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Quote# 114644

NNJamerson, in another thread you have ALLUDED that I am an ignoramus and you are the informed one saying, it "appears you don't even know what an insect is". The word "insect" in fact can and is used for a spider, as a colloquialism, by most people.

. If it is true that I/we as creationists, am worthy of derision, then since I myself invented these following questions that pertain to evolution theory, it would be quite silly for you to then believe that if I know all of the answers but you don't, that I am the uninformed ignoramus. And so I made the thread for evolutionists so I can link them to it when they play those cards.

(Reductio Ad Absurdum = if I was an ignoramus I WOULD know the answers)

Absurd, I would obviously not know them nor be able to invent the questions therefore I am not an ignoramus. (modus tollens)

Similarly we can also say that if you are superior to me in knowledge, you would certainly know the answers since I do know them.

1. Could the evolutionist now explain to me why the more heterozygous alleles in one gene-pool would be better in regard to sickled blood cells, as opposed to the more homozygous allele frequencies in another gene pool, in relation to a certain disease?

2. Could the evolutionist explain the difference between the cursorial theory and the arboreal theory in regards to the different way to achieve morphological flaps/rudimentary wings, for gliding. Clue: Crocodilomorphs. Please explain the two conjectural ways to achieve flight.

3. Could the evolutionist explain to me the difference between a retrogressive feature and a homoplastic feature?

5. Could the evolutionist explain to me what a monophyletic group is as opposed to a polyphyletic one?

6. Could the evolutionist give me another name for differential reproduction.

8. Could the evolutionist explain the difference between homological structures and morphological function in them, by giving an example.

9. Could the evolutionist please explain what the term is for a change in the use of features for a function such as protofeathers initially being used for insulation but then used for flight. --------.

10. Could the evolutionist tell me the term used for the reintroduction of information into a gene pool? ---- ----.

11. Could the evolutionist tell me the difference between an acquired characteristic, and a shared, derived characteristic by explaining in full, the difference.

?12. The seahorse is the only real v------- fish.

13. What is the term that can be used in place of this term; "stasis" = n--------- ---------.

14. What homoplasy do oil birds and whales share?

15. Apes are, a------, as they dwell in trees. Humans are -------, because we sleep at night.

16. The law of ------------- means that the tertiary cannot outdate the cambrian, according to the long-age paradigm.

17. A fossil is starting to p------------ if it is starting to lose it's actual boney remains.

18. What is another name for conjectural excuses that are invoked posteriori in order to explain why facts don't fit with a theory; A ----- ----------.

19. Karl Popper shown that a good way to predict what a theory would evidence is by using the form of a ----- -o--- by placing confirmation evidence in the place of the c---------.

20. What is the type of reasoning for confirmation evidence in the form of a tally or statistics, ---------.

LOGIC QUESTIONS NOW:

1. The opposite of a contradiction by definition is a ---------.

2. What is the name of this fallacy; "you are either with me or against me".

3. What is the name of this logical error that depends on coincidence; "X before Y therefore X caused Y" --- --- ---------

4. What is the latin name for this fallacy; "Professor X said it is true therefore it must be, and here is all of the work he has done on the subject...."

5. Give an example of a a false No-true scotsman fallacy, that has not actually been committed.

(I think I will just keep this thread to show to evolutionists that enjoy making it seem like creationists are totally ignorant.)

mike the wiz, Evolution Fairytale 25 Comments [11/22/2015 3:33:58 PM]
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Quote# 114641

Saying "proven facts" over and over doesn't make it true, there is NOTHING (read it slowly) N-O-T-H-I-N-G about evolutionism that has been proven. Evolutionists take minor adaptations and stretch it out to some wild dreamed up fantasy about common ancestors and missing links.

Oboehner, Christian News Network 12 Comments [11/22/2015 3:33:24 PM]
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Quote# 114640

The man is in disbelief that his wife has become so uncaring and heartless. She is bold with harsh words, accusative and degrading. Her husband doesn't recognize her anymore. Albeit, the husband realizes that his once emotionally fragile wife was always susceptible and vulnerable, highly impressionable by every influence that came her way. That's why women belong at home. I've seen marriage after marriage fall apart because the wife meets someone (whether another man or a female friend) at work. The man's wife was mentally and spiritually weak, just waiting for a serpent to come along and poison her mind. As long as the wife is being coached by feminist meddlers, under the influence of evil marriage wreckers, she won't think for herself and never come to her senses.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 18 Comments [11/22/2015 3:32:54 PM]
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Quote# 114638

DEMON POSSESSION OF MUHAMMED EXPLAINED BELOW

Muhammad himself admitted that he was possessed by the devil:

SO WHY IN THE HELL WOULD SOMEONE FOLLOW A PERSON WHO SAYS HE IS POSSED BY THE DEVIL??? MUSLIMS ARE YOU THAT STUPID?? Muslims why have you not investigated you OWN Religion???

