Quote# 100635

"Pope Francis has a warning for Italy's mobsters: They will go to hell if they don't repent and renounce their "blood-stained money and blood-stained power."

But the Pope himself is headed for the same destination. He does not live by the faith that was delivered to us, i.e. the unadulterated Gospel. If Pope Francis were to die at this moment, he would be destined for hell, for his condemnation is already upon him. (John 3:18)

Therefore this verse comes to mind,

"Let them alone; they are blind guides. And if the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit.” (Matthew 15:14)


elizabeth prata, the end times 20 Comments [4/21/2014 3:17:58 AM]
Fundie Index: 21
Submitted By: Tony

Quote# 100628

Sad enough I just had a Catholic Priest tell me God created the homosexuals and it is innate. Meaning God created sin and the Bible is not truth about the condition of homosexuality being a condition of the depraved mind and desire left unchecked. What is the world coming to. When confronted over if God can commit sin, create sin, if God lied, or if the priest was wrong all I got was that the priest was glad the WORLD had decided the issue and I was wrong. All I can say is the issue was decided by the world in Sodom also and we see how popularity of sin effects God's judgment.

Scott Denard, One News Now 23 Comments [4/21/2014 3:15:34 AM]
Fundie Index: 15

Quote# 100627

http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/stephen-colberts-vile-political-blackface

Before the Civil Rights era, a popular form of entertainment (among white audiences) was the minstrel show, where white actors would paint their faces (blackface) and act outrageous to perpetuate racial stereotypes and hatred. Today that sad legacy lives on in the form of "comedians" like Stephen Colbert who practice "conservativeface." On his TV show, Colbert pretends to be a conservative and says outrageous things to make conservatives look bad. I find this behavior reprehensible. I find it despicable that anyone who pretend to espouse conservative views just to make conservatives look bad. It's perpetuating intolerance for differing opinions.

I'm hoping to start an online petition to get CBS to change their minds about Colbert. Does anyone here have experience with online petition sites? I know about Petition Online and The Petition Site. Which is better? Are there any superior alternatives to these two?

GoemonFan471986, Gamefaqs 31 Comments [4/21/2014 3:14:53 AM]
Fundie Index: 27

Quote# 100626

[other poster asked: Do you ONLY be "good" because God says so? You don't murder or anything because God says so but you would totally do it without the Bible telling you not to?]

Yep, we as a human race are just pure evil. That is just the way we were born. Without God's saving grace we would be completely lost. It is only because God is absolutely good that I even have a chance to be so. Otherwise, yes, I would choose evil.

seekinghim45, The Well-Trained Mind 41 Comments [4/21/2014 3:12:58 AM]
Fundie Index: 29

Quote# 100625

Okay I have some more important facts here to prove atheists wrong:
Dark Matter and Dark energy are impossible to detect and scientists believe in it so science believes something it can't prove.
Science is extremely dogmatic.
And that they're evil:
Stalin was an atheist.
Most all atheists support baby killing.
Atheists are never moral because they do not believe in God
Thank you and God Bless. Please put your faith in God not science.

Account Suspended , Yahoo Answers 56 Comments [4/20/2014 4:20:35 AM]
Fundie Index: 37
Submitted By: PhillipaFry

Quote# 100619

When you come down to things like axe murder or homosexuality and you say, ‘we’re really going to promote it and we’re going to encourage everybody in America to engage in this or at least support this thing,’ there will be people on the other side who will take an adamantly opposed position to your support of axe murdering or homosexuality. They will be intolerant, they will be very intolerant of that which is evil, like axe murdering. Didn’t God define love? See the problem with this ‘love’ thing is you can define it anyway you want. Homosexuals love their friends and cannibals love their victims, they taste good.

Kevin Swanson, Right Wing Watch 35 Comments [4/20/2014 4:18:50 AM]
Fundie Index: 27
Submitted By: Aspergus

Quote# 100618

The Home Secretary Theresa May is being urged to step in to prevent a Nigerian “witch hunter” returning to the UK after she flew in to preach to congregations in London.

“Lady Apostle” Helen Ukpabio, founder of the controversial Liberty Foundation Gospel Ministries, is believed to still be in the capital after addressing three gatherings last week.

