Quote# 114129

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The new show at Stargazers Planetarium, Aliens: Fact or Fiction?, and the new Pocket Guide to UFOs & ETs point out that the Bible does not address the question of whether there is intelligent life elsewhere in the universe. However, we can use biblical principles to reach a conclusion about ETs. Romans 8 makes it clear that man’s sin has tainted the entire universe. So if there were beings on other planets similar to man, then those beings would be subject to the effects of man’s sin. Would this be just? Could sentient beings on other planets be fallen creatures? If so, and since these beings are not descendants of Adam, what would be God’s plan of redemption for them? The Bible indicates that man was made in God’s image (Genesis 1:26) and is the center of God’s attention (Hebrews 2:7), leaving no room for other beings. It is clear from these and other considerations that there are no “aliens” living on other planets.

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Researchers1 have categorized some common elements to most claims of alien abduction. We need not discuss most of these here, but there are some important common themes. Many people report meeting a god-like creature or creatures during their abductions. Often these beings communicate universal-sounding messages or warn of impending nuclear or ecological disaster if mankind does not change his way. That is, the religious message, if there is one, is of the nature of a very hip, human-centered one.

Another common element is that most people who have claimed these close encounters with aliens profess spirituality, with a belief in God. As such, there is a wide distribution of denominations and sects represented among those who have claimed alien abduction. People reporting alien abductions also report indulging in the occult and new age practices in much higher proportion than the general population. Conspicuously absent from those reporting alien abductions are those who are truly born again followers of Christ. In fact, many researchers have collected reports of alien abductions abruptly ending when abductees verbally mention the name of Jesus.

These facts are extremely pertinent. If those who report alien abductions are sincere and truthful in relaying experiences that they firmly believe occurred, then we are left with the conclusion that there is a spiritual component, and that this spirituality is contrary to the Bible.

This is just one front in a spiritual war to divert people away from the truth of Scripture. We have already seen that the implication of the Bible is that Adam’s race is the only race of sentient, physical creatures in the universe. That is, there are no ETs to fly spaceships to Earth. But if one believes in evolution, one must accept the likelihood that life, even intelligent life, has evolved many times on other worlds. Thus, if life exists elsewhere, then that would argue against the Bible and hence the God of the Bible. So, a very effective tool in undermining the authority of the Bible and the gospel would be to convince as many people as possible that life exists elsewhere. What better way is there to do that than with flying saucers and “alien” visitations?

Dr. Danny Faulkner, Answers in Genesis 31 Comments [11/3/2015 3:02:44 PM]
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Submitted By: Nemo

Quote# 114127

Majid Nawaz is an atheist, not a Muslim. He can sell his soul to the devil to "reform Islam" as much as he likes but Islam will remain Islam. Islam is not Christianity. Islam is the source of modernity. Other systems should imitate Islam for better justice and equality, not the other way around. There is no doubt that western governments and media are using poodles like Nawaz to confuse the masses. The solution is Muslim activism. Muslims must come out of their comfort zones and start to question governments and media for having paid prostitutes like Nawaz to speak for Muslims (especially when he is a known Islamophobe). Muslims must get involved in media or create their own...

Adnan Rashid, Facebook 32 Comments [11/3/2015 4:26:24 AM]
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Submitted By: Nemo

Quote# 114125

[On Destination America airing a "live exorcism" on Halloween Eve.]

I can't believe people play with this stuff. I just can't wrap my head around it. I don't even understand what is so entertaining or even intriguing about any of it.
We had a family friend who is a christian and a wonderful woman...she was raised in the stanic occult. I won't get into details to still protect her but she told me things that really blew my mind.
The things are real and demonic and scary and nothing I would ever want to be a part of.

Stacey, Rapture Ready 37 Comments [11/3/2015 3:53:46 AM]
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Submitted By: documentingtehcrazy

Quote# 114123

Want to know why God exists?

Because, God is where we get our rights from. It doesn't matter what God, or religion, or anything for that matter, as long as we acknowledge we have natural rights bestowed to us by a higher power.

If our rights are natural, and from God, then no man can legislate them away.

Society is trying to erase God in a very desperate manner, don't let them do it! Once the notion of God is completely dismissed from our society, we will no longer recognize where our rights come from.

The state will say THEY grant us rights, and for safety reasons we need to give some back.

BS. Our founding fathers believed our rights came from God, and that no man can take them away.

Don't ever forget it.

ScoutsOUT, Godlike Productions 37 Comments [11/3/2015 3:53:25 AM]
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Quote# 114118

[An artist called Zamii070 drew Steven Universe fanart that some called bigoted because she drew an overweight character slightly thinner and a black character without her usual afro. The abuse got so bad that she attempted suicide. This is a response she got when she tweeted she was still alive and getting help]

"Tomorrow I have to go back to a new hospital so they can monitor me for safety so I won’t do anything dumb again. But for right now I’m resting with olive. It’s been a long week. Good naps and cute pets keep me sane ?? I love you all. And once again I’m so sorry."

