Quote# 114780

A meeting Tuesday evening to discuss a proposed Islamic mosque in Spotsylvania County quickly turned combative, with one man proclaiming, “Every Muslim is a terrorist.”
Samer Shalaby, a trustee of the Islamic Center of Fredericksburg, began what was advertised as a “community meeting” with a moment of silence for the victims of Friday’s terrorist attack in Paris. After the moment, a man said, “Amen and thank you!” and another person proclaimed “praise God!”
Shalaby then started a presentation on the Islamic Center’s plan to build an 8,000-square-foot mosque at the corner of Old Plank Road and Andora Drive. The mosque would move there from its current location on Harrison Road, across State Route 3 from Harrison Crossing.

But it didn’t take long before Shalaby was interrupted by a man who said, “Nobody, nobody, nobody wants your evil cult.”
Some people in the packed room at the Chancellor Community Center—including opponents of the project—expressed disagreement, while others clapped.

“I will do everything in my power to make sure this does not happen because you are terrorists,” the man continued. “Every one of you are terrorists.”

Unnamed Protester , Fredericksburg Freelance Star 11 Comments [11/26/2015 5:22:52 AM]
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Quote# 114779

Yeah, but what makes you think that pants are a man’s garment?"

Good question. I have a four part answer to this which demonstrates that pants always pertain to men, even today.

"Breeches" were an article of clothing designed by God for the priests who were all men. The word does not occur very often in scripture, but in every case it’s men’s apparel (Exodus 28:42, Leviticus 6:10, 16:4). According to my Hebrew lexicon, "breeches" means "trousers that extend to the knee, below the knee, or to the ankles." This would include pants, shorts, or culottes that really can not be considered cullottes but simply baggy shorts.
Until the advent of Hollywood and the movie screen, everyone (including lost people) knew that pants were men’s apparel and dresses were women’s apparel, and they dressed accordingly. Our culture’s (and sadly most churches’) acceptance of cross-dressing has resulted largely from the influence of television, the placement of women in the workforce, and the pressures of twentieth century feminism.
The universal symbol for designating a men’s bathroom is a stick figure wearing a pair of pants. The universal symbol for designating a woman’s bathroom is a stick figure wearing a dress. Coincidence? Hardly. Even our sinful society recognizes that there is a difference in a man’s and woman’s clothing.
Pants are a symbol of authority, as evidenced by the saying " I’m the one who wears the pants in the family." Sadly, most women might as well wear the pants, since they rule their homes anyway!

unknown, Mom of 9's place 25 Comments [11/26/2015 5:22:43 AM]
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Quote# 114778

Although I believe this Scripture is specifically referencing the Transvestite, what else can we learn here? Go to your local mall and watch the teenaged girls dressing and carrying themselves like gangster boys! Baggy jeans, t-shirts, short messy hair, pierced body parts! When we smudge the clear lines of the differences in the sexes, this is where we end up! Open a magazine that has women's business-wear in it. You'll see slightly feminized men's business suits. Even the shoes look like men's! If it's a business suit with a skirt, then the skirt is short and sexy and the rest looks manly! We have a wonderful medley of masculinity AND immodesty all packaged nicely for today´s modern career woman!

Stacy McDonald, Mom of 9's place 15 Comments [11/26/2015 5:22:28 AM]
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Quote# 114776

The article quotes me telling the photographer that he need not investigate the background of every wedding he performs, but they do not quote the next sentence: “But when there is an obvious deviation from the biblical reality, sacrifice the business for the conscience, your own and those of the ones in your orbit who would be confused.”

Here’s why this matters. The photographer has, in most cases, no ability or authority to find out the sorts of things a pastor or church elders would about a marrying couple. Most evangelical Christians, this one included, believe there are circumstances in which it is biblically moral for a divorced person to remarry. And all Christians—regardless of what we think about a church’s responsibility—think that marriages between otherwise qualified unbelieving men and women are good things, grounded in a creation ordinance.

It’s possible, of course, that the man and woman who’ve contracted with a wedding singer are just marrying to get a green card. It’s possible that they don’t plan to be faithful to one another. It’s possible that she’s already married to three other men. It’s possible that their love is just a reality show stunt. Or, to take us back to Corinth, it’s possible the blushing bride is the groom’s ex-stepmother. But unless the photographer has a reason to think this, he needn’t hire a private investigator or ask for birth certificates and court papers to make sure it’s not.

In the case of a same-sex marriage, the marriage is obviously wrong, in every case. There are no circumstances in which a man and a man or a woman and a woman can be morally involved in a sexual union (I have no reason to assume that Powers and Merritt disagree with apostolic Christianity on this point. If so, they should make that clear).

Now, the question at hand was one of pastoral counsel. How should a Christian think about his own decision about whether to use his creative gifts in a way that might, he believes, celebrate something he believes will result in eternal harm to others. I recognize there are some blurry lines at some of these points. But what isn’t blurry is the question of state coercion.

It’s of no harm to anyone else if Kirsten Powers and Jonathan Merritt (both of whom I love) think me to be a hypocrite. It’s fine for the Daily Beast to ridicule the sexual ethic of the historic Christian church, represented confessionally across the divide of Catholicism, Protestantism, and Orthodoxy. It’s quite another thing for the state to coerce persons through fines and penalties and licenses to use their creative gifts to support weddings they believe to be sinful.

