Without the protection and support of their parents, the infants and small children were likely to face death anyway due to starvation. The chances of survival for an orphan in the ancient Near East were not good.

Finally, and most importantly, God may have provided for the salvation for those infants who would not have otherwise attained salvation if they had lived into adulthood. We must remember that the Canaanites were a barbarous and evil culture. If those infants and children had lived into adulthood, it is very likely they would have turned into something similar to their parents and been condemned to hell after they died. If all infants and young children who die before an age of moral accountability go straight to heaven (as we believe), then those children are in a far better place than if God had allowed them to live and grow to maturity in a depraved culture.

Surely, the issue of God commanding violence in the Old Testament is difficult. However, we must remember that God sees things from an eternal perspective, and His ways are not our ways (Isaiah 55:8–9). The apostle Paul tells us that God is both kind and severe (Romans 11:22). While it is true that God's holy character demands that sin be punished, His grace and mercy remain extended to those who are willing to repent and be saved. The Canaanite destruction provides us with a sober reminder that, while our God is gracious and merciful, He is also a God of holiness and wrath.


got question, got questions 50 Comments [3/8/2016 4:49:43 AM]
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Submitted By: sweetride

Quote# 117304

Answer: The Old Testament records God killing multitudes of people, and some people want to believe this makes Him a murderer. The misconception that “killing” and “murder” are synonymous is partially based on the King James mistranslation of the sixth commandment, which reads, “Thou shalt not kill” (Exodus 20:13). However, the word kill is a translation of the Hebrew word ratsach, which nearly always refers to intentional killing without cause. The correct rendering of this word is “murder,” and all modern translations render the command as “You shall not murder.” The Bible in Basic English best conveys its meaning: “Do not put anyone to death without cause.”

It is true that God has intentionally killed many people. (God never “accidentally” does anything.) In fact, the Bible records that He literally wiped out entire nations including women, children, cattle, etc. In addition to that, God killed every living creature upon the face of the earth with the exception of eight people and the animals on the ark (Genesis 7:21-23; 1 Peter 3:20). Does this make Him a murderer?

As already stated, to kill and to murder are different things. Murder is “the premeditated, unlawful taking of a life,” whereas killing is, more generally, “the taking of a life.” The same Law that forbids murder permits killing in self-defense (Exodus 22:2).

In order for God to commit murder, He would have to act “unlawfully.” We must recognize that God is God. “His works are perfect, and all His ways are just. A faithful God who does no wrong, upright and just is He” (Deuteronomy 32:4; see also Psalm 11:7; 90:9). He created man and expects obedience (Exodus 20:4-6; Exodus 23:21; 2 John 1:6). When man takes it upon himself to disobey God, he faces God’s wrath (Exodus 19:5; Exodus 23:21-22; Leviticus 26:14-18). Furthermore, “God is a just judge, and God is angry with the wicked every day. If [man] does not turn back, He will sharpen His sword; He bends His bow and makes it ready” (Psalm 7:11-12).

Some would argue that executing the innocent is murder; thus, when God wipes out whole cities, He is committing murder. However, nowhere in Scripture can we find where God killed “innocent” people. In fact, compared to God’s holiness, there is no such thing as an “innocent” person. All have sinned (Romans 3:23), and the penalty for sin is death (Romans 6:23a). God has “just cause” to wipe us all out; the fact that He doesn’t is proof of His mercy.

When God chose to destroy all mankind in the Flood, He was totally justified in doing so: “Then the LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually” (Genesis 6:5).

During the conquest of Canaan, God ordered the complete destruction of entire cities and nations: “But of the cities of these peoples which the LORD your God gives you as an inheritance, you shall let nothing that breathes remain alive, but you shall utterly destroy them: the Hittite and the Amorite and the Canaanite and the Perizzite and the Hivite and the Jebusite, just as the LORD your God has commanded you” (Deuteronomy 20:16-17). And Joshua did what God had told him (Joshua 10:40).