MUHAMMAD LIVED IN A CAVE BEFORE HE SPEWED WHAT HE SAW TO EVERYONE - I believe Muhammad sincerely believed that he actually saw the angel Gabriel in the CAVE. HOWEVER, I believe that the angel was not Gabriel. I believe the angel was a demon, probably Satan himself.

I believe Muhammad was deceived by a demon who subsequently possessed his mind, changed him and made use of him to deceive mankind into worshipping a pagan idol named Allah in place of the one true God of Abraham called YHWH (Yahweh Elohim). It is just trying to get the average Muslim TO WAKE UP TO THIS DECEPTION WHICH IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE!!!

‘Anas reported that Gabriel appeared before the Apostle of Allah (Muhammad), while he was playing with some boys. Gabriel took him, laid him down, pierced his heart, and took out a clot of blood. Then he said, “This is the portion of you possessed of a devil.” Next, he washed it in a gold cup with water from the well Zamzam. Thereafter sewed him up and took him back to where he found him…’ (Attended by Muslim. Al-Hadis, Volume 4 page 367)

Muhammad himself admitted that he was possessed by Satan at one time:
‘Have you, then, seen Al-Lat and Al-Uzza? And Manat, the third one, the other? These are exalted females (sublime ones), Mounting nearer and nearer to Allah And truly their intercession may be expected. ( Al-Qur’an, Sura 53 verse19-20, and the Satanic verses in bold letters)

The Satanic verses were present in the original version of the Qur’an when Muhammad was trying to woo the Meccans who believed in many gods including the pagan idols Al-Lat, Al-Uzza and Manat.
Later on, when he was in a more commanding position, he conveniently edited out these embarrassing verses, admitting that they were inspired in him by Satan. “We have not sent a messenger or prophet before you but when he recited, the Devil would intrude into his recitation. (Al-Qur’an. Sura 22 verse 53)

Muhammad admitted that he had a Jinn (demon) up his nose. (Al-Hadis. Volume 4, Book 54, No.516) Muhammed said that bad dreams are from Satan.
(Al-Hadis. Volume 4, Book 54, No. 513) Muhammad had his own resident demon, the one-eyed Dajjal. (Al-Hadis. Volume 3, page 803)

ON THE OTHER HAND CHRIST HAD POWER OVER THE DEVIL - So you tell me who the TRUE PROPHET WAS???? ANSWER: JESUS/YAHSHUA

Wake Up Muslims!!, Godlike Productions 7 Comments [11/22/2015 3:27:19 PM]
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Quote# 114637

Could America Survive without Religion?

Can freedom survive in a society in which most citizens believe that human beings, who are supposed to have inalienable rights, are merely material beings inhabiting a universe of purely material and efficient causality?

virtue is one cultural condition of freedom, and it is necessary to the establishment and preservation of freedom’s other cultural conditions. Beyond that, there are other social goods—essential aspects of the common good of any political society—that require virtue among the people. When freedom degenerates into what the Founders called “license”—a counterfeit of true freedom—these goods, too, are placed in grave peril.

All of this may be common sense, but it was a sense that was by no means common when Adams and his fellow Founders launched what they themselves understood to be an “experiment” in republican government and ordered liberty. And it is a common sense that, as the conditions of contemporary intellectual life have made all too clear, can be forgotten. Indeed, it is a common sense that can be derided and mocked by people who regard themselves as too worldly, sophisticated, and enlightened to believe in things like morality and virtue. So in the face of modern nihilism (sometimes, paradoxically, masquerading as the most high-minded moralism) the defense of Adams’s proposition takes on a kind of urgency.

Reason itself, and experience, teach us not to pin our hopes on virtue ungrounded in, or unsupported by, faith in God. Washington, like Adams, believed that reason, given man’s fallen condition, was a bit too uncertain a trumpet, and that human passions of the sort that compete with virtues and lead us into error and sin are too powerful for reason to reliably prevail over them.

Washington and Adams were, to be sure, men of the Enlightenment—believers in the power of reason. And their Constitution was one that would test whether “societies of men are really capable or not of establishing good government from reflection and choice, or whether they are forever destined to depend for their political constitutions on accident and force,” to quote Hamilton’s famous line from the first Federalist Paper. What’s more, they certainly did not believe, as many ignorant people today seem to believe, that faith is the enemy of reason. But they did believe in the power and importance of faith and, indeed, in the harmony of faith and reason, when faith and reason are rightly understood.


Robert P. George, The public discourse 21 Comments [11/22/2015 9:40:20 AM]
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Submitted By: Mister Spak

Quote# 114636



Q. How do we know the earth is billions of years old?
A. Using radiometric dating.

Q. how do we know radiometric dating is accurate?
A. because the earth is billions of years old.
- The old circular reasoning.

