Quote# 121877

The political committee Abolish Abortion Florida (AAFL) has launched a ballot initiative to amend the state's constitution to punish abortion as capital murder. Under the proposed amendment, anyone who performs or procures an abortion would be charged with first degree, pre-meditated murder. "Abortion" would include any abortifacient drug or device that can kill an embryo by preventing implantation, as well as the intentional destruction of unwanted IVF embryos. The amendment would define life as beginning at fertilization rather than "conception," and declares that "abortion deprives an innocent human being of the inalienable right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."

According to AAFL, the idea is not only to collect enough signatures to get the measure onto the 2018 ballot, but also to encourage legislators to begin putting forward legislation to abolish abortion instead of merely regulating it. Per AAFL: "The Supreme Court cannot make murder legal. Pro-life politicians have passed incremental regulations for decades, but it's time to abolish abortion by recognizing it for what it is – cold-blooded murder – and prosecuting it accordingly."

Abolish Abortion Florida, Christian News Wire 39 Comments [10/4/2016 2:30:02 AM]
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Quote# 121876

Regressive attitudes towards women - well what can I say I believe in more traditional gender roles, I think men and women are different, each better at different things. Men are not better than women, just different, and when feminists try to usurp masculine roles, it just doesn't work. There are always exceptions of course.

I'm 100% supportive of you as a matter of strategy to put up optics so that we don't alienate women but I've also given many examples of modern women who haven't done a good job of defending their countries interests' when put into high-powered political positions (if you read my other post), both on the West and the East.

I also believe there's a difference between optics and actually letting the likes of Dilma Rousseff, Tsai Ing Wen, Tomomi Inada, Park Geun Hye run their countries - they objectively have not done a good job. And again, I don't want to get into nature vs nurture, just a statistical argument.

hihifrds, Reddit 23 Comments [10/4/2016 2:29:55 AM]
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Quote# 121872

I am one of those votes for authoritarianism. Desperate times call for desperate measures, as is often said — and the window of opportunity for humanity to save our industrialized mechanized existence is closing due to narrow minds, and global warming. I’ve not been shy to air these views in the past, and while they are not popular, I believe they’re necessary in order to save Western Civilization itself. If that means we need to curtail the election rights for some, and even expunge some detrimental elements from the gene pool, then that’s what we should do. The survival of billions can be ensured by extinguishing a few million. I call that a bargain.

PaloAltoPixie, Daily Kos 40 Comments [10/4/2016 2:10:34 AM]
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Quote# 121871

We have to play to win. That’s what the other side is doing. They cheat; they lie; they steal. If we do not play to win, we will lose. If the Republicans will not respect the basic framework of democracy, if they will not play by the rules, then we cannot afford to respect them, either.

There is much more at stake here — not just the shape of our politics and our Republic, but the future of the whole planet. The greatest threat we face is that of climate change, and we can’t afford to let this country fall to a party that denies science. If the price of saving the planet is a few decades of dictatorship in one country, then so be it.

necturus, Daily Kos 23 Comments [10/4/2016 1:55:12 AM]
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Quote# 121870

Beni Rabinovich, a staff writer at the Yated Neeman newspaper, says publishing pictures of Clinton just isn’t done at his daily.

“If we write about Clinton and Trump, it’s much easier to run a picture of Trump,” Rabinovich says.

Yated Neeman's readers largely belong to a Jewish community known as Haredim, which means those who fear God. They represent about 11 percent of Israelis, and also live in the US and parts of Europe. They follow strict Jewish law, including rigid rules on modesty. Unmarried men and women avoid touching each other, women wear long shirts and skirts, and married women cover their own hair with hats, scarves or wigs.

Some ultra-Orthodox rabbis in modern Israel have interpreted modesty as a ban on publishing photos of women and girls.

“This is a known concept in the religious public,” Rabinovich says, and he quotes Psalms for its description of modesty. “All the glory of the King’s daughter is inwards.”

In Israel, there are four major daily papers serving the ultra-Orthodox. A reporter at the oldest one, Hamodia, says back in the 1970s when Golda Meir was Israel’s first female prime minister, they didn’t run photos of her, either. Women and girls are also absent from magazines, children’s books, and advertisements in religious neighborhoods.

Even though women are invisible in print, they are very much a part of the newsroom. Rabinovich says more than half of Yated Neeman’s journalists are women — although, to preserve their modesty, the newspaper publishes only the first initial of reporters’ first names.

So, what does an ultra-Orthodox newspaper do when its readers crave American election news, and one of the main candidates is a woman?

Rabinovich says, “there are a lot of approaches.”

One solution is getting creative with camera angles. In August, another Yated Neeman based in the US ran a photo showing Clinton at a campaign event, but with her face blocked by the podium. The photo of the candidate's arm was the first they had ever run of her person, several outlets reported.

Another answer is Photoshop. Rabinovich says his newspaper erases women from pictures. Other newspapers in Israel and the US have notoriously edited Clinton, Angela Merkel and other world leaders out of well-known photographs.

When the US Democratic candidate announced her running mate Tim Kaine, Yated Neeman ran a picture of a different Clinton — her husband Bill. Rabinovich says at the time, a correspondent for the secular Israeli paper Haaretz tweeted at him, “Hey, Yated Neeman, what will you do if Clinton wins — 4 years of Bill?”

“Without Bill or with Bill, we’ll manage,” Rabinovich tweeted back.

Within the Haredi community, there is some mix of opinion.

A few steps from Rabinovich’s house, I met Tova Yosfan and her daughter. Yosfan is a full-time nurse and a mother of seven. She says maybe it’s a stretch to put Bill Clinton’s picture in the paper instead of Hillary’s — but it’s not terrible.

“It doesn’t make me feel bad or take away my value as a woman that there aren’t pictures of other women in the newspapers,” she says.

At a wig store in the neighborhood, Dikla Cohen was helping a young couple pick out a wig for the wife. Cohen says she thinks newspapers have the right to choose what they publish. All the same, she says it wouldn’t be so bad to show a photo of Hillary Clinton.

“I don’t think there’s a problem to have her picture. It’s a character we all know. It’s not that we’re publishing half-naked models,” Cohen says.

Adina Bar-Shalom, the daughter of the late Chief Rabbi of Israel Ovadia Yosef, said she thinks the ban on Clinton’s picture is unnecessary. But she wouldn’t speak on tape about it — and she says she prefers to invest in other issues, like encouraging young Haredi men to gain skills for the workforce instead of studying religious texts.

