Quote# 98869

*Speaking of the Catholic Church*

What makes you think that? They've abandoned the traditional Latin Mass in the West and Greek Mass in the East (Divine Liturgy as you call it) along with many of the old Catholic dogmas that we shared with our Orthodox and Anglican brothers while attempting to be more like Protestants in an attempt to win them over. In these attempts at appeasement, we are losing what it means to be Catholic, what it once meant to be a member of the Church that was founded by Christ down through Peter and his successors.

The new Pope's endorsement of the welfare state and his tolerance of homosexuality and so on are just the beginning of a whole new sort of decline that will end in complete irrelevancy for the Church.

Irredento, Nationstates 37 Comments [1/20/2014 4:11:01 AM]
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Quote# 98866

Muslims Kill Christians, Bottle Their Blood, And Sell It For $100,000 A Piece To Saudis

A nun in Germany has recently done a presentation in a conference of an independent investigation she conducted of the treatment of Christians in Syria under the hands of Muslim fundamentalists. She revealed that Muslims are butchering Christians, draining their blood in bottles, and selling each bottle for $100,000 to Muslims in Saudi Arabia who take it to wash their hands in Christian blood, with the belief that it atones for their sins.

Walid Shoebat, Shoebat.com 53 Comments [1/20/2014 4:09:28 AM]
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Quote# 98865

[Mrs. Bacharach responded to an article by Piper Hoffman, a married but childfree Jewish woman.]

So many Jewish children, lives and families were killed and ended by Hitler, destroying generation upon generations of Jewish continuity. But if we don't have children at all, we are even worse than Hitler. We are not even giving the beautiful waiting souls a chance to lead a meaningful Jewish life. And even more so, if we don't give our children a chance to know what being Jewish means and give them a true, all-encompassing Jewish education, we are destroying Judaism at its core.

Yes, you and your husband will have to work together to figure out how to raise your children in a way that they can connect to our rich Jewish heritage that builds such a truly wonderful life.

Piper, I don't mean to hurt you at all, and I apologize if I touched a raw nerve. I was offended by your article.

[...]

Maybe, one day, Piper, our kids can have a play date? I think we would connect well and we'll have so much fun!

Dina Bacharach, Jewish News 33 Comments [1/20/2014 4:09:09 AM]
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Submitted By: Wykked Wytch

Quote# 98856

Ladies and gentlemen, FOX News is now a liberal news channel:

"The Fox News Channel heavily promotes RINO Backers -- commentators who may appear to be conservative but side with RINOs just when it matters most. Examples include Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, Karl Rove, and Rush Limbaugh, who savaged Todd Akin for making a pro-life statement pointing out that pregnancy from rape is rare due to feminine biology. The Fox News Channel gave Karl Rove a platform to raise money against pro-life Republican candidates.
Even center-right pundit Sarah Palin is too conservative for Fox News Channel, as when it canceled some of her interviews at a key political moment in August 2012,[1] and then refused to renew her contract. And Fox News believes that the former guatemalan president Efraín Ríos Montt was a dictator.[2]"

Andy Schlafly, Conservapedia, FOX news 65 Comments [1/19/2014 1:25:43 PM]
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Submitted By: Elie Challita

Quote# 98849

Unfortunately, the medical community realized two things: 1) killing unborn children is REALLY profitable and 2) they needed to revise the Hippocratic Oath to still be considered ‘doctors’.

[...]

To be clear, an abortionist is NOT A DOCTOR, no matter how many times the Hippocratic Oath is rewritten.

cultureshift, In Defense of the Defenseless 36 Comments [1/19/2014 9:28:36 AM]
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Submitted By: Wykked Wytch

Quote# 98848

I’m going to be totally honest. I’m pro-life, from the moment of conception, in every scenario.
1. If you’re raped, that’s terrible. However, that baby you’re carrying didn’t rape you and rape does not justify murder. Also, I think pro-choicers understand how few abortions are in rape cases.
2. If you can’t handle even carrying a baby to term and delivering it, DON’T HAVE SEX. IT’S NOT NECESSARY TO YOUR LIFE, I PROMISE.
3. I understand that even if abortion was illegal, woman would still try to have them. I understand that it’s more dangerous that way. Quite frankly, if you ruin your health or get yourself hurt or killed trying to kill your own child, I really have no sympathy for you. I don’t for any other type or murderer who dies in the process.

