Quote# 108981

Stop calling God cruel for handling evil people. No one was innocent even the children. Now for the children that does mean that they are judge after life. If He let the children live then who going to take care of them? They definitely don't won't someone who killed their parents to raise them, so it is better for them to be dead. What if the children was the enemy of the Hebrews? It is stupid to let them live. Some of them will grow up, and get revenge, on those who rightfully kill their evil parents. It better for the children to be put to death so they don't have to deal the Hebrew people. YHWH has every right to do so. Don't like too bad then. YHWH doesn't care what you don't like or like what he does, or weather you disagree or agree on how He handle things.

Sweetride, FSTDT comments 72 Comments [5/28/2015 3:19:06 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 108980

Now as nice as this theory sounds, it’s not based on reality. Prior to His arrest, trial, and crucifixion, Jesus was anything but submissive. He was constantly slandering the preachers and teachers of His day. He was constantly going out of His way to start fights and scandalize the Jews. He intentionally provoked Old Covenant believers into wanting to kill Him. Peter knows this better than most, since he was up close to Jesus for three years. So it’s utterly absurd for Peter to make Jesus out like some passive lay down who never made waves. If we really want to imitate Jesus, we’d march into church on Sunday mornings and start railing about what idiots our preachers are and what an idolatrous yuck the Church is today. This is what Jesus did in His day. He ripped on the highly respected preachers of His time and He was constantly taking potshots at Yahweh’s chosen people. He’d march into synagogues and the Temple in Jerusalem and start firing off offensive zingers. He’d seek out the company of unclean people, touch them, then refuse to go present the sacrifices that Yahweh required to fix His unclean state. Jesus was an obnoxious, alpha personality who had no use for diplomacy and basic social manners. So when Peter says “be like Christ”, he is really telling women to “be like the Christ I just invented, because if you act like the real Christ, obviously that’s going to create problems.”

To try and define Jesus by how He behaved during His crucifixion ordeal is ridiculous. We can’t just ignore three years of obnoxious scene-making and say, “Look, Jesus didn’t talk back when they were whipping Him. What a docile Fellow He was.” Yet this is what Peter and many Christians today try to do. For some reason we have this burning need to tone Jesus down and completely misrepresent Him as “sweet, meek and mild.” What’s sweet, meek and mild about Jesus showcasing Himself as ultra-awesome in the book of Revelation? What’s humble about Jesus creating scenes of all of Heaven constantly falling down before Him and shouting out endless praise about how magnificent He is? Humility is for humans, not Gods. Our Creators are not humble, and They are certainly not mild. They can be very sweet when They want to be, but They can also rain down terror and wrath. We need to call Peter out on the game he’s playing here because it’s one that leads us into all kinds of messes. When we make up lies about who Christ really is and how He behaves, we start trying to imitate a God who doesn’t exist.

Anna Diehl, The Pursuit of God 18 Comments [5/28/2015 3:18:56 AM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

Quote# 108979

Tammy Crawford: You know what the best thing is about those who choose to call themselves gay? They can't breed! Not naturally anyhow! So some day their filthy vileness shall be cleansed completely from the earth so let's praise the Lord for that!

Tammy Crawford, National Organization for Marriage, Facebook Community 28 Comments [5/28/2015 3:17:33 AM]
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Quote# 108978

The Arabs are very moral people in comparison to Americans. Arab women wear clothes appropriately. American women who mock and express disdain for the respectable modesty of Arab women (1st Timothy 2:9); are the filthy pigs who dress whorishly, behave whorishly, and abort their child whorishly. Whores make babies that they don't want, because they just wanted to have a good time without considering the consequences of their irresponsible actions. Whereas Psalm 127:3 teaches that the fruit of a mother's womb is a gift from God; a filthy whore considers a child a burden, an “it,” that will mess upon “her life.” Perhaps you say, “You shouldn't label a woman as a whore for aborting her baby.” Ok, would you rather me just call her a cold-blooded murderer? How about an idolater that places her own will over God's will? How about just a sick-minded freak who thinks killing human life is acceptable? Don't you dare criticize Adolf Hitler!

For every extremist Arab who straps a bomb on and takes out a dozen people in a local business; there are 5,000 dead babies by a Jewish-funded Planned Parenthood clinic. Who's kidding who? All I'm saying is shut up about how bad the Muslims are!