That’s broader than just homosexuality. I don’t want wedding singers forced to use their lyrics and voices to tell us how great it is that Herod and Herodias or Henry VIII and fill-in-the-blank wife’s name are soul-mates.

This article maintains that there are no circumstances in which the Bible “calls Christians to deny services to people who are engaging in behavior they believe violates the teachings of Christianity regarding marriage.” Really?

Does that apply only to the morality of marriage? Should a Christian (or Muslim or Orthodox Jewish or feminist New Age) web designer be compelled to develop a site platform for a legal pornography company?

Now, again, we might debate the best ways to see to it that consciences are protected by law and in the courts. But acting as though those concerned about such things are the reincarnation of Jim Crow is unworthy of this discussion. Moreover, the implications for conscience protection are broad and long-lasting. This isn’t just a tit-for-tat Internet discussion. The lives and livelihoods of real people are on the line, all because they won’t render unto Caesar (or to Mammon) that which they believe belongs to God.

Russell Moore, Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission 11 Comments [11/26/2015 5:20:27 AM]
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Submitted By: AJ Williams

Quote# 114771

Let us answer the question, "How can I make a man of my boy?"

1. Dress him like a man. As soon as his hair gets a bit shaggy, have it cut! It is better that little Johnny start life being masculine than to retain those beautiful ringlets at the age of two. Cut off those ringlets and make him look like a man. From the very first time that he is old enough to wear clothes, dress him like a boy, cut his hair like a boy, and make sure he always looks like a man. Teach him to be around boys that dress like boys. Teach him it is not Scriptural for a boy or man to have long hair or effeminate tastes in clothing. Read I Corinthians 11:14.


Make him play with boys and with boys' toys and games. Let him play with guns, cars, baseballs, basketballs, and footballs. As soon as I could I taught my boy to play baseball and football. When he was about thirteen I bought him an air rifle. When he was fifteen I bought him a .22 rifle. Invariably, when someone admits to me he is a homosexual he relates that he played a lot with girls and participated in feminine activities.

Jack Hyles, JESUS IS SAVIOR 43 Comments [11/26/2015 5:18:33 AM]
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Quote# 114768

[From an article titled, "Three Media Lies About Syrian Refugees"]

1. The "Refugees" Are Not Fleeing Persecution, They're Welfare Migrants

[...]

Muslims are not fleeing to Europe because of religious persecution, but for economic reasons. They specifically seek out countries such as Germany and Sweden with generous welfare states.

The media loves offering false analogies to Jewish refugees during the Holocaust. But the Jews were a stateless people then. They had no country of their own to go to. Muslims have more countries than nearly every other religion on the planet. They choose to go to the wealthiest Western countries, rejecting Slovenia and Bulgaria for Germany and Sweden, because they want money and they want easy money.

Syrian Muslims are not refugees. They're migrants. Only Christians and other non-Muslims are refugees.

While Muslims have easy access to UN refugee camps in Muslim countries, Christians have trouble surviving there. But by outsourcing our immigration to the UN's refugee infrastructure, we abandon Christian refugees and instead take in Muslim welfare migrants. And that is truly shameful.

There is no reason for us to provide special privileges for Muslim economic migrants. [...] We already take in far more immigrants every year than we can afford.

It's time for our leaders to put our country and our people first.

2. Taking in "Refugees" Helps ISIS

[...]

ISIS not only embeds its terrorists as refugees in Europe, but it depends on European Muslims for recruits. Thousands of European Muslims ahve already left to join ISIS. Even those Syrian migrants that may be opposed to the group will have children that will provide a recruiting reserve for ISIS or other groups like it. Without the refugees and children of refugees in Europe from previous generations, ISIS might not even have enough fighters. And the refugees make it easier for ISIS to attack Europe.

Even those Syrians who will never support ISIS and whose children will never support it aid ISIS just by leaving the country. The large numbers of military age men are in part fleeing to avoid being drafted to fight ISIS. Potential ISIS opponents who leave Syria for permanent resettlement in Europe or America make it easier for the Islamic State to consolidate its control over the country.

Every time Europe or America takes in a military age Syrian as a refugee, they are helping ISIS by aiding deserters from the Syrian military, the Free Syrian Army and other groups that are fighting ISIS.

During WW2, we weren't encouraging British soldiers to run away and move to America. So why are human rights activists helping ISIS by encouraging Syrian deserters to flee the fight against ISIS?

3. Vetting Syrian Migrants is Impossible

Syria is a non-functioning state and a state sponsor of terror. We can't rely on it and that means we have to rely on information from UNHCR. The UN refugee agency is incompetent and overloaded. Its employees are corrupt and have a history of selling refugee cards to the highest bidder.

It's UNHCR that decides who qualifies for resettlement and any vetting we do afterward is cosmetic.

[...]

The only way to be absolutely sure is not to allow any potential terrorists into the country. It's a much safer bet than assuming that the same system that failed to stop the World Trade Center bombing, 9/11, the Boston Marathon bombing and other terrorist attacks will work exactly when we need it to.

Migrants arriving from terror states are unsafe at any degree of vetting. Our system has failed before and will fail again. We owe it to our children and our loved ones to protect them from the next attack.

And our leaders owe it to us to stop lying about the risks of Muslim migration to our families and our future.