Why did God give such a command? Israel was God’s instrument of judgment against the Canaanites, who were evil, almost beyond what we can imagine today: “Every abomination to the LORD which He hates they have done to their gods; for they burn even their sons and daughters in the fire to their gods” (Deuteronomy 12:31). Their utter annihilation was commanded to prevent Israel from following their ways: “Lest they teach you to do according to all their abominations which they have done for their gods, and you sin against the LORD your God” (Deuteronomy 20:18; also Deuteronomy 12:29-30).

Even in the dire judgments of the Old Testament, God offered mercy. For example, when God was about to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah, God promised Abraham that He would spare the whole city in order to save ten righteous people there. Though God did destroy those cities (ten righteous people could not be found), He saved “righteous Lot” and his family (Genesis 18:32; Genesis 19:15; 2 Peter 2:7). Later, God destroyed Jericho, but He saved Rahab the harlot and her family in response to Rahab’s faith (Joshua 6:25; Hebrews 11:31). Until the final judgment, there is always mercy to be found.

Every person dies in God’s own time (Hebrews 9:27; Genesis 3:19). Jesus holds the keys of death (Revelation 1:18). Does the fact that everyone experiences physical death make God a “killer”? In the sense that He could prevent all death, yes. He allows us to die. But He is no murderer. Death is part of the human experience because we brought it into the world ourselves (Romans 5:12). One day, as John Donne put it, “Death shall be no more; death, thou shalt die.” God, in His grace, has conquered death for those who are in Christ, and one day that truth will be fully realized: “The last enemy to be subdued and abolished is death” (1 Corinthians 15:26).

God is faithful to His word. He will destroy the wicked, and He holds “the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment” (2 Peter 2:9). But He has also promised that “the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord” (Romans 6:23b).


got question, got questions 16 Comments [3/8/2016 4:49:37 AM]
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Submitted By: sweetride

Quote# 117303

Submission is vital to succeeding with God. In this relationship, all of the power and authority are on His side. He won’t let you be His partner—He insists on being the Alpha. He insists on His opinion being viewed as the one that trumps yours. He says that you must surrender yourself to the idea that pleasing Him is more important than pleasing yourself. Most Christians don’t come anywhere close to giving God full submission. They just give Him enough submission to acquire salvation, but then they spend their lives trying to keep Him at arm’s length by ignoring Him as much as possible. Decide that you’re not going to be just another fool who refused to pursue what really matters in life.

You were brought into being for the purpose of pursuing a personal relationship with your Maker. Sinking to new depths of immorality and being shocked by the discovery that your potential to do evil is far greater than you thought—these things should not be viewed as reasons for despair, but instead as priceless opportunities to move much closer to God. Ask Him to help you learn everything that He wants to teach you and to make you all that He wants you to be. Such a focus will not only steer you away from despair, but it will set you on a new course in life: one that involves the pursuit of what really matters. In the end, it really isn’t going to matter at all how many battles you won or how many bad guys you arrested or how many wars you helped to prevent. All that will matter is how well you know your Creator and how pleased He is with you. God often uses traumatic experiences to motivate us to correct our priorities in life. Don’t let this opportunity pass you by.

Anna Diehl , The Pursuit of God 23 Comments [3/8/2016 3:56:59 AM]
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Quote# 117301

The Women’s Protection Act, passed by Pakistan’s largest province of Punjab last week, would seem the type of law that no civilized person could contest. It offers legal protection to women from sexual abuse and violence while calling for the creation of a toll-free abuse reporting hot line and the establishment of women’s shelters. However, the Council of Islamic Ideology, a powerful Pakistani religious body that advises the government on the compatibility of laws with Islam, has now declared that criminalizing violence against women is “un-Islamic.”

Various Islamic clerics and religious leaders previously denounced the law as conflicting with the teachings of Islam and the Koran.

Fazlur Rehman, the chief of one of Pakistan’s largest religious parties, the Jamiat-i-Ulema Islam, explained that “this law makes a man insecure. This law is an attempt to make Pakistan a Western colony again.”

