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Quote# 106477

Scott Lively, the infamous US pastor who instigated Uganda’s ‘Kill The Gays’ legislation says he isn’t ‘anti-gay.’

Lively, who is set to stand trial in the US for his contribution to human rights violations in Uganda, recently blogged about the evil liberal media’s attempt to make him seem like a bad guy, by referring to him as ‘anti-gay.’

According to Pink News, Lively wrote:


“Most irritating and misleading is that all or most of the stories identify me (often in the title) as ‘anti-gay pastor’, as if that were some sort of professional title rather than an editorial comment.

I strongly object to that characterization, which deliberately misrepresents my opposition to the mainstreaming of homosexual conduct as hatred of homosexual persons.

The term ‘anti-gay’ effectively mistranslates the pro-family motto ‘Love the Sinner, Hate the Sin,’ into ‘Hate the Sinner because of the Sin’.

“As such it is not an honest descriptor but a slur, and its use by the media is an act of complicity in a dishonest and manipulative LGBT political tactic.

“Much of what the public falsely believes they know about my views and actions in the culture war is the fruit of this tactic and similar manipulative spin by pro-‘gay’ journalists throughout the industry.”

Following his 2009 visit to Uganda, a government official was quoted as saying:


“We must exterminate homosexuals before they exterminate society.”

Lively posted an update to the ‘Defend the Family’ web page while he was still in Uganda, bragging of the impact his hate-speech had on the people there.


“my host and ministry partner in Kampala, Stephen Langa, was overjoyed with the results of our efforts and predicted confidently that the coming weeks would see significant improvement in the moral climate of the nation, and a massive increase in pro-family activism in every social sphere. He said that a respected observer of society in Kampala had told him that our campaign was like a nuclear bomb against the “gay” agenda in Uganda. I pray that this, and the predictions, are true.”

Shortly after, the ‘kill the gays’ bill was introduced.

Lively is being sued for his role in the persecution of LGBT citizens in Uganda. Incidents of persecution against gays in Uganda have been steadily increasing over the past half decade, since Lively and other right wing fanatics targeted the country as ripe for spreading their distorted gospel of hate. LGBT citizens are attacked, arrested, imprisoned and deprived of basic human rights, such as the right to housing and food and water.

Now that he’s being sued, he claims he’s not responsible for the suffering of the LGBT community, although he went to Uganda with the sole purpose of instigating hatred toward gays. The misinformation that he spread while he was in Uganda, a country in which more than half the population is age 15 or younger, led directly to the increase in persecution seen today.

Now that he’s being sued, he’s not bragging about the ‘nuclear bomb’ he set off in Uganda. In fact, he’s claiming that the rise in persecution of gays in the country had nothing to do with him.


Scott Lively, addicting info 31 Comments [2/19/2015 3:54:02 AM]
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Submitted By: Mister Spak

Quote# 106475

The Rise of the Antichrist Barack Hussein Obama; The Final King of Babylon America

The source of the information I share here is from God himself and His word. Barack Hussein Obama will appear to have been killed or assassinated on the June 3 2016 and miraculously recover on June 6 2016
His wonder working false prophet will be Prince William. Take this with the seriousness it deserves coz the time of wrath approahes.

[...]

It will be the false flag of all false flags and they will pin it on a white male christian. Soon after his apparent death America will plunge into chaos and anarchy but when he comes back to life the whole world will wander after him now known as the beast. Nothing can stop this from happening on the dates I've mentioned. In Rev 12 the war in heaven happens 1260 days after the woman has been in the wilderness. She fled there on December 21 2012. Add 1260 days and you get June 3 2016. God has never gone back on His word if he says 1260 days He means it. Just be ready.

Kenya, Godlike Productions 35 Comments [2/19/2015 3:53:19 AM]
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Quote# 106474

Question: "If I convert to Christianity, my family will disown me, and I will be persecuted. Should I follow Jesus?"