Speciation? A fossil only shows some creature existed, it in no way shows it "evolved" into another life form let alone even procreated. Anatomical - nope, doesn't prove anything "evolved" either. Molecular? Ditto. One has to have faith that any evidence actually points to that.
If life didn't pop out of ooze, where did it come from in your religious worldview?
Strawman? -
"But according to you, ALL of biology goes out of the window."
"I guess you don't like chemistry either."
"Astronomy and physics go down in flames..."

As I already expected, you just don't like science when it is not in favour of your religious view. Which is about all of it.
My view, whatever it may be, is NOT taught at taxpayer expense in government schools as fact - the burden of proof rests solely on you and your religious belief. However I can say there is at least as much evidence of creation as evolutionism, they both require faith.


Oboehner, Christian News Network 17 Comments [11/22/2015 9:39:51 AM]
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Quote# 114635

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump, who has called for expanded surveillance of American Muslims, is refusing to rule out extreme measures that include warrantless searches or faith-based identification requirements.

"We're going to have to do things that we never did before. Some people are going to be upset about it, but I think that now everybody is feeling that security is going to rule,” Trump told Yahoo News in an interview published Thursday. “And certain things will be done that we never thought would happen in this country in terms of information and learning about the enemy. And so we’re going to have to do certain things that were frankly unthinkable a year ago.”

When pressed on whether these measures might include tracking Muslim Americans in a database or noting their religious affiliations on identification cards, Trump would not go into detail -- but did not reject the options.

“We’re going to have to — we’re going to have to look at a lot of things very closely,” Trump said. “We’re going to have to look at the mosques. We’re going to have to look very, very carefully.”

Donald Trump, Washington Post 29 Comments [11/22/2015 9:39:44 AM]
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Submitted By: Doubting Thomas

Quote# 114633

For the record, I have. let's just say the discussion got quite interesting.

Another friend is the headmistress of a private religious school in San Diego. She used to take her students to a large mosque there to discuss comparative religions. Well, one of her students flat out asked the imam if Islam taught that it was alright to kill him because he was Roman Catholic. The imam hemmed and hawed and then finally admitted that yes, the Koran stated that he could kill him, that it was permitted and even encouraged under the Koran. My friend no longer takes her students there. Period.

That wasn't an interpretation. He admitted that yes, the Koran flat out said that. Reading the Koran betrays a lot of these things: enslaving your enemy, taking his women and raping them (it does say that), etc. Read it. You'll see. These aren't interpretations. They are in black and white.

I also have to object to the moral relativism. Whether that was your intent or not, that's how I interpreted it. The New Testament doesn't encourage murder. Heck, Jesus looks like a '60s flower child compared to Mohammed. Neither do the teachings of Buddha. I could keep going. Neither are conquering religions. Islam is.

Aptivaboy, Starship Modeler Discussion Forums 23 Comments [11/22/2015 6:20:33 AM]
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Quote# 114632

I'm reminded that President Franklin D. Roosevelt felt compelled to sequester Japanese foreign nationals after the bombing of Pearl Harbor and it appears that the threat of harm to America from ISIS now is just as real and serious as that from our enemies then.

Roanoke, Va. mayor David Bowers, Rolling Stone 31 Comments [11/22/2015 6:20:24 AM]
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Submitted By: Doubting Thomas

Quote# 114631

Again, New Testament. I'll say it again, New Testament. Where did Jesus personally order the death and destruction of entire cities? Where did he personally command his followers to brutally kill those who disagreed with him?

New Testament.

You keep bringing up Old Testament fire and brimstone examples. However, the questions of whether Jesus was actually the Old Testament God, some aspect of him, or something else has vexed early Christian historians for along time. Those at the Council of Nicea couldn't quite agree. Just look up the "adoptionists" to see what I mean, and to get a whole new perspective on the, "Why have you forsaken me?" question.

On the other hand, Mohammad did just that, multiple times over. That's what makes islamic extremism so dangerous, and engenders attacks like those in Paris. Their "good book" says its okay to commit such acts. Heck, Mohammad committed such acts, so to say they're not right would be to go against the literal physical teachings and actions of Mohammad.

Aptivaboy, Starship Modeler Discussion Forums 34 Comments [11/22/2015 6:20:03 AM]
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Quote# 114630

The band Eagles of Death Metal had just started playing their song “Kiss The Devil” when terrorists burst into the Bataclan and started firing.


Evil is not a game. Evil is not to be messed with. If you call up the devil, sometimes, he will come.

Rod Dreher, American Conservative 16 Comments [11/22/2015 5:20:29 AM]
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Submitted By: Damned at Random

Quote# 114628

Folks,

One of the best explanations of the differences in Christianity's handling of Old Testament vs. New Testament was that Jesus marks the difference. It was his arrival and his "dying for your sins" which changed things. It was that assumption of those sins that allowed the New Testament to build on the good things of the Old Testament while setting aside the excesses of the Old.