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 31 Comments [5/28/2015 3:17:21 AM]
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Quote# 108976

When rape first became a crime, we lived in a different world. Among the middle and upper echelons of society, women expected to be virgins at marriage and to be respectable in public thereafter.

These expectations arose from common knowledge which has been forgotten. Without the bonding that sexual inexperience provided, couples lacked the trust that came with shared exclusive experience. Their marriages also became unions of convenience, not based on the sacred but in business-like negotiations for mutual satisfaction on a day-to-day basis.

Not surprisingly when we abandoned this outlook our fortunes fell as far as marriage is concerned. First infidelity swept through marriages, then divorce became common, and now people simply avoid marriage in the first place to avoid being penalized to subsidize someone else after the inevitable divorce. Marriage is like extended dating at this point.

In saner times, rape ruined a woman. If it occurred before marriage, it made her unlikely to become married; if it happened afterwards, people saw her as being ejected from the throes of marital contentment.

...

In our new age however rape no longer carries this weight. No woman is ruined by having sex with one more man, since they commonly have sex with six of them on average that they will admit, but we know that people lie on surveys and the actual number may be ten times higher, some without even knowing his name or spending more than a dozen minutes in his company. At this point, it is farce and injustice to keep rape classified as a crime of violence.

Rather, we should view rape as a form of theft. We know that the woman intended to have sex with someone because she does it on a regular basis; what happened instead was that she had sex with the wrong man. It occurred not by force, since we no longer require that to prosecute a man for rape, but by mistake. She said no and he heard yes, or she said yes and meant no, or (as is most common) both had to get so drunk to engage in the animalistic act that neither knew what the other said and in the haze of regret the next day, she decided it was rape.

But no matter: In all of these cases, the only crime was theft of sexual services. She could have sold that sexual encounter for anywhere from a few dollars to a few thousand. Perhaps it was wrong that he took her as he did, but we have worse physical affronts in car crashes and when people crash their shopping carts into us at Wal-mart. As with an auto accident, we could write him a ticket and slap a heft fine on him, then move on.

It is not as if anything permanent were taken from that woman. She is already accustomed to having sex with strangers. She does not expect to be virginal for marriage, but fears being virginal past age thirteen, as socially that means failure. The only real crime here is that the wrong man ended up having sex with her, or that he did not pay. Our legal system offers many ways to rectify this. If he is ticketed, she can sue in small claims court much as she would if he took her paid parking space for a month.

But what we must not do is use the old punishment and the new crime in the same action. Rape is no longer a violent crime, but a case of mistaken consent, like parking in spot 81 when you rented spot 82. We should not punish it like grand larceny, assault and murder. As the feminists tell us, most rapes are acquaintance rape. And for that, a quick ticket and a sharp fine should do the trick, and we can stop ruining the lives of men for regrets in a sexual marketplace of the lowest common denominator.

Brett Stevens, amerika.org 56 Comments [5/28/2015 3:15:50 AM]
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Quote# 108975

Something had to just BE. No matter what one believes there has to be a starting point. And we have absolutely no idea what HIS environment is like outside of our universe which science has indeed proven to have had a beginning, a starting point, an explosion of light just like the Bible had told us.

What you know as MAGIC I know as God.
Have a better explanation for the clear and unmistakable intelligent design we see everywhere we look? Exactly.
NOTHING cannot create ANYTHING.

And there is no more ridiculous an argument than stuff just created itself! Without reason or purpose. That is simply not what we see.
And that's why real scientists today are rejecting the religion of evolution and embracing what the data is telling them. Intelligent Design.
It's so painfully obvious that it's astounding.
That the scientifically ignorant and uneducated still cling to their completely disproven religion of evolution.

Not my opinion. Scientific fact. Design. Not a mathematically disproven series of remarkable "accidents". Check it out.
You'll be glad you did. Science is your friend. :)

The Last Trump, Christian News Network 26 Comments [5/28/2015 3:15:23 AM]
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Quote# 108967

ABOVE: scum of the earth Taylor Swift in action, showing her private area to a pervert looking up her skirt. This is how the Illuminati want today's tweens and teens to behave. Such sickening videos DESENSITIZE youth to sexual immorality. What you see above would be horribly sinful for even a married couple to do in public! Taylor Swift is a disgrace to her parents, America and the Christianity which she professes to have. But hey, anything for money, right!