I hope you fucking die

Like, seriously. This attentionwhoring is getting really fucking old. LOOK EVERYONE! A PRIVILEGED LITTLE WHITE GIRL PRETENDED SHE WAS GONNA KILL HERSELF! LET’S ALL FUCKING RUSH TO DEFEND HER LIKE SHE’S NOT AN OPPRESSOR!

do you not know what white privilege is fucking responsible for? You’re the reason blacks are being gunned down in the streets. You’re the reason we didn’t see a a black president until FUCKING 2008. And AS FUCKING SOON as PoC and LGBTQ communities are represented positively you have to come and turn each and every one of those characters into fucking racial caricatures straight out of the 1920s. Honestly, you deserve to die. Your art is fucking shit too.

Tara, Matriarchal Muffin 57 Comments [11/2/2015 7:06:48 PM]
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Submitted By: Cyclonus

Quote# 114117

Five Things Everyone Should Know

Well, here are the five things that Bill Nye says everyone needs to know about climate change:

Number One: Our Atmosphere

#1: The atmosphere is thin. Barely 60 miles, 100 kilometres, in outer space.


Now, we shouldn’t be concerned about our atmosphere being too thin because our atmosphere was designed by the perfect Creator. That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t take care of it—we certainly need to make sure we don’t fill our atmosphere with pollutants or punch holes in the ozone layer. But we also need to remember that our atmosphere was carefully put in place by our Creator. God knew exactly what kind of atmosphere we needed and He gave us that atmosphere. He even made Earth the perfect size to be able to hold this atmosphere! We can be confident that we have the perfect atmosphere for our planet.

Number Two: All the People

#2: There’s 7.3 billion people breathing and burning.


Now, I would like to know what Bill Nye would suggest we do about the number of people utilizing our atmosphere. Of course, since Nye is an atheist, he rejects the idea that there is a God who knew the end from the beginning (Isaiah 46:10) when He created Earth. If Nye accepted God’s Word and God’s sovereignty, he would know that the all-powerful God would not allow humanity to die off by climate change or anything else. Nye also therefore rejects God’s Word as a basis for value, purpose, and meaning in life. Does he realize that, from his atheistic perspective, man is just an evolved animal and, in being consistent with an evolutionary “survival of the fittest” worldview, population alarmists could suggest mass killings or forced sterilizations as possible solutions in reducing the population? I’m sure he would be aghast at such suggestions—but then on what basis does he anchor his morality and determine what is ultimately right and wrong in this world? It comes down to one’s worldview. What solutions are there in Nye’s game of “blame man and his increasing population”?

Furthermore, this overpopulation mantra is losing support even from mainstream sociologists. In fact, some researchers are lamenting the possibility of a disastrous population decline. I remember studying books at university 40 years ago that were claiming the world was overpopulated! (And by the way, as you fly across countries around the world as much as I do and look down below, you realize the world is not overpopulated!) There are many other issues in regard to population, starvation, and so on, but that’s a different discussion altogether.

Number Three: Temperatures Changing

#3: All this heat energy in the atmosphere is changing things. It’s not just getting warmer, it’s changing.


Our climate is indeed changing but this is nothing new. Temperatures have been changing since the time of the catastrophic Flood of Noah’s day around 4,350 years ago. For example, during medieval times there was the Little Ice Age and it lasted until around 1850. The temperature has been rising since then. But before the Little Ice Age there was a warming trend that made it possible to farm the now icy waste of Greenland. Climates change! But we don’t have to be worried that the climate is going to run out of control and cause catastrophic changes. God has promised,

While the earth remains,
Seedtime and harvest,
Cold and heat,
Winter and summer,
And day and night
Shall not cease.
(Genesis 8:22)

Number Four: Rising Oceans

#4: This warmth is making the ocean get bigger. . . . When the ocean rises just this much [a few inches], this whole area will be under water, and not just this area, that area, that’s Miami.


Are ocean levels really going to rise dramatically and catastrophically because of man-made CO2 emissions?

It should be noted that evolutionists believe in many ice ages over Earth’s history. These ice ages, in the evolution model, would have dramatically dropped ocean levels, which would then have risen during the interglacial periods. In this view of Earth’s history, this happened many, many times without being caused by humans. Now, of course, biblical creationists reject this idea of multiple ice ages because we start with the true history in God’s Word. The Bible records the event of the global Flood of Noah’s Day. This Flood, and accompanying events such as massive volcanic activity, produced the perfect conditions for an Ice Age. This Ice Age lowered ocean levels for a time before they rose again as the continental ice sheets melted. So changes in sea level are not unprecedented in either an evolutionary or biblical model.