Answer: Converting to Christianity means becoming a follower of Jesus by faith (John 10:26-30). Crowds flocked to Jesus, but most were not His true followers. They just wanted to experience healing of their diseases, see Jesus cast out demons, and eat their fill of the bread He miraculously provided. Jesus warned them of the cost of following Him.

“Then he called the crowd to him along with his disciples and said: ‘If anyone would come after me, he must deny himself and take up his cross and follow me. For whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for me and for the gospel will save it. What good is it for a man to gain the whole world, yet forfeit his soul? Or what can a man give in exchange for his soul? If anyone is ashamed of me and my words in this adulterous and sinful generation, the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when he comes in his Father’s glory with the holy angels’” (Mark 8:34-38).

Would you follow your own fleshly desires, or would you deny yourself and follow Jesus? Do you value your earthly life or eternal life? Do you treasure the goods of this world or the salvation of your soul? Do you fear being ashamed of Jesus or fear Jesus being ashamed of you?

You pursue what you treasure. You go to work and sweat because you know the rewards of a paycheck outweigh the temporary pleasure of reclining at home in front of the T.V. If Jesus calls you, you will follow, knowing that losing your earthly life is worth gaining eternal life.

Would you follow Jesus? Count the cost (Luke 14:25-33):

• Following Jesus costs your own life. Jesus said you must deny yourself, taking up your cross. One who rejects the cross cannot be Christ’s disciple (Luke 14:27).

• Following Jesus may cost the loss of family and friends. Jesus said His coming often brings division between His followers and their families, friends, and the world. Anyone who does not hate (meaning love less) his family is not worthy of Christ (Matthew 10:32-39).

• Following Jesus may cost the loss of your possessions. One rich man proudly thought he was good enough to go to heaven. “Jesus said to him, ‘If you wish to be complete, go and sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me’” (Matthew 19:21). Loving wealth more, the rich man sadly forsook Jesus.

• Following Jesus will cost facing persecution. Christians should expect suffering as a normal part of belonging to the “man of sorrows” (See Isaiah 53 and John 15:18-21). Jesus even called the persecuted one “blessed,” saying “rejoice and be glad for your reward in heaven is great” (See Matthew 5:10-12).

God’s people have always faced persecution. The prophets were reviled, tortured, and killed (Hebrews 11:37). History records that ten of Jesus’ disciples were executed for preaching Christ. Tradition states that Peter insisted on being crucified upside down because he counted himself unworthy to die in the same manner as his Lord. Yet he wrote, “If you are reviled for the name of Christ, you are blessed, because the Spirit of God and of glory rests on you” (1 Peter 4:14). The apostle Paul was jailed, beaten, shipwrecked, and stoned numerous times for preaching Christ, but he considered suffering not even worth mentioning compared to the reward he knew awaited in paradise (Romans 8:18).

Following Jesus doesn’t necessarily mean you’ll lose your possessions, family, friends, and physical life, but are you willing?

While the cost of discipleship seems high, persecution brings earthly and heavenly rewards. Through persecution, the Lord stays with believers (Matthew 28:20; Hebrews 13:5); He knows their limits and gives grace (1 Corinthians 10:13; 2 Corinthians 12:9); He rewards them in heaven (Matthew 5:10-12); He works persecution for good, shaping the believer’s character and glorifying Himself (Romans 8:28). The rewards far outweigh the cost of following Jesus!

Jesus suffered and died on the cross to take the believer’s punishment for sin. The only way of forgiveness and eternal life is through faith in the Lord Jesus (Ephesians 2:8-9). Although a Christian’s enduring persecution does not add any saving merit to the perfect work of Christ, a true believer will faithfully follow Jesus through suffering.

Got Questions ministries, GotQuestions.org 19 Comments [2/19/2015 3:53:12 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 106472

It happened many years ago. I had just spoken in Portland Oregon. My children were still small, and whenever I accepted an out-of-town speaking engagement, I made certain to catch a "red-eye" flight so that I might make it back in time to give them breakfast and see them off to school.

[...]