The born-again Christian Pentecostal preacher claims to have been betrothed to Satan as a teenager before being rescued from a cult at the age of 17. She now specialises in liberating captives in “deliverance sessions” that critics claim are little more than crude exorcisms.

Among her advice to parents is the suggestion: “If a child under the age of two screams in the night, cries and is always feverish with deteriorating health, he or she is a servant of Satan.”

Campaigners say such beliefs, prevalent in some parts of the developing world, can put children’s safety at risk. They have written to Ms May to urge that the pastor be banned from the UK after the current tour.

Helen Ukpabio, The Independent 21 Comments [4/20/2014 4:18:43 AM]
Fundie Index: 23

Quote# 100613

When white supremacy tried to make a mark in American history it was viciously attacked quickly put down by the people of our nation . But Gay Supremacy is becoming a monster that carries greater evils than white supremacy ever did. White Supremacy was focused on how a group of people felt about another group of people. They created various barriers for those they hated and their views about their superiority to others provided the frame work for the citizens of this nation to search their hearts and understand that God has created every person in His image. However Gay Supremacy's hate reaches much farther than a specific group of people. Their is no common ground that can be reached. Their is no searching of the heart or consideration of God's principles. Their hate is generated only by self centeredness and hate for anyone who disagrees with them.

Any person who disagrees with their evil beliefs will be viciously attacked and destroyed. I could disagree with the beliefs of white supremacist and still hold to Biblical views about life, marriage and sexuality. Many people in America fought against their own kind in order to rid us of this hateful group but Gay supremacist have bullied every sector of our nation and now sit as the giant bully against all Americans who disagree with their radical agenda. Christians are not bigots because we don't embrace immoral lifestyles. Currently gay supremacist point their anguish at Christians but anyone who stand opposed to the Gay supremacist is game for utter annihilation.

Our state government must now take the lead in protecting the religious freedoms and right of expression of the citizens of their state from this new enemy the Gay Supremacist.

Mary Baker, Tea Party Nation 28 Comments [4/20/2014 4:11:35 AM]
Fundie Index: 32
Submitted By: Night Jaguar

Quote# 100612

Pastor John Hagee is warning members of his megachurch to prepare for the end of the world because a "blood moon" eclipse on Tuesday is signaling that the End Times could be beginning.

[...]

"I believe that the heavens are God's billboard, that he has been sending signals to planet Earth," he explained. "God is literally screaming at the world, 'I'm coming soon.'"

Hagee predicted that the four eclipses were signaling a "world-shaking event that will happen between April 2014 and October 2015."

"God sends plant Earth a signal that something big is about to happen! He's controlling the Sun and the moon right now to send our generation a signal, but the question is, are we getting it?"

Pastor John Hagee, Crooks and Liars 60 Comments [4/20/2014 4:11:18 AM]
Fundie Index: 27
Submitted By: Night Jaguar

Quote# 100608

The appalling New Mexico ruling will stand. A ruling where one justice actually stated that Christian business owners are “now compelled by law to compromise the very religious beliefs that inspire their lives." The ruling by this court went on to state that such coercion is "the price of citizenship."

The “price of citizenship”?? Have we been transported to North Korea? Since when do we have to check our First Amendment freedoms at the door in order to live and work as a citizen of the United States? What happened to the land of the free where we have the free exercise of religion?

As U.S. Representative Randy Forbes (R-Va.) stated in response to this court’s ruling: “The ability to speak freely and live according to our beliefs is the prize, not the price, of citizenship. And we all have a stake in protecting it.”

Elaine Huguenin’s attorney, Jordan Lorence from Alliance Defending Freedom, told writer Todd Starnes:

“It is disconcerting because the (state) decision was so harsh that this small company can now be forced by state anti-discrimination laws to create messages that they don’t agree with. This new authoritarianism – forcing people to bow the knee to a new orthodoxy or they be punished – is very chilling.”

“When people say things like gay rights trump religious rights, what they are saying is the government can force people to believe a certain way – and that is something that in a free society should not be tolerated.”

Lorence also stated: "Should the government force a videographer who is an animal rights activist to create a video promoting hunting and taxidermy? Of course not, and neither should the government force this photographer to promote a message that violates her conscience."