Like, I know this is harsh, but I am so ridiculously sick of only seeing pro-choice crap on my dash. Abortion ends a life. There can be no denying that.

inkbleedingdreams, inkbleedingdreams 58 Comments [1/19/2014 9:28:29 AM]
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Submitted By: Wykked Wytch

Quote# 98846

boys don't sit quietly accepting a list of things for them to memorize like girls do. They will challenge you as to "why"...why do we have to learn this, why is this important, why is it true, etc. Boys are active learners. They don't want to be told something, they want it demonstrated to them. They want the arguments that lead to a conclusion, not just to memorize conclusion after conclusion. They take risks, they question, they dissect, they evaluate. Women just sit calmly and absorb what they are told.

That is just one way. The inclusion of bias, sexist, second-rate female writers who are hostile to boys are included along with the great writers in history for the sake of being PC. Is another way.

There is no active learning because girls can't follow it and female teachers can't deliver it. 90% of the learning disabilities today are from boys. Boys didn't just become learning disabled all of a sudden. Women just don't know how to teach boys anymore. They try to teach them like they teach the girls and boys aren't interested in that. Boys want movement, demonstrations, pictures, stories, they want to question, they want to challenge, etc. They don't learn from sitting quietly and memorizing whatever they are given.


Darin88, Yahoo Answers 36 Comments [1/19/2014 9:03:10 AM]
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Quote# 98840

I challenge anyone to show me, where in the constitutional ratifying conventions, same sex marriages were made a right? Moreover, the 14th amendment created no new rights. It pertained strictly to freed slaves not rights for such antichrist behavior. The federal government was created to promote Christianity, thus the phrase,"In the year of OUR LORD". First chief justice John Jay made this absolutely clear in document one of the Federalist Paper. The churches need to read the history of religion in this nation. Separation of church and state is a lie by antichrists like judge Hugo Black. Nor did Jefferson ever say such in his reply letter to the Danbury Baptist. He said the federal government cannot be used by another Christian denomination to force them to do as they do, thus creating a 'wall of separation'. The states still could support Christianity only and nothing else. Antichrists have gotten in positions in the government to promote the government of Satan to war against heaven on earth which is why Christ will destroy all governments of man upon His return.

Allen Smiley, USA Today 37 Comments [1/19/2014 9:02:11 AM]
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Submitted By: Nemo

Quote# 98832

More and more frequently, I see young, male, Jewish tourists coming to the Kotel with as many as three earrings. Some of the older young men also sport huge, ugly tattoos. After putting tefillin on them, I take their pictures and try to include a picture of them answering the following question:

“When you get married, who is going to wear the pants in the family?”

“Well, surely,” each teenage boy strongly asserts himself, “I am!”

“Then who is going to wear the earrings?” I ask. They freeze, smile sheepishly, look away from me, and try to laugh it off. That’s when I snap the picture. I want them to have a picture of what they looked like when they realized just how foolish they look with those earrings. “Nu? Which side of the fence are you going to be on?” I ask, using the mechitza (modesty fence that separates the men and women) as a metaphor for clear-cut gender roles. They usually giggle and try to come up with some kind of compromise answer.

“We both are!” they sometimes suggest.

“Then you both are going to wear the pants, too!” I tell them. “Either she is going to wear the pants and you are going to wear the jewelry, or you are going to wear the pants and she is going to wear the jewelry. Which is it going to be?” They always laugh, but the message gets through.

Reb Gutman Locks, Mystical Paths 46 Comments [1/18/2014 6:36:02 AM]
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Quote# 98828

If evolution were true...

Why does all life require 20 amino acids which are extremely complex, oxidize and are destroyed by oxygen, and favor only right handed molecules.

Wouldnt it be logical that early life would have evolved from a single amino acid and worked its way from a simple amino acid to more complex amio acids before finally becoming a multi-amino acid life form?