You also would be very hard pressed to find any denomination of Christians which still practice only the Old Testament ways. Very hard pressed.

Plus, Western Civilization has figured out how to handle religion in the midst of a modern and otherwise secular society. It took a while for it to do so but we've done much better hewing to that "render unto Caesar what is Caesar's" principle. It also helps - a lot - that the main religion of Western Civilization, Christianity, is inherently a hierarchical thing. Thus, there is a central point from which reforms can be applied and adhered to.

Over the centuries this has caused schisms in the faith but, even there, the various Christian sects are also hierarchical. This also has helped to limit the "downsides" of Christianity.

There is not any such thing with Islam. Islam is inherently a non-hierarchical religion. Oh, it has "elders" and experts on interpreting Islamic doctrine and dogma but their authority is purely a voluntary thing. That is, any Muslim is free to adhere or ignore the fatwahs of any particular Islamic cleric.

That means that reform is an exceptionally difficult thing to apply in Islam.

Also, the Islamic world has never gone through its version of Christianity's "Wars of Reformation" which drove home the need for separation of church and state. Thus the secular and sectarian are still very much mixed in the Islamic world as opposed to officially, legally, and culturally separate as they are in the Christian world.

So, when you get some charismatic political leader in the Islamic world he's also able to wield the absolutism that comes with religion. We've learned in the West how nasty that can spin out of control. The Muslim world is continually proving that point.

Anyway, this is why it's an exercise in futility - at the least - to try picking out the nasty things in the Old Testament and attempting to use them to shut down criticisms of Islam. The two are not equal. The Old Testament is not in practice in Christianity - only the New Testament is. In the Islamic world, everything in the Koran is viewed as current and applicable.

As to how nice and un-radical are the Muslims some folks keep referring to - note their locations. The ones who are that way are almost all in the West. And they're here for a reason. Namely, their moderation would get them dead were they still back in the Middle East. And the longer they stay amongst the secular West the more moderate they get. With exceptions, sadly.

So pointing out how nice and un-radical those Western Muslims are is pretty much irrelevant when compared to how things are in the Middle East.

I also gotta say that too many people seem hell bent on ignoring the threat of Islamist jihadis. And they keep doing so on an appallingly regular basis.

Some new horrible Islamist attack is perpetrated by some new band of jihadis and their first reaction is to shrill their sorrow and weep for the slaughtered. This usually takes the form of quickly creating a heart rendering #Hastag to denote their feelings and then also generating some tear inducing image to overlay on their Facebook profile picture.

Within days - in some cases, hours - they'll then crank out the same tired old rationalizations to enable them to run away from actually dealing with the issue.

The latest terror attack by Islamist jihadist fanatics thus somehow becomes OUR fault. The attackers thus somehow become VICTIMS themselves. And we should refrain from using violence in our response as that will only create more terrorists in the future. Oh, and the self-professed Islamist jihadis who perpetrated the attack are not, in fact, Islamists at all.

It's like they're all reading from the same script or something.

This then allows them to blame the West and demand no real long term solution be meted out. And they then merrily go back to their normal lives happy in the knowledge that they are oh-so-morally superior for having such an "enlightened" world view.

Until the next horror rendered out by the next bunch of radical Islamist jihadis.

Madoc, Starship Modeler Discussion Forums 13 Comments [11/22/2015 5:20:09 AM]
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Quote# 114627

A man is walking along the river side in Appalachia when he stumbles across an old, oddly shaped oil lamp. He picks it up and sees that it was once new and shiny, so he rubs it with his hand and suddenly a genie appears. Being in Appalachia, he is dressed in bib overalls and has a scruffy John Deere cap on his head.

"I will give you three wishes," says the genie. He expects the "bumpkin" from the hills to come up with mundane and easy to accomplish orders.

The Appalachian thinks for a few moments and requests that all Islamics be returned to the Middle East immediately. The genie blinks in confusion, but obeys. Within a few minutes he has rounded up all the Islamics world wide and returned them to their various homelands.

"Now I want a 100 foot high, thirty foot thick wall built around the entire region," orders the Appalachian. The genie is shocked, but must do as he is told. And soon such a wall is magically constructed around the entire region. This effort pretty much wears the genie out and he is visibly tired, so the "hillbilly" allows him some time to rest.

"What is your final wish?" asks the genie warily, "You have put all believers of Islam back in their original countries and surrounded the region with a 100 foot high wall."

Smiling slyly, the Appalachia man replies, "Fill it with water."

Yeah, this is just a retelling of an old joke, and the Appalachian guy now has to slant drill under the whole mess to get the oil out.