I was on the verge of dozing off when a young man approached us. I was really too tired to talk to anyone, but then again, maybe he was someone who had to be reached.

"Are you from Portland?" he asked.

"No, I'm from New York," I replied, "but I was speaking there."

"Where were you speaking?"

"In the local synagogue."

"I don't get involved in any of that stuff."

"Are you Jewish?" I asked.

"I guess I am," he said.

"You only guess?"

"Yeah, it's an accident of birth. Doesn't affect my life one way or another."

Our conversation was interrupted by the stewardess who was distributing the midnight snacks.

"Jungreis," she said, reading the label. "I have you down for kosher... And what would you like to have?" she asked, turning to him.

"I'll take ham and cheese," was his answer.

"You can't have that," I interrupted.

"What do you mean, I can't have it? It's my favorite sandwich."

"But you told me you're Jewish."

"So what!"

"So what? You must be kidding. You signed a contract - you sealed a covenant at Mount Sinai that you wouldn't eat that stuff. You were there. All Jewish souls that were ever to be born were there. As a matter of fact," I added, "looking at you now, I think I remember you. We all pledged to uphold the covenant."

He looked at me in disbelief. "Lady, you know something, you need help and I mean serious help!"

And with that, he picked himself up, walked back toward his seat and told the stewardess as he passed her in the aisle, "That woman is off the wall!"

For the remainder of the flight, he didn't look my way.

At JFK we met once again at the baggage carousel, and he said to me, "You know, what you said is nuts!"

"Listen, my name is Esther Jungreis. Here is my card. We have an organization called Hineni, which means, 'Here I am', ready to serve my people and my G-d. We remind people of that covenant sealed at Sinai. You can check it out. It's all documented in a Book called the Torah. The whole story can be found there. You will see. You really were there. If you need help in your search, let me know. I'd be more than happy to show you."

"I bet you would! But I'm running from you as fast as possible!" And with that, he turned his back and went to find his suitcase.

Rebbetzin Esther Jungreis, Hineni 51 Comments [2/18/2015 3:36:07 PM]
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Quote# 106471

Last week, I focused on the group Women of the Wall and its choice of the Kotel as a battleground, donning tallis and tefillin and conducting services in the manner of men. I asked why, if these women are sincerely motivated, they do not hold their services in any of the thousand and one places where they would be welcomed with open arms. I wondered whether their goal is not so much wearing tallis and tefillin as it is taking a jab at the Torah community.

[...]

Our Torah places females on the highest pedestal of respect, esteem, honor, and glory. Why would we need any kind of women's liberation movement? What are we to be liberated from? From our majestic calling of kindling the lights of faith and passing the torch of Judaism to all generations? Can there be any greater glory than that? What are our sisters seeking? What are they protesting?

It is not out of contempt that I'm writing this but rather to sound the alarm, to awaken our people. We are confronted today by challenges that, G-d forbid, threaten to snuff out the very lives of our brethren in Israel and worldwide. At such a time, how can any of us transform the holy Kotel - the remnant of our Temple and the most sacred site we Jews possess - into a place of provocation and infighting?

[...]

One final word to Women of the Wall: My dear sisters, would everyone not be better served if, rather than making a spectacle at the Kotel, disrupting those who come there to spill out their broken hearts and wash the Wall with their tears, you instead built walls of faith and love - walls that would insulate our people from the madness of the world?

Let's stop the nonsense and become serious Jews.

Rebbetzin Esther Jungreis, Hineni 13 Comments [2/18/2015 3:35:40 PM]
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Quote# 106470

The aberrosexual NFL washout Michael Sam “proposed” to the guy whose body he uses for masturbatory friction on the cupola of St. Peter’s Basilica in Rome – exactly, directly over the tomb of St. Peter. Because there was no other place on the surface of the earth that these shameless sodomites could have mocked and aped the sacrament of marriage. They had to do it whilst LITERALLY dancing on the grave of St. Peter.