But the "earliest life form" uses 20 amino acids all right handed and lives off glucose.

$hit.

ID_Neon, IMDb 37 Comments [1/18/2014 5:16:51 AM]
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Submitted By: Kevin Klawitter

Quote# 98827

Reasons the grand canyon disproves evolution

This thread is about how the grand canyon could not have been formed by uplift like "scientists" say.

1) unlike all other areas claimed to habe uplifted, Great basin, Tibetan Plateau, numerous mountain ranges, the Grand canyon plateau is remarkably flat.

2) uplift causes faulting, which doesnt really occur in the frequency of an uplift zone, and uplifting often diverts rivers so why is the colorado not diverted elsewhere by a fault?

The colorado river could not have carved the grand canyon because it goes from lower elevation to higher elevation unless you try to explain this away by uplift which for two obvious reasons, isnt occurring.

Furthermore, the Nile and the Mississippi are both much older than the colorado river, especially the mississippi, both have massive deltas and no massive canyon.

Yet the colorado going thru the grand canyon has almost no delta.

Since the rate of uplift us argued to be the same now as before the delta should be bigger than the other two rivers because of the massive amounts of sediment being removed.

Right?

ID_Neon, IMDb 44 Comments [1/18/2014 4:12:07 AM]
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Submitted By: Kevin Klawitter

Quote# 98826

You need to keep in mind that death is not the same thing as annihilation. God has never destroyed/annihilated any person He created. People are God’s creation and thus belong to Him. It is His moral right to take them when He deems fit. Now you ask why would God take a baby? Of course God does not answer to you; He is not obliged to tell you His reason, but He always has one because He is ultimately moral. We could speculate. One reason might be that God knows the future that the child would have had in this world, one leading perhaps to great wickedness that God has mercifully decided not to unleash on the world, nor the greater eternal torment for the child as a result of such wickedness. You may not emotionally like the way God rules His universe, but there is nothing illogical or immoral about it as you had claimed. You are not in a position to evaluate whether God had sufficient moral reasons for His actions because (1) you are wicked not righteous, and thus your view of morality is necessarily distorted, (2) you cannot see the “big picture” – only God has all knowledge, and (3) you have no basis for any sort of objective morality apart from God by which you could judge Him

Jason Lisle, Jason Lisle's blog 40 Comments [1/18/2014 4:11:19 AM]
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Submitted By: Tony

Quote# 98820

Most of the people in this world are championing the gay lifestyle like never before. Where were all the gays 50 years ago? I am sure there were not hoards (like there are today) of gays in the closet during that time so I just can't grasp the high number of gays that are coming out and love being so in our faces.

I am beginning to wonder if this is more of a liberal agenda (they love keeping God in His place) than there are actual true homosexuals.

My goodness, so many are jumping on the bandwagon in their middle years and older after a couple marriages and children. Huh?

HugsFromJesus, Rapture Ready 39 Comments [1/18/2014 4:10:33 AM]
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Submitted By: documentingtehcrazy

Quote# 98811

American government should gather up Muslims and put them in camps or send them back home until their loyalties can be separated out..Democratic President Roosevelt rounded up all Japanese Americans in the country and incarcerated them the duration of WWll except for a number who volunteered too join military and fight for freedom of Americans and America. Innocents kept caught up in the ugliness of the demonic Jihadist types like Hitler, Stalin, Castro, Chavez and those brain miniatures want slaves made of their populations while they live as royalty....Kind of like Obama!

Phyllis Murphey, USA Today 54 Comments [1/17/2014 4:32:17 AM]
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Submitted By: Nemo

Quote# 98804

As for misandry, I don’t think it will ever go away. Let’s be honest here: men will always try to beat each other to gain some advantage over their competitors. Even Paul Elam, who proclaims himself to be the primary advocate for men, has spent plenty of effort in attempts to discredit and dominate his male opposition, just like an alpha male chimpanzee. It’s just the way the world works. Women have evolved to take advantage of this, and will switch from one male to the other depending on who they think is dominant at any given moment.

