Quote# 31888

There is no such thing as a "pacifist." Every "pacifist" is a muderer according to God's righteous Law.

Robert T. Lee, Ten Commandments 65 Comments [12/3/2007 3:32:10 PM]
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Submitted By: The Celestial Dung Beetle

Quote# 31883

Evolution is not a law of science.


Gravity now there is a law of science. There is proof for that stuff.

There is no law of evon because it is a hypothesis at best.

They try to say it is a theory but it is not yet that, let
alone a law.

What is evolution? Reincarnation, a hindu religion. Reincarnation holds that species return as different species.

Give us one fossil which is between species?

For the past 6000 years we have not seen man evolve.

It has to take billions of years, never never land stuff.


speakout, christiansforums 41 Comments [12/3/2007 3:31:05 PM]
Fundie Index: 8

Quote# 31887

I don't really like any of the Republican Candidates, to be honest. We Christians are being left out in the cold this election cycle by these "Republican" liberals and I can't see just giving the Republican party our vote. A mormon and catholic are leading the polls! Just what is happening, I can't figure it out.

I know this is probably difficult for some of you too, since the Democratic National Commitee seems to be a field office for Hell - Hillary just might be one of Satan's top captains! (joking, I hope) But seriously, I think I might start looking at third party candidates.

First off, I'm about sick of these athiests pushing their radical communist and homosexual agenda on every living person in the USA. This is OUR country, which has always been a christian nation, and we've been tolerant of them to the point they are trying to push US out. I need a candidate that is going to start making some laws that at least moderate some of the outrageous activities of these groups. It would be nice to see a return of legalized morality - and maybe even making people belong to a church, but I think the rapture will happen before we see anything that blessed.


Freed_From_Sin, Rapture Ready 39 Comments [12/3/2007 3:10:24 PM]
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Quote# 31880

Has a person ever made you so angry you wished he was dead? Then why can't you feel and express that same fervency of anger towards true criminals such as atheists, pedophiles, homosexuals, murders, rapists and etc? It is likely that the people who made you so angry did not commit death worthy crimes in the society; but the people we have name have. What you should wish for these people is that the government put them to death.

Robert T Lee, Ten Commandments 53 Comments [12/3/2007 2:18:33 PM]
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Submitted By: Scion

Quote# 31872

[From a thread on what True Christians(TM) should not read/watch. The usual suspects are there e.g., Harry Potter, but VeggieTales? Seriously?]

...[I]s anyone else bothered by Vegietales? I have seen a few and I think some of them (if not all) are disrespectful to God's Word and don't tell the exact story in the Bible. One episode I saw had nothing to do with God (except one mention of His name) and sounded like a rock concert.

Andrea, Fundamental Baptist Forum 34 Comments [12/3/2007 12:22:25 PM]
Fundie Index: 6
Submitted By: Maleficent

Quote# 31870

Homos like you are reprobate and have no right to spout off your opinion about the welfare of children from HETEROSEXUAL couples. You have been leaving your e-barf at street preachers and now here. You are going to Hell and there is not a thing you can do about it. Your mind is reprobate. Your morale compass is busted. The best thing you can do is listen to the audio sermons of WESTBORO BAPTIST CHURCH!!!!

preacher1218, Youtube 32 Comments [12/3/2007 11:29:24 AM]
Fundie Index: 7
Submitted By: Nami

Quote# 31875

Besides, Christianity isn't a religion.

[Christianity isn't a religion?]

Not at all. At least, not like others. This can be seen by looking at the words we use for modern religions: animism, buddhism, hinduism, taoism, mohommedism, judaism, communism, capitalism, humanism, secularism, conservatism, liberalism, libertarianism.

What do these words all have in common? They are all isms. An ism is an ideology, a world view. It is a lense which filters all we see to conform to the lense we have chosen.

Christianity is not an ism.

Anonymous, Vote For Jesus 71 Comments [12/3/2007 11:06:30 AM]
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Submitted By: Phil

Quote# 31874

[...]

Don't kid yourself. There is BIG money in the abortion business. That's why they want kids to have birth control and constantly saturate them with sex and dis abstinance. They know kids will be careless and eventually get pregnant. Then they'll want an abortion - ideally without the parents knowledge or consent. Abortionists like repeat business.