Folks, the objective of these people and their satanic agenda is not, never has been, and never will be a “peaceful co-existence”. The order of progression, once sodomites are given even the slightest quarter in a culture, is:
Tolerance, acceptance, ratification, cooperation, participation.

Now you might be asking, “How can they force people to PARTICIPATE?”

The actor Billy Crystal, who actually played the first open sodomite character on teevee on the creepy sitcom SOAP in the ’70s, said recently that he really doesn’t care to watch sodomite sex scenes on teevee and in movies and was attacked and “forced” to apologize. Watching pornographic depictions of sodomite activity is a form of participation. Crystal was “punished” for stating that he preferred not to participate.

Ann Barnhardt, Barnhart.biz 26 Comments [2/18/2015 3:35:33 PM]
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Quote# 106469

I do not think that Francis’ horrific rhetoric should be ignored, but rather explained, because what every one of his episodes provides is an opportunity for catechesis. Even if just one or two people learn and have a lightbulb go on above their head when unpacking his staggering, malignant stupidity, it is worth it. It is certainly better than nothing. For example, when he was recently in the Philippines, a little girl asked him why God permits terrible things like child prostitution to happen. And, of course, Francis, being dumb and apparently profoundly uncatechized in Catholicism, said, “She is the only one who has put forward a question for which there is no answer….”

Um, no. The answer is because God Almighty, because He LOVES US, holds our wills SACRED and will not ever overcome our will or coerce us, because the second He does that, we are no longer subjects, but objects. Plastic chessmen. Love CANNOT be coerced. It has to be freely given and freely returned, and that freedom includes the freedom to reject The Lover and to choose evil. A third of the angels chose evil. We choose evil with every sin. And, paradoxically, it is precisely in that reality that we KNOW that we are loved more than we can ever, ever comprehend.

But now somewhere in the Philippines there is a little girl who thinks that God is an indifferent “divine watchmaker” and that the Church has no answer to her question, when in fact it is a children’s Penny Catechism 101 topic.

This is why I pray for God to remove Pope Francis from office.

Ann Barnhardt, Barnhardt.biz 25 Comments [2/18/2015 3:35:28 PM]
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Quote# 106463

One God manifested in 3 persons or beings if you prefer. Father, Son & Holy Spirit. Example. H2O - water, vapor ice - All 3 the same element. Different manifestations. If the most basic element can be 3 how much more the Triune God?

CAM, Amazon Atheist Forum 46 Comments [2/18/2015 4:10:49 AM]
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Quote# 106461

“Ray. There is a clip of you on various shows asking how did a recently blind dog find the first female dog. You cannot claim you do understand it. In EVERY of your debates you showed you do not understand it.” John Milk

At some point in the supposed evolutionary process, the ancient ancestors of what we now call “dogs” evolved eyes that could see. Before that, their underdeveloped evolving eyes couldn't function. Unless you think that this pre-dog creature was instantly given eyes, you are stuck with a blind pre-canine creature, despite your protest that I don’t understand it.


If I’m wrong, explain to me in very simple language—where and how did today’s dogs get their eyes?

And while you are at it, explain how it is that we have millions of species--all with male and female, all reproducing after their own kind…just as the Bible says. All I ever hear from evolution believers is "Evolution did-it." That’s not good enough for me. Please don’t send me 2000 links to atheist rabbit trails.


Ray Comfort, Facebook 65 Comments [2/18/2015 4:10:33 AM]
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Submitted By: Nemo

Quote# 106455

The important point for you to understand is that Hell is God’s turf, and He thinks it is FABULOUS.  No one forced God to come up with the sadistic torments of Hell: they were all His idea.  Today many Christians like to pretend that if Hell is real, it will only be a temporary torment.  Well, no, this is not what God teaches us.  Hell is ETERNAL.  This bothers us intensely, but we will just have to suck it up because GOD defines reality, not us.

Anna Diehl, The Pursuit of God 37 Comments [2/18/2015 4:03:59 AM]
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Quote# 106454

1. That any explanation of life either directly or indirectly indicates the existence of a spiritual (not limited by time) being or beings.