Islamic Ideology Council, Fazlur Rehman and several unnamed Pakistani imams and clerics, Jonathan Turley 30 Comments [3/8/2016 3:56:26 AM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 117300

You should know by now that you cannot silence the pro-life message. Hitler tried to do the same with the slaughter of the Jews, guess who won in the end.

Anonymous, Tumblr 29 Comments [3/7/2016 4:13:55 AM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 117299

There is a lot of demonic influences in the Evangelical movement.
Being able to control people and force your will on them is Witchcraft.
The Evangelical movement is obsessed with Money.
You cannot serve God and Mammon.
Trump is a worshipper of the Golden Calf.
TheIsraelites were told to destroy the Calf, grind it up and put it into their water, and all had to drink from it. They poisoned their bodies with their greed for Money£€$
Does this remind you of the things which are happenning today with food additives, aspartame etc?
It is greed and love of Money.

Donald Trump controls the prodtitution industry in Las Vegas. His hotels are hot beds for high class hoes, they charge up to $10,000 per night. Some are famous people, pop stars etc, mind controlled slaves of the elite, like Britney, Katy Perry, Barbra Streisand. It is part of the deal, why they are rich and famous, they have to be 'private dancers' for politicians and oil tycoons. Tina Turner had a song about this because it happened to her after her husband (Ike, MK Ultra handler) died.

jesus lizard, David Icke's Official Forums 27 Comments [3/7/2016 4:13:44 AM]
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Submitted By: TimeToTurn

Quote# 117296

There are many unbelievers, skeptics and scoffers in the world. One such man is Dr. Stephen Hawking, a renowned theoretical physicist[1] who denies the existence of a divine Creator, that is, God...

“We are each free to believe what we want and it is my view that the simplest explanation is there is no God. No one created the universe and no one directs our fate. This leads me to a profound realization. There is probably no heaven, and no afterlife either. We have this one life to appreciate the grand design of the universe, and for that, I am extremely grateful.” —Physicist Stephen Hawking, a quote from a 2011 Discover Channel episode titled, “CURIOSITY” (S01 E01); “Stephen Hawking: There is no God. There is no Fate.”

Respectfully, Mr. Hawking is very wrong! He has it 180 degrees backwards! The simplest explanation is that THERE IS A GOD!!! Did you hear that my friend... The simplest explanation of the origin of the universe is that, THERE IS A GOD!!! The King James Bible makes infinitely more sense than Dr. Hawking's theories of unproven science. Remember what his training and career specializes in... “THEORETICAL PHYSICS.” That means Dr. Hawking makes a living concocting theories!!! THEORIES!!!

Wouldn't you rather trust the time-proven, logical, inspired, eternal Words of God? I sure would, and I do!!! Hawking was born in 1942, which means he's been alive for only 74 years. Proverbs 16:25, “There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.” The King James Bible has been here since 1611. I trust the King James Bible over Stephen Hawking. Jesus walked this earth 2,000 years ago. Abraham walked this earth 4,000 years ago. Moses walked this earth 3,500 years ago. King David walked this earth 3,000 years ago. Isaiah walked this earth 2,700 years ago. All these prophets, and our wonderful Savior, preached the Gospel. Acts 10:43, “To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.” Hawking is a pipsqueak!

david j. stewart, jesus is precious 33 Comments [3/7/2016 4:12:56 AM]
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Submitted By: undie not fundie