Yet that is exactly what the government is doing (with a complicit stamp of approval from the U.S. Supreme Court) – forcing Christians to closet their faith and bow before our nation’s golden idol giving glory, laud, and honor to all things homosexual.

[...]

When Eich’s support for natural (biblical) marriage was discovered, gay rights groups called for his head on a platter and the Herodian Mozilla didn’t hesitate to comply – even though the company’s chairwoman, Mitchell Baker, acknowledged: “I never saw any kind of behavior or attitude from him that was not in line with Mozilla’s values of inclusiveness.”

This forced resignation of a CEO simply because of his personally-held opinions and beliefs regarding the institution of marriage is chilling. Albert Mohler gives this warning:

This is one of the most ominous developments in our culture in recent years because what it demonstrates is the fact that those who are now pressing the agenda for the legalization of same-sex marriage and the normalization of homosexual behavior and relationships are now going to accept absolutely no dissent. They’re going to purge public ranks wherever they have influence of anyone who had the temerity or the conviction, even years ago, to take even a minor step against their agenda. … Brendan Eich is now the first and most public casualty in this kind of effort to eradicate all dissent. He will not be the last. … it is now quite possible in a short amount of time to hound someone out of office and out of influence for having held such a position or having taken such an action even many years ago. In that sense, his resignation yesterday will become one of those landmark days in terms of the moral revolution. We’ll remember this day for many years to come.

So what are we as Christians to do in the face of such attacks against not only our beliefs, but also our rights to express them?

How do we sing the Lord’s song in a strange land which grows stranger by the day? Do we merely sit and weep and hang up our lyres on the willows? Or do we pick up our bugles and trumpet God’s truth in a world that doesn’t want to hear it? I vote for the later and with the Lord’s help, that is what I pledge to do.


Lisa Van Houten, American Decency 34 Comments [4/19/2014 4:47:32 AM]
Fundie Index: 19

Quote# 100607


For people whose chief mode of discourse consists of shouting and calling names, any time they encounter someone who doesn’t go along with them, libs ‘n’ progs and atheists and other specimens of the Far Left are surprisingly thin-skinned.

Like yesterday, when I referred to some of them as “servants of Satan,” there was a bit of yelling and screaming over that. Half of these people say they don’t believe in God anyhow, let alone the Devil–so what are they so riled up about?

Well, they seem to think it’s just me calling them names because they don’t agree with me.

Actually, there are a number of key moral issues in which God’s Word is clear and unambiguous–such as murder, adultery, homosexual acting-out, denial of Christ, and blasphemy against the Holy Ghost, to name a few. There is no verse in the Bible that endorses, justifies, defends, or promotes any of these behaviors. It’s not a matter of my opinion or interpretation. God has condemned these behaviors, and no two ways about it.

Being a servant of Satan involves more than just sinning. After all, we are all sinners; otherwise, we wouldn’t need a Savior. It’s like the difference between an ordinary homosexual, a sinner like the rest of us, and a flatline Protestant minister who performs same-sex parodies of marriage in his church. The latter is a servant of Satan. And in this day and age, we’ve raised up a bumper crop of them.

I don’t see why that should be hard to understand, except to those who don’t want to understand–maybe because a lot of their heroes are servants of Satan. Margaret Sanger, Richard Dawkins, Alfred Kinsey, the current occupier of the White House, Mikey Weinstein – we could spend a whole day listing them. But they are all servants of Satan, because they all preach and teach that evil is good, and good is evil; they all seek to nullify God’s laws; and they have all labored to create a world from which God’s laws are erased.

If that’s not serving Satan, what is?

Lee Duigon, BarbWire 33 Comments [4/19/2014 4:47:13 AM]
Fundie Index: 22

Quote# 100602

First, if you are Catholic and under the age of 60 or so, it is because the Church has been infiltrated by Marxist-homosexualists tasked with destroying the Church from the inside. Their father, satan, wants to convince as many people as possible that abortion is “morally neutral” or “contingent on the circumstances”. Beyond that, satan actually does want people to believe that aborted babies go to heaven so that eventually he can convince people that abortion can be a MORAL GOOD (like the woman above). Satan gets two things out of this.

A.) He maximizes the number of people who murder their own children and then DO NOT REPENT, thus dying in mortal sin and going to hell.