2. Genesis is an evolutionary account.

3. The prophecies in the Bible are (and many <Israel> already have) coming true. They are specific enough to be able to discern future events beyond any mathematical possibilities- NOT Nostradamos hindsight making facts try to fit imprecise generalizations.

I offer for your elucidation amessageforthehumanrace.
AChristian

pgardner31, About Agnosticism/Atheism 30 Comments [2/17/2015 4:22:32 AM]
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Quote# 106452

Thank you for your instruction. Having been college-educated in (double major) math and physics, also psychology, also philosophy (specifically symbolic logic <including Boolean Algebra>; I have been through all of the mental reasonings in the realm of knowledge. Using them empirically, I realized 1. The Bible was the word of God, 2. Christ was who He said He was, 3. Objective knowledge could indicate a correct evaluation of the totality of human awareness but could not encompass all of the phenomena witnessed in that totality, 4. The necessity for an opposing will to God's, and a being with a free will to choose, 5. I had a spirit- deeper than my mind. 6. The religious system of Christianity was false- prima-facie- in that it was in actuality either following Christ or expressing His purpose.

I had logically reached these conclusions before I had read a word of the Bible or being born again (personally knowing, not mere knowing about, Christ). So, my dear C12*, have no fear of shaking my beliefs: I am my beliefs, they are not mere mental conclusions which can be over ruled by different or superior reasoning.

What I am saying as that knowledge can give a valid indication of truth, but truth- being eternal, not temporal- is not the same as correct knowledge. And, since truth is not a thing but an eternal person (God) and since temporally we have a free will; then the validation of truth is a subjective experience <no less real and as unmistakable as laboratory conclusions.


AChristian

pgardner31, About Agnosticism/Atheism 47 Comments [2/17/2015 4:22:20 AM]
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Quote# 106449

The definition of rape seems to be subjective these days. I personally do not believe it is possible for a woman to rape a man, since I define rape as sexual male violence done to females, involving penile penetration orally,vaginally,or anally. Since women don’t have penises, by this definition they cannot rape…unless you’d go out of your way to use a foreign object. But even then I am conflicted, because the term rape also carries a historical context, in which rape has been, as is still largely used a tool by men to keep women subordinate, take away their autonomy, dehumanize them, impregnate, spread disease etc. Rape is used as a weapon during times of war, in which historically more women are killed during the organized mass rapes then the men who die in combat.

Ana, Ask a Radfem 41 Comments [2/17/2015 4:11:50 AM]
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Quote# 106448

["Do you think it's bad I have to put safe mode on my laptop just to ensure my bf won't watchh porn? Like why is it such a big ask"]

No. Ensuring that your male partner doesn’t engage in consuming violent, misogynist materials is important. You are taking a preventive measure, and ultimately protecting yourself.

r4df3m, Ask a Radfem 27 Comments [2/17/2015 4:11:42 AM]
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Quote# 106445

[Regarding the Copenhagen attack and a shooting at a synagogue]

It's the same tragedy again in Europe. Another shooting, more killing by Islamic terrorists, and another attack on a Jewish location. How many will there be of these before Europe learns? How many of these will there be before European Jews learn that Europe is not their true home and Israel is?

SnatchedUp, Rapture Ready 30 Comments [2/17/2015 4:02:51 AM]
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Submitted By: Wilhelm Bye

Quote# 106441

“The suicide of France: the 40 years that defeated France” is Eric Zemmour’s scathing attack on the failures of the country’s leadership and its elites since the end of the Gaullist era in 1969.

Alongside economic stagnation, immigration has killed France’s cultural identity, writes Zemmour, a popular if controversial figure whose outlook is seen as drifting ever closer to the far-right. In a review of his book this week, left-leaning daily Libération opens its article calling him “sexist, homophobic and Islamophobic”.

Perhaps most controversially, Zemmour states that the dark days of Vichy France during the Nazi occupation are both misunderstood and misrepresented, victim of an historical orthodoxy that views everything about the collaborationist regime in terms of “absolute evil”.