Quote# 117287

(Some guy starting to hate Buddhism)
i want to share this to you. though i was a born again christian my struggle with buddhism still continues. after my high school i continously wanted to know the true meaning of nirvana. i assumed that nirvana is a peaceful afterlife just like a passive version of our colorful heaven. i also interchanged the interpretation that once a person experienced nirvana peace of mind. however, it is not the buddhists who introduced me the real meaning of terminology of nirvana. it is christian apologists through their brief but almost accurate knowledge of buddhism sent my mind rotating 360 degree.
first, it is j isamu yamamoto's articles and books, who is also a japanese buddhist turned christian told me it is a state of nothingness but when buddhists are forced to debate with this they say experience it first and circular reasoning that it isnt nothingness.
second, various christian apologists pertained that it is nothingness. one from letusreason.org's scott noble's articles gave some light. he quoted on one article that there is a peace of mind nirvana before final extinction like dinosaurs nirvana.
lastly, i studied buddhists books that they are into circular reasoning and WORD PLAYS logically speaking it verified the frank and simple interpretation of nirvana of apologists into reality.
nirvana is not nothingness because there is nothing to start in the first place all is illusion. if you subscribe to buddhist context of no soul, illusion and no substance to a human being. for us who value personal identity so much it is nothingness. circular reasoning you see.

no wonder its vanity to see buddhists monarchs of thailand, samurais of japan and others talk about the transiency of life.

the more i looked upon the short comings of buddhism the ache of human psyche of immortality it made me instead a stronger christian than a feeble one.

lancelim, Rapture Ready 16 Comments [3/7/2016 4:08:29 AM]
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Submitted By: Arceus

Quote# 117286

(In response to an article that reveals that Iceland will build a Viking temple as a tribute to its Viking past)

Accepted: It's a sick, sick world.

onehappymeg: I saw this article a few days ago and they don't even "believe" in these "gods" but are doing it more just to do something. Pointless serving a stupid shrine.

No shrine ever conquered death for me...

moosejive: Man has always built "altars" to his "gods" from The tower at Babel, the golden calf, the pyramids and on and on...... The effort that goes into the construction and then the so called worship at these sites is found in the human race's desire to pay tribute to something beyond themselves. Unfortunately, the majority have missed the boat and worship nature, demons or nothing. The one,true God has called, but out of stubbornness, pride or foolishness man finds ways to ignore and deny Him...


Accepted, onehappymeg, and moosejive, Rapture Ready 24 Comments [3/7/2016 4:08:07 AM]
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Submitted By: Arceus

Quote# 117282

Again, not trying to bait, but that's what we're seeing now. The Liberals are trying to reshape this country into something it's not, while you have candidates like Trump struggling to keep us to our values.

Supporting Trump is looked down upon by the mainstream media, kinda like supporting the Rebels in the Star Wars universe.

Anonymous, Tumblr 50 Comments [3/6/2016 9:02:23 AM]
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Submitted By: Ivurm

Quote# 117281

In the end of 2007, Jesus informed me a life-threatening danger and He told me to pray for His divine protection. I did. Jesus launched a divine strike against my archenemy with pancreatic cancer and leukemia, slaughtering him to gruesome death. This guy became ill in July in 2008. And after 4-month struggling, he died by pancreatic cancer and leukemia. This guy intended to set me up in 2007. This guy wanted to kill me in 2007. And, Jesus told me to pray to Him for the divine protection. I did in the November of 2007. And, this guy became ill in July in 2008. And, this guy died in October in 2008. Pancreatic cancer and leukemia. Hallelujah. Praise Jesus for He killed my archenemy who intended to kill me. This guy died of pancreatic cancer and leukemia.