Rabbi Yitzchok Frankfurter, editor of the American Orthodox Ami magazine, said that if Clinton is elected he might change his policy and print her photo — if the rabbis allow it. He said he worries about alienating the US government.

Rabinovich, however, says his newspaper isn’t even considering it.

“There has never been a picture of Hillary Clinton until today, and there never will be. Never,” he says. “Look for it and you won’t find it.”

Beni Rabinovich, PRI 24 Comments [10/3/2016 1:55:23 PM]
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Submitted By: Yossarian Lives

Quote# 121868

Why Hillary’s maternity leave proposal will crush our economy

Last week, I was sitting at my desk, working hard, when I came across Hillary Clinton’s latest campaign talking point. Her latest way to steal our freedoms and crush our businesses involved something near and dear to my heart – family and motherhood.

And I was blown away. I shook my head in awe of this stupidity.

Honestly, I’m not a political expert but I do have common sense. And motherhood, working hard, and small businesses are things that are key to my family and my life.

Hillary’s proposed plan guarantees 12 weeks of paid family and medical leave to care for a new child or seriously ill family member. Beyond this government mandate, it also mandates that the person taking leave get at least 2/3 of their current wages. It claims to impose no additional costs on small businesses. How is this even possible?

It’s going to “make the wealthy” pay “their fair share.” Whatever these words mean… which usually just means justifying socialist policies that harm hard workers.

Trump’s latest plan also would mandate six weeks of paid leave, but it has nothing on Hillary’s. I would love to see private businesses be able to voluntarily offer this tremendous, unheard of benefit, but never should we support government forcing this uneconomic, unrealistic boondoggle.

Does Hillary Clinton plan to enforce this latest mandate on every single business? Even the small businesses that truly make this country great and employ most of our people?

How does she plan on putting all of this in effect?

I think of my husband, who owns a construction company, and how much that would affect his business.

I think of the small doctor’s office I have been employed by for the last seven years, and I think of how much something like this would change us here.

My husband and I were talking, and figuring out the math and logistics behind this, and here is a basic way to look at Hillary’s proposed plan.

If this was in effect – and say I make approximately $60,000.00 (easiest math) and I had a baby. That is AT LEAST $9,200.00 and 12 weeks off of work that I would be “guaranteed” to have with Hillary’s plan.

CAN YOU IMAGINE?????!!!!! Where is this money going to be coming from? I know I will get bashed for this, but no one deserves that! I have been at my job for over seven years now, and I was thrilled to have even two weeks paid vacation time to use toward my month long “maternity” leave. Where is the common sense in any of these plans? Where is the connection to reality?

We should all be capitalists!! We need to get back to the basics. We need to work and not feel entitled to everything in life. We live in a world where everyone is looking for a crutch, where we compare everything to every other person and what they have, and trust me, I can be guilty of this at times too.

But when we keep up this “poor me” attitude and an attitude of entitlement, our country will go nowhere but down. And we have been going down fast! I look at what my kids will be growing up with, and what their society will be EXPECTING, and it really does leave me speechless.

All of these people yelling everything from “free birth control” to “free college.” Do they not realize that when things are guaranteed, the prices actually go up, and all of our taxes go up along with it in order to pay for it? Where is the work ethic? Where is the incentive to do it on your own?

This is just further proof that Hillary Clinton wants to continue to “spread the wealth” just like Obama’s main plan was – make us all EQUAL no matter what our work ethic really is.

This goes beyond maternity leave plans, or medical leave plans. It’s a bigger issue than all of that. We need to get back to the basics as a country and we as Americans need to realize not everything in life should be handed to you.

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Bristol Palin, Patheos 238 Comments [10/3/2016 7:26:02 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 121867

https://youtu.be/LD8kgAx8dl8
DEMOCRAT Has BECOME A SYNONYM FOR HOMOsexual
After being a life- long Democrat, since Carter ,I’ll be voting Republican for several reasons such as the disproportionate proliferation of HOMOSEXUAL TV programs and movies and the GUN GRAB ATTEMPTS by the Democratic Party. But , these next reasons really burn me up ! Recently, an openly HOMOSEXUAL teacher in EFLAND , N.C. recently read the book,” KING AND KING “, TO HIS 3RD GRADE CLASS. It’s the story of TWO HOMOSEXUAL PRINCES getting married and it shows them kissing. Also The Girl Scouts of America has been FORCED, by HOMOSEXUAL Groups, TO ACCEPT BOYS WHO IDENTIFY AS GIRLS.
There even pushing to have sex education taught in Kindergarten "Chicago Passes Sex-Ed for Kindergartners -
ABC News"
"Obama: Sex Ed for Kindergartners 'Is the Right Thing to Do'

Obama directive forces schools to allow transgender students to use bathrooms consistent with their gender identity !

In the state of California, heterosexual married couples can no longer be referred to as Husbands and Wives , Democrat Governor Jerry Brown has signed a bill into law that not only redefines marriage, but eliminates any reference to husband and wife, replacing each with the Generic Term Spouse !

People this is beyond the pale. The rampant proliferation of this kind of behavior is what we can expect if we continue to let the 2% TAIL OF THE HOMOSEXUAL POPULATION continue to WAG THE ENTIRE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. The REPUBLICAN PARTY is our last hope in maintaining some kind of MORAL COMPASS AND TRADITIONAL FAMILY VALUES that are the foundation of this Country . Voting in a another Democratic president will give them the opportunity to appoint 3-4 new Liberal Supreme Court Justices giving the Court a LIBERAL MAJORITY FOR GENERATIONS. Meaning we can expect more of this. The following is the Genesis of a Lawsuit filed in 2006 against the reading of the HOMOSEXUAL BOOK.”KING AND KING” TO 7 YEAR OLDS IN A CLASSROOM.

Funny how you can’t read a lesson from the bible in a classroom .but you can PROMOTE HOMOSEXUAL MARRIAGE TO 2ND AND 3RD GRADERS !!!!

In 2006 Robb and Robin Wirthlin and David and Tonia Parker filed a federal lawsuit against the school district of Eastbrook Elementary School, which their second graders attended in Lexington, Massachusetts. The Wirthlins' son's teacher had read King & King aloud to the class as part of an educational unit on weddings. Parents countered that the school's job was to teach about the world and that Massachusetts sanctioned same-sex marriage The plaintiffs claimed that using the book in school constituted sex education without parental notification, which would be a violation of their civil rights and state law. Robin Wirthlin appeared on CNN, saying
“ We felt like seven years old is not appropriate to introduce homosexual themes. My problem is that this issue of romantic attraction between two men is being presented to my seven-year-old as wonderful, and good and the way things should be. Let us know and let us excuse our child from the discussion. ”

HERE’S WHAT THE LIBERAL JUDGES RULED: IF THIS IS THE KIND OF RULINGS YOU WANT , ELECT ANOTHER DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT


The judge dismissed the lawsuit, saying "Diversity is a hallmark of our nation. The Wirthlins and the Parkers appealed the decision; a three-judge panel of the First Circuit Court of Appeals ruled unanimously in favor of the school. Judge Sandra Lynch, writing for the court, rejected the plaintiff's argument that their religious beliefs were being singled out as well as their argument that their First Amendment right to free exercise of religion was violated, writing, "There is no evidence of systemic indoctrination. There is no allegation that [the second-grader] was asked to affirm gay marriage. Requiring a student to read a particular book is generally not coercive of free exercise rights." The court also ruled that the parents' substantive due process rights were not violated, as these rights did not legally give them the degree of control they sought over the curriculum.

This same ruling could apply to reading a life lesson from the Bible !!!!!

TELL EVERYONE YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS !

Here's a small % of shows with Homosexual Characters or Content without doing an in depth search ,let's see we have the one that started it all Will and Grace, then STAR TREK BEYOND, Guilt , The Interestings , Sequestered , Ballers,Transparent, Mr. Robot, One Mississippi, Aquarius , True Detective ,Bosch, Grace & Frankie ,Red Oaks, Zoo ,CSI- New Orleans ,Six Feet Under , Complications ,Entourage , Angels in America ,Community , Girls, The L Word, The Walking Dead , The Following, Empire , Backstrom , Chicago Fire , The Royals ,The Big Bang Theory, Curb Your Enthusiasm, Bored to Death , The Cleveland Show, King of the Hill, South park, The Simpsons, Glee, The 100,Black Sails, Madame Secretary , Gotham , Kingdom, How to get Away With Murder, The Modern Family, Dominion, Tyrant, The Night Shift, It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia, Penny Dreadful, Nurse Jackie ,Star Crossed, The Fall , Peaky Blinders , Wentworth , Defiance, Hemlock Grove, Hannibal , The Bridge , Under The Dome ,Ray Donavan , Orphan Black, Banshee, Betrayal , House of Cards , Alpha House , Masters of Sex , Nashville, Da Vinci's Demons , Arrow, Sons of Anarchy ,Orange is the New Black, Sherlock ,Skins , Lip Service, How I met your Mother, Xena ,Prison Break , Homicide Life On The Streets , East Enders , Teen Wolf , Torchwood, Sex and the City , Bad Girls ,True Blood , Spartacus ,Game of Thrones , The Vampire Dairies , Shameless , Queer As Folk , The Wire ,The Office , Weeds ,Ripper Street , Schitt’s Creek , Eye Candy ,Transparent, The Flash ,Chasing Life ,Hit The Floor ,Dracula , Dates , The Originals ,A Place To Call Home , The Fosters , The Carrie Diaries , Undateable , and American Horror Story just to mention a few there are dozens more.

The HOMOsexualS are 2-5% of the population ,but 90% of the TV Shows have HOMOsexual content . Don't you think that's a bit disproportionate.

Don, Yahoo! Answers 33 Comments [10/3/2016 7:25:44 AM]
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Submitted By: TheReasonator

Quote# 121866

[What if someone—with the power to make it happen—came and said to you: “Vote for me, and I’ll make sure the Republicans never win another election. Vote for me, and there will be a firm boot placed on the neck of the Religious Right, on Wall Street, on the NRA—these groups will be crushed, and you will hear the proverbial lamentations of their women. Of course, after you vote for me, there won’t be any further elections—at least none that have any affect—but it won’t matter, because Our Side will have a permanent victory. We’ll be able to implement our wise and just policies, without any further interference from the other side. Society will flourish, and a new era of prosperity will be born! Racism and homophobia will be ended! The environment will be protected! The economy will serve everyone, not just the wealthy!”

Who, here, would take that bargain? A promised permanent progressive victory, at the cost of authoritarian government, one that need no longer consider the wishes of the voters—even if they no longer desire progressivism?

What of a promised, permanent progressive victory achieved by kneecapping the right wing—a maximum voting age, or legal disenfranchisement of conservative voters (by various means), or other ways of relegating our opposition to second-class citizenship? Would you take that bargain?

What if the persuader whispers in your ear that there MIGHT be some bloodshed, as ensuring the progressive victory requires (ahem) altering the country’s demographics, as there are still many voters of the wrong kind voting?]

Though, there is one authoritarian regime that none of us can object to: the laws and facts of nature. Such as what happens when you jump off a high place, or dump CO2 into the atmosphere until it gains net heat.

We can fix that problem voluntarily, or nature’s going to fix it for us, by running us close to extinction. Failure to fix it is flirting with a Holocaust that will be hundreds of times Hitler.

In the end, we have no choice about that.

For which reason, I would support authoritarian measures to deal with it now. Because the word “authoritarian” is meaningless when it’s about the laws and facts of nature.

G2geek, Daily Kos 22 Comments [10/3/2016 3:15:31 AM]
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Quote# 121865

(3 star review of Spyro: Enter the Dragonfly made by a verified purchaser)

if only I can pass first level it seems such fun game if only I could!? urg..or maybe I have I forgot seems I didn't though..kind of not entirely g rated either talking of sorcery or weird stuff a bit hope kids don't get corrupted into thinking false religion is good..kids should be encouraged to be Christian so all this wordly crap won't ruin them oh well its sad some things are made for kids..although its very grated and fun otherwise, but evil is subtle isn't it?!

jacki, Amazon 21 Comments [10/3/2016 3:15:19 AM]
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Submitted By: Salami

Quote# 121863

Inspired by recent conversations with Dota, I have decided to write a post related to the recent diplomatic fallout between the United States and India. I’m not going to bore you with the various details about the crisis (you can read about it here), but the childish behavior of India paints quite a picture of the fundamental chasm between Western and Asian values. Put simply, whites place a large emphasis on ethics and principles, whereas “saving face” and status are the primary concerns of Asians. Well, that and rice. Lame jokes aside, a look at the historical record and current events illustrates the West’s unique commitment to redressing wrongs.