[...]

For Paxton, the fact that a quarter of Jews living in France during the war perished was part of a wide-ranging and deliberately anti-Semitic collaborationist policy.

But Zemmour leaps to the Vichy leadership’s defence – insisting that the surviving 75 percent were “saved by the strategy of [Vichy leader] Philippe Pétain and [wartime Prime Minister] Pierre Laval in the face of German demands”.

Specifically, he says they deliberately “sacrificed foreign Jews (living in France) in order to save French Jews”.

While stopping short of praising Pétain and Laval, Zemmour wants his readers to understand that there is a “difference between morality...and political efficiency” when making their judgement on the Vichy regime.

[Hyperlink original]

Éric Zemmour, France24 18 Comments [2/17/2015 4:02:00 AM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 106439

Satan's greatest weapon is to con people into living the Christian life without ever being born again! Billy Graham's website adds a bunch of extra requirements to be saved, requiring people to count the cost, surrender to Christ by a definite act of the will, and allow God to change your life. These are NOT Biblical requirements for salvation! Mr. Graham has confused discipleship with salvation.

Here are the heretical words of Billy Graham from his website. This is a false Gospel which cannot produce the new birth...

How To Be Sure You're Saved

First, you must recognize your need.

Second, you must understand the cross.

Third, you must count the cost.

He also said, “Which of you, intending to build a tower, does not sit down first and count the cost? … So likewise, whoever of you does not forsake all that he has cannot be My disciple” (Luke 14:28, 33).

Many people come to Christ without first counting the cost. The cost includes repentance, the forsaking of sin, and a continual, daily, open acknowledgment of Christ in your life.

Fourth, you must take a definite step.

One day at Stanford University, a student of a non-Christian faith came to me and said he was convinced that Jesus is the Son of God but said he couldn’t confess Him publicly. He said that back in his own country the cost socially would be too great.

I had to tell him that the Bible says: “Whoever confesses Me before men, him I will also confess before My Father who is in heaven. But whoever denies Me before men, him I will also deny before My Father who is in heaven” (Matthew 10:32-33).

Like the rich young ruler of old, the student went away sad. He had counted the cost and was not able to pay the price of open acknowledgment of Jesus Christ as his Savior.

We ask people to make a public confession of Christ in our meetings because Christ demanded a definite commitment. Christ had reasons for demanding that people openly follow Him. He knew that an unwitnessed vow is no vow at all. Until you have surrendered to Christ by a definite act of your will, you are not a Christian.

SOURCE: How to Be Sure You’re Saved | Decision Magazine | BGEA

Billy Graham has confused discipleship with salvation.

The apostle Paul writes to the saints in Rome (Romans 1:7). Paul pleads with the saints in Rome to “present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service” to the Lord (Romans 12:1-2). Now if discipleship were required to be saved, then these people could not have been saints. The Bible tells us that Paul wrote (under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit) the book of Romans to the saints (meaning they were saved)...

Romans 1:6-8, “Among whom are ye also the called of Jesus Christ: To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ. First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all, that your faith is spoken of throughout the whole world.”

Billy Graham is corrupted, big time! In the same article and link that I just shared with you, Graham teaches that the rich young ruler in Luke 18 “had counted the cost and was not able to pay the price of open acknowledgment of Jesus Christ as his Savior.” That is bull crap theology ladies and gentlemen. Would you please read John 12:42-43 with me, proving Mr. Graham a fraud... “Nevertheless among the chief rulers also many believed on him; but because of the Pharisees they did not confess him, lest they should be put out of the synagogue: For they loved the praise of men more than the praise of God.”