B.) The second thing satan achieves is keeping as many human beings from achieving that which he himself rejected and RAGES against: The Beatific Vision. Satan is willing to compromise and cut his losses. He’ll take the baby going to the Limbo of the Innocents, never seeing the Beatific Vision PLUS the damnation of the unrepentant mother AND the damnation of the apostate priests, nuns and clergy who told the woman that her abortion wasn’t a sin because “the baby is in heaven.” Why? Because NONE of those people is in heaven, and that is what satan wants.

If you are Protestant, you have never heard anything about this because Protestantism is intrinsically stupid and insipid. That’s it. Superfun Rockband church. Jimmy Swaggart. Brain dead Methodist “we’re just here to keep up appearances”. Don’t believe me? Okay. Ask your preacher/presider/facilitator/host on Sunday if aborted babies go to heaven, and after reading this, stand back and bask in the bumbling ignorance of his (or her, shudder) answer. Yep. You can almost visualize it right now, can’t you?

Ann Barnhardt, Barnhardt.biz 30 Comments [4/19/2014 4:46:32 AM]
Fundie Index: 24

Quote# 100601

[Colbert replaces Letterman]
What this hire means is a redefinition of what is ‘funny’ and a redefinition of what is comedy, and they’re blowing up the 11:30 format under the guise that the world’s changing and people don’t want the kind of comedy that Carson gave us or even Letterman.

They don’t want that anymore. It’s the media planting a flag here. I think it’s maybe the media’s last stand, but it’s a declaration. There’s no unity in this hire. They’ve hired a partisan so-called comedian to run a comedy show.

Rush Limbaugh, Washington Post 16 Comments [4/19/2014 4:46:20 AM]
Fundie Index: 15

Quote# 100599

[About the movie God's Not Dead:]

One character unceremoniously finishes a relationship because his girlfriend is diagnosed with terminal cancer. Admittedly few people would be that selfish, yet if Darwinian evolution is the only explanation for our existence surely he is just acting in a consistent way with his purpose of propagating his genes with a healthier woman?

Adrian Warnock, Patheos 17 Comments [4/19/2014 4:45:40 AM]
Fundie Index: 20
Submitted By: David

Quote# 100598



thelogicofstupid, The Logic of Stupid 28 Comments [4/19/2014 4:45:28 AM]
Fundie Index: 30
Submitted By: Wykked Wytch

Quote# 100589

[On the lack of women in racist groups]

As i said in my above post, Females ain't as Territorial as men are, if at all, no offence toward the females, but even they must admit such truth, that is usually left to the male population, although it wasn't in pre-conquest England, if it came to the crunch women would join the men and both sexes would fight side by side, but since the conquest that was changed, with all this Ladies, weaker sex and Damsels in distress crap..

Men and women are not seperate we are simply to halves of the human race, in Old Englisc there was no word for woman, both sexes were as one, in the word 'MANN'...

There was no battle of the Sexes, another invention by the Liberals and Feminists, no women's Lib. both sexes in pre-Conquest England Stood together, worked together, fought together and if it came to it Died together, that is how it should be now, we don't need the ideas and views and inventions of the Liberal-Lovvie/Left clouding the issue, we are all of one Tribe, the Englisc Tribe, we are Nationalists, not Lefties, we are Strong and tough because we are Nationalists, the Lefties and Feminists are weak, sensitive, big girls blouses, we are better than them because we follow the Natural ways, the Natural Law, the Strong Survive, the Weak go to the Wall, the Lefties are Weak so they go to the wall...

Teutoburg Weald, Anglo-Saxon Foundation 33 Comments [4/18/2014 3:20:12 AM]
Fundie Index: 22

Quote# 100588

Ironically, the wanton destruction of the Western nuclear family by feminist culture-warriors will inevitably bring some different form of marriage, because without some cooperation in child-rearing our population will simply die out and be replaced. Prime candidates include the Muslim paradigm, as in Afghanistan, or The Law of the Jungle, as in the Congo. Either way women are big trouble. East Asian style patriarchy is out, because it is proving to be just as susceptible to the ravages of Western family law as Western families.