Feminism is really the result of elite men giving women free rein to crap on other men. Manginas are men who think they can capture some of this top-alpha pixie dust for endless pussy and power. Thing is, hardly any manginas measure up to masters like Bill Clinton, which is why most of them fail.

But we can see it in other cultures, too. Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, for example, was totally pro-feminist. So was Hosni Mubarak, Muamar Kadhafi, etc. It’s all about putting the other men in their place. Women are just the eternal beneficiaries of politicized misandry, the proper word for which should simply be “warfare.” Men make war, and women just go from one victor to another. They are hard-wired to hate “losers,” and there’s nothing mysterious about it. They make their sympathies crystal clear all the time. For God’s sake, Gloria Steinem – an 80yo crone today – is basking in ecstasy (shudder) after receiving a “medal of freedom” from Barack Obama, just like she got off on fooling around with ugly, troll-like Henry Kissinger back in the 70s.

It’s up to us “lesser men” to fight for ourselves and be vigilant, because it always ends up this way.

W. F. Price, The Spearhead 28 Comments [1/17/2014 4:28:03 AM]
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Quote# 98803

A conservative judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit argued on Monday that women who were 150 miles from the nearest abortion clinic because of new restrictions passed by the state last year could drive at least 75 miles an hour and their rights would not be infringed.

At a Monday hearing in New Orleans, lawyers for the Center for Reproductive Rights explained to a three judge panel that the new abortion restrictions meant that women in the Rio Grande Valley must make a 300-mile round trip to the nearest clinic in Corpus Christi to obtain care.

Judge Edith Jones, however, seemed unconcerned, informing lawyers that the speed limit was 75 miles an hour.

"Do you know how long that takes in Texas at 75 miles an hour?" she asked. "This is a peculiarly flat and not congested highway."

Think Progress pointed out on Tuesday that Texas requires women to go through an ultrasound, counseling and a mandatory 24-hour waiting period before obtaining an abortion. So, women in the Rio Grande Valley would have to make the 300-mile round trip to Corpus Christi twice.

Jones, who was appointed to the Fifth Circuit by former President Ronald Reagan in 1985, is currently facing a judicial review for suggesting that Hispanics and African-Americans were "predisposed to crime."

Judge Edith Jones, The Raw Story 26 Comments [1/17/2014 4:20:47 AM]
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Submitted By: Wykked Wytch

Quote# 98802

The former Vice Principal of Eastside Catholic high school who was fired when administrators discovered he had married hismale partner revealed today that he could have kept his job if he had gotten a divorce.

Mark Zmuda said in an interview with one of his former students that the Catholic school's president, Sister Mary Tracy, informed him that if he consented to divorce his husband, he could keep his job.

Catholic doctrine considers divorce "a grave offense against the natural law."

So Zmuda, a practicing Catholic, was surprised when Sister Mary Tracy recommended divorce as a remedy for his dismissal. "I thought...they were against was also divorce," he said in the interview. "I'm a little shocked that was even on the table to have me keep my job. They also offered for me to have a commitment ceremony if I were willing to get a divorce."

School attorney Mike Patterson disputes the claim that Zmuda was fired, claiming that he offered to resign after the December meeting with Sister Mary Tracy. He also claimed the divorce suggestion was "purely hypothetical."

Sister Mary Tracy, The Raw Story 18 Comments [1/17/2014 4:10:22 AM]
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Submitted By: Wykked Wytch

Quote# 98800

The closest thing the agnostic world-view can produce to a Satan is either a dictator (oddly reminiscent of agnostic himself) a Republican, or a Southerner. Other than that, they can only portray villains who manifest physical dangers, such as ax murderers and serial killers. Because of their philosophy, people who pose real dangers, such as Islamic terrorists, cannot be portrayed at all, but only people who post no danger in real life but instead produce benefits necessary to life and civilization, such as industrialists, merchants, soldiers, priests, mothers who love their children.

Other magnificent villains of the Christian imagination, creatures such as Don Juan or Faustus, cannot be produced by the agnostic imagination. When there is no white field on which the black wolf is outlined, there is nothing for the moral imagination to see.