Stumpy in Ahia back in my day...

mrstumpy, Starship Modeler Discussion Forums 26 Comments [11/22/2015 5:19:12 AM]
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Quote# 114626

God is not just a God of love. He’s also the God who arranges for kids to be molested, adults to be raped, and prisoners to be tortured. God is overseeing, directing and choosing all of the sick and twisted activity that goes on in this world. It’s very easy to stay in denial about this until God starts coming after you personally. But when you find yourself being singled out as His next torture victim, suddenly your view of Him is massively challenged. Every time you try to get up, He kicks you back down onto the ground. Every time you try to muster up some perseverance, He slams you with a new wave of pain. You feel like He’s got you in a nasty game of cat and mouse, and it doesn’t take long before you decide that you don’t want to play any more. But here’s where things take a dark turn because God won’t let you quit. You want to emotionally disengage, but God has taken that option off the table. You are going to feel as much as He wants you to feel. You are going to care as much as He wants you to care. It’s in these periods that we get a whole new realization of just how helpless we are to defend ourselves against Someone who controls every aspect of our beings. We like to think of ourselves as independent from God—getting to freely choose how we will respond to Him. But no, we are not independent, and freedom of choice is a gift that God can revoke at any time. During certain seasons of refinement, He forces us to suffer intensely without any avenue of escape. Psychological games can work against human abusers, because they can’t get inside of you and control the way that you internally react to them. But God is inside of you and He controls every aspect of your being. Your best defensive strategies crumble against Him. If He wants you to hate Him, He will drive you to it. If He wants you to think He’s a sadistic monster, He knows how to convince you. You cannot stop an all-powerful God from completely dismantling your trust in Him, and often this feels like exactly what He has set out to do during this phase of the valley experience.

So where’s the good news in all of this? You hurt like hell, you feel like your soul’s been gutted, and STILL God won’t give it a rest. What are your options? It’s no small wonder that many souls start entertaining thoughts of suicide during this period. After all, humans are frail creatures and we can only take so much. But of course if we kill ourselves, we’re just going to end up in a totally different dimension in which God has a whole new array of torture devices at His disposal. Let’s remember this is the Guy who came up with Hell. Do we really want to rush to a place whose biggest draw is supposed to be that we’re closer to God than we are on earth? Why would we want to do anything that will bring us closer to Someone who treats us like this?

An honest scrutiny of our options during this period reveals that we don’t have any. Once God sets His mind on destroying us, there is absolutely nothing we can do to stop Him. Christians think that they understand what “God is in control” means until they end up where you are now. Then suddenly a phrase that used to bring comfort suddenly becomes a terrifying trap. God IS in control, and His control is ABSOLUTE. Sure, you have made certain choices in your life which we like to label as “free.” But is anything really free in God’s universe? Of course not. The only options you’ll ever see in front of you are the few options that God wants you to have. When He doesn’t want you to have options, He takes them all away.

Anna Diehl, The Pursuit of God 20 Comments [11/22/2015 5:18:39 AM]
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Quote# 114625

I am surprised at the amount of people, that lower there common sense everyday. To believe almost everything science say, with no real physical proof. They throw a number, people flock like birds seeing seeds on ground. But the bible is accurate on everything it places out 100 percent. If you believe there is higher intelligence in space, that created you that are aliens, slap yourself. If you believe in alien beens from another planet came to earth, an are living among human's to plan invasion, who create this alien beens. How can you be Christian an belief in higher life form, than yourself. If God made us in his image, does that make any sense to you. Secular people, believe in other beens because they have brought into the lies, an not study scripture, or have any relationship with their creator. But people who self claim their Christians, must have never read Genesis 6. Do you think the fallen angels just disappeared. Have you forgot, that there is demon's on earth. I don't need to go into detail, I will just pray harder for everyone with a alien mind set. SMH!!!

Klitius Smooth, Christian News Network 12 Comments [11/22/2015 5:16:46 AM]
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Quote# 114624


I fear that the only way to defeat Islamic extremism in the West is for our atheistic society to convert back to Christianity

Spud, Religion and Ethics 17 Comments [11/22/2015 5:14:32 AM]
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Submitted By: Nearly Sane

Quote# 114623

In the absence of anyone knowing what cancer is I am more than free to draw the analogy between bullying, nervous waste and cancer...as revealed by a study of the Holy Bible and the opposing science of all oppression.

For evolution and cancer to have any line of logic it must be conceded that it is the expression of the living cells nervous behavioiur that is at the route of genetic change. Reaching out for various needs alters the genetic code as does selfishness, vanity, greed and lack of caring for our fellow man.

It makes sense then that reaching out for Jesus Christ who tells us all about this invisible emotional strength alters the genetic code by soothing, refreshing, upbuilding and caring for our spiritual health in the way Jesus tells us...and we are then at the starting point of a space-age science that will enable all the deservers of righteous hope can go forward towards all of Jesus' righteous promises of which, resurrection will play a crucial part..