W. F. Price, The Spearhead 25 Comments [4/18/2014 3:19:18 AM]
Fundie Index: 29

Quote# 100587

As I have long noted, there are only two forces at work in this world, the forces of God and the forces of Satan. It’s that simple. Every person is on one side or the other. There is no fence on which to sit. We know that Satan is currently the god of this world, although his reign is quickly coming to a close. He has great power at this time. He rules the powers of the air, which include the major media. He inspires the kings and leaders of the world to do his wicked will. Satan hates everything and everyone, and his sole purpose is to steal, kill and destroy God’s creation, and in this purpose, his chief weapon is deception.

[...]

The forces of the “Left” are the forces that seek to do the will of Satan. The army of human foot soldiers of the Left is fully on board with every Godless campaign in existence. They work to kill God-ordained freedoms wherever they’re found. They aggressively support the murder of pre-born babies. They proudly push the degeneracy of the sodomite agenda, working to tear down marriage and abolish our God-given rights to free association, expression, speech and religion. They hate private property and the rights attendant with it. Here in the United States, they are working to tear down our national sovereignty, to deconstruct our constitutional republic and replace it with tyrannical, centralized command-and-control governance. They support lawlessness in the illegal alien invasion. The list goes on.

[...]

I can already see the snarky report on this column at Right Wing Watch: “Gina Miller believes Right Wing Watch is a tool of the devil!” And for the record, yes, I most certainly do.

Gina Miller, BARBWIRE 27 Comments [4/18/2014 3:12:03 AM]
Fundie Index: 18
Submitted By: Night Jaguar

Quote# 100586

[On news that Willie Nelson is singing at a Wendy Davis fundraiser]

Doper, homosexualist and now abortionist sum up the life and times of one Willie Nelson. He may be a native Texan but doesn't share Texas values, the most important of which is the right to life.
Interesting that a Yankee transplant, drug-free Patriot Ted Nugent, embodies more of what Texas is all about than one of her native sons.

re_nortex, Free Republic 36 Comments [4/18/2014 3:11:55 AM]
Fundie Index: 13

Quote# 100585

Legislation that would make the Holy Bible the official state book of Louisiana cleared the House Committee on Municipal, Parochial and Cultural Affairs with a vote of 8-5 Thursday afternoon. It will now head to the full House of Representatives for consideration.

Rep. Thomas Carmody, R-Shreveport, originally filed a bill to declare a specific copy of the Bible, found in the Louisiana State Museum system, the official state book. But by the time he presented the proposal to the committee, he changed language in his legislation to make the generic King James version of the Bible, a text used worldwide, the official state book.

Carmody said his intention was not to mingle religion with government functions. "This is not about establishing an official religion," he said.

Still, Legislators became concerned that the proposal wasn't broad enough and did not reflect the breadth of Bibles used by religious communities. In particular, some lawmakers worried that singling out the King James version of the Bible would not properly reflect the culture of Louisiana. The Catholic Church, for example, does not use the King James text.

"Let's make this more inclusive of other Christian faiths, more than just the ones that use the King James version," said Rep. Stephen Ortego, D-Carencro.

A few committee members fought the bill vehemently, saying the legislation was likely to upset some citizens who are not Christian and open the state up to legal challenges.

"I am so bothered by this bill that I just called my pastor. My pastor just said that he thinks we are going to have a legal problem," said Rep. Wesley Bishop, D-New Orleans, who voted against the legislation.

Rep. Ebony Woodruff, D-Harvey, tried to amend the bill to declare "all books of faith" the official state books of Louisiana, but the proposal failed 5-8. When asked if he would be open to making "all books of faith" a group of official state books, Carmody was fairly adamant in his opposition.

"I would certainly be against that amendment," he said.

The American Civil Liberties Union of Louisiana already has concerns about the bill. "[The official state book] ought to be one that relates to the history of Louisiana and not one that is going to discriminate against a large number of Louisianans," said Majorie Esman, executive director of the organization. Esman declined to say whether the ACLU would fight the Holy Bible designation in court if it became law.

Michael Weil, who heads up the Jewish Federation of Greater New Orleans, said his organization -- which is cultural and not religious in nature -- hasn't take a stance on the bill. But the legislation gives him some personal pause.

"I think the state should consider a text that is not religious," he said.