You just read it! Many of the chief rulers believed on Jesus, but due to fear of being kicked out of the synagogue, DIDN'T tell anyone that they were saved. They hid their faith from others. According to Billy Graham's false Gospel, these men were not saved. According to Billy they weren't willing to pay the price of confessing Christ publicly, so they weren't saved. Isn't that a bunch of nonsense that Billy Graham is dishing out! Billy Graham is paid $633,722 a year, to lead people into the fires of Hell, by getting them to live the Christian life without being born-again!!! Ladies and gentleman, that is a false gospel of works salvation!!! Billy Graham is of the Devil.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Precious 37 Comments [2/17/2015 4:00:34 AM]
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Quote# 106437

The music industry is now much smarter than it was in the days of Judas Priest, Black Sabbath, and Slayer. Your daughter is not likely to love Marilyn Manson and erect an idol to Satan in her bedroom. Your son will not likely consecrate his baby to Lucifer and baptize him in goat’s blood.

Overt Satanism is out of style. However, young people are likely to exchange their Christian faith for sexual license. The stats show that young people will likely exchange the sacramental life and liturgy for the liturgy of sexual experimentation.

And that’s exactly why this song has become an American anthem. The devil doesn’t needs a league of heavy metal Satanists. He’d almost prefer to have people mocking the Christian sacraments and ritual.

If God isn’t real – “If the Heavens ever did speak” – then the only goods to be enjoyed in this life are the pleasures of food and sex. That’s all there is left for humans to experience transcendence. Hozier gets it and he sings for us a catchy hymn.

Taylor Marshall, taylormarshall.com 27 Comments [2/17/2015 3:58:02 AM]
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Submitted By: Elie

Quote# 106436

If the value of Liberty is based on the existence of God, what happens when society loses it’s belief in God? What then sustains this value? If He doesn’t exist, why does freedom matter? We might argue that freedom is good, but why? I’ve discussed this matter with Bay Area Guy and while both of us are non religious, we both nevertheless believe that the idea of God is a force for good in society. If we remove God, morality dies along with Him. As Dostoyevsky said: “If God is dead, then everything is permitted.” Atheism leads to one dead end: Social Darwinism.

If God is dead, why bother being moral? Why not let nature take its course and let the big fish dominate all the smaller fish? Furthermore, if liberty is based on the existence of God, and as God is gradually killed off by post-modern society, could this then explain the disturbing erosion of our freedoms? Is this why NSA surveillance is on the rise? Is the State destined to replace God as the omnipresent apparition of observation and judgement?

Dota, Occident Invicta 40 Comments [2/17/2015 3:56:51 AM]
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Quote# 106433

[letter to aborted half-sibling]

She was 15 when your life started, 16 when your life ended. She said no one told her you were more than a lump of tissue. I’m sorry for ignorance.

Your father would be 57 now. She said he doesn’t know. I wish she told him. I wish he fought for you. I wish somebody fought. I’m sorry for secrets.

You would have been my half sibling. 14 years older than me. She took you from me before I even existed…before I could do anything. I’m sorry for unfairness.

You would have been 34 years old. You would have more than likely been married and have your own children. I would have nieces and nephews, you would have a family. But you weren’t even given a name. I’m sorry for abandonment.

Maybe when my other siblings were telling me lies and devaluing me, you would have spoken truth. Maybe you would have stood up for me when no one did. I’m sorry for life being devalued.

Is it possible to miss someone you’ve never even met?…because my heart longs for you. It longs for you to have life. I’m sorry for death.

I wish you could have come to my graduation, I wish I could have gone to yours. I wish we were friends. I wish I could call you right now. I wish we could share all of our joys and griefs. I wish we were at least given a chance.

I’m sorry for selfishness.

It’s just so unfair for you…for us. How could she have killed you? How could our grandmother drive our mother to the clinic so that they could murder you? I’m sorry for silence.

I miss you. I love you.