If your view of the universe includes as its only moral principle to indulge in vacuous, vain, vulgar or perverse pleasures, and if gluttony and lust define your highest ambition of what you call good, and the only evil in your view of the universe is whatever prudence or authority hinders your boring orgy of self-indulgence, and your only foeman is he whose hand hold you back from suicide, then you can imagine only one villain, a father figure or Pharisee, and he can be guilty of only one crime, hypocrisy, the sin of claiming an authority to which he has no right.

Your villain cannot be craven, or intemperate, or unchaste, or foolish with foolish arrogance, since these are the qualities of your hero. (Of course, real hedonist and nihilist authors rarely portray such protagonists as their philosophy would demand: they merely borrow concepts and standards from chivalric Christian ideals or Homeric pagan ideals, employing them out of context, and with perhaps less than perfect artistic integrity.)

So we cannot leave the fantasy world to the clumsy hands of the agnostics and skeptics. By and large, they can write fair to middling satires of fantasy, but they cannot write classics of fantasy. For something greater than satire, we need Christians like Tolkien or pagans like Howard.

John C. Wright, John C. Wright's Journal 47 Comments [1/17/2014 4:09:15 AM]
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Submitted By: David

Quote# 98799

So the Christian writer who decides to put a good witch like Glinda or Hermione or Samantha Stevens or Willow Rosenberg in his story runs the risk that some impressionable schoolgirl out in the crumbling wilderness of the modern world will decide that the path to self-respect and self-actualization is to don a pointy hat and take up her wand, go to an abortion mill, and sacrifice a baby girl to Moloch. One never knows, O Christian writer, whether the last story that schoolgirl read before she read yours was THE GOLDEN COMPASS or INTERVIEW WITH A VAMPIRE or BLINDSIGHT, or some other work firmly in the camp and flying the black banners of the Culture of Death.

John C. Wright, John C. Wright's Journal 49 Comments [1/17/2014 4:06:03 AM]
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Submitted By: David

Quote# 98798

“But if your husband has sexually molested the children, you should approach him with it. If he is truly repentant (not just exposed) and is willing to seek counseling, you may feel comfortable giving him an opportunity to prove himself…. Stick by him, but testify against him in court. Have him do about 10 to 20 years, and by the time he gets out, you will have raised the kids, and you can be waiting for him with open arms of forgiveness and restitution. Will this glorify God? Forever. You ask, “What if he doesn’t repent even then?” Then you will be rewarded in heaven equal to the martyrs, and God will have something to rub in the Devil’s face. God hates divorce — always, forever, regardless, without exception.”

Debi Pearl, Salon 37 Comments [1/17/2014 4:05:10 AM]
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Quote# 98797

I've experienced "sleep paralysis" about a dozen times in the past and these experiences have stopped. "Sleep paralysis" is demonic. I have seen and spoke with the demons and saw one at the foot of my bed. Every time I called on the Lord Jesus Christ, they left me. Twice I found myself out of my body. Scientists call it "sleep paralysis" but if you examine the dream you were having before it happened, you will realize it was evil spirits trying to possess you.

If you make Jesus Christ your Lord and Saviour, He will give you authority over Satan and all his demons.

"Dear Jesus,

I am a sinner.
I repent of my sins.
Please forgive me and save me by your shed blood;
come into my heart.
I want to receive you as my own personal Lord and savior.

Amen"

If it happens again, say "I command you to leave me now in the name of my Lord Jesus Christ!" and have faith in the Lord Jesus. If the unclean spirits see that your faith is too strong for them, they will leave you alone for good.

V, Y! answers 34 Comments [1/17/2014 4:04:53 AM]
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Quote# 98796

It is readily observable that there is no such thing as a static sexual abnormality. Was Ian Watkins always a pedophile? Was the thrice-married Meredith Baxter Birney always a lesbian? The dynamic sin model explains observable human behavior rather better than most of the scientific alternatives, particularly the static ones. Regardless, whether it is a simple choice or a curable psychological disorder, the idea that homosexuality is always and necessarily a permanently fixed orientation is demonstrably false. Any homosexual who dares to question this, much less dispute it, must be asked why they deny science. And statistics.


