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Quote# 96006

For us in the Muslim world female circumcision is, above all else, obedience to Islam, which means acting in accordance with the fitrah and following the Sunnah which encourages it. We all know the dimensions of Islam, and that everything in it must be good in all aspects, including health aspects. If the benefits are not apparent now, they will become known in the future, as has happened with regard to male circumcision – the world now knows its benefits and it has become widespread among all nations despite the opposition of some groups.
Then she mentioned some of the health benefits of female circumcision and said:
1) It takes away excessive libido from women
2) It prevents unpleasant odours which result from foul secretions beneath the prepuce.
3) It reduces the incidence of urinary tract infections.
4) It reduces the incidence of infections of the reproductive system.

Sitt al-Banaat Khaalid, Askimam.org 48 Comments [8/16/2013 3:23:50 AM]
Fundie Index: 58

Quote# 96000

Have you ever wondered about the flag of the European Union: 12 gold stars on a blue background. Back in 1993-4 when I was researching for the first book I was attempting to write, Europe and the Beast, I got in touch with some EU officials to ask about the EU flag.......what did the 12 gold stars represent and would they eventually increase in number as other nations joined the European Union? The answer I was given was that the number of gold stars would remain the same (12) choose how many nations might join the Union. I was also told that the number 12 represented either the 12 just men on a jury (signifying JUSTICE, the notion of a JUST union) or the 12 disciples of Jesus Christ (can you believe that!).
Now, I am a firm believer that the EU is morphing into the final version (the world-ruling version with the Antichrist at its head) of the Roman Empire that we read about in Daniel. I feel the EU will come to be the main hub of a possibly ten-spoked wheel (other power blocks, such as the African Union etc., being the subordinate spokes).
As Christians, we know the devil, right from the time of Adam and Eve, has always tended to mock God whenever he can. The woman in Revelation 12 represents Israel; she has a crown of twelve stars on her head (symbolic of the 12 tribes of Israel). The EU flag has a crown of 12 gold stars on a blue background. The colours gold and blue are highly significant in the garments of Israel's high priests (Exodus 28).
I do feel the Antichrist, under Satan's influence, will, for a time, set himself up to be the one true god and ruler of the world. He will try his best to destroy the nation of Israel; and all this under a mocking emblem of the high-priestly colours and the crown of 12 stars which represent the very apple of God's eye!

ColinH3, Rapture Ready 34 Comments [8/16/2013 3:22:24 AM]
Fundie Index: 21
Submitted By: Robert

Quote# 95995

Have you ever even HEARD the way that they pray to Atheist? They jump around like chimpanzees because remember they believe that ATheist made mankind from Chimpanzees and monkies. They howl and hoop like chimpanzees during their profane prayers to Atheist. It is a terrible sight. They eat banannas afterwards and pick fleas from the grass. ATheist is SATAN. They cannot see this. REAd the BIBLE.

SO FRAIL, Yahoo answers  63 Comments [8/16/2013 3:21:11 AM]
Fundie Index: 57
Submitted By: B K

Quote# 95993

[Fundies have been discussing why they believe in Jesus.]

The veracity of the Bible is absolutely the cleanest logic anyone truly seeking Truth can wrestle with.

But, even if it were a fable and we are placing our faith and hope in Jesus in vain, whom have we hurt by believing in Him and following in His footsteps? (He brings out the best efforts in mankind, one must admit!)

mbrown1219, Rapture Ready 27 Comments [8/16/2013 3:20:29 AM]
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Submitted By: Robert

Quote# 95992

[I just think most new ideas are wrong and their proponents overconfident.]

Then presumably you think that the entire progressive agenda must be wrong, seeing as for the last two thousand years it would have been perceived as evil and insane, seeing as pretty much every taken for granted progressive verity was, before it became an article of faith, dismissed by progressives as a slippery slope argument.

For example, until the mid nineteenth century, everyone knew that female sexuality was so powerful, irrational, destructive, and self destructive that women needed their sex lives supervised for their own good, and everyone else's good. Everyone knew that democracy was stupid and evil because the masses would eventually try to vote themselves rich, and end up electing Caesar. Everyone knew that if you tried to tax more than five or ten percent, it would hose the economy, and you would wind up with less tax revenue. Everyone knew ...

I expect you to agree with me that we went of the rails when we emancipated women and gave the vote to every adult male.

sam0345, LessWrong 33 Comments [8/16/2013 3:20:13 AM]
Fundie Index: 27
Submitted By: David

Quote# 95991

Every long established functional family that I am aware of, where the couple remained married, the grown up children love and respect their parents, and so on and so forth, is quietly and furtively eighteenth century. Dad is the boss. When the kids were kids, Dad was the head of the family. The family was one person, and that person was Dad. Mum picked up the socks.