What is wrong with people? The answer is greed for money. Taylor Swift is only 24 years old (birthday: December 13, 1989) and her net worth is a whopping $200,000,000!!![1] What an evil brat, slut and awful role model for children, tweens and teens! I get upset when I realize that tens-of-millions of little girls are being trained to become whorish sluts like Taylor Swift. It makes me angry how that start out singing Gospel music and wearing long dresses, and then 5-years later they're no better than mega-sluts Marilyn Monroe or Madonna. Young children are being introduced to ghetto rap music by Taylor Swift.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Precious 34 Comments [5/28/2015 3:10:51 AM]
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Quote# 108965

The witch image is the associated quality of the female Ego otherwise identified with female sexual impotence and its correlated forms of social impotence generally. Hence, the clinical significance of the acronym, WITCH, for the cited radical feminist group. Such variety of “radical feminism,” as distinct from its sane bitter factional opponent, Women's Liberation efforts, is essentially an outbreak of the most pathetic, most sadistic form of lesbianism. The method of indoctrination used by groups such as WITCH, so-called “consciousness-raising” sessions, were undoubtedly a modern replication of ancient “Witch meetings,” and represented the accidentally-discovered but not otherwise accidental most efficient means for turning a merely intensely neurotic young woman into a virtual psychotic.

Through social “reenforcement” in the group, the new victim is induced to call up the witch within her, and then to relinquish defenses against a more direct take-over by that image. The result of this, where it were successfully accomplished, would be a form of disassociation identical in key respects to a schizophrenic episode. Even the ordinary Ego “I” is weakened and the “I” of the outwardly-acting person is placed under intensified, more direct control of the witch called forth from the (Breughel's Bosch's Goya's) pit of unconscious processes. A woman reduced to this psychotic state, must tend to become a prostitute, a lesbian, or both. Although there is generally a necessary connection between the control of the Ego by a witch and lesbianism, and although prostitutes are generally lesbians who depend upon calling up witch qualities as the prerequisites of their professional practice. The special kind of lesbianism developed in radical-feminist “conscious-raising” forcing sessions is not to be simply equated with the ordinary case of lesbian behavior. The radical-feminism-produced lesbian is a special category of virtual psychotic, a synthetic product of a “brain-washing” technique which essentially reverses the psychoanalytical method.

Lyn Marcus, LaRouche Planet 13 Comments [5/28/2015 3:10:04 AM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 108963

After claiming that a man would meet his masturbating hand “pregnant in the afterlife” and “asking for its rights,” a Muslim televangelist has set Turkish social media aflame.

Self-styled televangelist Mücahid Cihad Han dived into some delicate matters on May 24 when he answered his viewers’ questions on private television station 2000 TV, Turkish media has reported. Han initially looked puzzled when a viewer said he “kept masturbating, although he was married, and even during the Umrah,” a pilgrimage to Mecca performed by Muslims which can be undertaken at any time of the year, in contrast to the Hajj.

After repeating the question a few times, Han claimed that Islam strictly prohibits masturbation as a “haram” (forbidden) act. “Moreover, one hadith states that those who have sexual intercourse with their hands will find their hands pregnant in the afterlife, complaining against them to God over its rights,” he said, referring to what he claimed to be a saying of Prophet Muhammad.

“If our viewer was single, I could recommend he marry, but what can I say now?” the televangelist added, advising the viewer to “resist Satan’s temptations.”

Mücahid Cihad Han, Hurriyet Daily News 26 Comments [5/28/2015 3:07:18 AM]
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Quote# 108960

Papal Ireland Approves Perverted Marriages!!

After same-sex marriages will come father/daughter and mother/son marriages!!

On May 22, 2015, Papal Ireland completely repudiated and rejected the Christianity that the noble Saint Patrick had labored for 60 years to establish in the Emerald Isle.

Way back in January of this year, the U.S. Supreme Court agreed to decide if perverted marriages were legal in the United States. To bolster the confidence of the U.S. Supreme Court, the Papal British Parliament swung into action and ordered the Papal Irish Parliament to hold a referendum on the legality of Adam and Steve marriages.

The result was a referendum held on May 23 of this year. The referendum legalized perverted marriages in a nation that was once known as the Island of Saints and Scholars.

The 2 men who were the driving force behind the referendum were Michael D. Higgins and Enda Kenny.

Higgins HATES the United States of Israel. In 2013, he unveiled a monument in Mexico City to Judas Riley of the San Patricio Battalion.

The first and most infamous perverted marriage that we know about was between Emperor Nero and his lover Sporus. Nero was one of the most horrible monsters that ever disgraced the annals of history. He successor now reigns in the very same spot where Nero's palace was once located.

The first infamous perverted marriage was between Caesar Nero and Sporus.

As the successor of Emperor Nero, Caesar Francis was delighted with the results of the Adam and Steve referendum.

Confidential reports even have him doing a "jig" at the Vatican!!

Ireland has been a British Crown Colony since the 13th century. Everything that happens in that colony has far reaching implications in the United States. Queen Victoria's father was an Irishman named "Sir" John Conroy.

The Irish Famine of 1846 was engineered to send millions of Papal Irish to California. The Easter Rebellion of 1916 was engineered to get U.S. military support against Queen Victoria's grandson, Kaiser Bill. President Kennedy and Lem Billings were the first perverted couple to live in the White House.

The referendum in Papal Ireland was meant to show that Caesar Francis would also be delighted if the U.S. Supreme Court approved perverted marriages.

The result of the Irish referendum was meant to "encourage" the U.S. Supreme Court justices.

The justices are very familiar with the Law of Moses so only huge bribes could make them legalize perversion.

As they "deliberate," the justices look right at a frieze of Moses in the bench. Here is what Moses said about marriage:

And JEHOVAH Elohim caused a deep sleep to fall on Adam, and he slept; and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh in its place. Then the rib which JEHOVAH Elohim had taken from man he made into a woman, and he brought her to the man. And Adam said: “this is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.” Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall be one flesh (Genesis 2: 22-24).

That text is so plain and easy to understand that even a child can comprehend that marriage is between a MAN and a WOMAN.

It is incumbent upon U.S. Supreme Court justices that they be familiar with the U.S. Constitution. There are only 2 crimes mentioned in the Constitution: TREASON and BRIBERY:

The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors. (U.S. Constitution Article II, Section 4).

It would be great to see the justices' bank accounts before and after their "deliberations," but money can be easily hidden in Swiss banks, and the true amount of the bribes will not be known until the Day of Judgment.

Patrick Scrivener, Reformation 43 Comments [5/27/2015 3:15:11 AM]
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Submitted By: Yossarian Lives

Quote# 108959



When you bought your new car, the factory was suppose to hand you over the Manufacturer's Certificate of Origin, but since you had no knowledge of this fact and never asked the factory to hand over all documents in connection with the motor driven wheels (car) by claim with their signature and oath, you just simply got ripped off. You must realize now that by driving your (their) car with their licence plate you give those criminals free reign over you!!!
What can you do? Learn the Truth Language Format and then write yourself a registered in the truth claim “Ford or Chev.” with serial No. through the Post Office sending it to your own address and send a copy to the Motor Vehicle Branch vacating all their ownership rights, by claim. Then design your own private plate/shield and mount them on your car and trailer. Send a copy to the chief of police with your Postmaster's Badge with tracking number (change the Social Insurance Number by leaving out the spaces between the numbers). End of the story? No, not by far, it will take some time ‘til the police will leave us alone. They learned it the hard way in the USA at least one state trooper got killed by an owner operator in self defence while driving with his own plates.

Fight 4 Truth, Fight 4 Truth 41 Comments [5/27/2015 3:15:01 AM]
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Submitted By: Ivurm

Quote# 108958

(A five year old girl wrote a letter to Obama, asking him to "give a speech to tell everyone they can marry who they want")

Now we have a five year old giving advice to the POTUS. Someone needs to take this girl and sit her down and explain to her that homosexuality is immoral and a abomination before God. Every time I read one bleeding heart liberal articles, I just want to hit the vomit button. The United States ought to be teaching its children Godly principals and truths that will help them make good choices in life and not the poster child for immoral living.

Richard , Yahoo! News  37 Comments [5/27/2015 3:14:21 AM]
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Submitted By: Ivurm

Quote# 108954

Tolerance is the last virtue of a dying society.

00Buckshot00, The Blaze 23 Comments [5/27/2015 3:11:36 AM]
Fundie Index: 13
Submitted By: Ivurm

Quote# 108953

First of all, a large number of 'rapes' are the woman's fault. Here's why.

A) She spent the night drinking and brought a man home/went home with him. Her ASD was telling her that she's not about to have sex, but it might just happen that way and when she gets to a bed, something puts her off. The room is dirty. His cock is small. She realises she's a slut and that this is not how respectable or valuable women behave. It could be any or all of these or something else entirely.

Whatever the reason, she decides she doesn't want to have sex. This is where any responsible adult takes charge of their own fate and makes this known. They state this, get up and leave. She doesn't. Her bad decisions, followed by her inability to speak up, mean that Bobby McBeta has sex with her against her will without being able to know this. She does not struggle. She does not say no. Is he supposed to read her fucking mind?

B) She fucked some guy and regretted it. "Rape!" The End.

C) Actual rape.

As for "when the rapist doesn't see it as rape", bullshit. Rape is a heinous crime, and if you can rape someone and not know about it, then either (A) has occurred, or you're an extremely fucked up sociopath.


ScholarInRed, Reddit: TheRedPill 38 Comments [5/27/2015 3:11:21 AM]
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Quote# 108952

He took responsibility, his family took responsibility, he sought forgiveness, and reported it to the authorities. TLC knew about this back in 2006 and did not take the family off the show. Authorities that investigated the incident felt that it was handled in a way that no further charges were necessary.

Yet look at what Isaac Washington said on my Facebook page:

“Shame on you, Eric. If this was anyone from any other faith than Christianity, you’d demonize them in a heartbeat and then use that as a springboard to sermonize about the superiority of your Christian morality.”

Isaac, I have news for you, Christians are not “excusing” #joshduggar’s actions. Christian morality is the basis for the judgment in the first place.

Honestly, I am blown away by the incredible double standard that is applied to Christians. We don’t claim to be perfect, we claim to be perfectly forgiven. We don’t claim to be better, we claim to be better off. We can forgive because we have been forgiven. And yes, we do use Christian Morality to judge. Haven’t you noticed that everyone is using Christian Morality to judge people?

Isaac, when a Christian admits his sin, goes to the proper authorities, pays the penalty, repents of his actions, is up front and honest with the world, and has made things right with the victims, he has done exactly what God has commanded him to do. Why would you say that Christians are applying a double standard?

The truth is, it is you who is applying a double standard. If evolution is true, then there is no absolute right and wrong. If evolution is true Josh should not have admitted his faults over a decade ago because what one evolved bag of molecules does to another bag of molecules just doesn’t really matter. If evolution is true there is no ultimate Judge on the bench who will hold every man, woman, and child responsible for their actions. And if evolution is true you will not give an account for every idle word you speak.

The truth is, we all use Christian Morality to judge people. The very idea of judgment comes from Christianity.

Isaac, you may be slow to forgive because you have never experienced forgiveness.

Eric Hovind , Creation Today  51 Comments [5/27/2015 3:11:08 AM]
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Submitted By: Ivurm

Quote# 108951

My mother's theology of gender: "God thought and thought and thought, and He made you a man." So much wisdom there.

Samuel James, Twitter 26 Comments [5/27/2015 3:10:34 AM]
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Submitted By: AJ Williams

Quote# 108950

It was a cold and snowy day, when suddenly a gamer announced online that she’s a girl. We’ve seen the scene played out multiple times across different gaming communities. By revealing herself as a female, her value suddenly increase 100-fold and instantly become as rare as a legendary pokemon.

A gamer girl will be forced to navigate through dozens of hormone driven posts from little boys who have never seen the sun. All that repressed biological male desire need to be released somewhere. However, a gamer girl has unlimited power once she manage to weather the storm. She can use her newly discovered power to have the entire gaming community under her control due to the perks of being a woman in a male-dominated environment.

Gamer Girl Privilege
It’s irrelevant if a girl is a “real” or “fake” gamer because they all receive similar special treatment. Typical membership benefits include perks such as the ability to receive extra items and help from most guys within the gaming world. Whether it be the rare items or that hard quest, it doesn’t matter. All she has to do is ask. Why go through the grind and farm for items when you can get it for free from others? A gamer girl won’t always succeed asking for help and getting what she wants, but her chance of success is considerably much higher than that of a male gamer.

A gamer girl also has a benefit of not ever being called out for her mistakes in the game. Calling out a girl for making an in-game mistake or telling her that she’s bad at the game online is an equivalent to punching or hitting a girl in real life. E-white knights will be there to defend her and you will be e-excommunicated from that social circle for daring to speak the truth.

In contrast, always expect to get blamed if something went wrong within the game, because nothing is ever her fault even if it clearly is. In her mind, she’s a woman and you are a random gamer guy who is probably nerdy. She should be paid money just for playing this game with you, let alone interact with you.

Gamer-Girl-Fail-...

It doesn’t just end there. Benefits and special treatment extend into social media where girls already have an advantage. She can start streaming on twitch.tv or open an account on Twitter and easily obtain thousands of followers of dedicated male gamers simply because she is a girl that happens to play video games. If it doesn’t work out, she can always play random video games on Youtube and become an e-celebrity.

For any social justice argument she gets into online, she can be sure that the majority of people will be on her side no matter how ridiculous or non-factual her argument is. Her opinions and feelings are prioritized above all other gamers and she must be kept happy at all time. IF SHE’S NOT HAPPY, she’ll leave us!!! And I won’t have an e-online girl to talk to anymore!!!!!!!!!11111

The Root Of Gamergate
Women get special treatment from every level in the gaming community. It doesn’t matter if they are a casual gamer, hardcore gamer, competitive gamer, game developer, etc. They are the first priority and their needs come above all else. This culture of women-first mentality is the reason why #gamergate first happened.

Zoe Quinn first took advantage of someone actually being nice enough to let her make a game despite her obvious lack of skill and imagination. Next, nobody called her out for creating Depression Quest. The game was so bad it shouldn’t be classified as a game. Next she slept with gaming journalists in order to get favorable reviews for her terrible anti-game game. We all know what happened next—the information leaked on the internet and her white knight gamers rushed to defend her action and attempted to delete all evidence regarding the topic like it never happened.

Zoe Quinn should have been condemned and then banished into the void for her actions instead of being hailed as a martyr who is fighting a holy war against misogyny and harassment. What she did is a slap to the face game developers who actually work hard to make great games and earn those favorable reviews.

Next we have Anita Sarkeesian, a girl who as recently as 2010 admitted herself that she is not a gamer. Her low-quality videos are an insult to gamers everywhere because it’s obvious that she doesn’t know what the fuck she is talking about. She continues to mislead the public by cherry-picking game mechanics and misinterpreting ideas within games in order to fit her feminist propaganda.

Alexander Anderson, Reaxxion 54 Comments [5/27/2015 3:10:24 AM]
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Submitted By: The Reptilian Jew

Quote# 108949

Expected 2016 presidential candidate Jeb Bush (R) endorsed anti-gay discrimination this weekend in an interview with David Brody of Christian Broadcast News.

After Bush explained that people of faith need “the space to act on their conscience,” Brody asked him about wedding vendors like bakers and florists who may not want to provide a service for a same-sex couple’s wedding. “Are you okay if they don’t provide those kinds of services? Is that okay?”

“Yeah, absolutely,” Bush responded, “if it’s based on a religious belief.” He went on to cite Washington florist Barronelle Stutzman as “the best example” of this conflict, suggesting that the woman who faces a $1,001 fine for not serving a same-sex couple “may lose her business because of this and has lost a lot because of the cost of all this.”

“A big country — a tolerant country — ought to be able to figure out the difference between discriminating against someone because of their sexual orientation and forcing someone to participate in a wedding that they find goes against their moral beliefs. We should be able to figure this out. This shouldn’t be this complicated, but gosh it is right now.”

In the same interview, Bush also admitted that he does not believe there is any constitutional right for same-sex couples to marry, adding the caveat that he is not a lawyer. “It’s thousands of years of culture and history is just being changed at warps speed. It’s hard to fathom why it is this way.” He added that he thinks “we need to be stalwart supporters of traditional marriage” to protect “children born in poverty,” referencing his recent support for the idea that marriage helps combat poverty.

This is the clearest Bush has been on these issues. He previously expressed support for Indiana’s “Religious Freedom Restoration Act,” but didn’t so blatantly state that discrimination against same-sex couples is “absolutely” okay. He’s also sounded somewhat moderate on same-sex marriage, suggesting at least that loving same-sex parents could be a model for other families.

Bush’s comments indicate that he believes that refusing to serve a same-sex couple for religious reasons is somehow not discrimination. But as Benton County Superior Court Judge Alex Ekstrom explained in his ruling against Stutzman, “No Court has ever held that religiously motivated conduct, expressive or otherwise, trumps state discrimination law in public accommodations.” He also dismissed any attempt to distinguish between the act of a marrying and the identity of sexual orientation: “The United States Supreme Court has long held that discrimination based on conduct associated with a protected characteristic constitutes discrimination on the basis of that characteristic.”

Brody’s interaction with Bush in the interview indicated that he shares the presumed candidate’s positions on these issues, and in his analysis, Brody addressed the idea that some conservatives perceive Bush as a “squishy moderate.” Bush “isn’t going to be the fire and brimstone candidate that goes for the applause lines or starts talking about Jesus at campaign events,” but his record as governor of Florida “reads like a social conservative’s dream scorecard.”

Jeb Bush, Thinkprogress 22 Comments [5/27/2015 3:08:57 AM]
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Submitted By: Ibuki Mioda

Quote# 108948

Even Charles Darwin admitted that it was ludicrous to apply evolution to the way that the human eye has been formed and operates. Yet he persisted in his foolishness.

I asked an evolutionist once if anyone had ever discovered a gorilla who could communicate fluently in English (even on a basic level). That would clearly establish evolution. The question was deftly avoided with some technical mumbo-jumbo.

Ezra, Worthy Christian Forums 40 Comments [5/27/2015 3:08:47 AM]
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Submitted By: Kong

Quote# 108946

"Liberalism" has rendered folks with the inability to think critically. Remember, we do not fight flesh against flesh. Our battles are in the spiritual realm. And they have been blinded - because they made a choice "against" the One who came to warn us.

patriotgrammy, WND 15 Comments [5/27/2015 3:02:41 AM]
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Submitted By: zipeprback

Quote# 108939

666: Fuhrer(6 letters) Adolph(6) Hitler(6) was reincarnated as George(6) Walker(6) Bush Jr.(6)

Fuhrer(6 letters) Adolph(6) Hitler(6) was reincarnated as George(6) Walker(6) Bush Jr.(6). Hitler committed suicide on April 30, 1945 along with his wife of one day Ava Braun. Bush Jr. was born on July 6, 1946.

Ronald(6) Wilson(6) Reagan(6) was the "1st Beast"/Antichrist. Bush Jr. was/is the "2nd Beast"/Antichrist. United(6) States(6) Dollar(6) is the "666 mark of the Beast". Google all that.

The Discoverer, Godlike Productions 32 Comments [5/27/2015 2:57:54 AM]
Fundie Index: 14

Quote# 108938

One does not have to believe in a young Earth to be a Christian but Christians should take the biblical position on everything. Origins of the Universe and the Earth are very important. We don’t need to trust in radiometric dating or even natural “clocks” to determine whether the Earth is young or old. The Bible is very clear on that issue but that’s another column.

Some thoughts concerning a young earth:

Rabid evolutionists have determined the earth is about 4.5 billion years old as supported, according to the myth, by fossils and radiometric dating. However, in my new eBook, Evolution: Fact, Fraud, or Faith? I dealt with the mistakes, uncertainties, ambiguities, contradictions, and general unreliability of radiometric dating of fossils. The dates produced by many modern methods are often dates that are called “scientifically correct” but are embarrassingly inaccurate.

It is a fact that the radioactive ages of lava beds laid down within a few weeks of each other differ by millions of years for which evolutionists have no answer.

Geologist Dr. Henry Faul (who specialized in dating rocks) wrote concerning one of those “reliable” dating methods–uranium dating: “…widely diverging ages can be measured on samples from the same spot.” Different dates from the same spot.

That fact was confirmed by Joan C. Engels, in the Journal of Geology: “It is now well known that K-Ar [potassium-argon] ages obtained from different minerals in a single rock may be strikingly discordant.” That’s about as scientific as a voodoo rooster-plucking ceremony in Haiti–almost.

Fredreck B. Jeaneman declared in Industrial Research and Development, “this could mean that the atomic clocks are reset during some global disaster, and events which brought the Mesozoic [the dinosaur age] to a close may not be 65 million years ago, but rather, within the age and memory of man.” Oops, that means a major segment of evolutionary teaching could be an error.

Curt Teichert admitted in the Bulletin of the Geological Society of America, “At present, no coherent picture of the history of the earth could be built on the basis of radioactive datings.” But inflexible, incoherent, and insecure evolutionists keep trying–without success.

The Great Barrier Reef is not millions of years old but less than 4,200 years old. That later date is ascertained because we know the growth rate for the last 25 years.

Geologists know that each stratum of sedimentary rock laid on top of each other shows no signs of erosion as they were allegedly laid down over “millions” of years. Everyone knows that exposure of stratum over millions of years would have resulted in massive erosion. However, the record shows the opposite. That is because “millions of years” is a myth. The strata were laid during and after the Flood so there was no time for erosion.

Another indication of a young Earth are large trees (which pass vertically through several rock layers) that could not have stood upright for millions of years without rotting while they were slowly buried. Those polystrate fossils were buried during and following the Flood.

Massive, thick layers of “rock” bent almost double without fracturing, indicate that the rock was soft when bent and no doubt happened following the Flood of Noah. Firm strata will break but they will never bend except in the evolutionary textbooks.

There are many other natural proofs of a young earth such as rather quick stalactite and stalagmite formation; red blood cells found in dinosaur fossils that are allegedly more than 65 million years old; the petrification of wood in a few years; the small amount of sodium in the ocean; the small amount of sediment in the Gulf of Mexico; the small amount of top soil all over the earth; the shrinking of the Sun indicates that if the Earth were ancient, it would have touched the Earth in only twenty million years; the number of people on Earth indicate a young Earth; and on and on and on.

Evolution is founded, not on science, but on distortions, myths, poor scholarship, circular reasoning, faulty premises, and a generous dose of wishful thinking. In plain English, it is pure quackery but none dare call it quackery.

You can stand with the atheists/evolutionists if you want as they belch their kooky, pseudo-scientific nonsense but I plan to continue standing with the One who created the Earth “in the beginning.”

Dr. Don Boys , BarbWire.com 19 Comments [5/27/2015 2:57:50 AM]
Fundie Index: 13
Submitted By: Persephone 66

Quote# 108935

[re: recent revlations that Christian conservative Josh Duggar molested girls in his youth]

The truth is, it is you who is applying a double standard. If evolution is true, then there is no absolute right and wrong. If evolution is true Josh should not have admitted his faults over a decade ago because what one evolved bag of molecules does to another bag of molecules just doesn’t really matter. If evolution is true there is no ultimate Judge on the bench who will hold every man, woman, and child responsible for their actions. And if evolution is true you will not give an account for every idle word you speak.

The truth is, we all use Christian Morality to judge people. The very idea of judgment comes from Christianity.

Eric Hovind, Creation Today 69 Comments [5/26/2015 3:18:09 AM]
Fundie Index: 39
Submitted By: Night Jaguar

Quote# 108934

Newsflash: The Bible is not changing. Religion should not get with the times. It is time society stops trying to rip pages out of the Bible. I sincerely hope the Supreme Court is smart and does NOT impose same-sex marriage in all 50 states. It threatens America's churches, especially the most conservative ones. It also threatens Christian schools. Liberal progressives seriously want to see pastors thrown in jail for life for preaching against same sex marriage and they want to take away tax exempt status for those who refuse to go along with gay marriage. The denominations who are allowing same sex marriage now are 100% WRONG on that issue. The Bible clearly states Adam and Eve. The Bible clearly prohibits a man sleeping with a man. It is not a slippery slope to other forms of "marriage", but it is a slippery slope to which all voices of opposition will be discriminated against, by the loss of jobs, the loss of their business, imprisonment.

However, there is one thing that is an ABSOLUTE FACT that NO one can deny. Jesus reigns. What He says goes. It doesn't matter if you're an atheist or a member of another religion. What Jesus says goes. He will stamp out ALL same sex relationships and marriages. He will get rid of all sin.

Furthermore, the Bible clearly says no one is born gay. Being gay is absolutely positively a choice. The Bible is the rule book on all human life, so no one can legitimately deny its teachings.

Just because we Christians hate gay marriage does not mean we hate gay people or are bigots. We love gays, but are just trying to uphold traditional, conservative values that liberal progressives are trying so hard to get rid of and replace.

Gay activists should not force everyone to accept their marriage. They want open mindedness, so why aren't they open minded to conservative, Biblical values?

Sorry for the rant, but it is a topic I have come to the correct realization on. Christianity reigns and gay marriage loses in eternity. Pure and simple.

BushOklahoma, US Election Atlas Forum 48 Comments [5/26/2015 3:15:12 AM]
Fundie Index: 21

Quote# 108933

It's only a matter of time.

You read cases about christian bakers who have been forced to shut down or bake cakes for married same sex couples.

The Church will eventually be faced with this choice, marry same sex couples or you will be closed down and don't think that freedom of religion laws will protect us. They are being slowly eroded away. If not in our lifetime then definitely in our children's.

SAVINGRACE , Catholic answer forums 39 Comments [5/26/2015 3:14:33 AM]
Fundie Index: 13
Submitted By: mary