NicholasMarks, Religion and Ethics 11 Comments [11/22/2015 5:14:25 AM]
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Submitted By: NearlySane

Quote# 114622

(arguing about whether the US was founded on Christianity - he was asked to present evidence)

A site? I'll do you one better than that.
How's every library everywhere. The history section.
Look for every book written about American history.
You're welcome little buddy! Happy reading.
He'll acquiesce he says! TO UNDENIABLE ESTABLISHED HISTORY!
:)
No worries, loather of truth that flies in the face of your nasty little revisionist version of history. You are not required to acquiesce.
In fact, your posts serve a very important purpose here at the Christian News. They reveal just how desperate, dishonest, and devious the liberal left is to distort known facts to further their disgraceful agenda.
Heck, you're probably repelling people away from your cause and towards Christianity, anti-abortion & traditional marriage and f amily.
Keep up the good work!

The Last Trump, Christian News Network 9 Comments [11/22/2015 5:13:48 AM]
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Quote# 114619

Extremist right-wing activist Theodore Shoebat posted a screed on his website yesterday telling people to stop praying in the wake of last week's terrorist attacks in Paris because "France Is A Godless Nation That Deserved To Be Attacked."

After declaring that France has a long history of killing Christians and therefore needed to be punished, Shoebat asserted that those who died while attending an Eagles of Death Metal concert were "worshippers of the devil" and got what they deserved:


"The French committed a terrorist attack against Christian Serbs, suffering under the Muslims, and now the liberals in France are suffering under the very people they helped. They need the suffering, God is allowing it to happen to get France to realize that the ways of their ancestors are superior to the secular trash that they have sucked up; the ways of Charles Martel, the ways of St. Bernard of Clairvaux, the ways of Godfrey of Bouillon, the ways of Tancred, the ways of Bohemond, the ways of Hugh I, the ways of St. Louis, the ways of all of those who fought for the supremacy of the Cross and the Christian Faith. These are the men who France should model themselves after, and not feminist garbage or the evil reprobates of Charlie Hebdo. Let France be again a flower and crown of Christendom; let it beam with the light of Christ, let its government put the modernists and sodomites to death and reward the righteous!

I see a lot of people are putting the flag of France on their profile pics. Is this going to be another little trend that everyone starts doing? Lets get one thing straight, Planned Parenthood slaughters more people in a day than what those terrorists ever did.

The Muslims have slaughtered thousands in Nigeria. The cartels in Mexico have butchered tens of thousands. In the San Fernando area in Tamaulipas a cartel slaughtered over 200 people, raping all of the women and cooking people in giant vats of acid, and laughing as they heard human beings scream in agony. Yet when people in France die, all of a sudden a trend is formed out of it. I guess French people are esteemed more worthy of our consideration than Africans, Mexicans, and unborn children. In the despotism of trends, human beings are a currency. In the exchange rate, one French is worth a thousand Mexicans.

The people who were killed in the rock concert, what were their last words? They were singing a song, “Kiss the devil”. They died, not as martyrs for Christ, but as worshippers of the devil. They were worshipping Satan, and we are suppose to feel sorry for them? They kissed the devil, and the devil came to them and slaughtered them. I say, to hell with them. The Lord works in mysterious ways.

The attacks in Paris is part of God’s Providence. Suffering is needed, in order to bring people to the One Who suffered for them
".


Theodore Shoebat, Right Wing Watch 13 Comments [11/22/2015 4:31:38 AM]
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Submitted By: Giveitaday

Quote# 114617

Ben Stein: Maybe Obama Hates America Because He's 'Part Black'

In an interview with Newsmax TV’s Steve Malzberg yesterday, conservative pundit Ben Stein called President Obama a “bad joke” and a “very real danger” to America, speculating that the president may have a “strong hatred of America” because “he’s part black.”

“I think the question is why is he so angry at America?” Stein said. “I don’t think there’s much question that he does not wish America well. He has a real strong hatred of America. Is it because he’s part black? I don’t know. Is it because his father was mistreated by the British in Kenya? I don’t know.”

Ben Stein, Right Wing Watch 28 Comments [11/21/2015 1:22:09 PM]
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Submitted By: Kuno

Quote# 114611

Southern Poverty LYING Center is a hate group. They are so biased that the FBI dumped them a valid source.
I'm quite sure Jesus would not approve of a group like them who has "hate maps" and spread lies like some of the things I have seen you post.

MamaBear, Christian News Network 13 Comments [11/21/2015 1:21:59 PM]
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Quote# 114609

The term "creationist" is commonly used as an anti-science label by proponents of evolutionism. Both "evolutionist" and "evolutionism" refer to scientists and others who accept that the atheistic-based religious belief that evolution is the best explanation for the development of life on the earth (otherwise known as over 99% of all scientists in relevant fields because if they don't subscribe they are blacklisted, marginalized, and often fired). To compound this stupidity some evolutionists even argue that "creation" is a fairytale religion taking away "sexual freedom" and other supposed benefits of present day society. This while believing in an exploding dot and random chance to arrive at all of the complexities known and unknown. All in all, this represents mainly a bunch of atheistic garbage.

