Quote# 56337

If I were to get assigned to a women's unit and get to shower with them, sleep next to them - though my sinful nature would think this would be quite the deal, there's no doubt that the ability to defend our country would be hindered. So why in the world would we want men or women who have a same-sex attraction doing the same thing? Are they somehow "above" this? Don't think so. We've lost all common sense. The Father of Lies is seeping in throughout our society and we're going to pay for it.

rolln4him, Americans' Confidence in Religion Waning, Poll Finds 25 Comments [1/19/2009 1:33:07 AM]
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Submitted By: AJ1978

Quote# 56639

Atheists believe in no god. It relies on scientific findings and analysis of those findings. They do not believe in faith, the bible, the Qur’an, the torah, the rig-Veda, or any other holy scripture. Since they do not believe in this, they rely on other's scientific research to tell them how the universe started or what happens when they die.

Atheism has major flaws; I will only outline three in this short but brief blog post.


The First Flaw

In my opinion, atheism already contradicts itself for not believing in faith. They believe that science does not rely on faith. Completely wrong...Science does rely on faith. A scientific inquiry or theory that has been developed must be accepted by others. They must have FAITH in that theory so they can BELIEVE it is true. Example, for hundreds of years scientists declared that damage to the spinal cord is irreversible...FALSE! The spinal cord does regenerate, but at a much slower pace than any other part in the body.

The Second Flaw

Atheists claim to be "free thinkers" when evidently they're not. They prescribe to scientific theories that have been developed by humans. This clearly does defeat the purpose of free thinking because in effect they only are listening to one source (science in this case). Me as a Christian I look at one source the bible, but I take it as a whole and find the deeper meaning to the words. Not just like "So the chicken came before the egg gotcha" (atheist perspective) vs. "So Why did the chicken come first" (Christian/religious perspective).


The Third Flaw

How will you prove using the scientific method does produce truth? Because it's "scientific"? Because science said so? Again, the question "By what authority does science have by proclaiming to be the truth than religion"?

The statement "The results of the scientific method should be followed" is unscientific because it is a value statement that does not get its authority from anywhere but itself.

"We should use the scientific method." Why should we? "It proves itself." How does it prove itself? "It uses the scientific method."

Atheist Statement: "The scientific method is true because it works and because it is axiomatic (self-evident)."

Christian answer: Sounds a lot like faith to me. Who decides what is axiomatic? Does the scientific method decide it? That makes it circular if it does. If not, then it is not scientific itself.

Atheism serves no goal in one's life except Surviving. This goal is one that not even I can comprehend for if your only goal would be for surviving the truly you should look deeper into what life truly means

Nikolas Lopez, Atom 40 Comments [1/19/2009 1:32:00 AM]
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Quote# 56428

[Apparently this one never heard of the NEW testament]

Parroting people using the same vile wording is unattractive.
Nothing has been added or removed from Scripture. Only a fool would believe that it has. There are no NEW books! LOL!
What do you care about what God did or didn't do? You don't believe He exists....or do you?
This is interesting!

NormalNOrma, Online Life 17 Comments [1/19/2009 1:27:15 AM]
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Quote# 56488

Yes, but the difference is that atheists can't logically support morals, beyond morality being merely a personal preference,
and thus something a thief can vaildly reject for himself, because when he says that stealing isn't "wrong for him",
any atheist's argument against that sentiment is not based on anything that is even logically compatible with atheism.
With atheism, you are left with believing in evolution, which teaches survival of the fittest as the one and only way that progress (evolution) occurs, whether we like it or not.
I.e., when you and your friend are starving in the desert, it's best to kill him and take his food and water. An atheist cannot call that even slightly wrong, and back up his statement with reason. After all, you're doing this to survive, so it's fully defensible to those who put a premium on survival, and to anyone who accepts survival of the fittest as the reigning concept of life. In fact, attacking your potential competition ruthlessly is what you should do based on the evolutionary theory of how progress is made: you're simply advancing the species by taking every cruel advantage you can of other people, by the evolutionary model. Who can sat you are in the wrong except a religious person? No one. The quote, "One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" is what we're left with: pure moral relativism, when stealing isn't wrong, but is rather just someone else's version of what is right.

Stealing is survival of the fittest:
It's the smarter and/or more powerful annexing the property of the less intelligent and/or weaker for one's own furtherance.
That's simply the way life works, under the evolutionary model: Attack them before they attack you.

There is no rational defense of morality within an atheistic framework. Anything deemed "morality" must come from outside atheism, and indeed from outside the physical world itself. For physical survival (which is the only kind atheists believe in), simple expediency is best: morality when it benefits you materially, and immorality when it benefits you materially.

Ragtime, WrongPlanet 40 Comments [1/18/2009 11:28:39 PM]
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Submitted By: Grassy Knowledge

Quote# 56124

The fossil evidence does not support evolution. Animal types appear fully formed without transitionals. There are also many multi strata fossils of plants and animals crossing supposed long times.

The fossil evidense shows animals dying in a catastrophic flood - the flood of Noah.

The fossil evidense for ape to man evolution is even worse
see Lucy She's No Lady a DVD

whirlingmerc, Yahoo Answers 33 Comments [1/18/2009 11:14:33 PM]
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Submitted By: J Arcenas

Quote# 56721

[Reaction to a Christian, Muslim and Jew praying together for peace among nations.]

It is so sad and downright sickening to me that some so-called Christians compromise their faith by mingling in with these other faiths.

Yes, we are to love all people and share the gospel with them, but certainly not stoop down and be part of them. I can't see how these 'Christians' can pray a prayer if it isn't in Jesus name. I guess they are really not born again like they think they are.

><>KarateMom<><, Rapture Ready 63 Comments [1/18/2009 10:52:28 PM]
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Submitted By: Hadron

Quote# 56101

I just love the 600,000 years & the 2,000,000 years since the last eruptions of Yellowstone caldera. Since the Flood, was about 5,000 years ago and the oldest living tree is around 4,500 years, we probably can conjecture that Yellowstone last blew it's top in the days of Peleg

Quote:
Gen 10:25 "And unto Eber were born two sons: the name of one [was] Peleg; for in his days was the earth divided; and his brother's name [was] Joktan."

Just a thought

svend, Rapture Ready 30 Comments [1/18/2009 10:46:08 PM]
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Quote# 56517

The UK is a wicked and godless nation as is Canada. They are getting the judgment of God with the financial meltdown and their problems with a growing Islamic population. No evil nation has ever gone unpunished. I think that the sins of the west though will be ultimately judged in the Great Tribulation which I don't think is far off.

Trevormac, Rapture Ready 35 Comments [1/18/2009 10:44:32 PM]
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Submitted By: ritom

Quote# 56642

This is just MORE OROOF that Jesus IS out there, & He's roaring like the Lion of the Tribe of Judah that He is! EVERYTHING points back to God! Science has just proven that God IS REAL--& not the other way around~ Take a look at the very 'glue' that we,humans have in us,gluing our cells together---its in the shape of a cross! Its called Laminin. Also,in the Black Hole,Nasa finally got to get a pic of it & guess whats inside of that? A CROSS! The Lord is trying to get the worlds attention! Next time Jesus comes back, it WILL BE as the Roaring Lion of the Tribe of Judah! So, don't miss out! We cannot even 'imagine' how Heaven is going to look! Just pray a simple prayer--asking God to reveal Himself to you,if He is real. I promise that He WILL! Blessings to you all!

voice4truth, Space.com comments 55 Comments [1/18/2009 10:44:00 PM]
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Submitted By: Fox

Quote# 56225

Jesus does indeed offer freedom, which is why you are not living in a Pagan society where there was no freedom.

Sugarhitman, FRDB 26 Comments [1/18/2009 10:41:17 PM]
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Submitted By: Headache

Quote# 55939

Bush is totally in touch with reality. 9/11 should have been a wake-up call for every patriotic American. If it had been 40 minutes later and 15 stories lower 30,000 people would have been murdered in 90 minutes. I'd call that efficient murdering on a Nazi-like scale. Muslim fanaticism was let out of the cage with Carter's reckless, uneducated, outright stupid approach to foreign policy. Typical Liberal ignoring Islam's destructive, murderous 700 year history.

reversea, Youtube 34 Comments [1/18/2009 10:16:19 PM]
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Quote# 56521

Boycott Campbell’s. Make Your Own Heterosexual Soup

In light of Campbell's decision to support the homosexual agenda by continuing to spend its advertising dollars in pro-homosexual publications, here is an opportunity to share your favorite soup recipes for those who do not wish to support Campbells any more.

metmom, Free Republic 59 Comments [1/18/2009 9:14:48 PM]
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Quote# 56358

"They will curse The Lord God to His Face, for the punishment was so severe." I asked The Holy Spirit to reveal the meaning of what God had said. A Mighty Angel took me in my spirit, above San Francisco California. The surface of the earth became transparent, and I could see the geological time bomb waiting to detonate.

The stress on the earth under that region is immense. Tremors are already beginning. There have been several in the past months. The Angel said, "I will show you the dark man." We were transported to Washingtom D.C., on Inauguration day, 2009.

I said to The Mighty Angel of God, "When the stars and moon fail to shed their light."

TheAngel replied, "The stars and moon cannot be seen, until the darkness comes. For some, the light will never come again." The Angel brought my spirit to rest in my physical body, and I slowly was released from the anointing by The Holy Spirit.

I think this is what's going to happen: When Osama Bin Ladin is being inaugurated, an earthquake will occur in San Francisco, California, in retribution for the sodomites violating Nature, and wives usurping The God Ordained Authority of their husbands over them, or remaing single, becoming an occasion for men to stumle into sin.

Prophet_Seth, Christian Forums 31 Comments [1/18/2009 7:58:04 PM]
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Submitted By: Adam

Quote# 56671

(On Christians and debating)

I tried debating a raging atheist over evolution and creation, and it ultimately caused me to seriously question my faith for several years!!! satan can really fool us with logical sounding arguments and has dragged more than one solid Christian into doubt over such issues!

ole shosty, prophecy fellowship 40 Comments [1/18/2009 7:52:47 PM]
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Submitted By: Dave

Quote# 56300

It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so, and will follow it by suppressing opposition, subverting all education to seize early the minds of the young, and by killing, locking up, or driving underground all heretics.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

That’s exactly what the atheistic communists did. More than 100 million murdered by starvation, bullet, and torture, and the communist heretics were reduced to copying subversive books on tiny pieces of paper that they furtively passed between themselves.

Great people those atheists.

Yet,....Once the bible was easily in reach of the common man. We suddenly saw a rapid increase in the rule of law, honest courts, and fair government officials, and the creation of wealth. The warlords were plainly told that they too we equal before the law. Freedom flourished. Slavery was abolished for the first time in human history.

Christianity is a **REVOLUTIONARY** idea!

wintertime, Free Republic 32 Comments [1/18/2009 7:50:16 PM]
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Quote# 56612

[Reacting to the Book "The Shack"]

Reminds me of 2 other bestseller books that were works of FICTION, but are quoted and discussed today with
such reverence, they were clearly taken as FACTUAL by the readers. One of them even has one of the AUTHORS stating over and over in interviews today that it was a work of FICTION.

Holy Grail/Holy Blood and The DaVinci Code are the two books I am referring to.

We really don't need yet another work of fiction that will cause people to get confused between fact and fantasy.

The Devil's brilliant diversionary tactics is what they are...IMO

SueAnn, Fulfilled Prophecy 28 Comments [1/18/2009 7:45:52 PM]
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Quote# 56648

Tell me how this universe came to exist without a cause.

You've got 2 choices. Either something caused it, or not. The logical, rational conclusion is that this universe could not have come to exist without a creator. It's impossible. If one option is proven wrong, and the other option is the only one, then a logical, rational person would choose the remaining option.

Yet, you guys continue to choose to ignore logic and hold to a fairy tale.

kdbrich, city-data.com 39 Comments [1/18/2009 6:46:53 PM]
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Quote# 56221

Evolution is a Theory not a fact.Most sciencest Have Studied this Theory but not even one can not prove.Plus My Ant sisters werent monkeys or Apes.Even though there still are monkeys and Apes.How can a fish become a bird one day?hm maybe my gold fish can.For people whodont know,do research about"Intelligent Design."Lots of science believe on aGreater Power then us.I am one of them.Just do research rather then being Ignorant.Cause ifyou masure every thing, it has a Balance.look at the video above

coolfool147, Youtube 59 Comments [1/18/2009 5:54:13 PM]
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Submitted By: JustinHampel

Quote# 56481

You can say what you like but you'll have to invent your own language. The English language is deep-rootedly a Christian language, whether you like it or not.

That's why I call you atheists a godless bunch. Technically, you shouldn't be offended. But the dictionary will tell you that "godless" has a negative connotation. It's always a godless evildoer.

"He performs Christian acts" means he performs kind acts.

Sorry folksies, that's the English language for you.

Christian mythology will immediately refer to things like the 3 wise men who brought gold, etc to Jesus. That's Christian mythology.

That's the English language.

beamishboy, Atheist Forums 84 Comments [1/18/2009 4:20:12 AM]
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Quote# 56364

Allah was a pre-islamic moon god whose wife was the sun goddess and the stars were his daughters.



They can say they worship the same God all they want, but by the very first tenet of their religion he is the ONLY god allowed.

The Bible is the sole source for information about who and what God is. As the Word of God it tells us plainly.

If there God goes by any other name than Jesus, he is a false idol.

Mohammad was the prophet of nothing. They are worshiping nothing. No wonder their "god" has them blow stuff up.

I agree that not all of them are mindless fanatics. And that some of them are nice people.

But the reason there are islamic terrorists is because there is Islam. A false religion of a false god.

And unfortunately you can't reason with fanatics.

John Atkinson, Good News Cafe 47 Comments [1/18/2009 4:12:50 AM]
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Quote# 56953

(This is about the movie The Unborn.)

A young woman finds out that she is a twin and her brother died in utero. The brother wants to be born and is slowly taking over the sister's body, like a demonic possession. There is even an exorcism scene (which sounds ridiculous to me).

Although I'm not keen on horror flicks, I think this is a positive step.The humanity of the unborn child is being acknowledged in our mainstream culture.

I have no intention of seeing it. But I do wonder if it'll change anyone's mind about having an abortion.

(The picture is priceless.)

SUZANNE, Big Blue Wave 35 Comments [1/18/2009 3:39:41 AM]
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Submitted By: Sayaka

Quote# 56345

There was one Adam, one Eve. They were joined by God alone. One female horse, one male; one female parrot, one male, at the beginning, as He told us to go back, there was only one pair of anything. Then we find out that everything in the beginning was running in perfect order and harmony with God; nothing was out of cater. Now, when human beings was running in continuity with God, with one man and one woman, this woman sinned. And it throwed the whole earthly program out of continuity with God. Then it was the woman that caused the separation of the lovely home. It was not a Cherubim that bothered the earth. It was not Adam that throwed the home out. It was not anything else that throwed the home out and throwed the whole thing out of continuity, but a woman: Eve.

chirandu, http://www.cbc.ca 64 Comments [1/18/2009 2:28:10 AM]
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Submitted By: Illuminatalie

Quote# 56131

"Fossils are fickle they sing any song you want to hear" one evolutionist said. The so called evidence for ape to man evolution is terrible. You can tell by exhibit A, the Lucy fassil. The Australo pithicus Aferensus has a tree climbing pelvis and meat hooks hands for trees. Its an extinct ape not man's ancenstor but fossils will sing any song you want to hear.

Evolution is false. It it bad science. Nopthing about the Lucy fossil shows an ape to man tranition and yet illustrators change the feet and hands and eyes to misrepresent Lucy to children in museums and textbooks.

It is not the evidence that cries evolution is true but a preference of the heart to not believe God. The evidence aint there

whirlingmerc, Yahoo Answers 44 Comments [1/17/2009 8:41:35 PM]
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Submitted By: J Arcenas

Quote# 56202

[If it is, how do you know its your God that did it or at least your interpretation of God. May be it was a whole army of Gods.]

Easy!

First page of The Bible: Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

There is absolutely no proof that the Bible is wrong.

Fountain Man, BBC Religion & Ethics 49 Comments [1/17/2009 8:40:25 PM]
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Submitted By: Gareth1984

Quote# 56396

Ok ok ok, Atheists, if everybody agrees to try out being Atheists for a week, what will happen?
Let see... if we become an Atheist for a week, starting Sunday...

1. Stop praying. Studying boring science.
2. Won't give up my seat for an old lady
3. Tell a homeless person to go get a job.
4. Everybody gets divorce
5. President will end all welfare checks and no more money giving to Organization which help people and just give money to Corporations and Banks and force everyone to work everyday, no break on Saturday and Sunday.
6. Many people will suffered heart condtion, everyday will be like Monday... (according to Dr. Oz on Oprah, workers have bad heart condition on Monday).
7. Riot and Loot are rising... and nobody will help Israel, the holy land, and war war war and more war...

You think so?

What do you think will happened?

missfilmdirector, Y!A 93 Comments [1/17/2009 8:39:58 PM]
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Submitted By: adam