UPDATE: This objection on Twitter made me laugh. Critics, it might help to keep in mind you're dealing with a superintelligence before you say something stupid, all right? I'm smarter than you are. Just assume that even if you don't believe it; it may save you some embarrassment. That doesn't mean I'm always right, it just means that you're probably wrong.

Buttercup Dew: "Your logic doesn't follow? I was "bisexual" as a teen, now unambiguously homosexual. You decided conclusion and worked backwards."

To which I responded: "No, my logic is correct. You prove the point. The fact of the delta is what matters, not the direction."

Vox Day, Vox Popoli 48 Comments [1/17/2014 4:04:43 AM]
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Quote# 98790

If you are a woman reading this, you have already submitted to a man, whether you’re aware of it or not. And the louder you deny it, the greater the likelihood that you’ve submitted to a bad man, one who abuses and uses you.

The state of woman is submissiveness, now and forever.

There is no way to escape it, short of putting a bullet into your brain. I don’t care how “strong” or “independent” you think you are, how much money you make, or how “equal” you think your relationship with your husband/boyfriend is: if you are female, you have submitted to the rule of a man. And when you think you’re rebelling against masculine authority, all you’re doing is exchanging one master for another.

...

It is woman’s lot in life to be ruled by man, not because of men but because of women themselves. In the absence of immediate masculine authority, women will chain themselves to anything that promises them food on the table and a warm place to sleep. And while women may chafe at their husbands’ or fathers’ yokes, even if they break free, they just find another man to kneel to. They’re trapped in a neverending cycle of submission and rebellion, never once realizing what they’re doing.

Sorry, ladies: as loudly as you may crow about how “strong” you are, you live in a gilded cage. You get to redecorate your cage whenever you want, but you can never, ever leave, except to move to another cage.

Matt Forney, Matt Forney 51 Comments [1/16/2014 3:36:03 PM]
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Quote# 98786

[This is an actual Haredi Jewish poster put up in Monsey, New York about the guidelines for "modest clothing."]



Haredi poster, Failed Messiah.com 48 Comments [1/16/2014 4:30:02 AM]
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Submitted By: Wykked Wytch

Quote# 98784

[Another fundies has stated that they believe that the "homosexual agenda" is just a diversion from more important issues.]

I respectfully disagree that "Homosexuality" is making something out of nothing. Homosexuality is "something", it is NOT "nothing". Maybe Satan thinks it is "Something from Nothing" but our God does not, Satan is striking right at one of the core beliefs of our God. Our precious Word of God clearly stands against such perverted acts. Homosexuality today has drawn a hard line between those who agree with it or/and practice it and those who stand wholly against it. We have rarely had an agenda that so readily divided the people. Satan hates all people believers and unbelievers, but he has an agenda to take as many people to "hell" with him as possible. Satan has successfully drawn this line and has successfully persuaded governments and peoples of all sizes and shapes to accept his agenda and push it hard all those who do not accept it, thus exposing "True Christians" as haters. Since the days of Moses the people (all people) have accepted the "Ten Commandments" as being a moral code and standard to live by as presented by the one true God. Never has a hard line been drawn on any of the Ten Commandments, it has been accepted that breaking any of the Ten Commandments is wrong and their are harsh consequences, but since we are sinners we fail, we fall, however, a hard core line has never been drawn as to parse out and expose the haters of the commandments vs believers of the commandments. Homosexuality has drawn that line. Those on the Satanic side of that line will suffer Sodom and Gomorrah style deaths to the FULL DELIGHT of Satan, those on the other side will be spared the wrath to come. Thus Satan will do everything in his deceptive power to expose the "haters" of homosexuality, that they may be exposed, persecuted and potentially persuaded to join the Satanic camp prior to the wrath of God being poured out, while he has time.

So YES homosexuality is something... and it is a huge abomination towards our wonderful, precious glorious God in heaven. Which side are you on?

In Christ, Rapture Ready 45 Comments [1/16/2014 4:28:11 AM]
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Submitted By: documentingtehcrazy