Oboehner, Christian News Network 16 Comments [11/21/2015 10:41:29 AM]
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Quote# 114608

A Texas state legislator wants the U.S. to stop allowing Syrian refugees into the country. His reasoning: They might be able to buy guns in his state.

Rep. Tony Dale (R) made this argument in a television interview on Monday and in letters to Texas’ U.S. Sens. John Cornyn and Ted Cruz (R) and U.S. Reps. Michael McCaul and John Carter (R).

“While the Paris attackers used suicide vests and grenades,” Dale wrote, “it is clear that firearms also killed a large number of innocent victims. Can you imagine a scenario were [sic] a refugees [sic] is admitted to the United States, is provided with federal cash payments and other assistance, obtains a drivers license and purchases a weapon and executes an attack?” He urged the lawmakers to “do whatever you can to stop the [Syrian refugee] program.”

But Dale is one of the Texas legislature’s most fervent gun-rights advocates. Two weeks ago, he tweeted his National Rifle Association membership renewal. In accepting an “A” rating from the group and the Texas State Rifle Association’s PAC in 2012, he observed: “Perhaps no right is more fundamental than the right to keep and bear arms.” And his campaign website vows his fealty to the Second Amendment, saying it “isn’t just an archaic document,” a “guarantor of all of our other freedoms.” And he and his colleagues in the state legislature have blocked mandatory background checks for all gun purchases.

Tony Dale, Think Progress 18 Comments [11/21/2015 10:32:37 AM]
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Submitted By: Doubting Thomas

Quote# 114605

We are in a state of denial in America. Pastors tolerate women wearing pants, yet consider themselves non-worldly because they don't drink booze or live worse than they do. THEY ARE WORLDLY!!! May I say, if you abide in the Word of God, you cannot justify women wearing pants, tights or slacks.

If your church has a beautiful music program that sounds like the angels singing; but you have to go home to hear real Bible-preaching on the internet, because your pastor won't stand for God, you might as well stay home or find a genuine church! There's nothing worse than sitting in a pew of an Independent Baptist church, while they're telling Gingerbread Man stories with a spiritual twist for children, and you're sitting there asking yourself... “WHY AM I HERE?” What am I getting out of this? Why are they telling children's stories instead of preaching? This is pathetic! On Sunday's many churches have the Lord's supper, and PREACHING IS CANCELLED. Once a month they meet in each other's homes (called Watchcare meetings, or cell groups) for clapping and singing, and PREACHING IS CANCELLED! Is your so-called “church” like that? Is your church stuck in a comfort zone???

You can hate me for TELLING THE TRUTH, but I am on the Lord's side, and I know He is on my side for “HAVING DONE ALL TO STAND” (Ephesians 6:13). I'm so sick of Baptist women wearing tight pants. Shame on Bob Jones University (BJU) for allowing female students to wear pants. BJU is still a Christian university, no?

Shame on Moody Bible Institute for permitting their female students to wear pants. I was required to buy a Moody Bible Atlas while attending Hyles-Anderson College (for which I am eternally grateful). I drove down to the Moody bookstore in Chicago. As I looked around the store, some of their students were there, and the females all wore sexy pants. To my shock, I saw a male student with his thumb sticking through a hole in the back of a female student's pants. Yes, in her behind. This is my impression of Moody students until this day! As Dr. John R. Rice warns, if there is social drinking of alcohol, someone will eventually get drunk. And if female students are allowed to wear pants, there eventually will be sexual immorality, uncleanliness, lust and more immodesty. The problem is that our Bible institutions are following the sinful world afar off, when we ought to be obeying the Word of God.

The problem is that Americans want to decide what is right and wrong instead of the Holy Bible deciding. A century ago no one would have dared argue with me about the issue of women wearing pants, because only prostitutes showed their thighs in public. When a woman wears leggings and tights, she's showing her buttocks and thighs. Perhaps you say, “You have a dirty mind.” No, I have a man's mind. I never thought as a young man that I would one day be hated and attacked by professed Christians for preaching against counterfeit Bible versions, for preaching the truth that Lordship Salvation is of the Devil, for exposing Martin Luther for the unsaved heretic he was (he taught baptismal regeneration), for preaching against women wearing pants, for preaching against Walt Disney's sex perversion, for speaking up for God!!! Sadly, that is exactly what has happened!!! My only wrong is being RIGHT!

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Precious 38 Comments [11/21/2015 10:01:18 AM]
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Quote# 114603

Not long ago I proposed that decreasing birth rates in the Western world is happening due to some cosmic force that is seeking balance upon the universe. I missed the mark. The force is not something cosmic or metaphysical, but human. After studying the evidence, it’s clear that there is a conscious scheme to control the human population through both cultural and biological means, which allows the elite to sustain or elevate their power and wealth.

The first piece of evidence showing you have been primed to favor depopulation is that you most likely agree to at least two of the following three statements, even if you consider yourself “red pill”:

“Agendas or schemes by the global elite should be first considered a ‘conspiracy theory.'”
“There are too many people on planet Earth.”
“Needs of the environment must come before plans to increase human fertility.”

It’s not a coincidence that you are already on board with depopulation agenda, and if you live in a Westernized nation, you came to that conclusion “naturally” because since you were in grade school, you have been bombarded with messages about the dangers of over-population and the fragility of the environment. It turns out that all the progressive ideas being spread in the West have one thing in common: they all limit human reproduction.

Here is a short list of progressive causes that have percolated from intellectuals and later sponsored or hijacked by billionaire activists and major government institutions of the West.

1. Abortion is a bodily “choice,” not human murder. Result: it decreases population.

2. Birth control is a “choice” that allows women to better practice consumer lifestyles. Result: it decreases population.

3. Female empowerment in the form of feminism and egalitarianism pushes women into corporate work with the goal of delaying motherhood (or eliminating it outright). Result: it decreases reproduction and family formation.

4. Promotion of sterile human relationships in the form of homosexuality and transsexuality can’t possibly result in the creation of life. Result: it decreases population, reproduction, and traditional family formation.

5. Promotion of atheism, nihilism, individualism, and consumerism as suitable alternatives to traditional living via nuclear family units. Result: it decreases reproduction and traditional family formation.

6. The needs of the “environment” must be served before that of living humans. Result: it makes human guilty of family formation.

7. Massive waves of foreign immigrants are encouraged entry into Western nations to break bonds between tribe and neighbor that decrease notions of nationalism and patriotism while transferring fertility and economic resources from native people to foreigers. Result: it decreases relative population of native citizens.

All of the above decreases the reproductive rate, either directly through the killing of life, or indirectly by promoting guilt and alternative lifestyles that are incompatible with the creation of life. At the same time, immigrant populations are allowed to grow at a faster rate that the natives’ ability to reproduce.

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Most corporations, whose sole motivation is profit for shareholders, have for some odd reason pathological soft spots for women and the environment. It’s no coincidence that empowerment of women into becoming corporate workers and mindless consumers shatters their reproduction while promotion of environmental concerns makes you not only guilty to have a family of your own, but inclined to give unwavering support and authority to globalist agendas that limit population in the “privileged” Western world while at the same time supporting the breeding of third-world immigrants to displace them.

Men who have come to the conclusion of depopulation arrive at it from different paths. I saw it not through politics but through sex. I saw firsthand how the government, media, and universities are deliberately trying to promote mistrust between man and woman through feminism, the myth of rape culture, and social justice ideas that allow a divide and conquer strategy to pit the sexes against each other, making every woman see a man as a potential rapist and every man see a woman as someone who could ruin his life.

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The three main cultural mechanisms of reducing native populations is to program people to be concerned for women’s rights, third world immigration, and the environment. This is why nearly everyone on the left, including SJW’s, are fanatically supportive of all three. Leftists have been soundly convinced of issues that lead to the destruction of the family unit, the breakdown of their society’s social fabric, and their own voluntary sterilization. When you combine biological efforts that include birth control and abortion, you can see how Westerners have absolutely no chance of recovering their population compared to African, Middle Eastern, and Asian populations that do not currently face both cultural and biological bombs to reduce their birth rates, but will soon enough be targeted once the Westerners are sufficiently weakened and depopulation goals are met.

You probably now understand why when Brussels accepts a new country into the European Union, the first thing they do is mandate a gay pride parade on the capital streets, and why they immediately start screeching about the need for more women’s rights. This is the cultural attack that aims to limit the reproduction of that country so that their sovereignty can be easily dismantled within only two generations, an attack that begins even before they join the EU in order to “prove” they are ready to destroy themselves for the short term gain of big loans and free trade for that nation’s local elite.

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I’m coming to the conclusion that the only way to defeat the evils of liberalism, feminism, social justice, and progressivism is to have huge families and create tribes that are free-thinking, self-reliant, and, most importantly, armed. The men of the future who can resist totalitarianism and unjust government authority come from the wombs of the women living today, and those women must at some point be convinced that being stay-at-home mothers who raise strong men is superior to becoming zombie consumers who poison and sterilize their own bodies.

The last thing that those in power want is for women to pair-bond with independent, masculine men who do not need the state and who place more importance and loyalty in their blood relatives and nation than to leftist ideas, iPhones, and sports teams. In the past, my fantasies were about sleeping with as many women as possible so I can be the playboy that I saw in the Hollywood movies, but now they are about creating the sons who will one day lead their people and their nation. It’s squarely up to us to create the men who can eliminate the parasites that are successfully controlling modern humanity.

Roosh, Roosh V 17 Comments [11/21/2015 9:58:39 AM]
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