Rep. Thomas Carmody, Nola.com/The Times-Picayune 23 Comments [4/18/2014 3:11:47 AM]
Fundie Index: 17

Quote# 100583

Everyone with a warrior woman fetish should watch the video, repeatedly, until they get it through their heads that women simply cannot fight men. Too small, too weak, too slow. See the ragdoll-flopping and the way she goes limp? That's from a single punch from a college-age man she assaulted who didn't see her attack coming and clearly isn't a trained fighter. She was lucky she only got a concussion; if he'd aimed a little lower, he'd probably have broken her jaw.

Vox Day, Vox Popoli 34 Comments [4/18/2014 3:10:50 AM]
Fundie Index: 30

Quote# 100571

The sinful notion that women should pursue careers and postpone motherhood is blasphemy against the Word of God. To “blaspheme“ here means to “vilify, speak irreverently.” It means that you are placing your will above God's, vilifying His Word as inferior to your own plans and intentions. I heard a TV commercial recently for the military. A man says concerning his sister, “It was awesome to see her transform from a girl in a small town into a soldier.” I think it's sickening! The Bible teaches for women to be “keepers at home.” There's no place in Christianity for hussies, dykes and feminists! You may join a false religion, attend an apostate so-called church and fool yourself into thinking that God is pleased with your sinful ways, but you are only deceiving yourself! American society is becoming increasingly hostile against the Bible, vilifying the truth.

The Bible teaches that women are to remain chaste, that is, sexually pure until marriage. This includes men as well. Sexual immorality brings the wrath and judgment of God (Colossians 3:5-6; Jude 1:7). Titus 2:4-5 teaches that women are to be “obedient to their own husbands.” A women who disobeys her husband is blaspheming the Bible. Most people disregard the Bible, rejecting it as man's final authority in all matters of life, faith and morals. Women who file for divorce do not love their husband and are blaspheming the Word of God. The word “discreet” in Titus 2:4-5 means “safe in mind, that is, self-controlled (moderate as to opinion or passion).” Women today are reckless, going from one relationship to another. When a woman says, “I'm not in a relationship right now,” she means that she has temporarily quit whoring around!

Jesus foretold in Matthew 24:37-39 that the end times would return to the wickedness it was in the days of Noah (when people were marrying and giving in marriage, that is, going from one marriage to another and another and another). People don't try to work out their marriage problems anymore, they just quit, divorce and move on. It is wickedness. Daniel said to wicked king Belshazzar, “...the God in whose hand thy breath is, and whose are all thy ways, hast thou not glorified” (Daniel 5:23). What a Bible verse! THE GOD IN WHOSE HAND THY BREATH IS, AND WHOSE ARE ALL THY WAYS, HAST THOU NOT GLORIFIED!!! This describes most Americans today... arrogant, sinfully proud, self-willed, lovers of pleasures and themselves. WHOSE GOD IS THEIR BELLY!!! Philippians 3:19, “Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.”

When a women wears sensual clothing in public, she is blaspheming the Word of God. The Lord gave us His commandments to instruct us how to live, how to treat each other and how to please Him. Yet, man is inherently evil and prone to disobedience and wrath (Jeremiah 17:9; Ephesians 2:2-3). Most people don't care about the coming judgment which the Bible warns about. Most people don't believe the Bible. Most people have believed the lie that men wrote the Bible to control other men, as a form of religious manipulation. Yet, they believe such nonsense without having done even the least bit of research into the matter.

David J. Stewart, Jesus-is-Savior.com 64 Comments [4/17/2014 3:15:33 AM]
Fundie Index: 38
Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 100569

[Another fundie has shared an article about rising carbon dioxide levels.]