yphoon Morakot (I’m Peter the Joshua)
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In 2009, Lord Jesus Christ slashed my enemies with Typhoon Morakot after my prayers. Here’s my testimony, the largest-scale miracle I’ve ever witnessed when Jesus answered my prayers.
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Typhoon Morakot dumped a record 3,000 millimetres (120 inches) of rainfall and caused massive mudslides in the south of the island, … that a new beginning is always possible. Let the greening of the Earth in springtime be a sign for you that a new beginning is always possible, even after the longest, coldest, darkest winter.And, in this year, 2009, in Aug. Lord Jesus even did a great miracle for me. I did pray to Jesus to strike my enemies and fill all the reservoirs in Taiwan with one-year amount of rain. And then, after my prayer, Typhoon Morakot came to Taiwan and stroke the southern part of Taiwan and filled all the reservoirs in Taiwan with water.And, I also prayed to Jesus for holding Typhoon Morakot still in the air, and then Jesus did hold still Typhoon Morakot for 2 days. Typhoon Morakot stopped moving and was being held still in the air pouring down unprecedented amount of rain slashing and submerging my enemies’ properties. hallelujah to Jesus for this ultimate miracle He did for me after my prayer that day.I am a chosen prophet by Jesus. You mess with me, then you mess with Jesus. Do Not push me too hard. My life now is simple and easy. Any of you should seek Jesus, not seek me. I do not talk with any stranger online. I’ll definitely block you if you dare to contact me or comment on my posts. Do not violate my rule I’ve set. Just quietly browse my posts here and do your own homework. Do not ask me. I do not spend time discussing with any stranger online. I do not know any of you. I hate talking with any stranger online. I hate that. Do not irritate or annoy me. Or, I will absolutely block you, and that’s your huge loss.

usachinanukewar, All-out US-China nuclear war, looming, to wipe out one-fourths of the earth 17 Comments [3/6/2016 9:02:12 AM]
Fundie Index: 27
Submitted By: Denizen

Quote# 117279

[On the 2015 San Bernardino shooting:]

President Obama, of course, was quick to blame guns (all of which in this case were legally purchased) and to say the solution is to do something about guns. No, Mr. President, the problem is not guns. The problem is Islam, and the solution is to do something about Islam. The key is not getting control of guns, it's getting control of Islam. That's not Islamophobia, it's Islamorealism.

[...]

If the problem is Islam, then we are wasting our time and our breath if proposed solutions do not deal directly with limiting and reversing the spread of Islamic ideology in the United States. Suspending Islamic immigration altogether must be on the table, as well as aggressive surveillance of mosques and the Muslim community. The wisdom of granting permits to build even one more mosque in America must be part of the discussion.

The Center for Security Policy has determined that 80% of all the mosques in America promote jihad, either through literature or invited speakers. And since these are the most popular mosques, 95% of all Muslims who attend mosques on a weekly basis attend one of these jihadist-promoting houses of worship.

[...]

The point here is that there is no way to tell when the next Muslim will develop sudden jihad syndrome. It is perfectly irrelevant to the families of the 14 dead that only a small minority of Muslims are capable of such murderous violence.

President Obama is determined to bring 10,000 additional Syrian refugees to America, despite the widespread support among the Syrian people for ISIS. We have no way of knowing how many of such refugees - or any other Muslim immigrants, for that matter - will be infected with the jihadist virus.

Imagine for the sake of argument that someone offered to send you and your family 10,000 M&M's. But, by the way, they tell you, ten of them contain a lethal poison that will kill you, and we can't tell you which ten they are. In fact, the chemical composition of these M&M's is such that some of them might even turn poisonous after they get to your house. And I'm sorry, but we have no foolproof way of identifying which M&M's you have to worry about and which ones you don't. Now would you accept the shipment? Of course not.

[...]

God has already answered our prayers for protection. He's given us his Word, which indicates that Islam is a religion from hell and should not be embraced by any rational society. But we spurn his gift. We don't read his Word and we certainly don't heed it.

He's given us a Constitution which permits our government to seal our borders from carriers of the Islamic virus. But we are so blinded by political correctness that we don't do it.

And, according to Romans 13, he's given us a government with his delegated authority to use lethal force to protect our citizens from the Islamic threat. And yet our political leaders are so paralyzed by political correctness they won't even use the term "radical Islamic terrorism" let alone use the God-ordained power of civil government to do something about it.

If we don't use the resources God had given us in response to our prayers, we can hardly blame him when we get cut down at our Christmas parties.

Bryan Fischer, Barb Wire 29 Comments [3/6/2016 8:42:45 AM]
Fundie Index: 16

Quote# 117278

When Government Replaces God

The faith of our land often seems to lie in a heap of ashes.

Believers have their businesses shut down for not paying the jizya to the Rainbow Jihad. The Little Sisters of the Poor are legally prosecuted for not paying Sandra Fluke's abortifacient bill. Babies are ripped apart limb-by-limb and sold for profit.

The pagan progressivism rotting at the soul of this declining culture applauds it all. Its dark power grows stronger with each passing day.

[...]

[L]iberals cannot abide rules that can come from anywhere but their own inner child, and they know that a praying culture is an almost certain inoculation against the lies of the times. In short, they know they are no match for God. Ironically, these God haters know they are no match for God more deeply than many lukewarm believers are willing to trust in their own faith these days. And so the must mock and kill the praying impulse at every turn.

Our response should be clear. We would like to introduce you to the church militant. Yes, indeed, we are crazy for Jesus.

And you ain't seen nothing yet.

Steve Deace, Barb Wire 22 Comments [3/6/2016 8:42:34 AM]
Fundie Index: 11

Quote# 117277

Defending the Undefendable

It would have seemed that the debate over allowing more Muslim refugees into the United States would have been abruptly resolved the night of the Paris terror attacks. Europe has gotten itself into a hellish mess by failing to understand that Muslims are not compatible with Western culture. Strangely, many people in America are unable to grasp this lesson.

[...]

As I'm writing this article the nation of Belgium has come to an absolute standstill. The public schools, the subway system in the capital, businesses, major highways are closed because of the threat from a handful of Islamic terrorists. It's pure madness for people to want to bring more of this plague into our nation.

Perhaps here is some logical thinking behind the liberal's desire for Muslim refugees. Since a certain supernatural event is about to reduce the population of North America by several millions, our soon-be-to-left-behind leaders may just be trying to plan ahead.

Todd Strandberg, Rapture Forums 13 Comments [3/6/2016 8:28:30 AM]
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Quote# 117276

ROTARY: In a word, evil

Sholeh Patrick once again brings to our attention critical points regarding her always enlightening articles. This time it’s in “Happy birthday Rotary” published Feb. 23. She exposes this organization who, in the name of humanitarianism or service for others above self, without God, true Charity, as the motivating factor.

Why critical? Any human endeavor which promotes service for others, however omits the love of God as the single motivating factor, is intrinsically evil. It deceives souls into believing one can be good without God, the author of all good.

The Rotary International, is a Masonic institution — albeit members at lower levels may be unknowledgeable of this fact — which shares with communism the pursuit of a new world order. Their end result is to establish a brotherhood of man without the Fatherhood of God — a pursuit of peace or a earthly paradise. That is why these type organizations, including Lions clubs and Elks lodges, require one leave his or religion at the door when joining its ranks or contributing to their activities.

Esequiel Vasquez, Coeur d'Alene Press 20 Comments [3/6/2016 8:28:23 AM]
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Submitted By: TimeToTurn

Quote# 117275

Sure, sure, saying the return of Barbary Pirate-like sex slave raids on Western Europe is kind of a bad thing is fascist. Whatever. The fact that it's fascist not to want the white working class to be processed into Soylent Green and hand-fed like peeled grapes to vibrant diversities is precisely what Trump is running against.

Anonymous, Tumblr 14 Comments [3/6/2016 8:27:45 AM]
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Submitted By: Ivurm

Quote# 117274

"The average Muslim =/= an ISIS extremist. Why is that too hard to understand?"

Oh good argument, let me try:

"The average Nazi =/= soldier/killer of Jews. Why is that too hard to understand?"

"The average communist =/= Khmer Rouge or FARC fighter. Why is that too hard to understand?"

Won't somebody think of the "moderate" Nazis and communists?

I mean, I thought sane people judged an ideology by two things: its leaders, its doctrines, not by the masses of followers some of which may or may not be devout, may or may not be just naive useful idiots who don't realize what they're actually supporting.