Daniel Greenfield, Rapture Forums 21 Comments [11/26/2015 5:16:47 AM]
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Quote# 114767

[From a series of articles titled, "God, Guns and American in the End Time - Would Jesus Carry Concealed?"]

While the title may be jocular, the subject of gun control is a serious end of the age matter. Like many social issues that dominate the headlines in the run up to the rapture, calls for gun control following mass shootings are more than they appear. It isn't just about controlling guns to prevent mass shootings. It's about control, period.

Bible prophecy foretells that in the last days the world will accept a leader called the antichrist who will control the world based on a three-legged stool consisting of one world economy, one world government and one world religion. To accomplish this agenda there must first be control. In order to establish one world government it is necessary to control the populace. An unarmed populace is easy pickings for a dictator.

That is the ultimate goal of all gun control plans; to disarm freedom-loving Americans under the pretense of accomplishing a public good.

[...]

All of the elements necessary for the rise of the antichrist after the rapture and during the tribulation hinge on reducing or destroying Christian America. Here in the US many of our secular progressive/liberal leaders are doing their part in this evil control scheme by enacting regulations that will ultimately result in tyrannical authoritarian power over the masses. A major facet of this scheme is called "gun control." Its goal serves the purposes of Satan in the preparatory steps necessary to install to power, and eventually indwell the antichrist to rule a world lacking much of the restraining power on evil provided by the Holy Spirit after the removal of Christians during the rapture.

[...]

Because America remains a Christian nation containing a majority of freedom-loving citizens, at least until the rapture, Satan is forced to undermine that base of support using a two-pronged attack. First, he influences mentally unbalanced individuals to commit mass shootings that play into the hands of liberals who rush to decry the slaughter by blaming the instrumentality of the crime, firearms, while expressing nary a whisper about the personal responsibility of the killers.

It is important to remember that due to Satan's deceit, every step necessary to usher in the one world government of the antichrist will appear to be logical, wise and irresistible. That is why gun control is so appealing to many of those lacking in spiritual discernment amid a world awash in wanton and unrepentant sin. The second prong works hand in hand with the first. Satan wields one of his most powerful weapons; the propagandists of the secular progressive elites dominating the mainstream media (MSM) to demonize gun owners.

Dean T. Olson, Rapture Forums 19 Comments [11/26/2015 4:57:04 AM]
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Quote# 114766

The reliable predictability of material behaviour at the atomic level is apparently dependent on the probability of certain quantum events taking place at a specific place and time.  This led to Enstein's famous quote -  "God does not play dice".  I would suggest that the cause of these quantum events is not random, but defined by an undetectable source which is specifically induced to give reality the nature we perceive.  In other words, most quantum events are controlled by God's will.  And He may have delegated other quantum events to be controlled by other sources of free will.

Alan Burns, Religion and Ethics 14 Comments [11/26/2015 4:56:57 AM]
Fundie Index: 11
Submitted By: Nearly Sane

Quote# 114765

I couldn't get all the components for my experiment in my lab. so we will have to work with our imaginations but using the Holy Bible and modern science as our tram-lines to keep us on target.

Notice that within our cloud of dark matter we have a huge imploding hole surrounded by masses of this dense material which was now being sucked into this spinning black-hole, filling it and overfilling it, spewing out massless stars, one after the other  whilst, simultaneously, massive shock-waves were emanating out from this crash-site which was passing through every other cloud in the universe whipping them up into a spinning frenzy, and, at the same time, blowing them away from the source so that an expanding universes came into being...and why this was taking place the spinning massless galaxy clouds were turning into spiralling hurricanes, sucking into the eye of their storms, massless solar balls of energy, each one spiralling up their individual hurricane columns before being centrifugally discharged from the rim of this hurricane's storm force out into the surrounding space taking up the form of a spiralling galaxy. 

I cannot think of a better explanation for the universe we see before us today...and we haven't yet, made a single atom ...but we will...and it is all possible because the Holy Bible and modern science concur...There is a superabundant, invisible, almost undetectable, dynamic energy, out there in the great abyss we call space.


NicholasMarks, Religion and Ethics 13 Comments [11/26/2015 4:56:41 AM]
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Submitted By: Nearly Sane

Quote# 114763

[On the 2015 Paris attacks:]

I am nauseated by the candlelight vigils, buildings lit-up in the colors of France, and all the misty-eyed speeches by celebrities. Here is a useful list to help our liberal friends to identify the problem:

The Hebdo attack were Muslims.
The Shoe Bomber was a Muslim.
The Beltway Snipers were Muslims.
The Fort Hood Shooter was a Muslim.
The underwear Bomber was a Muslim.
The U-S.S. Cole Bombers were Muslims.
The Madrid Train Bombers were Muslims.
The Bafi Nightclub Bombers were Muslims.
The London Subway Bombers were Muslims.
The Moscow Theatre Attackers were Muslims.
The Boston Marathon Bombers were Muslims.
The Pan-Am flight #93 Bombers were Muslims.
The Air France Entebbe Hijackers were Muslims.
The Iranian Embassy Takeover, was by Muslims.
The Beirut U.S. Embassy bombers were Muslims.
The Libyan U.S. Embassy Attack was by Muslims.
The Buenos Aires Suicide Bombers were Muslims.
The Israeli Olympic Team Attackers were Muslims.
The Kenyan U.S, Embassy Bombers were Muslims.
The Saudi, Khobar Towers Bombers were Muslims.
The Beirut Marine Barracks bombers were Muslims.
The Besian Russian School Attackers were Muslims.
The first World Trade Center Bombers were Muslims.
The Bombay & Mumbai India Attackers were Muslims.
The Achille Lauro Cruise Ship Hijackers were Muslims.
The September 11th 2001 Airline Hijackers were Muslims.