So, eighteenth century did it right, and it has all been social decay since Queen Victoria was crowned.

Show me a family where husband and wife fairly share the task of picking up the socks, and I will show you a family where dad sleeps on the couch and Mum's lovers visit every week or so to use the main bed.

It is just not in women's nature to have sex with their equals, so the egalitarian family just does not function. Legal measures to make it egalitarian invariably backfire and fail to have the desired effect. Maybe after some millenia of evolution, women will evolve the capability to have sex with their equals, but right now, does not work.

sam0345, LessWrong 39 Comments [8/16/2013 3:18:32 AM]
Fundie Index: 29
Submitted By: David

Quote# 95990

In a bench conference during Louisville Metro Councilwoman Barbara Shanklin’s fiery misconduct trial, her lawyer said the prosecutor couldn’t be trusted to tell the truth because he “does not believe in God” or in “heaven or hell.”

“What guides him morally?” defense lawyer Aubrey William, who is an ordained minister, asked about attorney David Tachau. “What compels him to tell the truth?

“He will say anything,” Williams said, according to a transcript of the bench conference Wednesday before Council Court Chairman Jim King that was obtained by The Courier-Journal.

Aubrey Williams, The Courier-Journal 26 Comments [8/16/2013 3:18:05 AM]
Fundie Index: 37
Submitted By: emau99

Quote# 95989

Mother Earth scratches her itches... earthquakes are increasing in size and intensity… volcanoes are becoming active… magma is sloshing… strange weather worldwide… oceanic buoys all over the world, are rising and falling several hundred feet… mother earth is shifting from a dense carbon-based body, to a silica-based crystalline body…. in the process the world’s crystals are becoming active…. when these crystals activate they vibrate to a refined frequency which further cause vibratory release of storied kinetic energy… essentially violent//anti-christ thoughts of war, control, hate, separation, and fear, are stored in mother earth… she is now COMPLETELY releasing the last 13000 years+ of that energy, just as each of us are releasing dense energy stored in our DNA from past grievances of our ancestors. This process of cleansing or birthing if you will, will continue until mother earth gives birth to her new body… those who choose to give birth to their own lightbodies, will remain with her… those who resist their spiritual awakening, may die a physical death during this time.

Indian in the Machine, Before It's News 24 Comments [8/16/2013 3:17:53 AM]
Fundie Index: 28
Submitted By: JohnTheAtheist

Quote# 95985

So why do unbelievers wish for God not to exist? They do so because they hate him. They hate the idea of anyone being on the throne other than themselves. They hate the idea that someone else can tell them what to do. Since Genesis 3, man has sought to take whatever he desires without saying grace over it. “I’ll have whatever is pleasing to my eyes and no one will tell me otherwise. Thank you very much!” But this isn’t true. This isn’t right. This isn’t the way things are. This isn’t your world to abuse and morals aren’t your triviality to decide. Atheists refuse to bow the knee to God referring to him as a “celestial North Korea” while eating the emperor’s rice. They say through proverbial clenched teeth that “I don’t believe in God” and it is important that we say “He believes in you or you wouldn’t even exist!” So both the theist and the atheist are wishing. The issue is whose coin is being flipped into the well of reality.

austind90 , Austin's Blog 27 Comments [8/16/2013 3:08:17 AM]
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Quote# 95984

A leaflet showing why objections to evolution should be allowed in science lessons hit the streets last weekend.

The full-colour tract, with pictures of animals which defy evolution, will be distributed at first in the Surrey Heath constituency of Michael Gove MP, Secretary of State for Education, and a supporter of ‘gay marriage’.
Soldiers of Christ will organise the work of distributing the leaflets. Youth Leader Peter Greensmith said: ‘Going out on the streets and standing up for Jesus is a faith-building exercise, and I’m looking forward to what the Lord will do through it.’

NOT BY CHANCE

The debate between creation and evolution and what should be taught in schools…
The Government, through Michael Gove MP, Secretary of State for Education, have said they will introduce the teaching of evolution into primary schools. Mr Gove only recently banned any talk of design or creation from secondary school biology lessons.
Mr Gove’s decision is certain to provoke a crisis of conscience amongst primary school teachers of faith who cannot avoid the subject of biology.

[...]

Cover Picture: The giraffe doesn’t get a headache!

With a long neck and a massive heart generating twice our blood pressure, why does the giraffe not get a brain haemorrhage when it bends down to drink? Because of special valves in its jugular vein and spongy tissue at the base of its brain which limit the pressure and the flow.