Moderate Muslims are NOT in any way shape or form proof that Islam is a peaceful religion any more than moderate communists (many of which you can probably find on any college campus) or "peaceful" Nazis (not even neonazi actually goes out to kill black people, many are just superficial nazis who think it's "cool" to be one) are proof that these two ideologies are benign.

#1920357, FSTDT 19 Comments [3/6/2016 8:27:27 AM]
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Submitted By: Ivurm

Quote# 117273

Your argument makes no sense. I have no issue with Jews and I'm in fact very pro-Israel, something that can't be said of most progressives and other leftists.

But I have a problem with fifth columns.

Peaceful Muslims are essentially secular or non-practicing Muslims. That or they're playing the long game, it's really really hard to figure out who is a genuine moderate and who is just a liar because Islamic doctrine allows one to lie to non-believers for both defensive and offensive purposes. Many extremists appeared to be moderate... until they weren't including Nidal Hasan and some ex-CAIR officials (now convicted for funding terrorism). The ideology itself isn't and was never peaceful. Muslims are commanded by the Quran to conquer the world, or as much as of it possible anyway, and make everyone dhimmis.

Even if they are not terrorists, it doesn't mean they won't try to subvert the US by more stealthy means, like becoming politically active (i.e. using democracy to abolish it or at least weaken it bit by bit)

And even if they never ever succeed, (certainly not while people still have some common sense and guns, be thankful for conservatives who still value American culture) they will still cause untold damage just by trying.

No thanks. Let's stop importing un-American ideologies into the US. Freedom doesn't mean nihilistic tolerance.

Name one country on Earth that is majority Muslim and has a functional democracy with a good freedom record. Everywhere this ideology is mainstream there's oppression of women and unbelievers on an unprecedented scale, Turkey included believe it or not and the only reason it's more secular is because it was countered with a secular dictatorship 90 years ago. That influence is waning though.

#1920344 , FSTDT 24 Comments [3/6/2016 8:27:20 AM]
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Submitted By: Ivurm

Quote# 117271


I'm not trying to downplay HIV/AIDs in the slightest but do you think that if I gave someone my pneumonia they should be able to sue me? How about if they died from it, should I get charged pressed against me? How about MERs? I mean, sure HIV/AIDs required (if I'm not mistaken, at this point in time) lifetime medication usage but... it's just so odd to me that it's treated (criminally at least) with such extremes.

Should someone be able to sue me for giving it to them? Meh, people sue people over stupid shit all the time, so something like this sure... but to think that I should be jailed over it, somewhat extreme.

[ If you can control the spread of a disease (which is difficult with MERS and pnemonia which is why its not the same) but purposely dont do that, yes you should be prosecuted. ]

Gotta be honest, never understood claims like that. It's easy as hell to control the spread of diseases/germs/colds. Don't go out until you're over it? Wear a mask, equiv to a condom?


Alturic, MMO-Champion 3 Comments [3/6/2016 8:24:45 AM]
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Quote# 117268

It is extremely stupid to blame anyone company or organization for the pollution of our planet unless it's [Satan.inc}, when after all it mainly is" you" that is irresponsible. The main cause for all this geo-panic is (Self), (Godlessness), (disobedience) of God, plus the internal combustion engine, Your gas furnaces and gas water heaters not to exclude the other countless gas powered machines. There's one thing that all these death machines have in common "FIRE" this or any fire must be contained with-in it's self. What most people fail to understand is that it is their own sin that is causing this self genocide. God has given the people prosperity over the last several hundred years to overcome this death by fire syndrome and what have they done?. Wasted it on our selves. Scripture warns that the world will be destroyed by fire, This deadly force must be controlled. You are up against a powerful evil, Remember the real problem is "YOU". It's quite simple, eliminate self, live for God and most problems go away. The planet doesn't need fixed 'You do. Brought too you by (K.I.S.S) – keep it simple stupid. ps. If you so death you reap death, this is the law! Granted life can never be 100% but we can be 99.99999999, Make it so, and be a good Stuart.

David, Geoengineering Watch 9 Comments [3/6/2016 5:54:09 AM]
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Quote# 117261

[ (CBS) Larry Dunn Jr. made a chilling confession to cops last week after allegedly stabbing his girlfriend for telling him she was HIV-positive, WFAA-TV reported.

"She killed me, so I killed her."

Dunn, a 36-year-old Texas man, told police that he snapped during a visit to the Dallas apartment of his new girlfriend, 28-year-old Cicely Bolden, on Thursday afternoon, according to WFAA.Bolden apparently revealed her HIV status to Dunn after the couple had sex. (To clarify)Furious, Dunn grabbed a knife from the kitchen and stabbed Bolden to death ]

Ryotte:How is it worse for her to want human affection badly enough and possibly be scared/confused/rejected enough to sleep with him before telling him her HIV status than for him to KILL HER without knowing if he even contracted HIV and leave her body for her 7 and 8 year old kids?
[ Think positive - she could've infected much more people with HIV if she was left alive. The man did good to society by not allowing the disease to spread to more innocent and unuspecting victims ]
Innocent and unsuspecting victims...like the kids who walked in and found their mother dead? Yeah, I'm sure that did positive things for their role in society. DIdn't screw them up at all. Nope.


Themius:This topic is disgusting... people are bashing the dead woman who admits to someone she has HIV and everyone is like.. yeah that's cool I would do it too.If he did have HIV "oh no I may only live to be almost 70! i'm going to kill her!" like really? It's not a death sentence and the guy is so fucking dumb he said he killed him? You know how some transsexuals will have sex with people without telling them till after? This is like that. They feel rejected for who they are on a regular and thus some opt to not say anything until later when the person has more vested feelings in them so that maybe they won't leave them. Is it the right thing? No not necessarily, but is it worthy of death? Absolutely not.

What I want to know is why are we painting her as this horrible woman? I view her more as a victim of circumstance, not some person out to give hiv to everyone. If this was the case she wouldn't have told him and would have had sex with him much more. Sleeping with a transsexual will affect you negatively if they never told you and tell you later, or you find out by some other method. This is very much like that.

yosef1015 :How about this, put your self in her shoes, would you have told him? Your all probably thinking "hell ya i would" but think about it, if she tells him, no sex and he will most likely break up with her. So basically if she tells any guy that she has HIV she will go through life with no sex and no relationships unless she finds that one guy which will be really hard to find. Sex is a powerful thing. Sure I think it was wrong not to tell him but I dont blame her one bit

FathomFear: The fact of the matter is that protecting ourselves from STIs is each individual's responsibility. While I would no doubt be pissed if I slept with a guy who knowingly withheld his HIV+ status, the onus is ultimately on me either way. There's a certain amount of risk that goes along with sexual activity, and everyone needs to be willing to take it on and take appropriate measures. The only 100% safe alternative is abstinence.

lenonis : Up to 500,000 people die worldwide each year because of the flu. So if someone tells me they have the flu after they have sex with me, I can kill them right? Cause I might die from the exposure?

Ryotte,themius,fathomfear,lenonis, mmo-champion 8 Comments [3/6/2016 5:17:14 AM]
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Quote# 117260

In our society, have we reached a point where there is an Amazon.com for baby parts, including entire babies?

Rep. Diane Black, Think Progress 27 Comments [3/6/2016 5:16:19 AM]
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Submitted By: Doubting Thomas

Quote# 117256

Abortion survivors always state they are happy to be alive. Mothers decide to murder their own children because it's convenient for them. Abortion is only acceptable if it's for medical reasons which IS EXTREMELY RARE. Abortion because of rape? Why punish the child and not the perpetrator? Why are mothers only in control? Do fathers have no right? There's no equality, not even for the foetus. Pro-choicers have 0 shred of morality and are selfish as they only care what happens to them self.

Anonymous, Tumblr 11 Comments [3/6/2016 5:13:50 AM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom