Quote# 110549

The gay agenda was never just about acceptance, love, and tolerance. It was mostly about suppressing beliefs contrary to homosexuality, and more specifically, suppressing God Himself.

While they may convince some people and even some lawmakers, God will never be suppressed. In fact, He is the final authority no matter what man thinks or does. There is no escaping His judgement. It will come due the moment after each person's last breath.

All In, Christian News Network 12 Comments [7/8/2015 3:19:54 AM]
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Quote# 110548

But the very acts of detection, observation, measurement, analysis and modelling are all supernatural processes because they all involve conscious human awareness for which there is no natural definition.

If we insist on forcing our entire concept of reality into things which can only be defined by the natural observed forces of nature we are in effect defining ourselves out of existence, because our own conscious awareness of reality is not (and never will be) defined by these natural observed forces.

Alan Burns, Religion and Ethics 16 Comments [7/8/2015 3:06:30 AM]
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Submitted By: NearlySane

Quote# 110547

The people of China are more open to the ideas of Christ, than the people of Japan; and it appears that this is because Japanese society is more evil and cruel than the society of China overall

Ted Shoebat, shoebat.com 20 Comments [7/8/2015 3:06:01 AM]
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Quote# 110546

In this world, we struggle to forgive and we struggle to love. God understands this and He has compassion on us. Maybe you’ve been horrifically abused by someone and just the sound of that person’s name makes you feel like you’re going to throw up. God understands the effect being ravaged has on us. He understands how pain and suffering can warp us on very deep levels. He has great compassion on the victims of abusers. But He also loves the abusers, and here is where most of us part ways with God and feel justified in hating those who have hurt us. Here is where we feel justified in viewing other souls as the sum of their sins and hating both with equal fervor. The molester becomes completely defined by his acts of molestation. Any act of kindness the man might have done before or after abusing someone is tossed aside as irrelevant and we talk as though his entire life, person, and character can be summarized by a few sordid activities. We do the same with the murderer, the pedophile, the terrorist, and the rapist. Humans become defined by their worst moments and then we refuse to ever give them a chance at redemption. Once a molester, always a molester. It’s all fine and well for you to repent and reform and finally make something of yourself, but once someone gets his name on that public list of sex offenders, that’s all we see him as: an offender. A walking threat. A scourge on the face of the earth.

Be honest: if you had the choice of being a molester or his victim, which would you choose? The answer is obvious: we’d all rather be the victims of abusers than try to deal with the internal torment that they are lugging around. When you cry about the terrible suffering you endured, people come out of the woodwork to express their sympathy. But when your memories of degrading another human being have you so full of self-loathing that you finally decide to blow your brains out, people get in line to hand you guns and bullets. There is no sympathy for the molester—no one wants to hear about the horrors he went through that caused him to become as warped as he is.

Anna Diehl, The Pursuit of God 13 Comments [7/8/2015 3:05:51 AM]
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Quote# 110545

The truth is that every human on the planet is equipped with the core perversity needed to get off on degrading others. We’re all flaunting our dark natures every day by the things we choose to create and the things we choose to feast on. While you enjoy hours of beating up others in a video game, or you cheer for the man who is beating another man to a bloody pulp on television, or you delight in the movie that is filled with graphic carnage, or you enjoy reading a book about man’s cruelty to man, you put yourself in an entirely different camp than the terrorist who beats and bombs his enemies in real life. Yet are you so different? You’re both feeding the same cravings and you’re both focusing on the same sick subject matter. The only difference is that your methods are currently considered socially acceptable while his are not.

Anna Diehl, The Pursuit of God 14 Comments [7/8/2015 3:05:33 AM]
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Quote# 110544

Since the creation of man, many species have come and gone on this planet. It isn’t because of evolution or evil man, it’s part of God’s plan. He likes variety—a fact we will quickly learn if we just look around a bit. God has been intentionally driving certain animals into extinction and coming up with new ones long before we ever published their sad little faces on endangered species calendars. God isn’t up in Heaven stressing over the fact that the giant panda is running short on bamboo. He made the bear a picky eater on purpose. We have observed many species adapting and expanding their diets in times of shortages, while other species will choose starvation over new flavors. Who gives animals all their smarts and instincts in the first place? God does. Who teaches one carnivore to range far and wide for food while another (like the African lion) will starve to death before it crosses the boundaries of its territory? God. Who is ultimately controlling the temperature of this planet? God, not greenhouse gases. The ice up north is thinning out because He wants it to. The polar bear is crashing through because He wants him to. This isn’t some incredible tragedy that we should all weep over, this is God running His creation in a seasonal, cyclical pattern of life and death.

Anna Diehl, The Pursuit of God 11 Comments [7/8/2015 3:05:29 AM]
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Quote# 110543

Love the sinner, hate the sin" is a Buddhist belief, not a Christian one. You clearly interprete the message as being that but it isn't.

They are NOT born that way, since God did NOT create homosexuals. The sin of homosexuality is from a part of the sinful nature, that we have. Everyone has a sinful nature. Most people have a sin of their own preference. Though some may share the same struggle with a particular sin, not everyone struggles with the same sin obviously.

Had God created them as such, He would not have called them brute beasts nor would He have called homosexuality an abomination. And YES they do CHOOSE it. Just as a pedophile CHOOSES to sin the way they do and a rapist CHOOSES to sin the way they do. You wouldn't claim God created the pedophile or rapist though, would you? Can you tell me why you don't believe God created the pedophile and rapist AND at the same time believe that He created the homosexual?

IF you DO believe that God created the pedophile and rapist, then there are other issues.


Rosanna miller, breathecast . 16 Comments [7/8/2015 3:05:25 AM]
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Submitted By: zomb

Quote# 110542

Liberals are Roger Taney and we are Dred Scott: The Christian man has no rights that the liberal man is bound to respect.

Bryan Fischer, Twitter 14 Comments [7/8/2015 3:04:09 AM]
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Submitted By: AJ Williams

Quote# 110537

ting ting ting ting ting ting!
Analogy time
Theists: Cat is dog.
Atheists: I don't completely agree or i disagree.
Me: lol cat is cat,cat aian't dog lmao.
Theists: Oh. *runs to the room crying*
Me: ._.
Atheists: Haha look at theist noobs,lets get outta here. [this is the appropriate response :P]
Atheists: Haha look at theist noobs,they are so wrong,lets not get outta here and stay here. [this is the inappropriate response :P in which case atheists have the burden of proof -because theists are no longer making a claim,so you're just sittin there rejecting a claim that isn't even made *derp* so you're the one making a claim in that case]

[i specifically used "noobs" because you are a 5 year old and i'm told 5 year olds play COD]

Better Analogy time
Theism is the mother.
She gave birth to her sons atheism,deism,agnosticism,gnosticism,polytheism,ditheism,pantheism,etc.(gawd lady xD)
Atheists: mommy can't reproduce ; _ ; i'm adopted.
Theists: no lol we aer her cheldrn.
Atheists: no you fucking idiot!i checked.. - she's a man!


So Atheists are saying that Theism is a man and theism couldn't have taken Atheists out of her vagina(because obviously she doesn't have one).
If Theism is indeed a man then Atheists cease to exist(just like how the "Mother" cease to exist)because a man can't give birth xD [ps: adoption is a big NO NO in the analogy]

pool, AtheistForums.org 65 Comments [7/7/2015 3:21:37 AM]
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Submitted By: Stimbo

Quote# 110536

I am one of those people who think that abortions should be illegal even in the case of life-saving ones. It is tragic that such situations happen, and I will not speak ill of people who made a different call, but the terms of the issue do not change: one person does not have the right to cause the death of another, innocent person.

Not even to save his or her own life. There might be some leeway if the mother's death would be very likely to cause the child's death, I am not sure about that; but that's about it.

There is a reason why Gianna Beretta Molla is a Saint...

Carciofus, TV Tropes 34 Comments [7/7/2015 3:21:24 AM]
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Quote# 110535

(On a story about a terminally ill woman suing California for the right to die with lethal medications rather than a long painful drawn-out death)

Interesting dilemma. Will she continue to ignore the Word of God on healing and only consider man-made medicine as her only option for healing or allow man-made medicine to kill her body more quickly. If the cancer is terminal and no reasonable medical treatment is going to cure her, then why go through the torture of extreme treatments which only promise a scant chance of success? Watching someone die over a longer period of time under such cancer treatments is extremely painful to undergo and to watch. Religious medicine has no Scriptural standing in denying her request.

It's unfortunate that healing isn't taught from the Word of God as it should be taught. Instead, people have been brainwashed into believing that God uses doctors and medicine to heal. The latter is a lie. God gave us healing through Faith in the Covenant wrought by the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus (the) Christ. Faith in God's Word brings miraculous healing. However, the vast majority of those professing to be Christian put their trust in the natural actions of people through medicine and surgical procedures, rather than the Power of God.

FoJC_Forever, Christian News Network 38 Comments [7/7/2015 3:21:16 AM]
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Quote# 110528

False doctrine promotes the irrelevancy of Doctrine which is from the Holy Spirit. The world is full of false religion, just as in the days of Noah, and just as in the days when Jesus walked the earth.

The End of this Age is at hand.

Judgement is coming.

FoJC_Forever, Christian News Network 28 Comments [7/7/2015 3:19:11 AM]
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Quote# 110524

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MODERN FEMINISM

Sometimes you can’t help but think there must have been divine intervention. The same day I pen my article about why Adelaide women are the best in Australia, I pick up the front page of the paper to see outrage that 500 young Adelaide women have had naked photos of themselves plastered all over an American website.

You may have noticed I didn’t sing the praises of Adelaide women aged 18—25 in my article. That was for good reason. Here is a passage that unfortunately didn’t pass the final ROK edit:

One word of warning: you had better strike while the iron is hot. With feminism destroying women at a truly scary rate all over the world, this could very well be the last generation of desirable Adelaide women. On recent visits I have noticed a disturbing rise in the number of girls aged 18-25 with ugly tattoos and piercings. Obviously, it goes without saying they are addicted to their smartphones. It breaks my heart because many of these girls would be really attractive if they embraced their natural beauty, put on a nice dress, and put down that damn phone.

I truly believe western millennial girls are nightmares, even in sleepy little Adelaide. What we are seeing with so called ”revenge porn” is an example of the disturbing but inevitable consequences of the first generation of women who, brainwashed by feminist propaganda, truly believe they can do no wrong, and that there are no consequences for their actions. Throw in their smart phone addictions and toxic need for constant social media validation and you have a recipe for disaster.

At this rate, we are not too far from a world where every second man’s girlfriend’s or wife’s tits will be plastered all over the net, her slutiness on display for the whole world to see. This is supposed to be your loving life partner, the mother of your children? How can any man these girls meet in the future possibly take them seriously?
A tech-savvy generation? Millennial girls’ behaviour indicates otherwise

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Young women are so addicted to social media they can’t see the negative effects it has on their lives

The millennial girl’s smartphone obsession is of course the root of their misery, but it’s their lack of intelligence and social awareness that is truly astounding. How can they not get it? Once a photo is put on the internet, it is there forever. Media reporting on this story was incredibly irresponsible. These photos certainly were not “stolen”, as journalists claimed. Whoever got these photos didn’t break into these girls houses, nor were they Peeping Toms who had secretly photographed them without their knowledge or consent. In fact, they had been willingly uploaded to social media or sent directly to the latest bad boy to make their vaginas tingle. From that point onwards, they were totally at the mercy of that bad boy as to what happened next. Some empowerment! Now admittedly putting them on the web for the whole world to see is a pretty low act, but they don’t call them bad boys for nothing. You can bet your bottom dollar these are the guys who are far more likely to receive and distribute “sexts” than the nice guys forever languishing in the friend zone.

Despite all this, I feel sorry for these girls. They have grown up in age where being a slut is glorified and where their peers give as little thought to posting revealing selfies online or sending “sexts” as they do to taking a piss. Unlike women from previous generations, at no point in their lives have they been pulled aside and told in no uncertain terms that being easy reflects poorly on themselves and is likely to be a one way ticket to disaster. It’s not politically correct, you see, and many have been denied a strong father figure by their money-hungry mom who wanted freedom, a divorce and custody. This is why millennial girls are not only narcissistic and slutty, but completely oblivious to how broken they have become, and why they are hopelessly addicted to the crack pipe of Instagram, Facebook and Twitter. All they need to do to break free of this toxic cycle is log off, but unplugging from the vortex would be unthinkable. Next thing you know, BAM, there they are spreading their legs on the net for the whole world to see for the rest of time.
Millennial girls are trapped in a social media vortex

Woman using cell phone on bed

Young women love selfies more than life itself

“Revenge porn” wouldn’t exist if young women weren’t so obsessed with selfies. Sadly, millennial girls are so infatuated with internet “fame” everything else is merely background music. To demonstrate how warped their perspectives are, consider this. What did this girl do when she found out she was on the site? She re-uploaded a photo from the site of her in the shower to her Facebook! Yep, she tried to get even more attention! All this does is draw even more people to check out the website she is supposedly so outraged about. Out of curiosity I looked up her Facebook page, and sure enough, it is selfie after selfie. She is quite hot, but obviously so desperate for fame I can’t help but wonder if she is secretly thrilled she now has a chance to step out of the shadows of her well-known football playing brothers. As the shocking revelation of Dubai Porta Potties showed, millennial women want fame, no matter what the price is.
Women have been betrayed by feminism

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Feminist woofer Clementine Ford.. all for female empowerment, but for God’s sake don’t expect women to exercise self-responsibility

Predictably, critics have directed all their energy into attacking the faceless American creators of this site and furiously denouncing “victim blaming”, rather than spreading the word to young women everywhere that uploading raunchy photos to social media and sexting guys is risky behaviour with potentially very serious consequences. Bottom line: If girls don’t send these pics out, they can’t end up on a site like this. That would put these “shady creeps” out of business permanently. But in the twisted minds of feminists, prevention is never better than cure: don’t teach women to do X, teach men not to do Y. They have always played the victim, abrogated the concept of self-responsibility and denied the reality that women’s actions have potential consequences, and now girls everywhere who were brainwashed to believe exactly that are paying the price.
Is there any hope for young women?

Teens-social-media

Scenes like this will be familiar to us all.. what does it take for young women to put down their phones?

The prospect of having a daughter one day seriously scares the hell out of me. What chance do you have of raising a decent human being, when you are fighting a reckless pro-slut cultural tsunami?

There was a time when the family unit provided the guidance young women needed to develop important values. Unfortunately, with The Decline accelerating this is often impossible. For most girls, any semblance of fatherhood authority has long gone. If they really care for the welfare of girls, mothers and genuinely concerned women need to fill this void and educate them that acting like a slut must be avoided, for this behaviour places them at risk of ending up on sites like this, forever. Is that something they really want? They might also want to consider how driving a strong man out of their daughter’s life might have devastating consequences.
Conclusion

Like so many other modern social problems, feminism is definitely to blame for “revenge porn”. This warped ideology has always irresponsibly promoted the delusional idea that women have all the same rights as men, but without responsibilities or consequences for their actions. They were the ones who encouraged a life of reckless hedonism and narcissism for young women, with no thought for their futures. They were the ones who spun the gross lie that being pumped and dumped by men who couldn’t care less about them is “empowering.” These 500 Adelaide women are just a drop in the ocean of the many girls who are being sacrificed daily at the altar of “female empowerment.” This is what happens when it is politically incorrect to state the obvious: that acting like a slut is dangerous for a woman’s honour, credibility and future happiness.

True Player, Return of Kings 22 Comments [7/7/2015 3:17:18 AM]
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Quote# 110520

Someone has to put their foot down and come up with a new system that will establish a different set of social norms to where women will no longer expect to be able to get away with what they're doing today. When that happens, those laws won't be needed anymore. Its about shaping society into something else, and someone has to get the ball rolling. If someone can find a different way to accomplish the same end goal, that's fine as well. But one thing is clear, feminism needs to go the way of the dinosaur.

CountryBoy88, Stormfront.com 21 Comments [7/7/2015 3:11:30 AM]
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Submitted By: HEIL SATAN

Quote# 110519

Nonsense. Equality between the genders is a fantasy. They are NOT equal but rather necessary complements. And to pretend that staying home with children and playing games and the like is 'oppression' ... Go and do some coal mining ... Or Quarry Work. Oppression my Pink Backside.

johnsmithy, Stormfront.com 21 Comments [7/7/2015 3:11:25 AM]
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Submitted By: HEIL SATAN

Quote# 110517

[about a pregnant 10 year rold rape victim]


This story makes me very sad. And also brings back a lot of bad memories for me of my past. I am pro-life. I believe that abortion kills a life. I have a DD who is 9 and if something like this happened to her. I would kill the person that did it to her before killing the baby.

I have a girl friend that had an abortion at an early age in life she has so many problems now, and when you talk to her it always goes back to she wished she would not have killed her baby.

I never had an abortion but I have had 3 MC all of these where after my DD (who is 9 now) was born. She understood each MC she understood that the babies died. She took them very hard and her grades even dropped in school. So I know my DD would understand that an abortion was killing the baby.

I would have my DD to the dr weekly for her health and the babies health. I would pull her out of school and home school her. And then I would push the idea of adoption for her. If she wanted to keep the baby then I would raise that baby with her, and she could be the big sister.

This story makes me very sad. NO ONE SHOULD EVER GO THOUGH THIS. But a life is a life. If you want to kill someone, KILL THE MAN THAT DID THIS TO HER.


[sooo prolife]

rismom5, Babycenter 30 Comments [7/7/2015 3:10:54 AM]
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Quote# 110516

[[Happiness is a subjective thing, which in turn, means that something can be a blessing to one person and not to another, therefore, a blessing is subjective. Some children contribute to wellbeing and welfare and some do not, therefore, not every child is a blessing.]]


A blessing from God does not change in its nature according to our individually subjective reactions. Our small minds, influenced by fallen human nature, often prevent us from seeing the full goodness of God's gifts. We don't know what is best for us; we can't see the big picture; we cannot see in this life the infinite preciousness of a single human soul so loved by God that He would sacrifice Himself in its place.

I can't imagine living life thinking that only some people are blessings. I'm sure you are not saying that a person's worth is based on how happy he makes his parents when he arrives in the world... And if you agree with me there, it might be helpful to remember that we do not exist merely for ourselves. We are called to give ourselves fully to God and others in self-sacrificial love, no matter how difficult or painful the situation may be. This life is merely a journey, by which we strive toward Heaven through love and sacrifice. Yes, even if a woman loses her earthly life by bearing forth a precious new person, she has gained such a blessing---the opportunity to share in God's creation of an infinitely loved soul. And she will not regret this as she goes into the arms of her infinitely wise and loving God.


[[Certainly not. I am not talking about a person's worth at all. I am just saying that if someone is not open to life, their child is not viewed as a blessing. That being said, it can still turn into a blessing. Or it could be born a blessing and turn into not being a blessing. But that is using the definition of blessing as something that results in happiness and wellbeing. If you are going to use the definition of blessing as "God made it" then sure, everyone is a blessing. Seems like a dumb definition though. Loses its connotation as a positive thing when you say all children are blessings. Was Hitler a blessing?]]




Yes, Hitler was a blessing when God created him. He wasn't born already ordering Jews' murders; he was just as innocent and beautiful of a baby as any other person. We don't know what good effects he may have had on people before he chose a terrible path, and we don't know what was deep in his heart at the moment of death. We do know that God did not love Hitler any less than He loves the rest of us, and He still created him even though He foresaw the terrible sins Hitler would commit.

Every person is valuable to God; therefore, every person conceived is a blessing. And yes, everything God creates is a blessing, because it is good (according to God in Genesis). That definition cannot make the term "blessing" lose its positive connotation, because it is based on the fact that what God creates is good. Sin brings evil into the world, but it does not change our fundamental goodness as human beings loved by God. Hence Jesus instructs us to love our enemies and those who do us wrong, because they are still valuable and worthy of love. Likewise, a conceived child who may inadvertently cause one's life to become more difficult is still very good, valuable, loved by God, and thus a blessing.

kristleful, catholic forums 11 Comments [7/7/2015 3:10:40 AM]
Fundie Index: 5

Quote# 110515

Lets discuss feminism, more importantly - how to crush it.

I hear this brought up a lot, but I rarely hear people discuss what needs to be done about this degenerate vice that plagues our people today. There isn't much we can do within the current framework of our societies, so that of course needs to change before anything can be done, so this is about "What then?".

Also, let me make something clear, this isn't just about feminism, but also about the emasculation of males, meaning betas who don't take charge which I believe is a contributing factor. I believe the emasculation of males and prevalence of feminism are congruent with each other. Meaning one cannot exist without the other. Which is exactly why the jews are pushing both ferociously.

What ultimately needs to be done, is alpha males need to take charge and start paving the way toward a more healthy set of social norms that revolve around having and maintaining a healthy family unit. Equal rights for females as far as voting and employment is concerned is contrary to a healthy family unit, and here is why:

-The more females in the workforce, the more competition in the workforce which means less for the men with families who work. Females will find it incredibly difficult to get by on their own which will of course encourage them to find a male. This is why male preference in hiring is pro healthy family unit.

-If there is to be voting, the man of the house is to represent the family, including his wife rather than females being allowed to vote. This promotes male dominance in society, and lays the groundwork for a new set of social norms that will take root in a generation or 2 that will ultimately crush feminism once and for all.

CountryBoy88, Stormfront.com 21 Comments [7/7/2015 3:04:03 AM]
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Submitted By: HEIL SATAN

Quote# 110514

Happy 4th in liberal-run Chicago: 7 dead, 38 wounded over the weekend so far.

Bryan Fischer, Twitter 18 Comments [7/7/2015 3:03:13 AM]
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Submitted By: AJ Williams

Quote# 110513

Over thirty-three years ago God called me out of the darkness of homosexuality into His marvelous light.

Thirty-three years ago I sat on a couch in the home of some Virginia Beach school teachers turning down an invitation to attend a wedding in Vermont. Even in my lost state I knew deep down inside of me that marriage was holy and it was not a place two men or two women should go.

Yet, here we are thirty-three years later with men marrying men and women marrying women being the law of the land. Although I saw it coming, I still want to vomit every time I am reminded of this abomination.

Did I say abomination? Absolutely! If the Creator calls it abomination, then I have a right, I have a commitment to Him to call it the same.

On Sunday after the abominable ruling by the five unelected judges in black robes, I intentionally listened to three different preachers to see how they handled this new law redefining the Holy God’s definition of marriage.

My observation resulted in one thought: “no wonder this Judeo-Christian nation has fallen into the hands of the Sodomites!”

Not one of the three preachers called this moment in time abominable.

As a matter of fact, all three played the “politically correct” card and tiptoed about the matter. Two served their congregation the “sweet message of everything is ok, God is on the throne.” And the third led a “pep rally”, “Jesus is coming back any day now to get us.” I wanted to barf at all three.

Too many American Christians have thrown one half of the Holy Word of God away; the Old Testament. They operate in a mind set of “come to Jesus and all will be well. Eat, drink and be merry because tomorrow we are flying out of here.”

There is no mention of judgment. There is no mention of sin. There is no mention of repentance.

What I should have seen in the three sanctuaries were people on their knees and faces weeping before the Lord and repenting of the sins of the Church and calling on God to deliver us from this abominable evil that He has allowed to come upon our nation.

May the Remnant hide in the shadow of the Almighty and not be afraid to call abominable what is abominable.

May the judgment of God fall upon the wicked who have devoured the nation and may the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob be glorified upon the earth again.

Linda Wall, BarbWire 18 Comments [7/7/2015 3:03:04 AM]
Fundie Index: 6
Submitted By: AJ Williams

Quote# 110510

[[ Would you be willing to strap a woman to a table and force her to give birth (the woman is suicidal and tries to deliberately miscarry at all costs) if it would save the life of an unborn child?]]

If someone is a danger to others, it is legal to admit them to a mental hospital against their will to protect others from said person and because it is assumed that this person is driven to this by an emotional crisis and/or mental illness. The person is then kept in a room in the closed section of a mental hospital. These rooms contain not much but a window through which the patient can be supervised and a bed on which one the person can be fixated if they are acting out violently/autoaggressively.
In a world where abortion was treated like “common” murder this kind of treatment would also apply to women who imply that they want to have a miscarriage. A mother that wants to miscarry shouldn’t be encouraged to do so, just like a person who want to commit homicide shouldn’t be encouraged to do so. Death is not something a happy, healthy human being choses for themselves or anyone else as long as there are options. A stay in a psychiatric ward is not a punishment (even if it may seem, and at that moment very much feel like it) - it is supposed to help the patient and their surroundings get better and find a non-destructive way to deal with issues. So: Yes. We should help women and their unborn children and if this is the final option to do so, then so be it.
How do I know? How dare I make such statements? Well, when I was 16 I spent a week on suicide watch after attempting to end my own life. That stay was the beginning of me changing my view on life and sent me on a journey to self-acceptance, self-love and being “pro life” in the most literal sense of the word.

(On a sidenote: One can still argue about bodily autonomy if it is only the patients own life that’s in danger, however my stance is clear when it comes to one person endangering the life of another one.)

ferriminera, tumblr 11 Comments [7/7/2015 3:02:20 AM]
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Quote# 110507

GREECE WILL BRING FORTH THE BEAST OF REVELATIONS

Christians are getting excited t the current situation in Greece.
It is the precursor to the EU becoming the famous Beast in Revelations
with 7 heads and 10 horns and 10 crowns on top of the horns.

when the EU was established in Rome in 1957 with 7 countries
the Christians waited until they increased to 10 so prophecy can be fulfilled.
typically the prophecy failed, just in the same way as the failed second coming , and the number of states in the EU increased to 28.

but Christians knew the prophecy will eventually be fulfilled, just as the second coming will eventually happen.

the current situation in Greece could be IT!!
This is the precursor they have been waiting for.

Greece will begin the unravelling and the EU will fall apart.
The present 28 countries will revert to just 10.
Thus becoming the infamous 10 horns with 10 crowns.

Go Greece!!!!! vote NO!!!! OXI!!

CYRIL, Give Me Gossip 19 Comments [7/7/2015 3:01:25 AM]
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Quote# 110506

The huge fine was intended to financially destroy the business and it's owners. FAIL. The next outrageous step might be for the liberal court to reconsider the fine and instead impose the death penalty on the bakery owners, totally disregarding all applicable laws. The $135,000 fine was just as much a cruel and unusual punishment as a death sentence. The only difference is the method used to carry out the cruel punishment.

There IS another way around this -- only allow sharia muslims to own bakeries. The huge sign on the front door would clearly say: NO SHIRT, NO SHOES, NO LGBT, NO CHRISTIANS, NO JEWS. The local politicians won't see anything wrong with this policy because it aligns itself with the owner's religious beliefs.

GLBT customers asking for a wedding cake to be designed, baked, decorated, delivered and set-up at the reception for their guests (baking is only part of the service required) would be charged with a religious hate crime and jailed for even asking the muslims to do such a sacrilegious thing. Occasionally, potential GLBT customers might have their heads handed to them. Cake toppers?

and there's more...

A very large young man and his obviously very pregnant girlfriend barge into one of those urgent medical care service businesses. He goes room to room searching, grabs a doctor who happens to be a Christian and pro-life supporter, and drags him into what appears to be a treatment/surgical room.

In a loud, threatening voice the boyfriend demands that the doctor immediately perform a medical service -- an abortion (legal in this imaginary state). The doctor hesitates. The young man grabs a small piece of medical equipment, hits the doctor a few times knocking him to the floor and stands back waiting for his demand to be met.

Should the Christian, pro-life doctor be forced to comply? The abortion is simply another type of medical service that he performs every day, but the abortion demand violates his Christian principles. With our crazy, mixed up legal system, the doctor might receive a stiffer sentence for not performing the abortion than will the boyfriend for assaulting him. The law is nothing but surprises today.

No, the LGBT couple did not have the advantage of holding a threatening piece of equipment over the baker's head, but they had something even more dangerous -- the fist of the entire legal system in the State of Oregon. The family held strong to their Christian beliefs. Pray for the family and support them financially as God directs.

The Bride MUST stick together. It's now US vs. everyone else.

Homesick777, Rapture Ready 33 Comments [7/6/2015 3:21:31 AM]
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I read somewhere when Sony purchased Columbia Pictures, there was some backdoor deal that despite owning the company, they weren't really running it. Sony Pictures Studios is still run by the same white/jewish monopoly in place.



Now with the influx of Chinese mainland money, I guarantee they'll be jockeying to get their own studio as well, but I'm betting the Jews will still pull some sort of goy swindle to get their money. In exchange they'll just promote more AF/WM movies while the Chinese investors pat themselves on the back thinking they've become Hollywood bigwigs!


Shinn, model minority 15 Comments [7/6/2015 3:18:10 AM]
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“The uncontested absurdities of today are the accepted slogans of tomorrow. They come to be accepted by degrees, by precedent, by implication, by erosion, by default, by dint of constant pressure on one side and constant retreat on the other—until the day when they are suddenly declared to be the country’s official ideology.”

-Ayn Rand

The public debut of “Caitlyn” Jenner represents a watershed moment for American culture. Though most have not realized it, Jenner’s coming out party constitutes a significant “trial balloon” on the part of the progressive left and the media. It is an attempt to cash in on years of carefully managed stories on transgender “discrimination,” sympathetic portrayals of transgender characters in entertainment, and the generally successful campaign of the gay rights movement and social justice activists.

The goal is simple: normalize transgenderism to such an extent that any criticism of the concept or its practitioners will not be tolerated.

They must not be allowed to succeed. Whether the silent majority of Americans realize it or not, the transgender issue represents the last best opportunity to turn the tide in the culture wars. Make no mistake: the progressives are winning. Twenty years ago a person could openly criticize homosexuality. Today, thanks to the Supreme Court, people who do not enthusiastically endorse gay marriage are branded as bigots, disqualified from high-profile business positions, and generally dismissed as ignorant hicks whose views are outside of the scope of acceptable thought.

Media outlets have already taken sides and are branding people as being “transphobic” for not accepting the idea that Bruce Jenner is now a female. It is now “bigoted” to refer to Bruce as a “he.” Even so much as joking about Jenner is verboten. The media is rallying around him, protecting him, in spite of the fact that his refusal to get sex reassignment surgery, his sexual preference for women, and his recently having killed someone in a car accident all make him a very poor candidate as the face of transgenderism.

Nevertheless, they have made him the poster boy, hoping that everyday TV watchers won’t sweat the details and that the popularity of the Kardashians will keep him relevant. The next steps include some Will and Grace style sitcom to make transgenders seem more hip and fun, adoption by the Democratic Party as the next great civil rights issue, and finally a sustained campaign of legal and private ideological bullying until transgender acceptance is the new normal.


"The Line In The Sand"

Why must we draw the line at transgenderism? I argue that legitimization of transgenderism would constitute a cultural sea change. It would be the first time the cultural fascists had succeeded in enforcing genuine doublethink. Leftist ideology regarding transgenderism not only contradicts existing progressive doctrines (feminism), but is also literally false. You are being ordered to believe in a fairy tale—the idea that a dog can transform into a cat if it just wishes for it hard enough—and this is where the danger lies.

To be clear, I do not argue that we need to persecute or hate transgenders: people have the right to choose to play dress up and freely associate with others who indulge their delusions. What we need to protect is our right to disapprove of their behavior and reject their “science.” We must dig our heels in and fight. One is reminded of Picard’s words on the Borg in First Contact:

“We’ve made too many compromises already, too many retreats. They invade our space and we fall back. They assimilate entire worlds and we fall back. Not again! The line must be drawn here! This far, no farther!”: might as well be GamerGate’s slogan.

Of course, in the film Jean-Luc eventually agrees with Lily, though this does not refute his point about the Borg. He is right when he says that repeated compromise and surrender will not work. As in any war, the longer good men wait to fight back, the more difficult it is to overcome a metastasizing and emboldened evil.

The progressives have been encouraged by traditional Americans’ reluctance to fight back due to a mixture of indifference, moral cowardice, and bemusement. They are strengthened by the tendency of mainstream society to not take them seriously, to say “Who cares about Bruce Jenner and the reality TV sideshow!”, and to think that the goodwill and tolerance extended toward progressives will be returned.

This last point is crucial when we consider the history of previous civil rights causes. Earlier progressive campaigns pertaining to issues such as women’s lib, gay rights, and miscegenation had decent libertarian justifications and did not seek to impose much on society save tolerance of alternative life choices. (Social conservatives would likely argue that there were other negative consequences.)

Transgenderism, by contrast, imposes a great deal on American society. It requires us to revisit all questions of sex segregation, everywhere from schools to sports leagues to bathrooms. And note that this is all demanded based on the softer concept, “gender,” as transgenders have all but stopped using the term “transsexual.” They understand that with current technology, sex is immutable.

Since gender is supposedly just about feelings instead of biology, transgender logic would allow any man to claim he is a woman and waltz into a women’s locker room. There is no requirement that he pass for a female, nor is there a requirement that his “feeling” be permanent.


"The Real Danger"

The biggest problem with the transgender agenda is that it erodes our right to our own minds and to our perceptions of reality. A man is not a woman merely because he believes he is one, yet the progressives would have us believe so on pain of social ostracism, loss of employment, and discrimination lawsuits. If we give progressives the right to redefine reality, then we are no better off than Winston in 1984 when he was tortured for refusing to say that 2 and 2 equal 5 (or to continue the Star Trek references, Picard when he was tortured by the Cardassians for refusing to pretend there were five lights. And isn’t it weird that “Cardassian” sounds like “Kardashian?”)

What argument could there possibly be against polygamy, pedophilia, zoophilia, or any range of (currently) unacceptable behaviors? If the legal criteria for a thing’s identity is mere belief on the part of the subject, why shouldn’t a child be allowed to have a romantic relationship with an adult if he believes himself to be an adult as well?

Children are too young to make that choice you say? Then why are there transgender children? Surely you can’t argue that a small child ought to be able to take hormones and change their gender (a decision that will have a massive impact on the rest of their lives), yet cannot consent to sex. If feelings are good enough in one case, then why not the other?

We are not only legitimizing a subculture that will invite massive legal headache and mischief upon our society, we are also establishing a criteria for said legitimacy that is so patently irrational and dangerous as to ensure an endless queue of additional subcultures will come forward seeking the same affirmation from society.

It is perhaps ironic that it is the traditionalists and conservatives that are arguing that there is more to being a woman than copying stereotypical gender norms and looking the part. To say that Bruce Jenner is a woman after a bit of surgery and makeup is degrading to the idea of womanhood. The case of Rachel Dolezal shows that black people are not especially tolerant of whites identifying as black merely because they “feel” they are. Yet there is no strong argument against transracialism if we accept transgenderism.

Given the example of Dolezal, women should be just as insulted at the pretense of someone like Bruce Jenner. Lacking the biology and differing treatment from society that comes from actually being a woman, his claim that he “has always felt like a woman” is absurd on its face. What he really feels is a compulsive desire to play dress up: to make manifest a fetishized ideal of femininity brought about by his own psychological insecurities and a “grass is always greener” presumption about life as a woman.

Transgender people suffer from a pervasive mental illness, and as a result they deserve our sympathy. There is no reason to be violent or mean toward them. Still, we should not be expected to affirm their neuroses anymore than we should affirm the beliefs of a schizophrenic who believes himself to be an alien.

The time for compromise is over. Do not apologize for “misgendering” them, do not feel bad for calling him “Bruce,” do not be afraid to make jokes about them (they say worse things about whites and Christians), and do not ever apologize for rejecting their unscientific hogwash. This noisy .001% of the population is sick and should not be allowed to dictate to the rest of us. When they tell you to move, plant yourself like a tree by the river of truth and tell them: no. You move.

Adam Hobbes, Reaxxion 34 Comments [7/6/2015 3:18:00 AM]
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