This whole CO2/man caused global warming thing is pure hokum. I'm an environmental engineer and I have yet to see any credible links to CO2 and man caused global warming. Al Gore and the media have glommed onto this ridiculousness and have completely bamboozled the public at large. If you want to see the real "cause" of cyclical global temperatures simply look at the sun..it's as simple as that. Sadly, SO many people have been duped into believing that carbon (CO2) is causing all the catastrophic global weather. Because so many have been duped they actually think that they, as exhalers of CO2, are part of the problem; their "carbon footprint" must be reduced to help solve the problem. It's unadulterated balderdash! The door has been kicked open for environmental regulators to control what we all do by legislating fossil fuel usage. It's just a matter of time before we're all paying a carbon tax to help mitigate our share of the problem that we're causing. This is just one more way a math/science-ignorant public are getting duped and led down the primrose path. As Christians, for us to believe this malarkey is to believe that God wasn't smart enough to anticipate the mass balance of critical elements like oxygen, Carbon, and the like. Are we really to believe that God's creation is somehow out of control and that he blew it in His design for all that He knew He Himself would allow mankind to learn vis a vis technological advancements? Are we really to believe that the very gas that green plants need to survive and photosynthesize O2 for us is actually a pollutant? Really? Unbelievable!! Don't believe the lie!! Just take a look at how radical environmental regulations are damaging the agricultural economy of California. Unreal!!! This is all about the radical environmental movement on the left to further destroy America by making it nearly impossible for manufacturers to be competitive, not to mention building new power plants. Have environmental regulations improved our air, water, and land? Yes! But it's out of control and being used as a weapon against American capitalism, our economy, and freedoms. The whole man caused global warming bologney was shown to be hokum several years ago but appears to be re-emerging. What we're seeing on the earth regarding the earth's ecological systems appearing to be coming apart at the seams is nothing but prophecy playing out right before our eyes.

vbf, Rapture Ready 46 Comments [4/17/2014 3:15:19 AM]
Fundie Index: 26
Submitted By: documentingtehcrazy

Quote# 100568

Thanks to what I suspect is your Gododgery we are are now talking at cross purposes.
The only points I am making is that the existential stakes of various beliefs are different.
If Kevin the pixie is true then by rejeccting him all I face is not having him provide honey for my toast.
If I reject what some claims of God claim and they are true I face self alienation and alienation from all.Those are different stakes if true.
All positions regarding any belief are themselves beliefs but they do not hold equal existential stakes.

To believe that there is no self to exist and so all existential thought is meaningless is a belief position which has a low existential stake
since there is no self to be existential...on the other hand it could be a philosophical ''put up job'' to avoid ''commitment'' to a more comprehensive existential position.

Bluehillside is fundementally asking us to believe in the elephant in the room of no Gods on a belief position which has low existential stake.



Whatever happened to the leprechauns?, Religion and Ethics 35 Comments [4/16/2014 3:22:35 AM]
Fundie Index: 36
Submitted By: NearlySane

Quote# 100565

Paternalism grows out of the “big man” societies in which there is a top-down system for wealth redistribution. All wealth flows to the chief, and he doles it out to his subjects, often favoring those who support him or otherwise please him.

...

Ultimately, in some cases, this led to the development of a formalized system of patriarchy, in which it was legally recognized that each male householder had a privileged status in regards to his own family, if nothing else, which gave rise to the practice of patrilineal descent. This laid the groundwork for the development of civilization from barbarism, as taxation and patronage now required recordkeeping and certain conditions. A shift then began to occur away from a purely paternalistic society to one in which rulers had to adhere to laws that placed controls on their wealth collection and redistribution. Thus, social hierarchies flourished, social organization solidified, and increasingly large and complex forms of government evolved.

...

To increase revenue and political support, [politicians] have promoted and passed laws that shatter the concept of the patriarchal family. A few examples include preferential maternal custody, decriminalization of adultery, introducing no-fault divorce and preferential welfare to single mothers. Gay marriage, which is essentially a formal declaration that the government does not recognize patriarchy as valid or supported by any law or policy at all, is the latest example.

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So, what we’re really facing today is not matriarchy, but an increasingly despotic paternalism, in which men’s autonomy and authority is being steadily eroded in the interests of those in power. Our intimate relationships, our conditions of employment, and taxes all conspire to subjugate us to the powerful, who are working steadily to remove any checks on their own power and challenges to their authority. Almost every government-led initiative, whether it be population replacement through immigration, women’s “empowerment,” or highway checkpoints leads in this direction.

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In the meanwhile, as men, we should hold out not for “equality” with women, which will never, ever, turn out equal, but a more desirable system of democratic patriarchy, in which all men are afforded equal rights to independence in their own homes and affairs and freedom from arbitrary paternalism.

W. F. Price, The Spearhead 35 Comments [4/16/2014 3:19:19 AM]
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