The idea of drastic ocean rise is debated among scientists. For instance, scientists and scholars involved with the Nongovernmental International Panel on Climate Change reject the idea of alarming sea-level rise. Indeed, a writer for Forbes notes that in the past the biblical city of Ephesus was a bustling port city but is now four miles from the sea, and that “the old Roman port Ostia Antica located where the Tiber River once emptied into the Tyrrhenian Sea is now two miles up-river. When William the Conqueror defeated King Harold II at the Battle of Hastings in 1066, he landed at an old Roman fort on a small harbor island on England’s south coast. That location, now known as Pevensey Castle, is now a mile from the coast.” So sea levels rise and fall naturally. There’s no cause for panic about rising ocean levels.

Actually, it’s ironic that Bill Nye is concerned about the people living in coastal cities. After all, wasn’t he just complaining about how 7.3 billion people breathe and burn our atmosphere? It’s inconsistent of him and others to express concern about the number of people on the planet but also be worried about the people living in coastal cities. But it’s actually good that Nye is concerned about the people living along the coast since we are supposed to value human life since all humans are made in the image of God (Genesis 1:27–28). Of course, from an atheistic evolutionary position, why should he have any concern at all?

Number Five: Unprecedented Speed

#5: But the main, main, thing, everybody, . . . is the speed, it’s the rate at which things are changing. . . Oh yes, the world was once warmer, there was once more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere than there is today, but all of this never happened this fast. And that’s what you gotta get your heads around.


So Bill Nye is saying that the warming isn't the problem—it’s been warmer before, but it’s the speed of the warming that’s the problem. Really, this exposes how climate change is a matter of interpretation—just like historical science, which depends on your views of the unobservable past.

According to the evolutionary model, which Bill Nye holds to with fervor, the Earth is millions of years old and the climate has been relatively stable since the last supposed glacial period over 10,000 years ago. Based on this model, and given that observational science shows that Earth’s climate is now changing, secularists such as Nye assume that human activity must be the cause of this change. If this is true, then a changing climate is understandably a concern for them. Now, this model uses methods such as tree ring and ice core dating to get these supposed stable temperature readings, but these methods are fraught with unprovable assumptions. So Nye’s concern about the speed of today’s climate change is based on unprovable assumptions about the past that are being used to interpret the data.

According to a biblical model of Earth’s history, Earth is only a few thousand years old. Our planet was created with a perfect climate, but this climate was upset at the time of the catastrophic global flood of Noah’s day, which destroyed and reshaped the surface of the Earth. This Flood was followed by the Ice Age which covered 30% of Earth’s surface in ice. This transitional climate slowly gave way to the present climate as the Earth evened out from the after-effects of the Flood. So, when we start with a biblical model for Earth’s history, we should expect variations in climate and temperature.

Ken Ham, Answers in Genesis 42 Comments [11/2/2015 7:05:22 PM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 114114

To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize. – Voltaire

Now let’s see: there's the global warming hoax, the Obama as President hoax, the Black Victimization Hoax, the current Pope as Catholic hoax - I’m beginning to believe that we've been sold a bill of goods about homosexuality not being a psychological disorder. The psychopaths perpetrating the aforementioned hoaxes are the same group who determined that gay was normal, and are now promoting pedophilia as normative. I am enraged at how our culture has allowed a cadre of out-of-control "minority" groups to suppress free speech and literally get away with
murder. The paragraph below represents a small portion of Anonymous commentary, that included numerous source citations and was obviously written by a psychiatrist.

“The American Psychiatric Association (APA) removed homosexuality as a mental disorder from its DSM-II manual. In 1973, not based on any ‘new’ scientific data but as a result of pressure from militant, boots-on-ground homosexual activists. Homosexuality is considered "normal" because of a single study, from 1957, using a sample of just 30 gays and comparing them to ONLY 30 straight men, that showed that there was, "No scientific basis for inferring a predisposition to *psychopathology* or other *maladjustment* as intrinsic to homosexuality or
bisexuality." We now know better, but the professionals are afraid to do anything and speak out. Note that this single study did not ask about sexual issues, did not deal with emotional development or psychological inquiries. The "tell us a story" tests determined that gays are mentally normal and healthy, based on a study of 30 gays. The tests? The Rorschach test, in which people describe what they see in abstract ink blots, the Thematic Apperception Test [TAT] and the Make-A-Picture-Story Test [MAPS]. No information about how these 30 dudes were chosen, or if they were chosen at random, or from what population they were derived. Were they all college educated or business professionals? Were they all middle-aged or older? These would have skewed the results very dramatically.”

The elevation and promotion of sexual deviancy represents one more tool in the Obama/Progressive Agenda in the U.S and the Global/progressive Agenda (Agenda 21) worldwide to eviscerate the cultures of sovereign nations, collapse their economies and transform the world into a totalitarian toilet run by an elitist oligarchy.

Check out the Common Core curriculum (now in over 100 countries) on sexuality. Your kids are being sexualized in grammar school and will ‘know’ that all sex at any age is good.