I’m so sorry no one loved you.


anonymous, Life site 59 Comments [2/16/2015 4:45:14 AM]
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Quote# 106429

Ultimately the source of all social ills is not evolution, but sin. When people rebel against God’s laws, we all suffer. Evolution, however, gives people a way of rationalizing their sin by giving them an excuse to reject Scripture. Therefore, as people increasingly embrace evolution, we expect to see as a general trend an increase in social ills such as school violence. However, a number of schools do allow criticism of evolution. And creationists are having a greater influence than in the past. Therefore, we might expect to see social ills decrease as people begin embracing Scriptur

Jason Lisle, Jason Lisle 32 Comments [2/16/2015 4:44:39 AM]
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Submitted By: Tony

Quote# 106426

My cynical 2 cents: gets a pass because m-t-f transgender who is often assumed to be an “Asian woman” because of the name. Until I saw pictures, this was my assumption because if you don’t see pics and only read text, well…

Seeing the Twitter ID pic had me think “She doesn’t look Asian… Looks white. Half or married to an Asian?” and thought nothing further on it.

Then saw pictures of “her” in an interview whimpering about discrimination against women.

VERY cynical thought that came after: talentless hack who couldn’t get into the industry as a guy because he’d be expected to perform based on skill and merit riding the women studies grievance gravy train.

Initially I thought the huge boobs on the characters and costumes would not bug me… until the creator weren’t constantly bitching about the sexualization of women characters. Before that, I just thought that the character models were badly made/designed and ugly (Seriously, 1990 game graphics look better) and looked amateurish – almost beginner level low rez 3D model attempts.

But that is after reading Wu’s behavior online.

Shadowdancer Duskstar / Cutelildrow, According to Hoyt 60 Comments [2/16/2015 4:43:01 AM]
Fundie Index: 8

Quote# 106423

Dinosaurs are born in hell, whereas apemen are changed people.
Apemen and elephantmen are cursed masons from tower of Babel. Read Book of Jasher, Chapter 9, verse 35. And the Lord smote the three divisions that were there, and He punished them according to their works and designs; those who said, We will ascend to heaven and serve our gods, became like apes and elephants...
According to Russian Orthodox Christian Vyatcheslav Krasheninnikov: Humans were created about 7525 years ago. Birds participate in time creation. It's a sin to kill birds. Feed the pigeons; when pigeons bow down, people are rescued from hell. Dinosaurs live under our level. They will get out through sinkholes and lakes. To kill them, go for their nerves. Vyatcheslav Krasheninnikov said that first dinosaur will come out of Volga River.
Animals on the ark ate minimal to survive. Only animals that knelt before Noah went inside the ark. Other animals and 700 000 people drowned.

kentbeaner, phys.org 49 Comments [2/16/2015 4:33:23 AM]
Fundie Index: 43
Submitted By: zipperback

Quote# 106417

If you try to change marriage from one man and one woman, you are trying to change the law from what my religion says it should be. And if you succeed, then the law will reflect your beliefs, which are inferior to mine.

Gary, Christiannews.net  59 Comments [2/15/2015 4:40:20 AM]
Fundie Index: 49

Quote# 106414

American Family Association governmental affairs director Sandy Rios is upset that media commentators like George Will are mocking Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker for refusing to say this week whether he believes in evolution. After all, Rios explained on her radio show today, “science has done nothing but disprove the theory of evolution.”

“There is no scientific evidence” to substantiate evolution, she said, at least according to “the real experts.” So why has this stunning revelation that the foundational theory behind modern biology has been refuted not percolated through the scientific community? Well, Rios explained, that’s because evolution has become a sacred, religious tenant.

“Evolution has become the religion of the elite,” Rios said. “It’s a religion to the [level of] fanaticism of what they would say was the people at the Scopes monkey trial, the Christians waving their Bibles who were not really thinking through the facts, they were just outraged because it was against God’s law. The truth of the matter is that the evolutionists like George Will, waving their evolutionary theory, have become as rabid and unreasoned as what they accuse the Scopes monkey religionists of doing to Darwin during that time. It has become a religion. Science has disproven so much of evolution…. These guys are wrong, Scott Walker is right.”

Sandy Rios, Right Wing Watch 32 Comments [2/15/2015 4:39:41 AM]
Fundie Index: 18
Submitted By: Giveitaday
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