Now, before I get bombarded with criticism, I will be the first to acknowledge that many white people and white imperial powers have committed terrible crimes. I won’t list any of the crimes in question, since certain multiculturalists enthusiastically do that job for me. However, as Dota once pointed out, which group is truly pure? Which group that isn’t reclusive or isolated from civilization can honestly say that they have no skeletons in their closet? Since all peoples have committed crimes, the best way to measure a people’s morality is their varying levels of contrition.

To illustrate these varying levels of contrition, I present to you the tale of two war criminals, Germany and Japan. Both committed horrific crimes during World War II and both have since become thriving and prosperous societies. Japan even flourished as the world’s second largest economy prior to being eclipsed by China a few years ago. I mention Japan’s prosperity to ward off any excuses related to poverty or underdevelopment.

It is no secret that Germany has been remarkably sensitive, almost to the point of obsequiousness, regarding the legacy of the Nazi holocaust. The most notable example of this sensitivity was West German chancellor Willy Brandt kneeling in front of a monument to the Warsaw ghetto uprising. Nor is such sensitivity confined to politicians, with numerous ordinary Germans expressing genuine remorse for their country’s actions. Denying the holocaust is a crime, with punishments ranging from fines to five years imprisonment.

How has similarly prosperous and democratic Japan addressed its own World War II legacy? In a nutshell, terribly. While Japan has at times apologized for its crimes, mainly during the 90s, most Japanese do not even believe that their ancestors did anything wrong. You don’t need to take my word for it. One only has to observe the blatantly disrespectful antics of Shinzo Abe, Toru Hashimoto, and various other Japanese public figures. Can one even imagine prominent German politicians such as Angela Merkel denying the Nazi holocaust or saying that it was simply the result of the tragedy of war? To ask the question is to answer it. But we shouldn’t be too harsh on Japan’s politicians, particularly Hashimoto. After all, he did say that “kind words” should be offered to the suffering comfort women. Let’s see, who else has employed the tactic of shedding crocodile tears while simultaneously excusing terrible crimes? Hey, reminds me of the “shoot and cry” schtick of so-called “liberal” Zionists. Not content to allow Asians to maintain a monopoly on saving face, Middle Easterners such as Turks have also played the thrilling game of blatant history denial.

With all of that in mind, India’s behavior is simply another example of the Eastern obsession with honor and saving face rearing its head. Even though Devyani Khobragade was clearly guilty of violating American law, Indians had to save face by throwing a temper tantrum and getting their diplomat back. Compare this to Italy extraditing its marines who shot an Indian fisherman they mistook for a pirate. Or Britain refusing to come to the defense of its citizens who were tortured by Dubai’s police for violating local drug laws. For such a supposedly oppressive and chauvinistic people, whites seem to expend great efforts to appease the sensibilities of various culturally primitive malcontents.

In conclusion, I want to remind everyone that Western values aren’t a simple matter of wearing suits and ties, utilizing modern technology, or even voting in elections. People such as the Indians, Japanese, Turks, Gulf Arabs, and Israeli Jews may mimic certain aspects of Western culture, throw a lot of money around, and even maintain functioning societies, but the values of such groups couldn’t be any more disparate. Just because it quacks like a duck doesn’t make it a duck. Despite my strong belief in Western values, I can’t help but think that dogmatically doing the right thing will become increasingly impractical. As the global white population continues to decline and as Asia continues to ascend, perhaps the time has come for whites to embrace their inner Hindu, as Dota would put it.

In the meantime, maybe India’s appalling behavior will convince white vegetarians to lose the broccoli and eat a bacon burger instead. One can only hope

Bay Area Guy, Occident invicta 16 Comments [10/2/2016 11:21:16 AM]
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Quote# 121862

you ever read bible scripture / or do you always judge things before reading. ? And how did fossils get to the top of such high mountains ?

Joe S, Ancient Origins.net 23 Comments [10/2/2016 8:19:56 AM]
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Submitted By: Karana

Quote# 121860

Right-wing activist Jesse Lee Peterson recently delivered a sermon in which he warned his congregation not to become intellectuals because intellectualism is responsible for foisting things like gay marriage upon America.

"I notice that the people who are really into the intellect are nutcases," Peterson said. "Absolute nutcases. Because of this intellectual thing taking over and the people rule us, we now have so-called same-sex marriage. That wouldn't happen if we weren't into the intellect. Common sense would dictate that is not going to happen and common sense wouldn't care what you thought about it because we would know that that's wrong."

Intellectuals are also responsible for the fact that "we now have drag queens running around in the military," Peterson added.

"Can you imagine jumping down in a foxhole, running from bin Laden, and there is a man in there with a dress and lipstick on? It would shock you. You would rather be out with bin Laden," Peterson stated, apparently so dedicated to being anti-intellectual that he's totally unaware that Osama bin Laden was killed in 2011.

People simply need to rely "on the intellect of God," he recommended, because human intellect is a tool of the devil, which is why "all intellectual people are insecure people ... because their father is weak, their father Satan is a deceiver."

Jesse Lee Peterson, Right Wing Watch 40 Comments [10/2/2016 3:58:50 AM]
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Submitted By: Ibuki Mioda

Quote# 121859

Every critic, every detractor, will have to bow down to President Trump. It’s everyone who’s ever doubted Donald, who ever disagreed, who ever challenged him. It is the ultimate revenge to become the most powerful man in the universe.

Omarosa, Mediaite 51 Comments [10/2/2016 3:58:25 AM]
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Submitted By: Ibuki Mioda

Quote# 121856

Be the Chad You Wish To See in the World

Marrying and having kids is one of the most arduous challenges our generation must face. Women are rushing to the edge of the cliff of their youth in droves, and falling to their ruin with a splatter at the bottom of their thirties, covered in bodily fluids, cellulite, and tattoos. Young men are seriously contemplating whether cartoons can be girlfriends, while the abandonment of monogamy and the tremendous risks of dating and marriage keep all but the top stratum of men, the Chads, from even chancing a relationship.

It is no wonder the word cuck hits such a nerve for so many. With divorce being initiated three times as often by women, resulting in her being awarded the children, and most of his income and his assets going towards her new family, the similarities are staggering. Even finding a marriageable woman comes with the high likelihood of her having a plethora of previous partners, men she bedded for passion and for fun, and having settled when she realized she needed to cash in her assets before it was too late.

Add to that the impending threat of demographic displacement, where White men have been granted the privilege of supporting other men’s families, as they are systematically bred out of existence, and it paints a picture of utter defeat to anyone who wishes to have a family of his own.

This is also why Chad receives so much bitterness and envy from the everyman. The highest caste of sexual fitness, Chad is a symbol of what most cannot have: access to the best women. Chad is stronger, cooler, more interesting, and most importantly, the only type of person impervious to many of the pitfalls of the sexual marketplace.

There have been varied approaches to this problem. One is for a man to go his own way, rejecting women altogether, and deciding to not play the game if the outcome is likely losing. The problem with that is he does not get to reproduce. Another approach is to look toward a certain uprising, hoping that sexual disenfranchisement reaches maximum capacity within one’s lifetime, with the multitudes of six-and-unders overhauling the status quo entirely, and sending women back in time, back to the kitchen, while raising monuments and statues which read: THE INSIDIOUS VAGINAL JEW - NEVER FORGET.

The problem, again, is that they will likely not get to reproduce. And even if they do, the minefield of modern marriage is a gamble that makes shooting up a sorority house look like an appealing way to leave the world in comparison. The only way to win, it seems, is to become Chad.

Chad is not an individual, but an archetype latent within all men, not any specific mould or make, but rather characterized by how victorious he is in winning the attention of women. He is the superman of the principal imperative in life, and our relationship to him is like a Rorschach test for how close one is to realizing his potential--anything from jealousy, to disdain, to ambition. He is the sexual Volksgeist of our generation, and much like the literary hero, represents the psychological and physical battle of the most rudimentary of life’s quests.

There is no anguish and resentment reserved for any type of man as there is to Chad. Few Wojaks cry bitterly when contemplating the disheveled genius or the legacy of the celibate inventor. As comforting as denial would be, having access to women of the highest quality and quantity is supremely important.

This means that in order to be a Chad, a man must be appealing to the nature of women. The same creatures who wear fishnets and lingerie in public holding signs that say, “STILL NOT ASKING FOR IT“ are the ones qualifying a man’s SMV, not other men. If the majority of women consider a man a 4 out of 10, a 4 he is. This is a pill so black it burns down its own neighbourhood for a new pair of Jordans.

What women want in a man is difficult to discern, as what women say they want and what women actually want are not just different but contradictory, but it can easily be defined as masculine, or in other words, useful to women.

To men, women are primarily sexual objects. An ideal woman is beautiful, fertile, sensual, and pleasant. This is for good reason, as the other qualities of a woman are generally unexceptional. She is physically weak, her intelligence tends towards the mean, and in most cases anything aside from giving birth, men can do better. A woman has little else to bring to the table on a reproductive level than her looks and fecundity. Men must fulfill a much greater range of qualifications in order to impress a woman.

To women, men are kind of like tools. This is why one of their most commonly used phrases in online dating in 'Looking For' is “can fix anything”. Women are social cultivators of the male ability to subvert the material world, and can rarely advance their social standing in life without riding on the back of a capable man. Women coast on the status and power of men, men do all the work, and women reward men with what they do as sex objects, mainly acquiesce, sometimes enthusiastically.

Chad is, in a way, a multi-purpose tool. He may be funny, goal-oriented, successful, wealthy, or even under 6’2. But he is some combination of traits that women find useful, and carry the potential to help propel her social standing in some way. The antithesis to Chad, then, is a man who is useless. Look to the behaviour of teenage girls for a demonstration of the uncivilized, uncensored reaction to a man who is seen as useless--revulsion, cruelty, or fear, sometimes even at a simple hello. To women, these men aren’t just undesirable people, they may not even be men, or even human.

An interesting study to highlight this point is "Rape From Afar: Men Exposing to Women and Children," in which an unwanted display from a man even in the form of flashing can "have a significant impact on their lives and can be interpreted...he could also rape or murder them." A lesser man even showing arousal in a woman’s general vicinity can make a woman perceive the threat of rape or death.

There are very few perks of being merely a mediocre man, either. He may get to marry and reproduce if he is lucky. He will spend the entire relationship being tested ruthlessly, on the off chance he will lose his grip and give her an excuse to find someone else who is more useful. Many women will not hesitate to climb onto the back of a great man, only to stand on his shoulders and climb higher once the opportunity arises. This is not a comforting idea, but such is the fate of the average man.

Feminist influence in government has proven nothing more than the fact that women will act like women even in circumstances where they are permitted to act like men. Social degeneration leading up to and caused by female-led policy, just like the dating scene, has become much like a harem, as big daddy government coerces resources from men and families and makes it rain on his loyal voter base.

Being an accomplished or honourable man by the standards of men has little real bearing on the realities of the current year’s sexual marketplace. We are in a dysgenic age in which the same demographic of people taking the feel-good flamethrower of uncontrolled third world immigration to Europe are the ones arbitrating who gets to reproduce. Men with valuable things to offer the next generation are being pushed out of the gene pool, or out of the lives of their own children. Counteracting this is an incredible feat of overcoming the odds, but the other options are even more grave.

Chad is the very embodiment of overcoming the odds. He may not have done so on purpose, or worked very hard for it, but he has succeeded in making women believe that he has value to offer them. Whether we like it or not, Chad is the hero of the story of our modern era. He wins. Any approach to this archetype outside of aspiration and the will to power is self-defeating. We are living in a dystopian sci-fi novel, and just like in any story, the jealous foil who attempts to murder the hero always loses.

Filippovna , therightstuff.biz 38 Comments [10/1/2016 6:38:37 PM]
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Submitted By: HEIL SATAN

Quote# 121855

Speak directly to these people. To the woman who has had the abortion. To the man who has paid for an abortion. To the health care worker who has profited off of tearing apart the bodies of the young and the consciences of their parents.

Speak clearly of the horror of judgement to come. Confirm what every accusing conscience already knows: clinic privacy laws cannot keep all this from being exposed at the tribunal of Christ. When the Light shines, there’s not enough darkness in which to hide and cringe.

But don’t stop there.

Proclaim just as openly that judgment has fallen on the quivering body of a crucified Jesus—accused by Satan, indicted by the Law, enveloped by the curse.

An abortion culture knows that hell exists, and they know judgment waits (Rom 2:14-16). Agree with them, but point them to the truth that God is not simply willing to forgive them. Show them how in Christ God is both just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus (Rom 3:26).

[...]

The consciences around us don’t believe what they’re telling themselves. They’re scared and accused. Shine the light in the eyes of their consciences. Prophetically. All for justice, legally and culturally, for the unborn. But don’t stop there.

After all, the spirit of murder doesn’t start or end in the abortion clinic (Matt. 5:21, 15:19; Jn. 8:44; Acts 9:1; Rom. 1:29; Jn. 3:15). And the blood of Christ has cleansed the consciences of rebels like all of us.

Russell Moore, erlc.com 13 Comments [10/1/2016 6:38:20 PM]
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Submitted By: AJ Williams

Quote# 121854

My First Encounter with a Real Demon

I am a Christian. Being that align myself with Jesus Christ, I now know that I have power over all kinds of demonic spirits and other evil entities. But this was not always the case.

I struggled earlier in my Christian walk mostly because I was trapped in a state of ignorance. It was and still is difficult to find a church that will even honestly touch the subject of demons and how they gain access into our lives. And it's rarer still to find churches that make deliverance and the casting out of demons a priority. Except for the Catholic Church, not many within the Christian community want to touch this sort of subject matter.

Which is precisely why I decided to do so myself.

The night I gave my life to Jesus I had the most incredible experience. I was only 13 years old, but something inside of me shifted or changed. As I was walking around in my father's back yard under the evening light, five "men" who looked like guardian warriors suddenly appeared around me, dressed in some type of battle armor and shining like they had moonlight coming from their skin. My childhood fear of the dark left instantly and never returned. I somehow instinctively knew these 'men' were good and there to protect me.

My eyes became open to the spirit realm; and from that time onward I've had the ability to occasionally see or detect the presence of angels, and also to detect the presence of evil, unclean or demonic spirits. I can also detect people's thoughts and intentions at times. It's not something I can necessarily control: it just sort of happens when I'm in certain situations.

My very first encounter with a demon took place shortly after that. I want to say this before sharing what happened: actual demonic encounters are rare. What most people think is an encounter with a demon is really an encounter with an evil spirit, or with an unclean spirit. These are entirely different entities than a demonic spirit.

Demons (or devils as they are sometimes called) are old, ancient spirits that come from a different era in time than our own. They are meaner, darker and more powerful than other evil spirits are. When you're in the presence of a demon you'll know it, because you can feel the hair on the back of your neck stand up. You can feel its hatred, venom and evilness directed to you by its stare.

Even within the demonic realm there are different types of demons. They're not all the same. Jesus spoke for instance about 'this kind' of demon in Matthew 17:21. If there's a 'this kind' of demon, it stands to reason that there are other kinds as well. The experience I first had wasn't with an ordinary evil or an unclean spirit. I came face to face with an actual demonic entity.

One evening while I was asleep I had a dream-vision. When these happen they can be so powerful that I don't know if I'm asleep or awake. That's how real the experience is. I saw myself standing alone in a room that was shaped very squarely. It had four walls and from above a spotlight . Outside of the circle of light that I was stood in, the rest of the room was completely dark. But I had an eerie feeling that I wasn't alone.

As I scanned the darker areas of the room, my eyes eventually landed on what looked like two glowing red lights staring back at me. To my stark terror I realized they were eyes belonging to what I can only describe as a dark, hairy unearthly creature that resembled a large blackish wolf.

The best description I can offer is something like this:


This is an image of an actual demon from Chinese culture called a yao guai. (Yao guai are a type of demon according to Chinese mythology that seek immortality by abducting and devouring a holy man.)

The moment I recognized it, this 'thing' ran from its corner of the room at full speed and attacked me. Standing on its hind legs like a man, it bit down on my forearm as I used it for a shield against this monster's teeth. I was absolutely terrified beyond measure. The fear was too real and palpable to describe in proper words. This demonic creature towered over me, and I quickly realized it was overpowering me. As I began to fall to the floor - where certain doom awaited me - from the core of my belly without a single involvement of my mind I shouted at the top of my lungs: "IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST!"

As I did, supernatural strength welled up on the inside of me. Suddenly I had power to take that demonic being by its mouth, and I wrenched its lower jaw out of socket. It fell to the floor at my feet and did a most amazing thing: it shrank in size until it was no bigger than a small puppy, and it began shaking, crying and begging profusely for me to not harm it any further. It suddenly looked so pitiful and powerless to me, like a small wet dog, that I actually started feeling sorry for it. The name of Jesus Christ totally emasculated the thing!

As I came out of this dream-like experience, I was made aware of the power and might that stands behind the name of Jesus Christ. Demons are absolutely terrified of that Name and the power that it represents.

"When the seventy-two disciples returned, they joyfully reported to him, "Lord, even the demons obey us when we use your name!" Luke 10:17

I've had multiple experiences with evil spiritual beings since that time - some that I'll probably share in the future, and some that I probably won't. In each encounter the Name and power of Jesus Christ proved superior to the power of darkness at work. It's my sincere hope that as you read this testimony and the ebooks I've provided for you; you too will become familiar with the power in the name of Jesus Christ. Truly there is no greater name carrying that level of power behind it on the planet!

"Now there were some itinerant Jewish exorcists who tried to invoke the name of Jesus Christ over those with evil spirits. They would say 'I bind you by Jesus, whom Paul proclaims.' Seven sons of Sceva, a Jewish chief priest, were doing this. Eventually, one of the evil spirits answered them, 'Jesus I know, and I know about Paul, but you, who are you?' Then the man with the evil spirit jumped on them and overpowered them all. The attack was so violent that they ran out the house, naked and wounded. This became known to all the Jews and Greeks living in Ephesus, and fear came over all of them. So the name of the Lord Jesus was held in high honor." Acts 19:13-17

There is POWER in the Name of Jesus!

We're living at a time as believers where we can no longer afford to ignore the reality of the evil side of the spiritual realm. Demons, evil spirits, jinn, ghosts, wicked spirits and other unclean types of spirit are REAL - whether we want them to be or not. Those things exist and are responsible for not only creating massive amounts of death and destruction in the world - they're also responsible for much of the trouble in your own life too. Jesus not only taught His disciples about demons; He showed them how to effectively deal with them. Now it's time for YOU to learn!

Mack Major, Eden Decoded 38 Comments [10/1/2016 6:37:54 PM]
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Quote# 121852

If a woman becomes pregnant because she was raped, she may not have an abortion. If she did have an abortion, that would be first degree murder, and she would be sent to Hell for it. Exodus 20:13, in the original Hebrew, says “Thou shalt not murder,” and whosoever commits murder must be put to death. “Murder” includes the murder of unborn babies. “He that smiteth a man, so that he die, shall be surely put to death” (Exodus 21:12). What shall happen to all murderers? “The fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and MURDERERS, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death” (Revelation 21:8). And people are liars that say that unborn babies are not people and are not alive. If these babies are not alive, then how could they murder them? And why should they murder them if they’re not alive?

Those who abort babies, those who perform abortions, and those who become suicide bombers are all MURDERERS. You ought to repent now because judgment is coming sooner than you think.

In Exodus 21:22-25, we see the penalty for an accidental abortion. “If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman’s husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give LIFE FOR LIFE, Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, Burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.” A baby growing in its mother’s womb is a life.

In Matthew 22:31-32, JESUS said, “Have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by GOD, saying, I am the GOD of Abraham, and the GOD of Isaac, and the GOD of Jacob? GOD is not the GOD of the dead, but of the LIVING.” Again, a baby growing in its mother’s womb is LIVING and growing, and GOD is its GOD.

Idolaters are well known for murdering their own children, up to this very day. Jeremiah 32:35 states, “And they built the high places of Baal, which are in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire [murder/abortion] unto Molech; which I commanded them not, neither came it into MY mind, that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin.”

[...]

The actor Tony Curtis was asked what it was like kissing Marilyn Monroe. As beautiful as most men think she was, Tony Curtis stated, “It was like kissing Hitler!” I’ve heard that Marilyn Monroe had a couple of abortions, that she murdered a couple of babies. This is probably why Curtis, a Jew, remembering the death camps of World War II, where six million innocent Jews were put to death by Hitler, thought it was like kissing Hitler when he kissed Marilyn Monroe in a movie. This is the way I feel about the women of today that believe in abortion, murder! How could any man want to kiss one of them?

Tony Alamo, Tony Alamo Christian Ministries 22 Comments [10/1/2016 6:37:49 PM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 121851


(CNN) — A prominent Jordanian writer facing charges for sharing a "blasphemous" anti-ISIS cartoon that outraged Muslim groups was fatally shot in Amman on Sunday, state news agency Petra reported.

Nahed Hattar, a member of the country's Christian minority, was shot three times outside a courthouse in the capital where charges against him were being heard.
Hattar, a political commentator and columnist, was remanded in custody last month after sharing a controversial cartoon on Facebook that sparked anger from Muslim groups.

Amman Governor Khaled Abu Zeid ordered that the writer be held for the "blasphemous" Facebook post, Petra reported.

Hattar was charged with the crimes of insulting religion, and inciting "sectarian strife and racism," for having posted the image, which was deemed as "abusive to the divine entity," Petra reported at the time.


unnamed murderer, cnn 14 Comments [10/1/2016 6:37:44 PM]
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Submitted By: Mister Spak

Quote# 121850

RECENTLY when I was on a flight to Dubai I felt lonely because I was sitting among a group of women who were wearing black abayas at the start of the journey.

Few minutes after the flight took off from the Kingdom, things changed around me in a frightening way, raising surprises and questions. The black gowns disappeared and were replaced by glittering fashions and the plane was filled with smell of best perfumes.

Some of these Saudi women were wearing transparent and tight dresses that even foreign women would be shy to wear. This not only raised my amazement but also my anger thinking about how these women represent Saudi Arabia outside their country.

I closed my eyes and prayed that no other flights originating from Saudi Arabia would have the same sickening scenes and that people living in foreign countries, which host Saudi tourists, should not believe this is the hallmark of the conservative Saudi society.

I took my laptop from the bag and wrote down my viewpoints on the situation and tried to find out reasons behind this amazing phenomenon. I wrote the following points:

I believe that this is, first of all, the result of suppression suffered by Saudi women over the past several decades that have impacted their concepts of freedom, giving them the courage to react violently.

Growing cracks in family relationship, especially among members of rich families, is another reason. Their men rarely meet with their women and girls or travel with them and they put the responsibility of taking care of their children on mothers, maids and family drivers.

Excess use of social media networks is another major reason as most Saudi men and women meet with their relatives and friends in a virtual world and not in real. They would not care about what has happened to their family members or close relatives because they are in a different world altogether.

Saudi women show excessive interest in themselves and their appearance, their progress and prosperity. They document their words, movements, dresses and cosmetics, what they eat and drink as well as their worries and happiness and send them to their friends and relatives whom they interact with only through pictures and video clips.

We should realize that what our children learn from the social media is more dangerous than contagious diseases as the new media destroys their values and pollutes their minds. They watch flagrant sex and violence scenes without the presence of any guide or supervisor.

Many homes are broken from inside due to the presence of more than one wife. Children get the feeling that they are mere hypothetical figures. They will be happy for just having food, housing, educational facilities, clothing, travel and enjoyment.

They don’t have an opportunity to see and follow the best model, which is no more that balanced, intelligent and decent person, who upholds high moral and humanitarian values. Most models in modern world are figures which look good only in their appearance. They live inside artificial and fake shells which can be sold and purchased and can be polished by the media. These models cheat us with their excellent appearance, which would have nothing to do with the reality.

By writing this article, my intention is not to attack our society. I know that the majority of our people are not like them. But I wanted to send a message to our parents, especially those who show leniency in shouldering their responsibility. We should also understand that family relations are broken.

Shaher al-Nahari, Saudi Gazette 17 Comments [10/1/2016 6:34:06 PM]
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Submitted By: Yossarian Lives

Quote# 121849

@PPFA I'd likely have a girlfriend by now if you hadn't murdered so much of my generation.

Domic Huber, Twitter 17 Comments [10/1/2016 6:33:49 PM]
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Submitted By: Ivurm

Quote# 121846

you talking about that pretty little blonde thing as a part of the russian propaganda stint? yah sure , she looks tough on that little crimea admin. but probably moans like a sluuut when getting screwed by putin's underlings. crimea is not even a full fledged pivotal russian city like stalingrad/st petersburg . plus i was referring to NATIONAL cabinets. DEFENSE # 1 . who da fukkkk is she? can blondie run the WAR DEPARTMENT?

Eetime, Reddit 10 Comments [10/1/2016 6:33:39 PM]
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Quote# 121844

No. It was a call for some honest reflection. Being a minority sucks, "I was hoping that you’d reflect on the fact that you have it much better here in the US than minorities in other parts of the world. Whites genuinely make an attempt to accommodate minority grievances and incorporate said grievances into mainstream discourse. This simply does not happen in the non western world (ie the rest of the planet).

All the alt right wants is that the people who created the US and its institutions get to maintain their cultural hegemony. This is certainly the case everywhere else in the world and unlike South Asia and Middle East, minorities won’t get their throats cut here. You are not barred from education and economic opportunities like the dalits of India and neither does the state interfere in your way of life like China with the Uighurs.

Anyhow, once the Indians and Chinese come to power in the US after the decline of whites, do you think they’ll give 2 shits about black grievance mongering? The Asians and Hispanics will simply laugh at you when you try and peddle your historical injustice narrative to them. Are you naive enough to think that these people will eschew their tribal loyalties and join some rainbow people of colour coalition with blacks? Hardly. For your own sake, you’d best pray that whites continue to remain the dominant majority in the US.

Dota, Abagond 12 Comments [10/1/2016 6:33:31 PM]
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Quote# 121841

Atheists as the word say do not believe that there is a God but at the same time they march towards Him-Her.

Strange and bizarre isn't it?
How is possible?
Simple.
God is not a toll man with long hairs and a beard as described by Christianity or is a man.
God is a spiritual entity but let us come to the point.
Why everybody march towards Him-Her?
God is perfection and everybody march towards perfection.
Even those who commit suicide do that in order to put an end to their problems and find peace of mind.
That of course doesn't work but the reason is there anyway.
Why would anyone try to improve themselves?
Why anyone try to find peace of mind and happiness all the time?
Why anyone would think that all his-her efforts wouldn't lead to perfection and peace of mind?
The reason is that there is no other way to go.
It is impossible to escape the situation in which we are.
Many people are smart and take little time to understand that there is no other way around to follow while other people take ages and ages to get it Shake Fist but at the end everybody get it.


(I am in no way seeking perfection. I will be lucky to break even!)


Let us see if you can pass the test.

Do you make an effort to breathe?
Do you like to go to bed when you are tired?
Do you put food in your mouth when you are hungry?
Do you feel like having sex sometime?

If you say yes yes yes yes then you seek the perfection.
Surviving is all about keeping your head above the water and that means trying to go ahead.
You may not know where you are going to.
That is irrelevant because something within tell you to continue.
Sooner or later you will know who is that entity within. :lightbulb:

Little Rik, AtheistForums.org 20 Comments [10/1/2016 6:28:23 PM]
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Submitted By: Stimbo

Quote# 121838

Regarding my thought over teenage girls being taken to retirement homes, regular readers may recall that I’ve expressed the same sentiment several times in the past, and I explicitly stated that in an ideal humane world, 16 year old girls would gladly visit retirement homes to give the old codgers blowjobs as part of community minded service. I also state in this very article that such a world is likely impossible given female sexual psychology. Not even a deranged femi-hag with poor reading skills could concievably believe that I am ‘encouraging’ teachers to take their underage pupils to retirement homes to have illegal sex with the residents.

The Anti-Feminist, theantifeminist.com 30 Comments [10/1/2016 6:21:15 PM]
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Submitted By: Xadoy

Quote# 121833

[Links in original - Bolding mine]

Supreme Ashkenazi haredi rabbinic leader Rabbi Aharon Leib Steinman wrote a letter for participants at last night’s emergency conference on secular studies for women. The conference was held at the invitation of the Councils of Torah Sages of the two factions – one hasidic, one not – that make up the so-called mainstream Ashkenazi haredi United Torah Judaism Party (UTJ) that is a part of Israel’s ruling coalition.

According to a report in Kikar HaShabbat, Steinman came out strongly against secular academic studies for women and insisted that the only education haredi girls and women are allowed to have must come from UTJ’s Beth Jacob girls school system. There can be no exceptions, and higher academic studies in places like Bar Illan University or haredi programs at other colleges are absolutely forbidden.

Rabbi Hezekiyahu Mishkovsky of the Orchot Torah yeshiva told the conference a story about a haredi scholar who told Steinman his daughter wanted to get an academic degree.

“Why?” Steinman asked.

“Because she wants to earn more money to support her family,” the man said. (Many haredi husbands don’t work and are instead full time yeshiva students well into middle age, and wives are often haredi families’ main breadwinner.)

"I have a better idea how to make a fortune,” Steinman replied. “Steal.”

“The rosh yeshiva [Steinman] equates academic training with theft?" the man asked.

"It's worse [than theft]! What you steal can be returned, you can repent and return the money, but these things [that you hear, see and read in non-haredi academic institutions] are worse [than theft] because once you are exposed to them, you can’t ever get them out of your soul.”

The rabbis at the emergency conference went on to insist that academic degrees for women “cause incest and idolatry.”

“The gedolim [top rabbis] of previous generations barely allowed women to leave their home to earn a living, but if there is a concern that leaving the home will easily damage the spirituality of the home, it is not permitted to allow [women to do so, and that is the case with academic studies,]” the #2 non-hasidic Ashkenazi haredi rabbinic leader Rabbi Chaim Kanievsky reportedly told the conference. He implored attendees to ensure their students establish homes full of Torah.

The hasidic Vizhnitzer Rebbe also addressed the conference, which was attended by the heads of haredi girls schools from across the country.

Following their rabbis' guidance, the conference participants agreed to ban all academic studies by, in part, refusing to recognize degrees granted by outside institutions like Bar Illan University and various colleges with haredi programs. Women with degrees from those institutions will not be able to use them to qualify for a job or to gain a promotion.

Rabbi Aharon Leib Steinman and other rabbis participating to the Councils of Torah Sages conference, Failed Messiah 21 Comments [10/1/2016 3:38:43 AM]
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Submitted By: JeanP