“Let me control the textbooks and I will control the State” – Adolf Hitler.

infrahuman, WND 24 Comments [11/2/2015 7:04:59 PM]
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Quote# 114112

Sen. Ted Cruz’s father says LGBT activists will move to legalize pedophilia.
I don't think they will have to fight too hard if at all. The moral marriage has been thrown away by the not so supreme court. The "boundary of right and wrong" concerning marriage has been breached. Just look at the Roe v. Wade decision and where it is now (Planned Parenthood, abortionists who have absolutely NO BOUNDARIES).
This is the future of marriage.
Jesus come quickly.

Sweetatorscreampuff, WND 25 Comments [11/2/2015 7:04:46 PM]
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Quote# 114110

The idea of normalizing pedophilia has been coming up from the Liberal/Progressives for over 10 years now. The Lib/Progs want to define deviancy out of existance. With no morality they become the soul arbiters of right and wrong. Homosexuals are the greatest group of pedophiles. Homosexuality is a mental disease. It is not genetic. That has been proven by the fact there is no genetic reason or physical find for it. The human genome has been mapped and there is no "homosexual gene" or gentic reason for it. So homosexuals have go recruit for it. Normalizing pedophilia plays right into this. Deviancy is the play ground of the Lib/Progs.....

Frdm Rkt, WND 19 Comments [11/2/2015 7:04:37 PM]
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Quote# 114109

If we let homosexuality slide because it is a sexual orientation that a person doesn't choose, then obviously the next step is to acknowledge that pedophilia is also a sexual orientation (because pedophiles don't choose who they are attracted to, they just are). You can't pick and choose which disorder is okay and which isn't. Then you have all of these people talking about lowering the age of consent. If a two year old can somehow understand what it means to be a male or female (obviously they cannot), then why couldn't a 12 year old choose to have sex? To a person with a halfway decent understanding of right and wrong, this is obviously not okay. It's a slippery slope whether people want to admit it or not. You tell two men they can get married, and you're eventually going to make exceptions for the throuple that wants to get married. It's ridiculous, and it isn't going to get better any time soon. We wouldn't want to hurt anyone's feeeeeelings.... I hope you can read the disgust and sarcasm in my words.

Mina, WND 25 Comments [11/2/2015 7:03:33 PM]
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Quote# 114107

Dear AFTAH Supporter,

The following is an appeal for funds and prayers by Jennifer Coutlee–an Indiana woman and Christian mother of three who is living the ultimate marital nightmare: her husband of 17 years, Wyatt, engaged in secret, adulterous sodomies with other men before finally announcing his homosexuality to her under compulsion of his male lover. Now she has to endure a situation in which her 12-year-old Autistic son is forced to spend time in his dad’s household with the homosexual male lover present. Jennifer has created an online “crowdfunding” site to help her in her legal battles ahead to protect her children.

If your heart is not moved by this tragedy, check your pulse. Let’s band together to raise a few thousand dollars–or many thousands of dollars!–to help this brave and determined woman protect the safety and innocence of her children. Please read this letter and go to Jennifer’s funding site and give what you can. If you cannot donate, pray for her. This is a side of the “gay” activist movement that the media rarely report on honestly–how the pursuit of sexual perversion and immoral relationships breaks up families and puts children at risk.

The media love “gay” victims, but the victims of selfish homosexuals?–not so much. And we all know that a sizable portion of people who read Jennifer’s letter will make some sort of excuse for Wyatt, the homosexually adulterous husband, on the grounds that he “discovered his gay self” …”who he really is,” or some pathetic variation of these. (Remember homosexual adulterer and New Jersey Gov. Jim McGreevey’s self-serving “I am a gay American” speech?) In the end, homosexualism is merely another indulgence of sinful self over God–and it is at war with the natural family.

Peter LaBarbera, Americans For Truth 24 Comments [11/2/2015 7:02:48 PM]
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Quote# 114106

When will you get it La.? God is your enemy. Shooters are His weapon of choice. Humble yourself & obey @BobbyJindal!

Westboro Baptist Church, Twitter 11 Comments [11/2/2015 7:02:33 PM]
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Quote# 114103

Nope! Still wrong! A COURT DECISION IS NOT A LAW!! Do you understand that? Roe v Wade is NOT the law of the land. Roe v Wade was an OPINION handed down by judges. Judges and courts do not make laws, but rather merely render opinions.

Did you know that the Supreme Court once rendered the opinion that black men were inferior to whites? Did you know that the Supreme Court once ruled that women had no legal right to vote? Did you know that as recently as 1986 the Supreme Court ruled that there was no right to homosexual sodomy?

Courts only offer opinions. Opinions can change when judges change. The law cannot be changed by a “judge.” If that were the case, our “laws” would be as constantly changing as the “judges” are.

If “judges” ruled that sodomy was illegal in 1986, how did sodomy become “legal” today? Did the law change, or did the “opinions” of the “judges” change?

[An all-caps COURT DECISION is, however, still a binding legal ruling. Do you not understand that?]

NEGATIVE!!!! It is an OPINION!!!! Do you have any idea how our government works? Any at all?????

afchief, Patheos 24 Comments [11/2/2015 7:00:57 PM]
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Quote# 114097

I must thank you profusely for your insightful posts. The interracial marriage discussions are of particular interest to me as a product of miscegenation. My father is a Jew and my mother Chinese. I am a college-age male living at home and my parents have been fighting recently with the looming threat of divorce. They mostly argue when they think I cannot hear, but their voices carry through the walls.

In one argument my mother accused my father of being a racist who doesn’t care about Chinese culture. He accused her in turn of only marrying him out of rebellion, not love. Both are probably correct to a certain degree.
My grandparents sent my uncle to convince my mother not to marry my father and none of her family attended their wedding. My mother was a careerist, an executive for the telephone company, and my father has told me they would often fight when my sister and I were children because she was neglecting her role as a nurturer. I am not close to my relatives on either side and my sister is a card-carrying feminist. Consequently, I feel my father is the only real family I have. My father has also confided that he wanted more children, but my mother wanted to wait, so they could not.

My sister and I were born when my parents were in their thirties and successive attempts at procreation failed. He has made it my duty to give him enough grandchildren to make up for his failure, especially considering my sister does not want children. He has even told me not to marry someone like my mother, but someone much sweeter.

Miscegenation has resulted in the gift of intelligence for me and I have no self loathing. Still I would not recommend it to anyone. Any future marriage and children I have will be products of miscegenation by default. After experiencing life with my mother and sister, I am greatly considering expatriating to find a wife. I want a family to provide meaning to my work, but more importantly better prospects for a future heir. In Western societies women prefer below average men. If I were to go to China there would be issues of the one-child policy, not for me, but for my progeny. If I were to go to Malaysia my children would be subject to corporal punishment in schools. Vietnam is an option. But the best woman I have known, the one who got away, was a Polish immigrant classmate. She was very intelligent and devoutly Catholic. She wrote poetry and would teach me sign language and the genus/species names of animals. Eastern Europe is a consideration, but Latin America has been my main focus recently. If I am lucky enough to find a compatible country to start a family, I will advise any son to marry a local girl, like his mother.

For more insight on the reasons for interracial marriage I will present my own hypothesis for my father. His favorite artist is Paul Gauguin. He has a poor relationship with his own mother, so he saw women of his own race in a negative light. Instead he longed for a woman like Gauguin’s Polynesian muses and found a suitable Oriental substitute. My mother has retained her beauty in age, but my parents nevertheless have an existential incompatibility of values. My father fell in love with an image and failed to see that it merely masked the type of woman he wished to avoid.

David, Thinking Housewife 19 Comments [11/2/2015 6:58:06 PM]
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Quote# 114094

"Both entire football teams of that school need to refuse to play until the coach is reinstated fully. As well as the other football teams in that district and state. Time for everyone to make a stand for God and of course for freedom."

Exactly. Any lazy and indifferent society who allows their rights to freedom of religion and freedom of speech to be so easily taken from them rightly deserves the tyranny they will soon find themselves living AND dying under.

Alas, truth be told, I think we all can sense that it is already much too late. :(
Jesus promised that we would suffer persecution. And, boy oh boy, the winds of change for Christians are unmistakably & relentlessly blowing! A storm is definitely coming.
It's well past the time to get your friends and families to safety folks.
Time to lead them to "The Rock."

Sure, some may challenge your faith & laugh at the "myth" they claim Jesus to be.
But they won't be laughing for very long.
Soon, everything they've ever put their faith in is going to fail them. And although they don't know it yet, they will desperately need The Good Shepherd.
Patiently plant the seeds in love today and let the Holy Spirit do the rest!
God bless! :)


The Last Trump, Christian News Network 19 Comments [11/2/2015 6:56:44 PM]
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Quote# 114093

Say what you will about Muslims, I greatly admire the way their women "cover up." This is the way it should be. Sinful Americans have attempted to demonize the Islam culture, by portraying Muslim women as "victims" of a male-chauvinist society. In reality, most Muslim women approve of their strict clothing rules, and still honor their husbands with reverence, as part of their religious faith. In sharp contrast, American women have big mouths, bad attitudes, whorish ways about them, a ton of stubborn sinful pride, and have little (if any) respect for God-ordained masculine authority. Woe unto America!!!

Hannah Montana is everything I just described—a whorish little seductive brat, flashing her Satan sign on stage, gyrating her body in tight pants for everyone to lust upon, shaming the name of Jesus, and rebelling against God's Word. Walt Disney is of the Devil, and they are working relentlessly for the New World Order to corrupt America's youth. The Devil is trying to introduce young people to a "new-kind-of-family," and a new-kind-of-god as well. The god which Billy Ray and Miley Cyrus follow is a god without morals, without boundaries, a Hollywood god that paid for our sins so we could continue living in sin. This is NOT Biblical Christianity.