If you believe I'm being too harsh or wrong ... you're wrong.


felixthecat, Rapture Ready 44 Comments [12/3/2007 10:54:11 AM]
Fundie Index: 6

Quote# 31877

[Re: a parent complaining about his son being taught that people are animals]

So do tress. Tell your son your teacher is not quite right in the head.

And I want to add to those who agree that on a "scientific level" that humans are animals, that you need to step away from the scientific understanding of these things. The same science that says we evolved from primates is the one telling you you are an animal.

They're wrong.

There are animals, vegetables, minerals...and HUMANS. Science doesn't get the distinction because science is spiritually dead. Don't fall into that trap. Calling you an animal is like calling a giant redwood a speck of dust. They're so far removed from each other the comparison is absurd.


Angyl, Rapture Ready 40 Comments [12/3/2007 10:50:58 AM]
Fundie Index: 9

Quote# 31871

Genesis 1 and 2 are all the science I need to know that God created everything we see. (and everything we don't )
What more do we need to know? If God had wanted us to know any more, he would have inspired the writer of Genesis to add that in. If it's not in the Bible, I don't need to know about it!

Thomas07, Rapture Ready 40 Comments [12/3/2007 9:38:39 AM]
Fundie Index: 6

Quote# 31869

I don't read "talk origins" (wash my mouth.) the atheistic evo fundies unholy babble. You ought to take time out to learn what evidence is rather than link me to biased opinion.

FoeHammer, Christian Forums 26 Comments [12/2/2007 10:57:23 PM]
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Submitted By: Daecon

Quote# 31866

I would like to know a couple things:

1)Why, when you try to add a legitimate link to the "Official Hovind and pro-Hovind" section such as Penalty Protestor--offering updated court documents and case summery and Free Hovind--offering free video/audio content , they are deleted almost immediately? Could it be that a pro evolutionist aka atheist is the page editor?

2)Why is there so much negative/smear propaganda for what's supposed to be biographical? This page is so biased against Kent Hovind, evidenced by it's conspicuous-by-omission of anything positive said about the man, that it obviously a smear campaign.

3) How will you feel on Judgment-Day when Kent is vindicated and crowned for the tens-of-thousands of souls won for Jesus? What will you say to God then?--Mat 12:36 "But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment."

Pray4Hovind, Wikipedia 33 Comments [12/2/2007 9:54:46 PM]
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Submitted By: Zoe

Quote# 31865

One of the reasons ladies oft times turn out to be better leaders than men is that city life is conducive to this. There are not many chores for boy to do like milking the cows, chopping the wood, etc. There are chores for the girls. What happens? Boy grow up without any chores, no milking cows, no feeding pigs, not gathering eggs, no chores like we had on the farm or at he edge of town. Girls, however, can iron, keep house, cook, wash and dry the dishes. Hence, they are taught initiative, whereas the boys find few masculine duties to perform. Hence, the parent must work hard to find masculine-type duties.

I never let my boy do feminine chores. The dish washing has been done by the girls. He does no ironing, etc. He must keep his room clean and tidy, but his chores have been masculine chores such as cleaning the basement, taking out the garbage, having an afternoon job, moving the yard, etc.

Pastor Jack Hyles, How To Make A Man Out of a Boy 50 Comments [12/2/2007 9:42:17 PM]
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Quote# 31863

More Christians have been murdered and persecuted for their faith in the last century than all of history combined. And YOU think it's because they want to be? Don't tell me we make reasons up to be persucted. People like you hate the conviction it brings on your heart so you lash out.Just like the people did with Jesus Christ, you know what they did to him. It's no different than what people like you are doing toChristianstoday. You show your ignorance and disregard for human life and what someone believes in. How many athiest have you heard die for their Atheism? Now..how many Christians have you heard of dying for their faith?I've never heard of a man dying for a lie. Thousands of Chinese and middle eastern Christians are dying each day for Christ...and you Atheist sit here and crack jokes and laugh pointing your crooked little fingers while others are dying and being riddiculed for their faith. So many Christian organizations and people help the world out and this is the gratitude you people give them. The Salvation army, YMCA,The Red Cross, The entire USA, and so many more were all started by Christians. How many Atheist groups have helped mankind? The ACLU?? all they do is fight to get God out of society. It's really sad that you are so selfish as to hate so many others for their faith in the one who came so save the world from their sins.

Lakin0817, GameFAQs.com 38 Comments [12/2/2007 9:42:03 PM]
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Quote# 31862

Cherubim are the most mighty. They have a different body to man, and, they, like Christ, are supernaturally enhanced by atomic miniaturisation, 144,000 times more than man today. Their function is to give or withhold pleasures from men and angels, a function which Satan, who was the anointed cherub and has present power over the earth, now misuses to tempt to evil.

His wickedness, however, is limited by God, who has already punished him somewhat to deter him: Art thou not it that hath . . . wounded the dragon. (Isaiah 51:9) And there is worse to come for Satan, when: in that day the Lord with his sore great and strong sword shall punish Leviathon the piercing serpent . . . and shall slay the dragon that is in the sea.

Pleasures experienced today on earth are natural and not enhanced by cherubim as they were supposed to be. Nevertheless, by goodness and obedience and wisdom, peace and adequate pleasure may be obtained.

But in the future Satan will die, and his memorial will be a place of everlasting shame, covered with worms, and consumed by fire. In his stead will be four female cherubim, who also will be the future wives of Jesus. These cherubim will enhance pleasure for those in their kingdoms.

The cherubim are now as little girls, but during the last century of the millennium they will mature, and at the close of the millennium they will marry Jesus, and then for all eternity, Jesus’ four wives will bring him joy. They and Jesus, being dedicated to their duty, did not dream that the heavenly Father planned romance and a marriage for even them. Even now perhaps that believe not for joy.

digby smith, digby smith: Christian Doctrine 52 Comments [12/2/2007 9:24:08 PM]
Fundie Index: 9

Quote# 31860

Don't loose your faith over some one elses stupitidy. God also gave us our own minds. Just to through this in, the Jehovah's witness is not of the Christian faith as they clam to be. If you will study all the Christian church is baised on the "Father, Son and Holy Ghost". The Jehovah's whitness belive that Jesus was a prophet and not the son of God. This makes them a cult and not a church of the Christian faith.
I had a good friend of mine who lost a child to cancer a few years back. As he talked to me he said he blamed God for his childs death. He said "How can a good and loving God like people say let a child suffer and let them die like God had let his child". I ask him how many time he had taken his child to church or how much he had tried to lead his child to God. He answered, none. I told him not to blame God for something that he had never allowed God to be a part of.

Thunderfoot, JREF 31 Comments [12/2/2007 9:10:44 PM]
Fundie Index: 11

Quote# 31859

[The whole article is full of fatal levels of stupid]
By now, the oft-recurring negative portrayals of Christianity in major Hollywood movies have become hackneyed and predictable. The recent rendition of Beowulf only reinforced this trend. The same subtle depictions and motifs present in movies from decades past were once again present, a favorite being the attempt to try to depict pagans as “open-minded” and “free-spirited” peoples, or, quite anachronistically, as medieval counterparts to the modern, secular, liberal. The idea being that pagan peoples — unencumbered by the suffocating forces of Christianity — were/are happy, passionate folk, able to live life to the fullest.



Raymond Ibrahim, NRO 32 Comments [12/2/2007 8:33:26 PM]
Fundie Index: 4
Submitted By: ninjacat11

Quote# 31855

[Secular Fundie Award]

"Muslims, like any other retarded off-shoot of Judaism, are a bunch of fucking pussy cry babies. They complain about anything and everything, and fuck me if they aren't totally retarded. If we could only get every islamic, christian, and jewish extremist in one convenient location, have them kill each other for our entertainment, and bomb the survivors, I think we would be in a much better place.

By the way, FUCK muhammad."

XQJ47 Automatic Roto Plooker , FSTDT Comments 43 Comments [12/2/2007 6:28:19 PM]
Fundie Index: 7
Submitted By: TB Tabby

Quote# 31850

[Robert T Lee gives us a completely valid testament about atheists from a 7 year old. Ahem. No, it's true. Honest...]

Hi everyone. I am 7 years of age. I want to let you knoe what and atheist ears. And atheist iis a person who uses his brain the wrung way.. Atheist don't know trutht. no one can no truth if theu rejek it. atheists are fools. They say it is no GOD. i afraid of atheists. if my parents wood have been atheists, they probably wood have killed me when eye i was in my mama woomb. Atheist kill sic olld people. atheists are nasty. atheist put a lot bad thing on the computer. atheists are dangerous. ppeople

[The site itself may have been taken down now so the URL links to a rebuttal page, where the rest of Lee's madness is revealed]

Robert T Lee, Society for the Practical establishment and Perpetuation of the Ten Commandments 55 Comments [12/2/2007 6:24:19 PM]
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Submitted By: CalRC

