Quote# 87457

Why would I want to make up things that are supported by simple, visible evidence? The light from billions of galaxies shows that atoms are always changing themselves relationally. Not a single ancient galaxies shines with the light frequencies of modern atoms and the differences are often associated with distance (the past).

Lets be brutally frank about Einstein's theory. He imagined that the vacuum of space time is bent by the Sun and the earth follows the local bent rails in the vacuum. No one has ever detected a shred of visible evidence for space time nor has anyone isolated or directly detected any gravity. Both Einstein and Newton believed that static matter does enormous amounts of work bending the path of the Earth without changing anything about itself. This is nothing but a mathematical version of perpetual motion.

It is much simpler to observe that atoms are always changing their light frequencies and the orbits in countless galaxies continue to accelerate out, billions of galaxies intrinsically growing into huge growth spirals, as the properties of all matter visibly change. What causes gravity has never been isolated but the fact that atoms keep on accelerating their light clocks as orbits also accelerate in defiance of every law of physics should tell us at least that gravity is not a perpetual motion effect.

The scientific emperor is naked.

godsriddle, EvC Forum 52 Comments [5/21/2012 7:51:29 AM]
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Quote# 87455

Succinctly, hypergamy is amoral, and impervious to reason.

A man has caviar once, but his experience doesn't lead him to assume that he deserves caviar every day. Meat and potatoes will do just fine.

A woman, on the other hand, gets her world rocked by a guy with nine inches, and from then on, in her mind, every other man falls short.

Men must run civilization because the hypergamous instinct that drives woman, if left unchecked, cannot help but run civilization into the ground. This is what we are witnessing all about us. The advanced technology we enjoy will cushion the fall, at least for a while, but fall this civilization must.

bem, Men Going Their Own Way 77 Comments [5/21/2012 7:47:20 AM]
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Submitted By: Balthazar The Wise

Quote# 87454

On a Russian website I remember reading that priests did an experiement. Placebo. They gave a homosexual some type of fake pill. The homosexual thought it was SO REAL and the cure ACTUALLY EXISTED that they healed themselves. Therefore, they became heterosexual. However, the person was later arrested.

IceLight, Yahoo Answers 46 Comments [5/21/2012 7:39:58 AM]
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Quote# 87452

A Zimbabwean Senator, Morgan Femai, has suggested that women shave their heads, stop taking baths and dress badly to stop the spread of HIV.

According to the Zimbabwe’s Herald, Femai believes that HIV is spreading at an alarming rate because men find it difficult to resist women.

"What I propose it that the government should come up with a law that compels women to have their heads clean-shaven like what the Apostolic sects do," said Mr Femai, when speaking to a parliamentary HIV awareness workshop.

The senator also stated that female circumcision would also help in the fight against the disease.

“Women have got more moisture in their organs as compared to men so there is need to research on how to deal with that moisture because it is conducive for bacteria breeding. There should be a way to suck out that moisture,” the senator is quoted saying.

The HIV workshop was set up by Zimbabwean Parliamentarians in conjunction with the National Aids Council and some UN agencies promote Aids awareness.

Morgan Femai, The New Age 49 Comments [5/21/2012 7:38:20 AM]
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Quote# 87449

Actually, while I’m not sure about the claims by the various people who have reported that Obama has at least participated at times with them in homosexual acts, this certainly lends some credence
...
The long term goal of the homosexual movement is to get every little boy to grab his ankles and every little girl to give it a try. They will not rest until every one of our children at least gets to try, has the opportunity and maybe is forced to at least once experience homosexual acts.

Paul Cameron, Huffington Post 34 Comments [5/21/2012 7:37:28 AM]
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Quote# 87439

[The quoted part is claimed to be from an anonymous Marine and is used in this article by Judith Reisman.]

PORNOGRAPHY IS HOMOEROTICISM IN PRACTICE

"I reported what Dr. Reisman showed me to my buddies. Pornography is "homo" sex - that is it's sex made by men to arouse men and boys. Pornography causes boys to have sex with themselves, psychopharmacologically conditioning them early to male sexual touch. Pornography claims our sisters, daughters, even our moms are non-human animals. Although human women, unlike dogs or monkeys, never go into "heat" ("estrus"), women and girls are posed by pornographers soliciting sex from everyone, everywhere, eye pupils dilated, intimate body parts and lips reddened, often bent over, rump up, to imitate primate females in "heat." Normal boys are unconsciously made anxious, angry, ashamed, fearful of these airbrushed, naked women "in rut/heat." Everywhere they wink, open their mouths, sigh, moan for penetration. Smiling paper and celluloid dolls promise everything and deliver nothing more than a man or a boy can do for himself - thanks to the men who provide the sex images."

[...]

In sum, empirical measurement finds a Pornographic/Homoerotic constituency training of a fit with a "mechanistic" worldview of fornication, abortion, anal/oral sodomy, bestiality, adult sexual abuse of children, etc. Judeo-Christianity condemns all such conduct as inhumane and infirm. Instead, the Judeo-Christian "life" oriented worldview trains its constituency to pre- marital chastity, monogamy, fidelity.

Those bachelors who do not adhere to a higher power of God or military devotion and service, are historically viewed as out of balance and potentially dangerous to the civil order. While Pornography/Homoeroticism differ in the single variable of a shape for penetration, both require a transient supply of fresh penetration objects. Both equate sodomy-based orgasms, masturbation, fantasy, etc., with "the marital act" of "eye-to-eye, lip-to-lip, body-to-body coitus." This intimacy, denied to same-sex coitus, yields conscious or unconscious envy and loss.

[...]

Pornography is a pedagogical tool, teaching boys and men as well as girls and women to view the female sex as sinister, unfaithful, and animalized. In doing so, the learner is unconsciously, neurologically reshaped by homoerotic values and practices.

Judith Reisman, Dr. Judith Reisman 48 Comments [5/21/2012 7:26:23 AM]
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Submitted By: Wykked Wytch

Quote# 87436

friends:

this is what i advocate, stated in a straightforward manner.--

i advocate armed insurrection to excise radical leftist politicians and marxism from our body politic, if necessary. i see very little to cause me to suppose that it is not necessary, nor to convince me that sooner is not better.

it is also clear that the present united states administration and democratic congress of the united states are hell bent for election to usurp, restrain and infringe our ancient liberties and rights, and that they fully intend to impose a european socialist state upon our politics. they are well on their way to achieving precisely that, and they work continuously and insidiously towards that end, against the direct wishes of the electorate.

they need removed from office, immediately, by any means necessary, including armed insurrection if they will not obey the electoral process, and if they continue to scheme and carry out plans to forcibly subvert it.

the time has come to act overtly. and, to openly organize to carry out the goal of taking our country back. the first step? do not pay your taxes. the next step? acquire suitable arms and necessary ammunition. then? organize into militia and action teams. the final step? lethal violence directed towards our oppressors, ... , they are easy enough to identify.

it also seems quite imperative to me that islam be expelled from our body politics, by any means necessary, including force. muslims should be fairly compensated for their property which they have acquired, they should be allowed to take their monies accumulated with them, but they should be made to leave, ... , at gunpoint, if necessary.

have i stated my views in a sufficiently clear manner?

John Joseph Jay, summer patriot, winter soldier 78 Comments [5/20/2012 4:03:17 AM]
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Submitted By: Rabbit of Caerbannog

Quote# 87433

In 2001, Barack Hussein Obama’s mentor Bill Ayers wrote a book recounting his experiences with the Weather Underground.

Among the details covered in the 9-11-2001 NY Times article was a quote from William Ayers that he engaged in partner swapping and even homosexual encounters with the Weather Underground to “smash monogamy”.

When a Marxist terrorist radical admits that the goal of such actions are to subvert traditional marriage, I don’t need some homosexual with a newspaper column to ask “how does same sex marriage threaten heterosexuals marriages?”.

The goal is to undermine the institution of marriage. Feminazis and Hugh Hefner tried to do the same.

a fool in paradise, Free Republic 48 Comments [5/20/2012 3:58:38 AM]
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Submitted By: Rabbit of Caerbannog

Quote# 87423

WWJD

ATHEISTS UNWITTINGLY OBEY SATAN

Few 100% true Reasons why Atheism is TERRIBLE and unhealthy for our children and living things:

† Atheism is a religion that makes you stupid, ignorant & blind.
† Atheism is a disease that needs to be treated.
† Atheism makes you post stupid things (90% of silly comments here on CNN blogs are posted by closet Atheists)
† Atheist are satanic and have gothic lifestyle.
† Atheists causes problem in our religious society.
† Atheists are mentally ill, that's why they have no faith.
† Atheism won't take you to kingdom of heaven and paradise.
† Atheism making you agree with Stalin, Hitler (Denied his faith later), Mao, Pol Pot & other terrible mass murder leaders.
† No traditional family lifestyle, no holidays, no culture, boring and feeling 'outsider'
† Atheists are angry, drug additcted and committ the most crime.
† Atheist try to convert people over internet because they feel "safer" behind closet.
† Atheists do not really exist, they just pretend that they don't believe in God and argue with religious people.
† Atheists have had terrible life experience, bad childhood and not being loved.
† Most Atheists are uneducated... No Atheists could run for presidency.
† Atheism brought upon the French Revolution, one of the most evil events of all of history.
† Atheism cannot explain the origins of the universe, therefore God exists.
† All atheists believe in evolution, which means they don't believe in morality and think we should all act like animals.
† The Bible says atheism is wrong, and the Bible is always right (see: Genesis 1:1, Psalms 14:1, Psalms 19:1, Romans 1:19-20)
† Countries where Atheism is prevalent has the highest Suicide rate & Communist countries = Atheism!
**Only 2-3% of the U.S. are Atheists/Agnostics VS. over 90% who believe in God (80% Christians) in the U.S.**

† † Our Prayers goes to Atheists to be mentally healthy and seek their creator † †

ATHEISTS WILL BURN IN HELLFIRE AND BRIMSTONE WHERE THEY BELONG AND THEY ALL DESERVE IT AND I CAN'T WAIT TO WATCH FROM ABOVE IN HEAVEN WITH A SMILE WHILE I DANCE ON STREETS OF GOLD WHILE ATHEISTS SKIN BOILS OFF AND THEY CRY LIKE BABIES AND THEIR CHILDREN WILL JOIN THEM

WWJD, CNN Belif BLog 90 Comments [5/20/2012 3:56:40 AM]
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Submitted By: Godlesspanther

Quote# 87418

[On Newsweek's cover of Obama as "The First Gay President" showing a "gay" halo on top of his head]

Notice that not only does the libtard media shove the nigger down our throats with the gay issue, but then has to drag race and species into it?

That queer halo is absolutely repulsive. As a Christian, it is clearly stated in the bible, the faith's stance on gays. A gay halo is absolutely WRONG!

Oh, yeah, that's right: obongo claims he IS a christian of some kind. So it must somehow be OK now to be gay, and by the halo, he assumes he will enter Heaven.

Wrong on so very many levels!

nigfreeillinois, Chimpmania 47 Comments [5/19/2012 7:32:24 AM]
Fundie Index: 98
Submitted By: Robert

Quote# 87417

I [heart] Genocide

Some people have criticized the Torah for being cruel because the Torah commands the extermination of certain ancient peoples, specificially the Canaanites, the Amalekites and the Midianites, including the killing of women and children.

I think that a few things must however be borne in mind.

These commandments were given by God who knows all of people's thoughts and all their future actions and the actions of their potential descendents. God knew that these people were evil, they were "bad to the bone", and the kindest solution was to kill them, for their sakes and the sakes of everyone else. Killing a baby is normally a heinous crime. However if someone would be truly psychic and would have truly been able to see the future, surely he would have done everyone a big favor if he would have strangled Adolf Hitler in his crib.

Additionally, we must bear in mind that these commandments were specifically regarding those nationalities. Orthodox Jews today are basically pacsifists who are almost never kill anyone.

jewish philosopher, Torah Philosophy 53 Comments [5/19/2012 5:58:33 AM]
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Quote# 87403

Is it wrong that I can't find it in my heart to not hate atheists?
I am a humble person, but not through religion! Atheists are poison!

They speak of religion with such unholy contempt, it feels almost impossible to forgive them for it. Nothing compels them... therefore there is no reason to mingle with them.

I propose--for all Christians--to initiate a divide between themselves and these Satanic people for the sake of their own well-being.

Honestly, at this point, I myself have made it a priority in my life to avoid them as much as possible, lest I become corrupted by that which they do best: poison others.

As will be the case for my [future] children & spouse, I will never associate with them.

Additional Details
NO I don't hate homosexuals!
For they legitimately know not what they do... they've been brainwashed into thinking that it's natural... by whom?

Atheists!

Attack the cause not the symptoms!T
Therefore... I love gay people... for the sake of my religion

[...]

I apologise if I didn't make it clear... the cause in this context... is the atheist influence over innocent Christians... and effectively rendering them homosexual.

Girl with the Red Nose, Yahoo Answers 69 Comments [5/18/2012 3:42:34 AM]
Fundie Index: 79

Quote# 87402

The serious problem of bullying in junior high and high school has received some overdue attention lately. Lee Hirsch’s documentary Bully is in theaters and highly recommended.

But don’t think that bullying in academic settings is exclusively a phenomenon of adolescence. Adults also bully adults. That’s what is happening now at Emory University in Atlanta.

You can be a brilliant, innovative pediatric neurosurgeon at a sky-scraping top medical school, in addition to being a generous philanthropist with an inspirational up-from-dire-poverty personal story, plus a Presidential Medal of Freedom winner, and a best-selling writer whose memoir was turned into a TV movie starring Cuba Gooding Jr.

But in the hands of academic bullies, if you once shared your critical thoughts on evolutionary science and its moral implications — well, everything else about you suddenly dwindles to very little.

Dr. Ben Carson of Johns Hopkins University is today’s target[...]

Dr. Carson’s unwelcoming welcome sends a message to less renowned and therefore less bullet-proof scholars. If they open their mouth to question Darwin, fellow academics will not only disagree but will hurt them by misrepresenting their opinions.

Imagine the results if he were someone else: a young scientist seeking a strong start to his career, a not so young but still untenured scientist with his livelihood to protect, even a tenured academic worried about his reputation and the future careers of his own grad students.

This is how Darwinists maintain the fiction that the scientific community has reached a freely determined “consensus” in favor of Darwinian evolution and against intelligent design. The consensus is maintained by intimidation, by bullying.

It’s a farce, but for vulnerable people in academic life, a scary farce.

David Klinghoffer, Red State 37 Comments [5/18/2012 3:12:12 AM]
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Quote# 87400

'another god' is referring to Satan and the demons. That is why God forbids idolatry. They are the 'other gods' of
the decalogue.

Theo, Amazon Religion Forum 31 Comments [5/18/2012 3:01:03 AM]
Fundie Index: 19

Quote# 87397

Ok...this is symptomatic of retardation now...Our planet is hyper-unique due to some outside force. We did not start from "Two Ti-i-i-i-i-i-iny amoeba in a warm pond" but let's say we did...for that is moot in relation to my point which is:

No matter how many times you roll the dice, you will never come close to replicating life. On the spiritual side, God has not made any others, on the scientific side, it was a chance in a googleplex to the googleplex power that it worked. Even if chance decided to travel sequentially, and not repeat itself many times over, time does not permit this miracle to occur again. write a comic book or make a movie, let your alternate planet exist there, because it absolutely will not exist in this cosmos or a parallel cosmos. If you are not spiritual, you are a mighty lonely meatpuppet...adrift in a sea of black, saddled upon a spinning sphere that hangs on nothing. Life is short...live it long!

whiterabbit, Fark 41 Comments [5/18/2012 3:00:31 AM]
Fundie Index: 44

Quote# 87391

It is interesting to note some statistics that have come to light in recent years. First, we must remember that 1963 was when evolution received federal funding as it applies to education. Before 1963 the average grade school textbook had somewhere between one thousand and fifteen hundred words on the subject of evolution. After 1963 that number took a dramatic jump to right around 34,000 words on the subject of evolution. In nature, such jumps usually take on catastrophic tolls. Just take for example the El Nino floods out here in California back in 1996. In Sacramento we usually get anywhere from 17 to 20 inches of rain a year and it mostly comes in the rainy season which lasts from the end of November till right around the middle of April. But, in the winter of 1995/1996 we received around 42 inches of rain. The result was flooding like I have never seen before. Now, that was only a 100 percent difference over normal; not the mega increases that we'll see below. Let's look at what evolution has gotten us:

Sexually transmitted diseases - Gonorrhea: ages 15-16 - Up 226%


Scholastic Aptitude Test Scores - Decline in Student - From 980 in 1963 to 900 in 1990


Divorce Rates - Up 111% since 1963


Unmarried Couples - Up 536% since the mid 1960's


Unwed Birth Rates - Up 325% since 1963


Pregnancies To Girls Ages 10 thru 14 - Up 553% since 1963. The difference between the two figures is being aborted.


Violent Crime Offenses - Up 995% since 1963.

The statistics don't lie and it isn't just a coincidence that these statistics have escalated. When you start teaching people that they are only animals they start acting like animals.

David Ben Yakov, Delusion Resistance 49 Comments [5/18/2012 2:59:33 AM]
Fundie Index: 68
Submitted By: Smurfette Principle

Quote# 87383

[This was a letter to the editor regarding Chaim Levin (no relation), an Orthodox Jewish LGBT advocate.]

Evidence Of An Agenda

Chaim Levin’s recent article and appearances on video and Jewish radio provide ample evidence of an agenda far more wide-ranging than merely opposing bullying and reparative therapy.

It’s an exact duplication of the militant homosexual activist playbook: Desensitize society through constant discussion of homosexuality, urges, etc. Create feelings of guilt in others by exaggerated, unsubstantiated claims of Jewish homosexual suicides due to “bullying,” discrimination, etc. Gain public sympathy by using the media, and then solidify gains by forming organizations like Jewish Queer Youth.

Rashi (Devarim 25:18) describes Hashem’s eternal enemy, Amalek, as practitioners of homosexuality. Rambam rules that one who is tempted to sin disguise himself, sin secretly and act the hypocrite in public so as not to desensitize society to sin. Urging youth to join in a group that identifies itself with Amalek-type behavior reinforces negative self-identification and more often than not results in sinful misbehavior.

Imagine a Jewish adulterers’ Shabbaton, an “intimacy for the under-aged” shul or an adult incest organization forming a minyan. How about articles by and organizations of mamzeirim who demand sympathy and change because Jews are halachically forbidden to marry them? These are all spiritual oxymorons and would constitute a fifth column in the Torah community.

I have tremendous sympathy for those challenged by temptations and unkosher desires. As you do with cancer, you never stop trying to find a better treatment to cure yourself. If all therapies fail, as a last resort you use chemicals to stop the urge to act in a forbidden manner. (This resolution is ordered by European courts for offenders and it works.) Unpleasant, surely; but better than committing adultery, homosexuality or incest.

Rabbi Yehuda Levin, The Jewish Press 36 Comments [5/17/2012 3:48:56 AM]
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Submitted By: Wykked Wytch

Quote# 87382

[The White House asks all visitors to register in advance. Unborn children must be registered if they will be born before the visit.]

What in the world does an unborn child have to do with security? Headcount , that is about the stupidest thing I have heard. How does an unborn child pose a security threat to the White House when that child isn't born, and then once it is born it is still on the registered list if this what this list is about. How is the mother suppose to preregister her child when it is unknown what sex gender it is? Although they can see it on the ultra sound of which gender the baby is, some mothers wants to know before the baby is born, but there are some who don't want to know until the baby arrived. This is what he is paying our tax money for security by registering the unborn baby. Do you know how ridiculous and down right immature that is? My stars is this government afraid that this unborn child is carrying a concealed weapon inside the mother's womb, and once the unborn child is arriving going to come out shooting everyone it sees! Then will go and hunt down and shoot up the White House. By doing such a thing is just unconstitutional, and disrespectful for the unborn and its mother. How typical of such money being wasted on such stupidity.

Coleen Bsm, OneNewsNow 26 Comments [5/17/2012 3:07:22 AM]
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Quote# 87378

Oh, it’s very simple. It’s absolutely very simple. I have a doctorate in sociology from NYU, and I know what the literature says. The literature is definitive. There is one gold standard, one gold standard for children. That is: there is no substitute for a marriage between a man and a woman. I want the law to discriminate against straight people who live together — I used to call it “shacking up,” but now it’s called cohabitation. I want the law to discriminate against all alternative lifestyles, against gays and unions. I want to promote and to put in a privileged position that institution of marriage between a man and a woman, which has been shown over and over to be the gold standard.

Bill Donohue, Think Progress 59 Comments [5/17/2012 2:55:30 AM]
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Submitted By: Zagen30

Quote# 87377

[Thread about there being too many Muslims in Britain]

In 1933 the Jewish population of Poland was an estimated 3 million, in 1950 that figure was put at 45,000. There are almost 3 million muslims in the UK today. Just a thought...

Thjodolfr, Anglo-Saxon Foundation 54 Comments [5/17/2012 2:40:20 AM]
Fundie Index: 86

Quote# 87358

Same-sex marriage seemed to be detrimental to Massachusetts; as I recall, real estate prices subsequently declined. In contrast, the short-term and long-term economic benefits of the traditional family are difficult to deny.

["Could I ask what evidence you rely on to draw that connection between same-sex marriage and a decline in real estate prices in Massachusetts?"]

I looked at the real estate market. The data is surely available for anyone else to review.
Real estate values depend on strong families and a growing economic base. That's not same-sex marriage.

["That is ridiculous. Canada, which has accepted same sex marriage for the past 2 decades, has enjoyed a significantly stronger economy than the US."]

In Canada there is no choice given to citizens about the issue: same-sex marriage is imposed throughout the nation. In the United States, there is high mobility away from states that impose same-sex marriage toward states that recognize how important traditional marriage is to long-term prosperity.

Andy Schlafly, Conservapedia 49 Comments [5/17/2012 2:36:29 AM]
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Submitted By: Night Jaguar

Quote# 87354

Dear Penn Jillette the so-called atheist (who is afraid to debate Bible believers):

I was looking at the April 17, 2012 article entitled The Penn & Teller Election and it appears that you are still width challenged. What happened? I thought you possessed the "super atheist intellect".

Do not the scientific disciplines of exercise science, nutritional science and medical science have an abundance of solutions to being overweight? Doesn't medical science declare there are significant health risks with being overweight?

Is the problem sin? The sins of sloth and gluttony? Are you sure God does not exist? The reason I ask is that there sure is a lot of evidence that God exist as can be seen by the resources offered here: Evidence for Christianity. By the way, do you have any proof and evidence that atheism is true?

See also: Atheism and obesity

Conservative, Conservapedia 78 Comments [5/16/2012 3:15:30 AM]
Fundie Index: 62

Quote# 87352

[Extracts from the WBC Atlas "God Hates the World" explaining in detail why they hate every living person on Earth. This is not parody.]
....

God Hates Bhutan. Bhutan, which is officially called the Kingdom of Bhutan, is one of the most isolated nations in the world, and because of this, homosexuality is not really known in this nation. They claim ignorance of homosexuality, but their dark, evil hearts know what they're doing. Bhutan is sometimes referred to as an openly bisexual society. Whatever name you try to put on it, if it walks like a duck (fag) and quacks like a duck (fag), it is a duck (fag).

....
Botswana's False Religious Systems

Christians - My eye! 60% of these populous claim to be Christian, but the crimes still continue unabated in that land. They are the very picture of this: Mark 7:6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.
....
Greece's False Religious Systems

The whores of the Greek Orthodox whore house have such a chokehold on Greece that their flag depicts the white cross symbol of that monster. The government of Greece financially supports this whore, paying the salaries and training of the “clergy,” and financing the maintenance of their buildings. But don’t worry, they have a Ministry of Education and Religion that makes sure everyone gets religious freedom in Greece. Though they did have a little hiccup when they denied the application for recognition and a house of prayer permit to the Church of Scientology. These whores fight amongst themselves all the time, and if they can get the corrupt government of a doomed nation to give them the charge of things, their tyrant fangs come all the way out.
.......
Solomon Islands's Filthy Manner of Life
Solomon Island has a history of abortion and infanticide. Claiming a need to control the population, only the oldest son is allowed to marry, while all others are allowed to have sexual affairs but not allowed to produce children from them. The preferred form of population control is killing babies before or just after birth.
.....

Westboro Baptist Church, God Hates The World 75 Comments [5/16/2012 3:04:46 AM]
Fundie Index: 54

Quote# 87349

When you can't believe that China did not exist before the Flood, that does not mean it DID exist before the Flood.

[When we have evidence that it existed before the time of the claimed Flood, then it's NOT INCREDULITY, fallacy-finder!
It's based on THE EVIDENCE, NOT "sole.y on their incredulity/disbelief."]

We have no such evidence that China existed before the Flood.

Self-Mutation, Freethought and Rationalism Discussion Board 59 Comments [5/15/2012 3:35:06 AM]
Fundie Index: 80

Quote# 87346

(Explaining why he thinks time travel could not be used to prove God's existence or nonexistence)

And if he travels a neuron [sic] through time, then good for him.

but I have bad news for atheists. Even if we invented time travel, the most popular place to go would be Jerusalem circa 1 B.C. and watch Jesus' whole life from birth to death. We would not see Jesus though. Why? I'm glad you asked.

We wouldn't see Him because God would obviously know about what we are doing and He's not going to allow every human being to witness all the miracles first hand. Remember I said that stuff was a one time deal?

So an atheist going back in time and saying, "Aha! No Jesus!" would mean absolutely nothing. Of course He's not going to be there. God isn't stupid.

So even with time travel, atheists still would not "get their proof."

I cringe when I watch Back to the Future and watch Christopher Lloyd in the beginning say, "Or witness the birth of Christ!" and he sets the date to December 25, 0000. I always facepalm that.

Self-Mutation, Freethought and Rationalism Discussion Board 74 Comments [5/15/2012 3:33:21 AM]
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