French President Hollande declared a state of emergency and put the entire city of Paris under lockdown. This has been the first mandatory curfew in Paris since 1944. The reason why all citizens of Paris were made prisoners in their own homes is because of an inability to confront the root cause of the problem - Islam.

Terror experts were quick to talk about new security measures for Paris, but you can't put a net over the whole city. Israel struggled with Palestinian terror in the 2000s, and found the only solution was to isolate the Palestinians from accessing her territory.

France is already overrun with Muslims. Around 10 percent of the population are followers of the Islamic faith. Before the French can even talk about kicking some of the more extreme Muslims out of the country, they need to stop new ones from pouring across their border.

Islam should be a pariah religion. Since it was given a pass after 9/11 and a long list of other terrorist attacks, the Imams of this faith can smile and say, "Don't look at me."

[...]

One possible explanation for why Islam seems to be given a free hand to cause havoc in the world is that the stage is being set for the Antichrist to deal with them. Being the ultimate problem solver, he may win the favor of Europeans by declaring war on Islamic terror.

Todd Strandberg, Rapture Forums 23 Comments [11/25/2015 7:32:36 PM]
Fundie Index: 9

Quote# 114762

[On ISIS:]

If we don't hit the terrorists where they live, they will kill us where we live. That is the lesson of 9/11. It's the lesson of the latest Paris attacks. It's the lesson of every Islamic terrorist attack.

We can bomb them in Iraq and Syria, in Afghanistan and Pakistan, or we can be murdered by them in New York, Paris, Los Angeles and London.

Obama officials said that they didn't want to hit ISIS with "shock-and-awe" style bombings. If they had done that, the Paris attacks might have been prevented.

Had ISIS been hit hard, some of the fighters who made their way to France might have been killed. Or they might have been needed back in Syria and Iraq. Or they might have abandoned ship once the Caliphate failed and the Islamic State's pretenses of theological supremacy were exposed by its collapse.

Instead of fighting ISIS, Obama has faked a fight, concentrating on drone strikes and hashtags, and doctoring intelligence to make it look like these tactics are working.

[...]

We're not going to defeat ISIS with hashtags. We're not going to defeat it by calling it Daesh. We are not going to defeat it by taking out one of its leaders every few months.

We can only defeat the Caliphate by destroying it.

Obama had told the Pentagon that we can't defeat ISIS with guns. But ISIS had no problem massacring almost a hundred people in Paris with guns. We don't need "better ideas," as Obama suggested, to beat ISIS. Our civilization is already a better idea. It just needs defending from the barbarians at the gates.

[...]

The free world needs a Caliphate Doctrine. It must state clearly and unambiguously that any attempt to build a Caliphate, to subjugate territories to Islamic law with all its accompanying barbarism, and to demand the surrender of the rest of humanity through terror, will be met with utter destruction.

Not drone strikes. Not hashtags. Not calls for moderate Islam. Not even the "shock-and-awe" that Obama officials nervously disavowed. But the destruction that Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan faced after they attempted to impose the rule of a master race and ideology on the world through terror.

If we do not want another century of fear, then we must make the Islamic State into an example.

Daniel Greenfield, Frontpage Mag 16 Comments [11/25/2015 7:32:25 PM]
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Quote# 114761

[On the 2015 Paris attacks, all of which were likely perpetrated by European nationals:]

Before the man carrying a passport in the name of Ahmed Almohammad blew himself up at France's national soccer stadium, he came on a boat from Turkey with hundreds of refugees. He passed through Greece, Serbia and Croatia, along with countless other migrants, accompanied no doubt by journalists and human rights workers eager to document the plight of the "refugees." [...] His passport may have been real. It may have been fake. No one was likely to notice. The name on his passport was not on an Interpol warrant. And so he was allowed into the heart of Europe.

[...]

Any talk of vetting is nothing more than plausible deniability. Unless a terrorist is already in our database, vetting him is a lost cause. Our system couldn't handle the World Trade Center bombers or the 9/11 hijackers and they came from functional countries that weren't in the middle of a civil war.

We are not going to be able to vet tens of thousands of people who claim they come from Syria, who have fake passports or who plead that they lost their passports at sea, whose names can be rendered in enough ways to give even a linguist a headache and who will get access to the United States long enough for them to disappear even if we did eventually turn up something on them.

[...]

ISIS may have carried out the brutal massacres in Paris, but Hollande, Merkel and the other friends of the refugees helped make it happen. And they want to help make it happen around the world.

The migrant crisis is an invasion. The bodies in Paris could just as easily have been stacked up in any country that was foolish and feckless enough to open the door to ISIS by taking in "refugees".

If Obama and Kerry succeed in their plan to bring tens of thousands of Syrian migrants to America, the next brutal massacre might not happen in Paris. It might happen in one of our cities instead.

Daniel Greenfield, Frontpage Mag 9 Comments [11/25/2015 7:32:17 PM]
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Quote# 114760

The Secular Humanist Afterlife

Secular humanism comes up short as a religion because its beginning is unconvincing and its ending unappealing.

