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Quote# 92829

Cancerous Propaganda, is the stuff that causes cancer.

Anyone who has studied 'propaganda' knows it is a way of telling blatant untruth for the purpose of manipulating people to a desirable end without their knowledge or consent.

All goverments use it and all the things that Gonnagle highlighted use it. It is fraud and causes wars and distress.

The cancer cell does something similar. It too grows into a hard cluster of cells which is deceitful to the good order of the body that supports it.

The suggestion being that instead of winding up the population or our living cells we allow them to come to the ideal state of goodwill and contentment and in so doing we can overcome cancerous distress.

Now, this is inferred by Biblical teaching which says that we can overcome many problems if we upbuild our electrical/spiritual nature...but we have to learn to overcome the outpourings of those who don't want to participate first.


NicholasMarks, Religion and Ethics 21 Comments [2/24/2013 6:11:35 AM]
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Submitted By: NearlySane

Quote# 92828

Your naturalism, Mr. Atheist, cannot account for the laws of logic any more than it can account for objective truth, and your empiricism could never know of the laws of logic even if they were real in spite of naturalism's failure to account for them. In effect, your very counter-argument to rebut me assumes the Christian God against whom you so diligently and foolishly fight!

You're too shallow, Mr. Atheist. That's why you can't see the truth of God in what you so hastily, and without basis, assume in your very own argument against the Christian God! You're like the fellow tormented by thirst who sees his reflection in the pool and admires his cosmetic veneer rather than looks beyond the mirror to the life-giving liquid. Jesus is the living water which if who man who thirsts will drink freely as he may, he shall have rivers of living water flow from his own bosom! Be silent, parched mouth, long enough to see the ripples in the water from the pounding of the arguments you breathe forth. Hear what you are saying, then hear what He says, for without Him your argument is impossible. Then drink and never thirst again!

Patrick Johnson, rightremedy 26 Comments [2/24/2013 6:09:50 AM]
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Submitted By: Tony Jiang

Quote# 92826

So...there we have Outriders slant on science. He ignores the mechanics that form people into hard core clusters and groups before inflicting their thinking on all those around them in the form of distress and wars...just like a cancer cell...but is resolved into condemning a simple science, supported by the Son of God, which teaches us how to stand upright outside a cluster and overpower those mechanics that create that cancer.

This...as every thinking person knows...is the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ.

Don't be taken in by cancerous propaganda.


NicholasMarks , Religion and Ethics 17 Comments [2/24/2013 6:08:51 AM]
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Submitted By: NearlySane

Quote# 92824

Savanah, I had chills reading. What an awesome God we serve, even when we ignore the still small voice, He is there protecting us!

This is the tiniest coincidence , was just recently and I still hardly believe it. I live near lots of small backyards and lots of families have dogs. At night, sometimes they will bark. Lately there had been more barking than usual, so it was starting to bug me as I lay down to sleep (it is rare for the dogs to bug me). Since I was saying goodnight to God, I just added a tiny 'oh, and please stop that dog from barking'. Instantly, the barking stopped. And did not start back up. My mouth opened and I praised God, and smiled at the miracle. I was amazed, it was that perfect of an answer.

Of course, I didn't tell anyone, since the story by itself doesn't seem like much. But praise God for this thread, now I can share and we can all praise Him together!

Oh, and I had Romans 8:38-39 brought up by a radio preacher last night, then this morning it was the verse for the morning devotions. God knew I needed that reminder for Valentines day! Same verse within less than 24 hours, I love those coincidences!

Firefly, Rapture Ready 32 Comments [2/24/2013 6:08:04 AM]
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Quote# 92823

Thank God Obama wasn't president during 9/11 you would be wearing a big black burqa by now as he proceeded to tell the country it was our fault for not making sure the terrorists didn't get angry; a typical moonbat stance.

But as for your lack of love, conservatives don't hate democrats who are now communist/socialist/exteme leftist stalin lovers, we tolerate you and look upon you as children with stunted growth who just don't understand the world and think that playing with your easy bake oven and stamping your feet while calling others names will make the fabric of reality change.

The hate, the intolerance, the violence, the extremism is ALL from the left.

Facts, reality, empirical evidence endless historical proof of failure of your views causing depression, death, carnage and suffering supporting none of your views - it's all you have - Hatred and hypocrisy.

But we love ya like the mentally stunted little gnomes you are.

It does get tiring having to make sure all the outlets have covers so you don't stick your tongue in them though. You see conservatives teach their children not to lick electrical wires so they can think. Liberals try and outlaw electricity because they don't have very much faith in you, albeit understandably so.

Anonymous, Field Negro 45 Comments [2/24/2013 5:27:34 AM]
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Quote# 92819

At last check...Women DO make their own reproductive choices...Churches BELIEVE Life to be sacred...you have the right to your view, but churches do not? And same sex couples can do whatever they wish to do...EXCEPT call their intended union "Marriage" as that IS a religious term, and WHY does the LGBT community feel it has some kind of right to infringe upon what is obviously a religious concept and term. Domestic unions can hold all the same benefits as what religious types term "Marriage". Why should the LGBT community look to force their views upon churches? And perhaps you could enlighten me as to what it is about choosing to have deviant sex that classifies the LGBT community as a "Minority"? I have yet to even get a response(much less a good one) to that question which is a serious one.

scott-3860658, Newsvine 18 Comments [2/24/2013 5:27:08 AM]
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Quote# 92818

You are wrong atheists,if I told you I saw a car driving itself,will you believe me? of course no,so the universe can't have create itself,for the big bang,there were 2 atoms of hydrogen and helium at high tempreature and denisty,so they just decided to create themselves?no,someone must have created it and still it is a theory not a fact,someone must have created the universe and he is Allah Almighty,are do you still think atheism is true?
Islam wins.

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I mean a car making itself,it is impossible,plus Allah Almighty has created everything but he isn't a creation,because according to philosophy thinking,the creator can't be a creation,therefore Allah exists all time,plus in the Quran there is a description of formation of the embryo,although at their time there was no scientific discoveries,if you're smart gess why there is a description of it in the Quran.
Islam wins again
and it have won before in the last war between Egypt and Israel,and it will win at the day of judgemen when you see Muslims entering heaven and non-believers entering hell.

5 months ago
We didn't just "make up"Allah Almighty,he told us of his existence.

Omar Husam, Yahoo Answers 53 Comments [2/23/2013 5:10:14 AM]
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Submitted By: zipperback

Quote# 92815

The public schools are better able to foresee the destructive or constructive potential of diverse principles like a gay-straight alliance. Our society as a whole doesn’t accept interacting sexually with the same sex or propagating our offspring through polygamy, adultery or incest. When we elect a leader who cannot control his own conduct and promotes a degenerate standard (as in the last administration), we cannot continue this contradictory principle or incorporate such a diverse behavior into our schools.

It’s imperative that faculty be able to control all curriculum, extracurricular or open forums in our schools to ensure the rights of the majority, not a minority.

Bill Williams, Letters From Bill 26 Comments [2/23/2013 4:59:53 AM]
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Submitted By: Alyssa

Quote# 92814

Then we also must consider Creation a Law. Think about it before you answer because evolution fails on one MAJOR item...WHERE matter/energy came from? Since the LAW of Thermodynamics states emphatically that energy (and therefore matter) can neither be created nor can it be destroyed by NATURAL means, evolution fails.

Take that thought to its logical conclusion.

Timberwolf, Where Liberty Dwells 43 Comments [2/23/2013 4:50:37 AM]
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Submitted By: David

Quote# 92813

the scientific method is effectively a kind of prayer any way

Gottservant, Christianforums 35 Comments [2/23/2013 4:39:12 AM]
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Submitted By: Al (Not Bundy)

Quote# 92808

Was Ayn Rand a Christian? Yes, she was. She smuggled Christian values into her concept of "life," at the ground level. She then chose that life, one suffused with Christian virtue. Objectivist ethics is an edifice built on the sure foundation of Christian ethics.

It's no wonder that good Objectivists and good Christians are both proponents of a broadly libertarian political ideology, such being the only basis of a just system of government.

Richard Goode, SOLO: Sense of Life Objectivists 89 Comments [2/22/2013 4:59:21 AM]
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Quote# 92804

Wow those people should be ashamed of themselves.. saying that the book of Exodus is a lie using "archeological proof" is almost like saying holocaust never happened and using whatever "proof" they can come up with to convince people that it is so (they do it in Palestinian schools)... there are hundreds of archeological proofs of the book of Exodus, it probably has more archeological proof backing it up than any other book of the Bible... only someone with an evil agenda would be saying otherwise

lorenei, rapture ready 40 Comments [2/22/2013 4:55:47 AM]
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Quote# 92799

One of the good pieces of news why we're winning this war is because there are not enough heartless doctors being graduated from medical schools. There's a real shortage of abortionists. Who wants to be at the very bottom of the food chain of the medical profession? And what sort of places do these bottom-of-the-food-chain doctors work in? Places that are really a pit. You find that along with the culture of death go all kinds of other law-breaking: not following good sanitary procedure, giving abortions to women who are not actually pregnant, cheating on taxes, all these kinds of things, misuse of anesthetics so that people die or almost die. All of these things are common practice, and all of that information is available for America. And the day is coming where this public discussion will continue, and America will say, "We're tired of abortion, because it's so fundamentally un-American." And this, like a bad nightmare, will pass away and there will be a day, just as there is today, where people say "Who would ever support slavery?" In the future there will be a day when men will say "Who would ever have supported something so un-American as abortion?"

Todd Akin, Slate.com 55 Comments [2/22/2013 4:29:34 AM]
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Submitted By: Rabbit of Caerbannog

Quote# 92798

There are calls for a judge to be dismissed after he told lawmakers rape victims "may enjoy intercourse" with their attackers.

Muhammad Daming Sanusi is currently a judge at Indonesia's Banjarmasin High Court in South Kalimantan, and made his comments as he applied to become a Supreme Court justice.

According to the Jakarta Post, Sanusi told the country's House of Representatives Commission on Monday: "Both the victims of rape and the rapist might have enjoyed their intercourse together, so we should think twice before handing down the death penalty."

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Sanusi, who has been a judge for 24 years, later apologised for his comments during a press conference in which he claimed he had been nervous and had been making a joke.

News agency Antara quoted him as saying: "I made the remark without realising it can harm peoples' feelings."

Muhammad Daming Sanusi, Huffington Post 33 Comments [2/22/2013 4:29:16 AM]
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Submitted By: Rabbit of Caerbannog

Quote# 92797

Eviloution !
It is nothing more than tired scientist who have grown tired of looking for the elusive missing link they will never find because it does not exist. So they all got together in there rocking chairs and decided together to simply state evilution as fact with out the facts. So they pesent what they claim are facts which in reality is nothing more than old dead bones they can't extract DNA from and claimed the missing link has been found. They simply have done this to save face instead of admitting they are defeated by there own lies. Not to mention simple math proves the world isn't old enough for evolution to exist. For instance if the world was 150,000,000 years old the world would be so populated there would not be enough room on the planet to be stood on.



MB, BaptistBoard 30 Comments [2/22/2013 4:28:52 AM]
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Submitted By: PT

Quote# 92796

The thing that strikes me today is that it is more apparent than ever macro-evolution is a religion requiring blind faith in opposition to all the science that proved macro-evolution wrong / invalid / impossible.

In short, they are guilty of what they accused Christians of blind faith in a religion. Only their is disproved. Christianity (creationism) was only disagreed with.

And if evolutionists and anti-God proponents were not so deeply entrenched in the media and the education system they would have been laughed right out of the public square.

I.C.R. was right!

Institute for Creation Research.

JohnDBaptiste, BaptistBoard 25 Comments [2/21/2013 7:25:09 PM]
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Quote# 92794

In defending her bill to crack down on abortion clinics, Alabama state Rep. Mary Sue McClurkin argued that abortions should be more strictly regulated because “When a physician removes a child from a woman, that is the largest organ in a body.”

McClurkin, a Republican, added: “That’s a big thing. That’s a big surgery. You don’t have any other organs in your body that are bigger than that.”

State Rep. Mary Sue McClurkin, R-Ala., Salon.com 58 Comments [2/21/2013 6:32:58 PM]
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Submitted By: Amaryllis

Quote# 92793

Clarence-
That is fine, because I know you are an agnostic/atheist. Christians must defend truth though, so Christian men must treat women like they are inferiors. That means chauvnism..either the polite kind or the no-so-polite kind.. But egalitarianism is not an option.

She may have many lofty qualities that are on par with some men in the same area, but she must be thought of as talented “for a woman”.

Status is not based on merit but on the ontological reality.

Morticia, Dalrock 59 Comments [2/21/2013 4:39:44 AM]
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Submitted By: Balthazar The Wise

Quote# 92791

Finally, it is a commonly held fallacy that people just go to hell for not believing in the Gospel. No one can go to heaven without accepting the Gospel, but this is different from saying the sole reason people go to hell is that they do not believe the Gospel. The reason anyone goes to hell is because of their sins. One of those sins may be that you have rejected and thus do not believe the Gospel that Jesus died for your sins and rose from the dead, however it is not the only sin for which one is sentenced to hell. The man who has genuinely never heard the Gospel, he will not be held guilty for rejecting the Gospel, but will nonetheless be guilty for the other sins he has committed.

John Park, the Predestined Blog 38 Comments [2/21/2013 4:38:36 AM]
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Submitted By: Tony

Quote# 92789

I have said, and many men agree with me, that Adam’s rib was the greatest investment in human history. Why? Because God then gave man woman, a different creature, who complemented him. God did it on purpose, and we are privileged to live with the differences. Feminists et al., get over it. It is not discrimination to accommodate God’s design; it is acknowledging His will – it is wisdom.

Despite “Kill Bill” and other Hollywood visuals of females pummeling men, women for the most part are not designed to kill. And they will not be good at it. God designed them to produce life and nurture it, not destroy it. They don’t belong in the trenches of the NFL or in the octagon in Ultimate Fighting; combat is the ultimate Ultimate Fighting – and they don’t belong there, either.

It is difficult to teach some men to kill, but they have no choice. Imagine a draft and a nation forcing our women into killing units. Visualize what will happen to women POWs, not to mention homosexuals, captured by our most likely enemies. We have heard of the man who sent his wife downstairs to check on a possible burglar (I actually knew such a man). We are becoming a nation like that man, a girlie nation. There will always be burglars, (international thugs), most of whom are male, and they should be confronted by males.

Why these ridiculous changes? No serous person could believe that women in foxholes will do anything but reduce readiness. Just as devastating is the formation of a quad-sexual military, which introduces sodomy not only to foxholes but military communities – and with it serious health and deployment issues. Pregnant females cannot deploy, and some will get pregnant to avoid it. Homosexuals cannot give blood and may not be deployable. Every warrior is a walking blood bank – who would want his son or daughter to receive a blood transfusion from a homosexual? The NBA stops a basketball game for a drop of blood because of the threat of infection, the Magic Johnson rule; Johnson had AIDS. The battlefield is full of blood. Do we think less of our soldiers than the NBA does of its players? What will be the reaction when a warrior sees his commanding officer dancing and romancing another man – or if he is hit on by a homosexual? Yet we are told these changes will improve readiness.

Maj. Gen. Patrick Brady, WND 57 Comments [2/21/2013 4:38:08 AM]
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Submitted By: Zagen30

Quote# 92788

Gilgamesh if I recall is Islamic folklore. Mohamed didn't exist until 600 years after Jesus and so was born Islam?

Nothing can pre-date the Hebrews they start their history from the Creation of the Earth and with Adam and Eve. Of course if you do not recognise God Created the Universe and the Earth and the animals and then Adam and Eve I can understand why you have difficulty with understanding the Bible.

MelodyCat, Fresh Hope 51 Comments [2/21/2013 4:37:45 AM]
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Submitted By: physalis17

Quote# 92787

So we are all here (In theory) by accident?
Is the earth an accident?
Is the internet an accident?
Is this Blog an accident?

So if there is not a creator would not everything have to be an accident? How to calculate the odds that the words on this blog were an accident of the big bang.

Vann R. Duggins, Amazon Atheist Forum 37 Comments [2/21/2013 4:34:01 AM]
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Submitted By: Rachel

Quote# 92785

The state prosecution ordered an investigation into prominent kabbalist Rabbi David Batzri and his son, Rabbi Yitzhak Batzri, for suspected incitement to racism.

According to prosecution lawyer Shai Nitzan, the two used unacceptable means in attempt to convince residents of Jerusalem's Pat neighborhood to protest a local bi-lingual school where Arab and Jewish children study together.

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However, not everyone is thrilled about the program. Leading an initiative against the school, Rabbi Batzri and his son held a conference two-and-a-half months ago where they made racist slurs against Arabs: "Arabs are a misfortune, a problem, Satan," the two said, according to the prosecution.

[…]

At the conference, the elder Batzri told Pat residents: "The establishment of a school like this one is a despicable and impure act. Stand in the way and prevent this. Darkness and light cannot be mixed. The people of Israel are pure and Arabs are a nation of asses. The question must be asked, why didn't God give them four legs, because they are asses."

The son, Yitzhak Batzri, also made objectionable comments. "The Arabs are beasts and asses," he said. "They are inferior, they want to take our daughters. People say we are racist but - they are the evil ones, the cruel ones, the scum of snakes. This is war."

Rabbi David Batzri, a leading kabbalist, has been known to spout his racist ideologies whenever the occasion arises. On Rosh Hashana he spoke to Ynet and said that a light earthquake which shook Israel portends a good year for Jews and a bad year for non-Jews, while the hot weather foretold that "The king of Egypt will die this year, and there will be hunger and sadness in all eastern nations where they worship false gods."

Earlier this year, Batzri noted that the floods that killed thousands in the United States and left many more homeless were God's punishment for the Americans' support of the disengagement from the Gaza Strip.

Rabbi David and Rabbi Yitzhak Batzri, Ynet 46 Comments [2/21/2013 4:33:43 AM]
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Quote# 92781

[Parental notification of abortion is being debated in Washington state]

Speaking with the Seattle Weekly, Keiser claims it is “not a gender issue.” Keiser is lying. Feminists operate under the assumption that the mother will know. In accordance with anti-patriarchy ideology, it’s the father who must be kept in the dark. Because, as we all know, fathers kill their daughters all the time for having sex before the age of 18. This is why thousands of girls are slaughtered at the hands of their fathers every day in the US…

It is indeed odd that fathers are legally held responsible for their children’s upkeep, yet they are consistently stripped of any authority and deliberately handicapped in regards to making choices about their children’s upbringing. It is almost as though a feminist social worker at Planned Parenthood is deemed better qualified to make informed parenting decisions than a girl’s own father.

If that is the case, I wonder, then why isn’t the feminist social worker subject to a child support order?

W. F. Price, The Spearhead 22 Comments [2/21/2013 4:33:04 AM]
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Quote# 92780

The reason "gender equality" stalled is because it is an economic impossibility. The reason the average hours worked is so much higher than in the more "sexist" 1960s is because primarily there are more women in the workforce. While immigration too plays a role here, the only significant effect native women have when they enter the labor force in greater numbers is to depress the price of labor. Unlike immigrants, they don't bring in new consumption to help mitigate their wage-depressing effects; the reason real hourly wages peaked in 1973 and have been falling ever since is because that was the year that the number of men younger than 20 and older than 65 leaving the labor force was surpassed by educated, middle-class women entering it.

One-third of working class women have always worked. The change brought by feminism is that now middle class and upper middle class married women work as well. And the more women that work, the more women have to work and the less time women who don't work will have with their husbands who support them, because an INCREASE in the SUPPLY of labor necessitates a DECREASE in the PRICE of labor, demand remaining constant.

And to make matters worse, demand does not remain constant, but actually declines, because a woman who works is statistically much less likely to eventually become a wife and mother, and even when she does, she becomes one several years later and has fewer children. This means that feminism is a structural economic failure as it creates a downward-spiraling vicious circle of three easily identifiable revolutions:

1. The increase in the supply of labor causes wages to go down. This is indisputable in either logical or empirical terms.
2. Female hypergamy, female independence, and opportunity cost reduces the marriage rate and the average birth rate, while increased male work hours and work-related romantic opportunities increases the divorce rate. These connections are all logically sound and readily observable.
3. The reduced birth rate has a negative effect on consumption, and therefore the demand for labor, 20 years before the consequent negative effects on the supply of labor can help balance it out, putting further negative pressure on wage rates. This is also indisputable, both logically and empirically.

The economic flaws of feminism are no less obvious, no less fundamental and no more avoidable than the economic flaws of socialism. Feminism's structural inability to sustain wage rates and birth rates spells the inevitable doom of every feminist society, as surely as the inability to calculate prices spells the doom of every socialist society. "Gender equality" hasn't stalled because it isn't being sufficiently enforced by the government, it has stalled because it is in the process of collapsing along with the society it has infested.

The impossibility of sexual equalitarian societies has nothing to do with fairness, traditional religious beliefs, human rights, or how intensely one feels that women are equal to men in every way. It is a straightforward and unavoidable consequence of the law of supply and demand, and as such, is far more reliable than the Malthusian equation of the geometric increase of population outstripping the arithmetic increase of the food supply.

Vox Day, Vox Populi 32 Comments [2/21/2013 4:26:37 AM]
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