Giraffes couldn’t survive without this special ‘plumbing’, so they must always have had it. It couldn’t have evolved gradually and no fossils show intermediate forms with half-as-long a neck. This clever and effective design yet again points to a wise, all-powerful Creator God.

Stephen Green, Soldiers of Christ 49 Comments [8/15/2013 3:55:47 AM]
Fundie Index: 37
Submitted By: Bleep

Quote# 95982

The most annoying argument is that these girls are too "immature." Women pretty much top out intellectually at 15, and only grow more embittered, not intelligent. Even while still in college, 18 year old girls were much more pleasant than 21 year olds.

I have just as much in common with a girl who's a senior in high school as a woman who's a senior marketing analyst. Namely, nothing.

The difference is a younger girl will play to her strengths and be spontaneous and feminine, while an older woman will challenge you so that you "respect her" and see her as an equal. Ironically making me think much less of them.

Wargasm, Return of Kings 54 Comments [8/15/2013 3:55:22 AM]
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Quote# 95981

[On college for women]

Just curious what these dames are supposed to be 'studying'? This is, of course, how feminists recruit in the West. Four lost years doing nothing in a toxic environment ruins most of them for life. The result being STDs, lazy habits and a mountain of debit.

ss_camaro, Reddit 40 Comments [8/15/2013 3:55:01 AM]
Fundie Index: 36

Quote# 95980

Marriage used to be the celebratory act of a woman becoming her husband's legal property.
Now it's the other way around: you're the punka$$ bitch forced to give up half of everything you've got or are going to get for a temporary slice of pu$$y. Feminists and white knights have made hetero the new gay.

SS_Camaro, Reddit 38 Comments [8/15/2013 3:54:46 AM]
Fundie Index: 57

Quote# 95979

I thank my lucky stars every day I do not yet have a daughter.

That being said, I told my boys if they ever have a daughter they should:

Not expect her to be a man; i.e. have a sense of honor, duty, propriety or industry.

Not spoil or support her more than absolutely necessary: no university, no fancy clothes, no horses, inheritance, etc.

Give her to understand that she can do one of two things: find a man you approve of and support him until the end of her days, no matter what, or she can disappear and not bother you with her bullshit.

As with all child-raising, the mother/surrogate is going to be your biggest adversary, having the mind of a teenager and a corrupt-to-the-core media/court apparat that puts her far above you in the cultural marxist hierarchy.

Keep your whiskey stashed.

You're going to need it.

Ss_camaro, Reddit 40 Comments [8/15/2013 3:54:28 AM]
Fundie Index: 57
Submitted By: Emmaline

Quote# 95978

Because, as it stands, most of the evidence of which I am aware is clearly in favor of the new Russian laws. Note that the bans were unanimously adopted and are much more democratically popular than homogamy is in the United States. Regardless, the pendulum is clearly in the process of beginning to swing back, and if Russia's nationalists manage to reverse the nation's demographic decline, it will be a powerful argument against the sexual equalitarians, especially if the West whose corrupting influences it has rejected continues to decline.

The West won the Cold War because its economic values were in line with reality and the Soviet Union's were not. Perhaps having learned from past mistakes, Russia appears to be more likely to win the Cold Peace because its moral values are in line with reality and the West's are not.

Vox Day, Vox Popoli 38 Comments [8/15/2013 3:53:54 AM]
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Quote# 95977

Still, the fact that the average black man poses more than four times the sexual assault risk to a white woman than the average white man is not something that is taught to young American women despite the fact that most women's studies programs spend a great deal of time discussing the sexual dangers posed by men. Then again, math is hard....

I note that vaccines are declared to be safe on statistical grounds that are far less sound than the statistical correlations reliably observed between race and criminal behavior in various societies. As usual, the merciless application of the facts across the board will tend to expose the attempt of the ideological left to conceal the truth through ignorance, deceit, and sophistry.

Science and statistics are gradually destroying the myth of equality, which is why we have now reached the point that many governments, including the US federal government, are being forced to resort to hiding statistics they once deemed necessary in order to continue justifying their false equalitarian dogma. But the truth is what it is, whether we like it or not, and deceit that flies in the face of observable reality is eventually going to be exposed.

Vox Day, Vox Popoli 26 Comments [8/15/2013 3:53:39 AM]
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Quote# 95972

As long as our "advanced" society is able to provide you with the illusion that you are getting a sense of fulfillment out of life, you will be blinded from the truth. There are other beings on this planet who are similarly complacent and unreasoning. I usually eat them. They are called animals. They don't need a sense of fulfillment because they were created with only the desire to survive, unlike us. A wise friend of mine warned me of the futility of debating with people about evolution online. I should have listened to him. Do not bother responding, I am never going on to this talk page again. Sorry for wasting your time, I genuinely wish you well. goodbye.

64.35.203.79 , Wikipedia:Talk 22 Comments [8/15/2013 3:51:34 AM]
Fundie Index: 11

Quote# 95971

You are right, evolutionism does not deny a creator, but evolutionists do. An overwhelming majority of evolutionists are also atheists, and the two beliefs are as inextricably linked as PETA and vegetarianism, (theistic evolution is a pathetic joke from a Christian perspective and is perpetuated by people who don't understand true faith.) Also, my reason for mentioning my opinion of atheism was because a previous poster had already brought up the issue of evolutionism and atheism ("Evolution is one of the biggest lies ever made. It's main goal, is that people stop believing in God...") When you say "unsubstantiated assertions" you assume I must use science to provide proof for my assertion, but I was merely explaining the reasoning behind my opinion (yes, opinion. I don't claim to have ALL the facts.) I generally don't care if anyone is actually swayed by my statements (I was venting.) As for the counter-example, it proposes a process involving the eye actually gaining new abilities and not just adapting (A nearsighted, colorblind, creature with no depth perception will either survive, genes unchanging, or it will die, genes still unchanging. It will never need new abilities.) It is in no way a counter-example to my statements. Biased, pseudo-scientific speculation will always be defeated by cold reasoning and spiritual truth.

"when presented with an apple, one may look at it and conclude that is indeed an apple, or he may spend years trying to come up with a theory that will prove it is actually an expertly crafted fraud. I think it is probably just an apple"

64.35.204.213 , Wikipedia:Talk 18 Comments [8/15/2013 3:51:22 AM]
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Quote# 95970

First of all, I must apologize for not being able to find a more suitable place to write this. Second, I must say I disagree with the theory entirely. BUT, even if I did agree with it, it would still be impossible for there to not exist SOME FORM of an intelligent creator. If these proteins all evolved, then what did they evolve from? And from where came the thing they evolved from? and then, in turn, where did THAT come from? an atom can only be cut in two so many times, likewise, one can only trace evolution back so far until he MUST come to the inevitable conclusion that there is, or at least was, an intelligent designer. To deny this would be illogical not only religiously but scientifically as well. This is the inescapable flaw of atheism. The flaw of evolutionism is that in order for an organism to evolve, it must be in a situation/enviroment where it cannot survive with it's current attributes, in which case it will DIE, not evolve. If it can survive (thus reproduce), then it still will not evolve, because it's genes will be able to be passed on. Even if the organism must struggle significantly to survive (example: an elephant in a new england forest), if it can reproduce it will not evolve, if it can't reproduce (because it died) it will not evolve. This cannot be explained away with the "random mutation" theory because random mutations are NEVER beneficial, EVER. Or at least not commonly enough to account for the staggering variety of surviving species on the earth (or outside of X-Men). Adaptations can occur, but these are distinct from evolution, example: a species' fur can adapt to become longer, shorter, darker, lighter, depending on the threats within it's enviroment, but the fur will NEVER become feathers, for the simple reason that in order to have the feathers, it would have to be in a situation where it could not survive (reproduce) without the feathers. For this to work, both a male and female of said species would have to SIMULTANEOUSLY AND RANDOMLY MUTATE A FULLY FUNCTIONAL PAIR OF WINGS!!! This example can be applied to anything, and disproves any evolution beyond minor adaptations.

64.35.204.200, Wikipedia:Talk 23 Comments [8/15/2013 3:51:14 AM]
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Quote# 95965

[You do not have an objective moral standard.

For instance: baby-killing is OK if god orders it, is it not? William Lane Craig seems to think so.]

Of course. Whatever God commands is absolutely moral because God himself is the absolute standard for good. In fact, if God really did command to do something, such as kill babies, then it would be immoral not to do it. And on what basis do you have to disagree with this outside of mere opinion?

Josef, Jason Lisle's Blog 65 Comments [8/14/2013 3:36:56 AM]
Fundie Index: 66
Submitted By: the_ignored

Quote# 95962

Sandy Rios, a Fox News contributor and American Family Association radio talk show host today on her AFR radio show compared the love two gay men feel for each other to the “love” kidnapper, rapist, and murderer Ariel Castro felt for the women he kept captive as slaves in his home.

Rios was speaking with Chicago pastor Erwin Lutzer, who insisted that pedophiles also “love” the children they rape.

Lutzer also claimed that same-sex marriage leads to the destruction of the family and “confusion” for children.

Sandy Rios, The New Civil Rights Movement 39 Comments [8/14/2013 3:35:58 AM]
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Submitted By: Kevin Klawitter

Quote# 95961

To the Editor,

In the midst of the raving child-molestation epidemic, it is revealing to behold certain financial interests seeking to undermine the security of children within one of America’s bulwark youth institutions, The Boy Scouts. Of course, from a Jewish perspective, the Torah position here is unequivocal: The commission of homosexual acts is a grave sin, prohibited to all Mankind. Moreover, society is obligated to ensure compliance with the Will of our Creator on such fundamental matters.

However, even those who don’t share that worldview must acknowledge some incontrovertible facts pertaining to child-protection – from a perspective of concern for victims of child-molestation. Youth organizations need to shield their children from illicit conduct of both heterosexual and homosexual types. Heterosexual misconduct and abuse is impeded by gender- separation. Homosexual misconduct and abuse is impeded by the current policy of restricting involvement to heterosexual males. Decimating that latter protective barrier will expose children to the most destructive experiences they may ever face.

Even if we are to assume that most homosexuals allowed in to the Scouts will not engage in molestation, SOME clearly WILL (as would be the case with some heterosexuals if gender-separations would be eliminated). Thus, allowing homosexuals into the Boy Scouts WILL expose children to grave danger. Exposing innocent boys to the threat of homosexual misconduct and abuse is not being liberal – it’s being barbaric.

Rabbi Noson Leiter
Founder of Help Rescue Our Children and president of Torah Jews for Decency
Monsey

Rabbi Noson Leiter, Rockland County Times 34 Comments [8/14/2013 3:35:36 AM]
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Quote# 95960

Irishcitizen2013: You are not 'gay'. You have bought the lie which sanitises that which is homosexuality: perversion. You are not 'gay'. In fact I doubt you are happy at all, in your current condition. You are a poof, otherwise known as a "horse's hoof", or poofter; pure and simple (before the sanitisation of your perversion through 'political correctness'). We are loving you by informing you of your error. You are wrong. There is nothing normal about your sexual behaviour (so-called 'orientation') whatsoever. We are loving you by informing you that there is something drastically wrong inside of you. Perhaps a homosexual is called a 'poof' because that is exactly what is going to happen to you if you die in your current condition: God is going to make you go 'poof' into absolute nothingness forever. You have a chance to get it right before you die, before it is too late. We don't want you to perish in that way. Please, heed our loving plea to abandon such reckless rebellion against God Almighty. We we all most assuredly get our just desserts. God bless.

Andy, WND 34 Comments [8/14/2013 3:35:16 AM]
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Submitted By: Hasan Prishtina

Quote# 95958

And no, I don’t believe any female is naturally heterosexual. We are relentlessly pressured to be heterosexual and to believe that that is natural, but it isn’t. We are bombarded with heterosexuality shoved down our throats in patriarchy and its media. The truth is hard to find. How many of us were told the real story about “the birds and the bees?” We’re not told that you never see a heterosexual honeybee because almost all bees are female, and the very few who are het (the “queens”), are het only for a moment in their lives. Children are indoctrinated with animated movies about bees and ants (ants also almost all female and never heterosexual), with the main characters male, including one voiced by a famous child molester). Finding the truth in the maze of lies makes it much harder to internalize the Lesbian-hating they teach us to have about ourselves. Many species of animals live in female communities and they keep the males out because they know that males are rapists and the murderers of their babies.

Bev Jo, Radical Lesbian Feminist Writing 51 Comments [8/14/2013 3:28:36 AM]
Fundie Index: 50

Quote# 95957

"an ideological invention (orientation) of the homosexual movement designed to advance the idea that homosexuality is “immutable,” meaning unchangeable."-Scott Lively

This is an excellent point. And it must always be kept in mind that ideology was the cause of the mass-murders of the 20th century. In the USSR anyone who questioned collectivization (and there were people who questioned it based on natural law) was imprisoned or killed. There are a lot of stupid people (Lenin called them "useful idiots") who will treat their ideology as proven scientific fact.

The homosexual orientation ideology is the kind of belief that can cause the Left-fascist useful twitidiots to kill in the name of "tolerance." They view as "bigots" the many people who see homosexual behavior (especially male homosexuals) as the result of sexual obsessions (similar to food obsessions).

frank, WND 24 Comments [8/14/2013 3:28:21 AM]
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Submitted By: Hasan Prishtina
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