"In the beginning was the Bib Bang, and for no reason at all everything just started up, and by pure chance, non-living dust and chemicals came alive and finally evolved into Hillary Clinton..." That's somewhat less inspiring, and falls far short of St. John's "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God..."

But the end of humanist theology is worse than the beginning: you just die, fizzle out, kaput, that's it. So if you had a hard life, too bad. There's no God to give you justice, no God to show you mercy, no Heavenly Father to bind up your wounds and wipe away your tears.

In between the iffy beginning and the worms'-meat ending, humanists have worked hard to fill up their religion's middle.

They have their holy scriptures, written by Marx and Darwin and Freud et al, which may not be disbelieved. They have several orders of priesthood-scientists, academics, public school teachers, feminists, homosexuals, and progressive politicians, whose word is law. They have an awesome idol - the ever-expanding, all-devouring, freedom-eating, wealth-consuming State, whose destiny it is to rule the world. And in Global Warming they have their own End Times scenario.

They have their own sacraments, including human sacrifice. Abortion: "I now consider abortion to be a major blessing, and to be a sacrament in the hands of women," as one feminist put it. You can even have Native American flute music with your abortion - how cool is that?

Lee Duigon, Barb Wire 18 Comments [11/25/2015 7:32:09 PM]
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Quote# 114759

For Christians who study Bible prophecy, interfaith and ecumenism are ominous signs of the nearness of the coming time of Great Tribulation spelled out in the last book of the Bible. This seven-year period will be a time of judgment on the earth when the Antichrist will rise to power allied with a global church the Apostle John identifies as the Mother of Harlots.

It is interesting that the Roman Catholic Church calls herself the "Mother Church." The question needs to be asked, if she is a "Mother" than who are the "Harlots" she gave birth to?

[...]

If people can be convinced that all religions are equal, all people are brothers and sisters, the Earth is sacred, and inclusiveness of all and any beliefs is honorable, then when the man speaking those swelling words arrives, he will be embraced. The only obstacles are Bible-believing Christians and Islamic suicide bombers. Those obstacles to progress have to go.

Jackie Alnor, Scattered Sheep 13 Comments [11/25/2015 7:32:01 PM]
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Quote# 114758

I now know what happened at Charisma and I will not be coming back. Read my email to and from them here;

On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 4:21 PM,

Charisma, can I (afchief) have permission to post again?

Hello afchief

We had removed your account in an attempt to try and bring some civility back into our comments section. You were only one of multiple people removed in this effort. It worked. Although there is still bickering and disagreeable people the level of vitriol is down and the number of conversions that remain civil through to the end is up significantly.

You had a tendency to pick fights, inject yourself into other people's conversions (degrading them into arguments) and belittling or mock people who you didn't agree with. You were almost always in "attack mode" and that's not what we're looking for. If you only posted once in while we might have been able to ignore it but you were so prolific in your posting that you often seemed to take over the comments section of some articles, driving away people who just wanted to have a real or civil conversion without being attacked.

The thought of restoring your access makes me (and the other moderators) nervous. We don't want to give up the gains we've made our community. We are developing other steps to further stress the need for civility.

This is one of those situations where if we were to restore your access it would require that you make a commitment to change how you act and treat others on our sites. This would require not only that you don't do what you did before but also that you don't let others drag you down (ie, if someone you disagree with tries to pick a fight, you don't bite, you take the higher ground, even if that means ending/ignoring the conversion). Only you know if you can make that sort of change and only you can decide if it's worth it.

Drew Glaser
Internet Manager
Charisma Media

On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 6:28 PM,

Civility? You mean being politically correct? Was Jesus civil when He said "You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father." John 8:44? Was Jesus civil when He said “ “But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, because you shut off the kingdom of heaven from people; for you do not enter in yourselves, nor do you allow those who are entering to go in. 14 Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, because you devour widows’ houses, and for a pretense you make long prayers; therefore you will receive greater condemnation.

Does speaking the truth scare you Mr Glaser? Apparently so! You don't want lies confronted. You do not want sin confronted. You want to be politically correct. How sad! Paul said in Ephesians 5:11 Do not participate in the unfruitful deeds of darkness, but instead even expose them; I guess to be "civil" we are to embrace, encourage, and love those who practice such fruitless acts and not expose them. Is this what Charisma is all about?

I was told a long time ago by several Spirit filled Christians to get off of your website because of false doctrine. I truly now see why.

In closing do not restore my account.

In Jesus, afchief

Hello afchief,

Your reply is a perfect example of why you're not mature enough to return to our community. I'll gladly keep you banned. I hope that one day you'll find peace.

Drew Glaser
Internet Manager
Charisma Media

Mature enough? Wow! Your site truly has become politically correct and afraid of the truth. The proof is in the pudding by who you allow to post on your site. Having people like Mensa Member who has changed his name several times on your site and claims to be a Christian but lies continuously shows me that you have a double standard.

Last month myself, Ax2root, Adam in Christ and another poster met on another site and discussed the reasons we were banned. We came to the conclusion that we are the few that do not separate our faith from anything and are not afraid to speak out about it. It is quite apparent Mr Glaser you are. You and your staff are more concerned about being politically correct then standing for truth and righteousness as evident of your previous email. Sad!