As is typical of the average spoiled materialistic American today, Miley sings... "I'm a lucky girl... I've got everything I've always wanted." Hannah Montana and Miley Cyrus are one and the same—spoiled brats. God hates Rock 'N' Roll music, because it promotes rebellion against authority. Is it any wonder why America's women are filing for divorce at more than TWICE the rate of men? It's because women today refuse to submit to their husband's authority. Miley, in her song "Who Said," states... "Every girl has her choice... I do it my way." Shouldn't we do it God's way Miley? In an interview you stated that you "do everything for Jesus"; Yet, in your music you state that you do things "my way." Which is it?

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 35 Comments [11/2/2015 6:56:34 PM]
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Quote# 114091

Notice that the rich man in Hell didn't ask for a cold beer. There will be no beer in Hell nor Heaven, I assure you of that! Neither did the rich man in Hell ask for an ice cold Coca-Cola, because there won't be any. The rich man in Hell, who lived selfishly and forgot about God and the poor, asked for a drop of water. He was denied any water as part of his punishment! Do you understand that friend? If you go to Hell, part of your punishment will be the lack of water to quench your thirst. I don't know about you, but I'd want to avoid Hell just for that reason alone. Can you imagine not having any water?

Carefully consider that the rich man had a body in Hell. Jesus taught that God the Father will destroy the soul AND BODY in Hell of all Christ-rejecters. . .

Matthew 10:28, “And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul AND BODY in hell.”

Clearly, God will provide some type of body that will not be consumed in the flames, yet will be able to sense and suffer pain and torment in the Lake of Fire. Revelation 20:15 says that anyone whose name is not found written in the Lamb's Book of Life will be CAST into the Lake of Fire (Gehenna). Clearly, this tells us that God will provide some type of body that can be “cast” into Hell and withstand tens-of-thousands of degrees of heat.

The rich man in Hell was thirsty. When we get thirsty, we go get a tall glass of ice cold water, with ice cubes, and we quench our thirst. That is a gift from God. There will be no water in Hell. You will thirst for all eternity. When I awoke from my second neck surgery in April of 2010, I was extremely dehydrated and thirsty, but the nurse wouldn't allow me to drink any water until my anesthesia wore off, to prevent vomiting. I had never been so thirsty in my life. As I laid there in the recovery room, I thought about Jesus on the cross, Who said “I thirst.” My tongue felt like dried leather. My throat felt like a sandy desert. I was so thirsty.

Eventually I was allowed to sip the water from a very small sponge. It wasn't much water at all, just a few drops, but it was so refreshing. My body was dehydrated from the surgery. I had a hard neck brace on my neck. The toothache-like pain in my neck was unbearable in the hours after my surgery. I was very lonely by myself. I suffered so much, but I knew Jesus was with me (Matthew 28:20; Hebrews 13:5). Now, when I drink a tall glass of ice cold water, I appreciate it much more. I know what it's like to be very thirsty and be denied any water. I drink even more water now because I can. I love cold, fresh, non-fluoridated, non-chlorinated, pure water.

Water is a gift from God that most people take for granted. When I drink refreshing cold water, I think oftentimes about the rich man in Hell begging for water, and I hurt for him. I realize that no one goes to Hell except those who choose to go their; but I still hurt for anyone to die in their sins. 2nd Peter 3:9 tells us that God doesn't want anyone to perish in their sins. Ezekiel tells us that God has no pleasure in the death of the wicked.

David J. Stewart, Jesus Is Savior 28 Comments [11/2/2015 6:51:55 PM]
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Submitted By: Yakob

Quote# 114089

[[ A morality test
Assume that the most attractive girl (or guy.) you've ever seen is chained to a lamp post naked while you're having a stroll late at night. Would you, or wouldn't you have sex with her/him IF:

No one would ever find out
The memory of the incident will be wiped from your and her memory afterwards

Vote in the poll.]]

I don't really consider this a morality test. Any man with a penis who saw the most attractive girl ever, to their eyes, would shag her (assuming the lack of consequences was made explicitly clear to them) and that's the end of it. A morality test would be something like killing a child or slaughtering a pig, or even exploiting a minority. Human nature dictates that an ordinary person with some sort of libido would go with "Yes" in this instance. I'm not going to lie to myself, though I consider myself as good a person as can reasonably exist, by suggesting otherwise.

LukeEatForest, the student room 38 Comments [11/2/2015 6:51:48 PM]
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Quote# 114087

The organizer of the “National Religious Liberties Conference” in Des Moines, Iowa, announced today that Ted Cruz, Mike Huckabee and Bobby Jindal have committed to speaking at the summit, which will take place next month. -
Kevin Swanson, the conference’s chief organizer, is a far-right pastor and host of the “Generations Radio” program, on which he has frequently claimed that the government should put gay people to death, warned that the Girl Scouts and the movie “Frozen” turn girls into lesbians and blamed natural disasters on gay people and women who wear pants.

Swanson on homosexuality: Boycotts Girl Scout cookies because they “promote lesbianism” and “I don’t want my little girl turning into a lesbian.” Discussed whether the Rose Bowl should include a float where a gay person is stoned to death. Lamented that these days country singer Kacey Musgraves wasn’t lynched for her “promotion of homosexuality” through song. Urged people to hold up signs telling gay couples to die on their wedding day. Defended a Ugandan measure to make homosexuality a criminal offense punishable by life imprisonment or the death penalty, saying he was glad the country was “standing strong” by adopting extreme anti-gay laws. Agreed that gay marriage is like the Sandy Hook school massacre. Wanted America to have anti-gay laws “much like what the Pilgrims had” (the Pilgrims believed that homosexuality should be punishable by death, banishment and whippings) and enforce biblical law “that says that homosexuals should be put to death.” Explained that “a Christian perspective ultimately brought the death penalty upon homosexuality.”

Swanson on pop culture: “Frozen” is a demonic movie meant to “indoctrinate my five-year-old to be a lesbian.” Beyoncé is possessed by demons. Mark Twain was possessed by demons. The Beatles spread a “demonic approach to things.” Dumbledore encourages pedophilia. Taylor Swift, Miley Cyrus and Katy Perry sing “demon songs.” Katniss Everdeen is a “little girl anarchist.” Halloween is a celebration of the victims of Noah’s flood. William Shakespeare ruined America by planting the “seedbeds for homosexual themes and homosexual behavior.”



Kevin Swanson, Right Wing Watch 42 Comments [11/2/2015 4:24:23 AM]
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Submitted By: Mister Spak

Quote# 114086

The way the earth rotates on its axis, how far away it is from the sun. These are all very complex things,” Carson said in response to a question from the audience. “Gravity, where did it come from? I mean, there are so many things. So I don’t denigrate the people who say ‘Eh, eh, whatever, somehow it happened.’ I don’t denigrate them. I just don’t have that much faith

Ben Carson, RawStory 61 Comments [11/2/2015 4:24:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Frogflayer

Quote# 114085

I used to think homosexuality was a choice, until I debated with gays (over the internet) and found a study that suggested hornons could manipukate lab rats into becoming gay. I was amazed that the gays seemed to accept this, althoigh they rejected my theory that this was being done intentionally.

Hormonal imbalance caused by GMO's, vaccines (something the gays vehemently denied), and pesticides, and prescription drugs *could* be causing hormonal balance to children in the womb, leading them to be 'born gay'.

The reason why gay men are effeminate is because of too much estrogen. Even the 'buff' gay guys are very into their looks, like a woman.

The reason why lesbians are butch and even cut their hair like a man is because of too much testosterone.

Transgenders TAKE hormone therapy so of course this will interfere with their chemical balanve and they won't just think they are the opposite gender, they will be! (cue twilight zone music). And Jews accept this as perfectly normal.

joejoeson, Stormfront.com 32 Comments [11/2/2015 4:15:08 AM]
Fundie Index: 18
Submitted By: HEIL SATAN

Quote# 114079

Since Barack Obama first appeared on TV he has been referred to as the The One, Messiah, Christ and God. This is the latest installment from NEWSWEEK. In its November 22, 2010 issue, Obama has been shown on its cover page with multiple arms balancing several policy issues while raising his left leg mimicking the cosmic dance of the Hindu deity; considered a manifestation of Lord Shiva.

Wikipedia says: Nataraja or Nataraj, The Lord (or King) of Dance; Tamil: (Kooththan)) is a depiction of the Hindu god Shiva as the cosmic dancer who performs his divine dance to destroy a weary universe and make preparations for god Brahma to start the process of creation. Nataraja is most often depicted through a statue. The dance of Shiva in Tillai, the traditional name for Chidambaram, forms the motif for all the depictions of Shiva as Nataraja. He is also known as “Sabesan” which splits as “Sabayil aadum eesan” in Tamil which means “The Lord who dances on the dais”.The form is present in most Shiva temples in South India, and is the main deity in the famous temple at Chidambaram. —The Dance of Shiva By Ananda Kentish Coomaraswamy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nataraja#cite_note-The_Dance_of_.C5.9Aiva-0


Wikipedia cont …/ The sculpture is usually made in bronze, with Shiva dancing in an aureole of flames, lifting his left leg (and in rare cases, the right leg) and balancing over a demon or dwarf (Apasmara) who symbolizes ignorance. It is a well known sculptural symbol in India and popularly used as a symbol of Indian culture. –Shiva as Nataraja – Dance and Destruction In Indian Art

The two most common forms of Shiva’s dance are the Lasya (the gentle form of dance), associated with the creation of the world, and the Tandava (the violent and dangerous dance), associated with the destruction of weary worldviews – weary perspectives & lifestyles. In essence, the Lasya and the Tandava are just two aspects of Shiva’s nature; for he destroys in order to create, tearing down to build again. — Elephanta: The Cave of Shiva By Carmel Berkson, Wendy Doniger, George Michell http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nataraja#cite_note-The_Dance_of_.C5.9Aiva-0

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Nation of Islam, leader Louis Farrakhan called Obama the “Messiah” saying:

Addressing a large crowd behind a podium Feb. 24 2010 with a Nation of Islam Saviours’ Day 2008 sign, Farrakhan proclaims,

“You are the instruments that God is going to use to bring about universal change, and that is why Barack has captured the youth. And he has involved young people in a political process that they didn’t care anything about. That’s a sign. When the Messiah speaks, the youth will hear, and the Messiah is absolutely speaking.”



“Brothers and sisters,” Farrakhan said, “Barack Obama to me, is a herald of the Messiah. Barack Obama is like the trumpet that alerts you something new, something better is on the way.”

Farrakhan points out that the man Nation of Islam followers refer to as “the Saviour,” Fard Muhammad, had a black father and a white mother, just as Obama did.

“A black man with a white mother became a saviour to us,” he said. “A black man with a white mother could turn out to be one who can lift America from her fall.

“Would God allow Barack to be president of a country that has been so racist, so evil in its treatment of Hispanics, native Americans, blacks?” he asked. “Would God do something like that? Yeah. Of course he would. That’s to show you that the stone that the builders rejected has become the headstone of the corner. This is a sign to you. It’s the time of our rise. It’s the time that we should take our place. The future is all about you.”

Farrakhan suggested he would keep a low profile in the campaign, despite his enthusiasm for Obama.

“That’s why you have never heard me make any comment,” he explained. “I love that brother, and I want to see that brother successful. I don’t want to say anything that would hurt that brother, and I don’t want them to use me or the Nation of Islam.”

Returning to the theme that Obama is a mystical figure, Farrakhan said,

“he is not the Messiah for sure, but anytime he gives you a sign of uniting races, ethnic groups, ideologies, religions and makes people feel a sense of oneness, that’s not necessarily Satan’s work, that is, I believe, the work of God.”

He went on to point out that when religious scholars talk about Christ or the Islamic Mahdi, they never talk in racial terms – again, pointing to Obama’s mixed racial background. — http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=77539

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Deborah, discerning the world 27 Comments [11/1/2015 4:55:07 PM]
Fundie Index: 13
Submitted By: undie not fundie

Quote# 114078

Please help us sort out this moral and ethical dilemma. We live in a state that recently passed a law stating that all abortionists must have admitting privileges to a hospital within 30 miles from the location the abortions are performed. This law also states that the abortion clinic must maintain the same cleanliness standards as an outpatient surgical clinic. Due to these requirements, all but 8 Planned Parenthoods have closed. Yay! Unfortunately, one that remains open is located in my city. Worse yet, the abortionist has been featured on one of the undercover videos from the Center for Medical Progress- and she admits to breaking the law, doing partial birth abortion on live babies (not killed with digoxin injections prior to the procedures) and doing 30 abortions per day! She is the face of evil and moral bankruptcy. My husband is Division Chief Medical Officer of a large hospital system, which includes a large number of hospitals in our city. After investigating, it appears that the reason our Planned Parenthood remains open is because two of MY HUSBAND'S hospitals have given admitting privileges to this abortionist! He notified the CMO of each of these hospitals who were also horrified. Upon investigation, it appears that she won't be coming up for credentialing for several more years! It also appears that she just obtained admitting privileges after this law was passed. Unless our state charges her with a crime (which isn't unlikely because they raided that PP) there is nothing to be done to revoke her privileges. So...my husband is working as CMO and one of the doctors on staff is an abortionist who revels in her job. He and I are sick about it. He also approached the Division CEO who doesn't want to touch this political hot button. The only recourse currently is to make common knowledge that this hospital system is enabling PP which would no doubt cause a local uproar forcing some action by the CEO. Or, he could remain silent. Or he could quit. What, in your opinion, is the most moral and ethical action? Thank you.


marbleartist , catholic answer forum 23 Comments [11/1/2015 4:54:59 PM]
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Submitted By: mary

Quote# 114077

Why do ppl act as tho they are so educated n act as tho they are not subjective in their scientific truth..., look I gave u something to pursue n I am not going to educate u on the forums n do your work for u.... Science is still after the fact not behind it all.... He's another tidbit.... Your brain resonates at 7.83hz n the earth resonates at 7.83hz, now that said u think u could survive on earth being out of phase?

allhart, Christian Forums 48 Comments [11/1/2015 4:54:35 PM]
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Quote# 114075

[A comment added after Pat Robertson's claim that "that the acceptance of homosexuality could result in hurricanes, earthquakes, tornadoes, terrorist bombings and possibly a meteor"]

Yet, in an apparent support of Robertson's claim, Ray Boltz, a well known Christian songwriter and musician, announced to his family he was gay on December 26, 2004, the same day the world's deadliest tsunami struck in the Indian Ocean.

Geometrycirclesquare, Wikipedia 35 Comments [11/1/2015 8:37:02 AM]
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