Quote# 31853

Feminists and rebellious wives won't like God. God literally says... "Do it my way or else!" God is an extremely jealous God... and so is the godly husband. A man should be jealous over his wife, and desire to know her whereabouts at all times. In today's immoral society, a Christian husband should be concerned about whom his wife is associating wife. A Christian husband has a right to determine his wife's friends, and say "no," if she wants to get into a car with another man for a seemingly innocent ride to church, etc. A husband should never allow his wife to be alone with another man, for any reason, and should get upset if she does. This is what jealous husbands, who love their wives, do. The false idea that love equals trust is Satanic. Many parents foolishly think they are loving their teens by "trusting them." Well, the Columbine parents found out the hard way that teens shouldn't be trusted. Trust must be earned! No husband should trust his wife to be alone with the opposite sex, and vise versa. This is good sense. I realize that most people today laugh at such moral standards, but that is to be expected in a society that flocks to SIN CITY Las Vegas to indulge in wickedness.

David J. Stewart, jesus-is-savior.com 73 Comments [12/2/2007 4:36:39 PM]
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Submitted By: Charlie

Quote# 31852

It seems that many people (Christians included) start off with the presumption that science is correct. When there is a point that science and the Bible disagree on (whether it be age of the Earth, creation account, or whatever,) they proceed to either allegorize or explain away the Biblical account.

Shouldn't we (as Christians) start out by presuming the inerrancy of God's Word? If there is a scientific conclusion that disagrees with the Bible, shouldn't it be the scientific conclusion that is brought into question? Since we know that God's word is correct and accurate, our first assumption should be "maybe my conclusion/experiment/research is in error" rather than "that passage of the Bible must be an allegory" or "must have been written in a way that 'primitive' humans could better understand it."

As an example, take the creation account. If you read the Biblical creation account without the "benefit" or "insight" of modern science, what conclusion do you come to? It is certainly not the conclusion that man and ape evolved from a common ancestor.

I would say the same thing about the age of the Earth. If you read the Bible without the "benefit" or "insight" of modern scientific discoveries, you would come to no conclusion other than an Earth that is approximately 6,000 years old. The "gap theory" and other explanations didn't come along until science told us that the Earth and universe are millions/billions of years old. Shouldn't we be starting all of our scientific research from the basis that the Bible is accurate and inerrant?

Kknight, Rapture Ready 39 Comments [12/2/2007 4:34:47 PM]
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Submitted By: CalRC

Quote# 31847

THIS IS VERY WRONG!!!! THIS IS BLIND FACTS...Quantom physics actually agrees with creationalism. YES and thats a fact. advanced sceince research also agrees with creationalism. According to C14 dating a sead chicken that's less than 72 hours dead is said to be more than 15 million years old. THEY HAVE NO REAL EVIDENCE AGAINST CREATIONALISM AND CREATIONALISM HAS MORE EVIDENCE AGAINST ANYTHING ELSE BECAUSE SCIENCE AND QUANTOM PHYSICS CAN"T EXIST WITHOUT IT!

1Agent19, Youtube 49 Comments [12/2/2007 4:27:31 PM]
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Quote# 31849

[In the faq on John Lennon's Imagine]

How can you say the world would be better without religion? Granted many people die over religion, but if you truely ponder a world without religion what are you left with? People who kill and fight because they have no morals or soul because they have no direction from a greater power. This is why leaders like Bush are hated by many failing to see the BIG picture.

Tim, Songfacts.com 44 Comments [12/2/2007 4:05:38 PM]
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Quote# 31843

We live in bizarre times. Not too long ago every Mainer knew that sex change operations and witchcraft were as wrong as adultery and murder. It is impossible to understand what is happening because it is an inversion of reality. This is what makes it possible for deviant behavior and dark ideologies to be aggressively promoted as normal without effective resistance. It is irresponsible for adults to promote these ideas by presenting them without moral comment to impressionable young people who are maturing through puberty. Our Maine public school classrooms are looking more and more like the bar scene from Star Wars every day.

Mike Heath, MassResistance blog 33 Comments [12/2/2007 12:55:28 PM]
Fundie Index: 8

Quote# 31838

[the rest of this page is GOLD]

"What is the use of higher learning, critical thinking and educational skills when they do not enable you to know God?"

Robert T Lee, Ten Commandments 46 Comments [12/2/2007 9:31:02 AM]
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Submitted By: Scion