No I have no desire to come back to a website where you are not allowed to speak truth. Where you are not allowed confront lies and sin. It is quite apparent we live in a time where deception has never been more prevalent.

In Jesus, afchief

afchief, End of the American Dream  38 Comments [11/25/2015 4:01:58 AM]
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Quote# 114757

Ok, let's just think about this. A few billion years ago our planet came into existence by a big bang. Our planet happened to be within inches of burning or freezing if it moved to or away from the sun. Next, a cell, a piece of bacteria or whatever just formed out of nowhere. It had perfect conditions to grow. No heat, cold. snow. It had air and everything it needed to grow. After millions of years it grew into a monkey and other thousands of species whom were ALL asexual. Now ALL due to random chance a female and male monkey formed at the same time. Each developing reproduction systems that were made to come together.

This was all by random chance????? Do you realize how DUMB and idiotic this sounds???? That two animals formed at the SAME time to reproduce????? Oh wait, I know they were asexual and the female popped out a male and female to mate. Oh brother, what a lie!!!!!

It takes MORE faith to believe in this garbage than to believe there is a creator who created us all.

afchief, Christian News Network 36 Comments [11/25/2015 4:00:46 AM]
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Quote# 114756

The deterioration of family values R2 Sine World War 2 when women were encouraged to join the work force en mass, to replace the men who went to war and keep the economy and war effort going. There has been a trend where a mother was not at home to take care of her children, monitor their behavior, help with the homework and discipline when and where necessary. The advancement in technology has harmed family values. The Media and Television has totally destroyed any comprehension of values in our society. The lack of discipline and total disregard for authority and respect is clear to anyone who has watched the past 50 years and seen our society's values deteriorate.

[...]

In today's society a teacher is not permitted to discipline a student, the teachers will be sued, not to mention that teachers fears for their safety. Parents in today's society are also restricted as to how to discipline their children, in many cases parents are getting sued. In many cases children would never dream of treating their parents with such disrespect 50 years ago. Today some parents are afraid of their own children.

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The family is the most basic unit of any society or nation. Without healthy, functioning families, a culture cannot survive. God created marriage as the unity of one man and one woman. This has been both the legal and traditional understanding of a marriage - literally - for millennia, since Eden. Sadly, many radical activist groups in the U.S. are attempting to twist the law to change the definition of marriage and the family to include same-sex "marriage," polygamy, polyamory, and other structures. These groups scoff at the idea that there is any fixed or known set of values or beliefs is generally good for families or culture. We should fight against numerous attacks on marriage and family values, including efforts to:

• Allow children unlimited access to pornography over the Internet in public libraries

• Allow those engaging in homosexual behavior to have preference to adopt children and be foster parents

• Allow those engaging in homosexual behavior to serve openly in the military

• Expose children to explicit sex education materials contrary to parental approval

• Deny parents the right the raise their children before God as they see fit

jay draiman, Aish.com 24 Comments [11/25/2015 4:00:25 AM]
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Quote# 114755

Today, the word “Patriarchy” is a dirty word. We hear from the left that it is oppressive; we hear from the right that it is abused. There are websites across the internet dedicated to the downfall of patriarchy. Funny thing, normally, what the world sees as bad, the Bible sees as good. We see in the Bible that Patriarchy is sprinkled throughout. I would like to show what true Patriarchy is and why so many men and women are actually happier in a patriarchal family; the worldview that so many disdain.

“There has been 6% increase in women staying at home in the past decade as women realize what is more important; family.”

Patriarchy, or simply defined as, “Father Ruled,” is scattered all throughout the Bible. We see in Genesis that God made man first and later created a woman because, “It was not good that man was alone.” God made a beautiful woman to be a helper to the man. This role was designed and instituted by God to display an attribute of Himself. The Hebrew word for “helper” is only used again throughout the Bible in describing God Himself to His people. This is how high and lofty a woman’s calling is. When the woman sinned, God went to Adam first because the Man was the one who was primarily responsible. We see Adam, the man, being the ruler of his house. This is the quintessential prototype of the family.

Moving past creation, the use of covenants and genealogies were centered around the Men/Heads of Households (Gen 35, 36, Ex 6, 1 Chron 4, Matt 1). Yes, we also see that there are women listed in these genealogies (Tamar, Rahab, Ruth, Uriah’s wife [Bathsheba], and Mary to name a few). However, everyone knows that the exception to the rule, proves there is a rule. This pattern clearly shows that familial lines transferred through the males. God established his covenants through male representatives; it was to men and their offspring. We struggle thinking this is unfair; it is important to note that this is not unfair. God is not being unjust by putting men in charge. God is not a tyrannical dictator nor is His design for this—because we are created in His image (Gen 1:26-27). If you think God is unfair, just remember, what is fair, is for God to annihilate all mankind, for we have sinned before His Holiness. Every breath we have been given is a gift; this unfairness mentality that is pervasive in this culture is childish, immature, arrogant, and sinful. Rejoice that life isn’t fair!

“Men are 40% more likely than women to be the victim of a violent crime. Patriarchy abuses women is a lie; rape culture is a lie.”

Under a patriarchal family; all of a woman’s needs are taken care of. She is freed up to take care of her precious little ones, instead of needing to worry about where the next meal will come from. When the father dies, the eldest son (typically) takes over his father’s responsibilities. This would have included caring for and protecting, his mother, brothers, sisters, and their families, as well as managing the father’s estate and possessions. In a loving Patriarchal family, the women of the family were under the caring protection of the head of the household. These women were under their responsibility; if there was abuse, the man was ultimately held responsible before God.

Men were designed to be rulers over their households. Women were designed to be man’s helper as he takes dominion. When man fulfills his role, he is satisfied; when woman fulfills her role, she is satisfied. Issues arise when the man or woman is fighting their role; men shirking responsibility or women trying to usurp man’s authority. Because of sin and this cursed world, we have people head butting, creating abuse and oppression. The 21st century mindset is the opposite of this way of living.

The essence of Patriarchy is Biblical. When it is pure and loving, women flourish. A woman is most happy when she is submitting to God, which means submission to his design. Patriarchy is the familial system that is interwoven throughout the entire Bible. It brings purpose to both men and to women. It is a beautiful picture of Christ and His Church—His Bride. What better example to give our children is there than that?



Lilyofthevallies, disciples perspective  19 Comments [11/25/2015 3:59:56 AM]
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Submitted By: undie not fundie

Quote# 114750

At least ISIS got respectable end goal they jus want to re-establish the Muslim caliphate that ruled peacefully in that region for centuries

Tuge, Twitter 24 Comments [11/25/2015 3:53:31 AM]
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Quote# 114749

Everything I say is built on top of modern science so that every science beneath it is supported by it, but it also exposes the fact that the Holy Bible is brought to us from the same route as this unifying science which tells us how the universe came into existence, how atoms and atomic forces were born, how gravity works and how electromagnetism is the kicking force that is exposed when we jiggle around with these dimensional forces that hold the atomic particles together..i.e. the Higgs (imploding force) bosun.

So…via the Holy Bible and in particular the Gospels we are guided into this science via the most important aspect that it offers us. The emotional state of the human being…What drives it and how it can work without injury and how it can recover from injury to such an extent that everlasting life becomes possible…all achievable by the taking in of the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ.

NicholasMarks, Religion and Ethics 15 Comments [11/25/2015 3:53:22 AM]
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Quote# 114748

When Did the Roman Catholic Church Become So Different?
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After studying European history, nostalgically rereading LOTR, and listening attentively to the stories of my Mexican grandparents, I miss the RC Church of yesterday. It seems like the Church today is a sad shadow of its former self. I miss when the Church wasn't afraid to rightfully condemn Protestants as heretics destined for Hell, smash heresy, advise kings and rulers, call for the taking up of arms when the time was necessary, and all around keep Western Europe in line. I miss when it actually had liturgical integrity and it was TLM or bust.

Being a college student today and seeing just how screwed up the West has become with progressivism, political correctness, and the whole homosexuality/feminism abominations that have all but destroyed our Christian heritage, I feel like the one entity that should be doing something about this--the RC Church--is merely going along with it for the sake of political correctness.

Christianity is no longer a man's religion. What used to be chivalrous, masculine, and patriarchal religion has now allowed itself to become a politically correct, feminized joke for beta males and wusses. The Church that used to be about integrity, honor, and tradition has now allowed Europe to become a secular progressive sh*thole on the verge of becoming an Islamic ghetto.

As a very reactionary, traditional Mexican guy, I don't like this one bit. Instead of changing the world, the RC Church has changed itself to accommodate the world.

Anonymous, Yahoo! answers 26 Comments [11/25/2015 3:52:34 AM]
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Submitted By: zipperback

Quote# 114727

Female activists in Myanmar, also known as Burma, say they’re receiving death threats from extremist Buddhist monks with the Ma Ba Tha, the nationalist group that controls much of the country. The activists are attemping to teach fellow Burmese women about sexual health, an effort that’s turning them into enemies of the state.

The Guardian has a fascinating story today about one piece of the struggle for women’s rights in Myanmar: the fact that Burmese has no word for “vagina.” That makes it extraordinarily difficult to communicate about women’s health issues or articulate if something is wrong. A local paper that recently printed the word “vagina” in English also faced a barrage of angry emails. There are also powerful social taboos dictating that anything having to do with a woman’s genitalia is unclean:

Garments that have come into close contact with a woman’s lower half, such as the traditional htamein (a wraparound skirt worn by most women in Myanmar) or underpants, are considered unclean, even after they have been washed. They are also believed to have the ability to rob men of their hpoun – a concept that could roughly be translated as "masculine power".

As such, it is taught that these items of clothing should never be hung in a place where men will have to walk under them. It is also unacceptable to wash men’s clothes in the same bowl or machine as women’s garments, for fear of contamination or loss of power.

"It’s not right that people should tell us we’re dirty just because we menstruate. It is discrimination,” says 19-year-old Thu Thu, an activist from Shan state.

Activist organizations are increasingly running workshops to teach women about sexual and reproductive health and women’s rights. That’s drawn the ire of the Ma Ba Tha, they told the Guardian; the organization is known in English as the Committee to Protect Race and Religion. The Ma Ba Tha has broad political and social control in the country: they recently backed a law preventing Buddhist women from marrying non-Buddhist men. It was one of four laws dealing with “race and religion” protection; all of them are seen as efforts to crack down on both women’s rights and to discriminate against the Rohingya, the country’s small Muslim minority.

One activist who asked not to be named told the Guardian that she and other people she works with have found their “names, photos and phone numbers” put on posters and displayed at Ma Ba Tha monasteries. They’ve received death threats, intimidation and public humiliation from the monks, she says. Human Rights Watch recently reported that supporters of the Ma Ba Tha recently held a massive, jubilant rally, celebrating the passage of the race and religion laws and signaling the monks’ growing power.

Ma Ba That monks, United Humanists 50 Comments [11/24/2015 3:47:57 AM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 114726

If you walk around wearing miniskirts displaying your thighs and inviting men to drool over you, then you want to complain when you have been raped? It’s unfortunate because it will be your fault.

Grace Mugabe, Eyewitness News 51 Comments [11/24/2015 3:47:43 AM]
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Submitted By: Yossarian Lives

Quote# 114725

The Real Mythbusters

An article on Cincinnati.com (AiG and the Creation Museum are located near Cincinnati) this week discussed the visit by the television series stars Adam Savage and Jamie Hyneman of Mythbusters.

The article commenced by discussing the Creation Museum:

The topic of Greater Cincinnati’s very own Creation Museum probably won’t come up during the local stop of “MythBusters,” because, as Adam Savage puts it, it’s not even wrong.

Savage explains this later in an interview with a reporter stating,

Q: Are you going to visit the Creation Museum while you’re in town?

A: Ah! I haven’t considered it, but holy [vulgar word], what an idea. I had forgotten it was there, but my goodness, I don’t think I could pass that up.

Q: Do you have a conflicted feeling about contributing money to the museum by paying the price of admission?

A: The conflicted feeling I have is, there is a scientific term which I really like that is “not even wrong,” and these are ideas that are so far off the mark they’re not even worth discussing. I’m worried about participating or giving oxygen to ideas that are not even wrong lest I lend them a credibility as something that’s debatable.

Q: So if you were to go to the museum, you wouldn’t talk about the experience on stage, because that would be giving it oxygen, as you say.

A: My particular bailiwick isn’t to be a provocateur in that regard. Again, part of it is not giving oxygen to ideas that I don’t think are very debatable. I have empathy for people. And I don’t feel like going up on stage and telling some members of the audience, “By the way, I think you’re idiots.” I tend to stay away from that sort of polemicism. At the same time, if I’m asked, I’ll respond to questions directly. I’ve never had a problem doing that on stage.

Q: What would the reason be for going to the museum, if it’s not for getting material for the stage show?

A: For me it’s sort of like slowing down and looking at the car accident.

Well, I’ve got news for Adam Savage: the real myth busters are found at the Creation Museum. If Savage came to the Creation Museum, he would meet some academics and scientists who powerfully bust the myth of molecules-to-man evolution:

Dr. Nathaniel Jeanson, PhD in cell and developmental biology from Harvard University, who was actively involved in adult stem cell research and has been published in several peer-reviewed secular journals in this field.

Dr. Andrew Snelling, PhD in geology from the University of Sydney, who was a researcher and editor on the Radioisotopes and the Age of the Earth (RATE) project from 1997–2007, and has published many articles in various peer-reviewed scientific journals.

Dr. Georgia Purdom, PhD in molecular genetics from Ohio State University, who was a biology professor at Mount Vernon Nazarene University, has published in several peer-reviewed journals, and is co-founder of the Microbe Forum.

Dr. David Menton, PhD in cell biology from Brown University, who was tenured at Washington University, served as the histology consultant for five editions of Stedman’s Medical Dictionary, and was a guest lecturer in histology at Stanford University Medical School.

Dr. Tommy Mitchell, who earned his MD from Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, has been a medical doctor since 1987, and is a Fellow of the American College of Physicians.

Dr. Terry Mortenson, PhD in the history of geology from Coventry University in England and MDiv in systematic theology from Trinity Evangelical Divinity School in Illinois, has served as seminary and research staff for Campus Crusade for Christ (CRU) teaching across Europe, and is still an active member of the Evangelical Theological Society.

Dr. Elizabeth Mitchell, who earned an MD from Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, is a retired obstetrician who earned board certification and fellowship in the American College of Obstetrics and Gynecology, and now writes extensively for AiG.

Dr. Danny Faulkner, PhD in astronomy from Indiana University, was a professor at the University of South Carolina Lancaster for 26 years, is a member of the Creation Research Society, operates the observatory and planetarium at the Creation Museum, and has written hundreds of papers in astronomy and astrophysics journals.

I challenge Adam Savage to make the short drive from Cincinnati and meet some true myth busters at the Creation Museum and see how his beliefs in evolution stand up against real observational science. In meeting with these academics and scientists, and touring our world-class museum with its stunning science exhibits, he will discover that evolution is a myth and gets busted for what it is—and he will learn the truth about the God who created him, that he has a sin nature, and is in need of salvation. Our burden is to reach Adam Savage with the saving message of the gospel and help him understand that observational science confirms that the Bible is the true history book of the universe.

Thanks for stopping by and thanks for praying,
Ken

Ken Ham, Answers in Genesis 55 Comments [11/24/2015 3:47:28 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 114720

[If you care more about the life and safety of an embryo and not the life and safety of a Syrian refugee, adult or child, you’re not pro-life.]

I care more about the life and safety of an UNBORN CHILD because they are not potential terrorists trying to kill all of us. Dumbest argument I’ve ever read.

prolife21, Tumblr 36 Comments [11/24/2015 3:46:24 AM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom