Quote# 24521

A true, honest and serious study of the bible reveals the virtual impossibility that 40 men writing 66 books without inspiration over 4000 years could have authored such a coherent, consistent and clear "story," explanation of God's purpose, His reasons for dealing with man like He did, and free gift of salvation.

Tychicus1769, Youtube 52 Comments [5/1/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: RoseThorns

Quote# 24480

I would say 95% of Christians "tone down" the Gospel on a regular basis in order to avoid "offending" people. We cringe at the thought of sounding "intolerant." Some people claim we must water down the Gospel in order to draw in the unbelievers. That is to say, if we preach the Bible, they'll be "turned off." Here is my response to such heresy:

If we water down the Gospel in order to draw people into Christianity, it won't be Christianity anymore. It will be another gospel, and those people we "draw in" will be deceived by our false gospel, and will surely be condemned as a result.

Do we want to be responsible for such a thing?

Why not preach the truth boldly, and leave the rest to the sovereign God?

Why do we avoid preaching about the Judgement and the Lake of Fire when such events/places are BIBLICAL FACT?

IF WE REALLY LOVE UNBELIEVERS AS WE CLAIM TO, IS IT NOT OUR OBLIGATION TO WARN THEM ABOUT HELL?

Brent, Christian Forums 59 Comments [5/1/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Aaron

Quote# 24484

God knows who is wicked and who is not. He knows whose faking it. But of course, he is all-powerful so people naturally to save their own necks will conform or try to impress the deity. So to get past that facade he does like we do, the unannounced "spot check." That's the story of the Good Samaritan. The rabbi and priest walk past this person on the street they don't want to deal with. But little do they know it's the king! Had they known it was the king or recognized him, they would have been sooooo exited for this opportunity to gain his favor, right? They would have bent over backwards. But because he was just a common-looking man, they ignore him. But the Good Samaritan, with truer values, helps this man out. In the end: Suprise! He turns out to be the Messiah, the King! The Good Samaritan gets the kings blessing, and the priest and rabbi who claim to be the king's servants get their walking papers.

So yes, in the end God did trick Satan. Satan was a murderous bitch (called "the woman" at Gen 3:15) from the beginning and the temptation to kill billions of potential innocent humans was just too much to resist. But God turns the tables on him/her by making it possible for those who were killed to be adopted by Christ, who dies without children and thus entitled to adopt, and thus they get saved. That is, their death is not permanent. So in the end, it's not about dying, everybody dies. God makes it a new requirement. It's becoming eligible to come back that makes all the difference.

Larsguy47, IIDB 38 Comments [5/1/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Winston Jen

Quote# 24485

Once again you misunderstand christianity. God gave us all free will for one purpose so that we could voluntarily love him. We were all born nonbelievers that is what makes are return to the father that much sweeter. God does not want to punish you he wants to love you but if you resist every attempt he makes to reach out to you then he has no choice. The bible is not without flaw but I believe that is so so that we don't complacently rely on it. The doubt created by the fallibility of the bible increases our faith.

TreeofSephri, Naruto Forums 48 Comments [5/1/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Winston Jen

Quote# 24488

Discussing US soldiers opposing the Iraq War:
Anyone could sign up there with a very common name and claim to be a vet, that was my only point. They could be al-queda operatives as far as anyone really knows. Or Ramsey Clark.

Ripped, Rapture Ready 23 Comments [5/1/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Marylandbear

Quote# 24490

You don't understand. You were already a victim of violence. Satan killed you in your mother's womb. You were aborted before you had a chance for life.

In order to save you, there has to be some pain and suffering and eventual death. That is, to SAVE Adam's children, they have to be born even though they will die and will have to come back after all of them are born over time, short of 6000 years. But rather than have not not go through this temporary pain and death, including the pain of your loved ones dying, you never would have been born. God decided you MUST BE BORN so you had a fighting chance for life Satan stole from you. You're blaming God for that incidental pain in your life that is the basis for you to be able to live.

Now some people "complain" and whimper because God isn't in the kitchen washing their dishes for them while they sit around and watch TV and order more microwave popcorn. Others, are extremely grateful for this wonderful second chance.

I, being the Christ, for my part, have requested that the lake of fire be heated up 100 times hotter so these poor, miserable people can be put out of their misery even sooner when I throw them to their "second death."

12 Kiss the son, that He may not become incensed
And YOU may not perish [from] the way,
For his anger flares up easily.
Happy are all those taking refuge in him.

Not that I'd tell anybody to "Kiss my ASSets, or die!" but, I'm versatile and if that's what the crowd wants, I can work it into the plan. No problem.

Larsguy47, IIDB 34 Comments [5/1/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Winston Jen

Quote# 24495

"PC factors into this in how the left (in an attempt not to offend the atheist) refuses to allow Intelligent Design to be taught in the science class regardless of how valid it is. Removing our Christian element out of the public sphere is part of what’s causing our country to go strait down the tubes.

And the Christians have the right to voice their opinion without constantly being belittled by the noticeable bigotry of the “politically correct”.

Alien Syndrome, Fark 46 Comments [5/1/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 24497

The worst of this can be seen in the frightening websites that purport to be support groups for girls with anorexia and bulimia.

Such sites claim that these two disorders are a religion, not a disease, and pray to false gods named after them: Ana and Mia.

Courtney E. Martin, The Courier Mail 36 Comments [5/1/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 24500

IJCR is a professional peer-reviewed journal of interdisciplinary scientific research that presents evidence for recent creation within a biblical framework.

Addressing the need to disseminate the vast field of research conducted by experts in geology, genetics, astronomy, and other disciplines of science, IJCR provides scientists and students hard data based on cutting-edge research that demonstrates the young earth model, the global Flood, the non-evolutionary origin of the species, and other evidences that correlate to the biblical accounts.

[includes links to Call for Papers, and to their unscientific Peer Review process]

Institute for Creation Research, Institute for Creation Research Graduate School 36 Comments [5/1/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: fuzon

Quote# 24503

"Di Vinci studied in anatomy in secrecy. The church was in charge of it in his day, so he would sneak corpses into his quarters and disect them at night. When he completed his research, he determined that God did not exist in the human body as the church claimed He did. In fact, after seeing what all he did, Leonardo found disbelief in God. However, from seeing how delicate the heart is, but also how precise, and the fact that it works on its own, I don't see how someone couldn't see God in that"


Prodigal Daughter, BibleForums.org 31 Comments [5/1/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 24506

What were God's intentions in punishing Job? Well, first of all, God wasn't inflicting the punishment...Satan was. However, if you'll notice, Job was sitting pretty until God mentioned him to Satan...and then the problems for Job began.

Okay, God didn't punish Job, but He allowed Satan to.

Satan isn't omniscient, so he may not have even been aware of Job...but since God brought up Job as an example of a righteous man, He opened Job up for the events that unfolded.

Sounds like God is pretty mean, huh?

...but, He isn't. God is omniscient, and He knew the end result: Job's restoration. So, what does the book of Job tell us, then? Why include it in the Bible at all?


Theophilus, BibleForums.org 42 Comments [5/1/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 24508

"Atheists would like us to believe that they are being persecuted because we live in a country with "In God We Trust" on our currency....and "Under God" in our Pledge of Allegiance....this is NOT persecution....this is living in a Christian nation founded on Christian principles. This is the way this country has been for hundreds of years. It was not changed during this generation simply to make your lives harder for your beliefs. Stop crying about it....everyone deals with unfair issues....whether it be race, religion, income....whatever. Life is hard and it isn't fair. Get over it. And here's some food for thought....you don't believe in God....well, I don't believe in atheists. I think many people like to profess atheism because then they aren't burdened by having to live up to a higher calling....but when it comes right down to it, I don't believe in true atheism. When an atheist is in a horrible car wreck and lies there dying, you can't tell me they won't call out to God in desperation....or when their innocent child is dying a terrible death by cancer, that they won't say a desperate prayer to God to help their child....you can (and probably will) argue with my beliefs, but they are what they are. Oh, and just for the record, I am not persecuting you or discriminating against you, I am simply exercising my right to free speech....in this beautiful Christian nation in which in God we trust."

Jaime Baldwin, Times News magicvalley.com 57 Comments [5/1/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Tanya

Quote# 24509

My personal opinion is that the source of cutting is demonic oppression. Sometimes it can come by things they do (ie. delving into 'innocent' occult things even in ignorance - ie. reading horoscopes, etc.)
doors can be opened to our enemie's territory and they can then effectively oppress us.

Nadiine, Christian Forums 32 Comments [5/1/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Roxas

Quote# 24515

Actually Christianity is a great blessing to Americans... Indians too. They stopped killing and torturing one another and live in peace. Most importantly they have found peace with God in Christ and enjoy a higher standard of living....Like other matters spiritual, God had it planned perfectly and Satan failed to prevent it or prevert it. God's love broke through.



LovesTruth, Christian Forums 63 Comments [5/1/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Shelly

Quote# 24516

[Ranking issues according to their importance in voting in the '08 election]

Terrorism & Homeland Security
Illegal* Immigration
Defense & Foreign Relations
Israel Policy
Trade & Globalization
Criminal Justice & Gun Laws
Abortion & Stem Cells
Health Care
Veterans
Environment
Social Security**
Gay Marriage**
Taxes & Spending**

Personal faith - 10

* added
** will be raptured before it becomes an issue

Kyle910, Rapture Ready 32 Comments [5/1/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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