Quote# 32068

He said that while religion and state are separated for good reason, religion should not be completely banished from public life. He accused some Americans of taking the division of state and religion to an extreme.

"It's as if they're intent on establishing a new religion in America, the religion of secularism. They are wrong," he said.

"We are a nation under God, and in God we do indeed trust," he added.

"We should acknowledge the creator as did the founders in ceremony and word. He should remain in our currency, in our pledge, in the teachings of history and in the holiday season, nativity scenes and menorahs should be welcome in our public places."


Mitt Romney, CBC.ca News 39 Comments [12/7/2007 6:42:18 AM]
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Quote# 32066

The old chicken or the egg paradox. Science can't answer this because it uses the present as the key to the past. Today chickens comes only from a chicken eggs and chicken eggs is only hatched from chickens. So no matter which one you choice it's based on faith.

Smidlee, Christian Forums 46 Comments [12/6/2007 10:53:36 PM]
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Quote# 32054

Thats exactly the same reason I'm burdened! I look at her and I see myself many years ago. A frightened little girl being torchered by satan. I was so alone and abandoned at that age, that I tried to kill myself a number of times too! The Lord kept me safe and delivered me and I KNOW He can do it for Ronnie!! Thankyou Jesus!!


AllforHim, Rapture Ready 32 Comments [12/6/2007 9:19:47 PM]
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Quote# 32064

Whenever I see someone with pierced ears I thing of someone who has put themselves into volunteer slavery for life. I don't think worse of them. The reference to a pierced ear in Exodus simply states how to mark a lifelong servant.

[rainbowpromises's christianforums.com character], Christian Forums 48 Comments [12/6/2007 9:03:56 PM]
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Quote# 32063

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I don't think he or his demons can read your mind. I seriously doubt that God would
allow that. They can however, shoot thoughts at you and start it with an "I" to
make it appear that they originated from you... for example, it you're worried about
or praying about your child's health, they can send some thought your way " I don't
think God is gonna heal my child." Of course it could be your flesh but I'm just using an
example. These spirits have been around a long time and have
been studying man for years so they are pretty good at figuring out how to tempt, test, or
hinder you. They also listen to you when you pray out loud to God & converse with others
so they pretty much know what's on your mind without having to read it.

LivnForChrist, Rapture Ready 27 Comments [12/6/2007 8:11:16 PM]
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Quote# 32062

My pastor explains it this way: God is omnipresent and knows everything beforehand. Satan can only be in one place at a time and therefore uses his demons in sort of a relay fashion. The demons don't know BEFOREhand what we are going to do or what we are thinking, but after the fact, they can relay messages to satan within nanoseconds.


Khristy 1, Rapture Ready 38 Comments [12/6/2007 8:10:08 PM]
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Quote# 32051

There are some who may feel that religion is not a matter to be seriously considered in the context of the weighty threats that face us. If so, they are at odds with the nation's founders.

Freedom requires religion, just as religion requires freedom. Freedom opens the windows of the soul so that man can discover his most profound beliefs and commune with God. Freedom and religion endure together, or perish alone.

Mitt Romney, CNN 47 Comments [12/6/2007 7:12:04 PM]
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Quote# 32061

I definitely believe that demons can read our minds. Think about it.....they know which buttons to push, they know our weaknesses and frailties in order to tempt us in just the right areas, they know our doubts, fears and insecurities and play on them accordingly, and they know which painful memories to bring up with which to torment us over and over......how could they possibly do all that without reading our minds?

On a side note, that's another reason why God isn't going to tell any of us the date of the Rapture, no matter how 'trustworthy' we are.....because if we know, then they will know, too.


Sydney Spider, Rapture Ready 26 Comments [12/6/2007 7:10:07 PM]
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Quote# 32040

Only the weak 'fall in love'.


Abu_Mohammad_21, Ummah.com 62 Comments [12/6/2007 7:03:39 PM]
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Quote# 32055

What's 30 years in the evolutionary scheme of things? After all, Darwin had very serious objections and problems with his own theory that have never been resolved. And that was over a century ago - still a drop in the bucket.

Hey, let's do a Darwinian test. If Darwin was right and evolution is true, then

bang, You're dead.

And your ideas are dead with you.

It's the darwinian way - Evolution says might makes right and attrition is by tooth and claw, not by intellect.

So now that you're dying on the floor of a bullet wound, any final thoughts before you go into the ground like all the other animals?

lightwave, CARM 48 Comments [12/6/2007 6:58:04 PM]
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Quote# 32041

there is no such thing as a black African


sis_niqabi, Ummah.com 56 Comments [12/6/2007 6:20:54 PM]
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Quote# 32045

Yoda tells Luke in Return of the Jedi. 'Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny.' Although this statement does have similarities with Jesus' teachings, it also contains elements of other religions: Taoism, Islam and Judaism. In fact, the idea of identifying God as a 'force of nature', is pantheistic and dualistic. both of which are against God's teachings... Any practice that does not have glorifying God as its root, but glorifies Satan or other gods, is occult. Yoda does not talk about following Jesus Christ. Instead, he urges Luke to rely on himself and use the power inherent to his mind to do 'good'. This is a contradiction to God's teachings...He is taught to handle situations on his own, not needing God's assistance.

Phil Phillips, Pagan Protection Center 38 Comments [12/6/2007 5:54:08 PM]
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Quote# 32048

SANTA - SANAT - SATAN?
Sanat Kumara is worshipped by some new age groups as God. H.P. Blavatsky, the mother of the new age movement, said on page 350 of her book, The Secret Doctrine, Vol. 2: "The name isn't important. It is the letters". "Santa" has the same letters as "Satan"! According to G.A. Riplinger, "Ole Nick" is listed as the name of a fallen angel in the Dictionary of Fallen Angels. (New Age Bible Versions, Gail Riplinger, pg. 53)

Friend, don't glorify Satan by giving the glory and attributes of Jesus Christ to Santa Claus! Santa is a COUNTERFEIT GOD, and you are honoring Satan when you teach your children to believe in Santa! Christians should teach their children the TRUTH. We should glorify God by teaching our children about Jesus Christ and His saving grace!

James L. Melton, BibleBelievers.com 75 Comments [12/6/2007 5:45:01 PM]
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Quote# 32047

Why don't you wear pants? We decided that pants were not appropriate for the women in the family.
Deuteronomy 22:5 states the Lord's opinion on women who wear men's clothing. I do not want to do anything that is an abomination to the Lord. Notice that throughout the Bible the Lord prescribes different but complimentary roles for men and women, provider/helpmeet, husband/wife. father/mother. God clearly wants there to be a difference between men and women. Pants only became acceptable 30 to 40 years ago as the feminists urged women to act like men. Pants, no matter how loose, still show the female figure much more than a loose skirt or dress. The Lord really opened my eyes when I noticed the women I was standing or walking behind when I was out in public.

Susan Theall, Divided by Truth 43 Comments [12/6/2007 5:03:06 PM]
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Quote# 32042

My little sister, who is 7 years old absolutely loves music. When I tell her that it's not good to listen to music, she says "but I liiike it". How do get a child to HATE music?

[Check out the thread for answers]

Asmara, Ummah.com 99 Comments [12/6/2007 4:58:13 PM]
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Quote# 32043

Teach her strict obedience. Other chapters stress the fact that obedience is the most necessary ingredient to be required from the child. This is especially true in the life of a girl, for she must be obedient all of her life. The boy who is obedient to his mother and father will someday become the head of the home; not so for the girl. Whereas the boy is being trained to be a leader, the girl is being trained to be a follower. Hence, obedience is far more important to her, for she must someday transfer it from her parents to her husband.

This means that she should never be allowed to argue at all. She should become submissive and obedient. She must obey immediately, without question, and without argument. The parents who require this have done a big favor for their future son-in-law.

Jack Hyles, Jesus-is-Savior.com 60 Comments [12/6/2007 4:56:26 PM]
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Quote# 32039

BTW, when it comes to the "Merry Christmas" thing .... I don't even want non-believers saying it because they don't recognize Christ as the savior anyway. It sorta kinda comes close to taking the Lord's name in vain ... not quite though as I don't want to put too much importance on a word like "Christmas".

Issachar, Rapture Ready 45 Comments [12/6/2007 3:22:16 PM]
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Submitted By: Zoe

Quote# 32037

[Frankly, I don't see how morals or purpose derived from the decision of someone else (e.g. God) are less arbitrary than self-imposed morals or purpose.]

Atheists don't have morals, per se; they have ethics. Morals deal with mans' relationship to God, and is vertical; whereas ethics deals with mans' relationship to man, and is horizontal.

AV1611VET, Christianforums.com 44 Comments [12/6/2007 2:59:16 PM]
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Quote# 32035

Walmart has a new TV ad, and I don't know what to think of it. Now, Walmart is one of my favorite stores and I think they normally have a wholesome imagine, even if not Godly (like saying happy holidays instead of the proper season's greeting).

But now I see their "holiday" slide is going even further. Their new commercial has kids begging for toys from their parents, which some might find cute (personally, it seems a little too much like chasing worldy objects instead of glorifying God) - but at the end, they have two demons-like creatures talking to the kids! They look like little imps and I just don't know what to think. I'd like to think maybe its just bad artwork, but they look kind of demonic in nature. The worst is that this is targetted at kids.

Has Walmart gone over to the "dark side", or am I looking into this too much?


Freed_From_Sin, Rapture Ready 48 Comments [12/6/2007 1:42:22 PM]
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Quote# 32023

What evidence are you referring to. Because if you show me clear cut evidence of evolution, I might consider thinking my great great grandparents were part ape. Which evidence was that again? I have never seen any evidence to convince me that evolution actually occurs. Bummer, I guess I can just hope for a greater outcome in life than you can.

bill, wiredscience (blog.eired.com/wiredscience) 26 Comments [12/6/2007 12:47:05 PM]
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Quote# 32036

What really gets my goat, is that America EVER let this become an issue. The first time a homosexual tried to claim this perversion is "normal" they should have been laughed out of town!

They want to be able to marry now,so they can play house and pretend that something so "abnormal" is actually normal, how crazy is that? ROTFL!

Scripture describes it perfectly,besides being described as an abomination,and vile.

soblessed53, Christianforums.com 30 Comments [12/6/2007 12:44:11 PM]
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Quote# 32030

ATHEISM IS ANTISEMITISM

GOOD MORNING CLASS: Today I'm going to present to you some facts you have never heard, but which no one can dispute the principles thereof.

One astonishing fact about atheism is that whatever negative sentiments and statements it makes against Christianity are always true about itself instead.

There are several atheists who have tried to have me censured on the false accusation that I advocate antiSemitism. The truth is, atheists are the ones who advocate antiSemitism. But they are so blind they don't realize it.

For example: It is the atheists who deny the truth or veracity of the Bible. They say it is full of contradictions and none of it should be believed. That false claim turns out to be antiSemitism to the core, because the history of the Jews of old is corroborated in the Bible. To deny the truthfulness of the Bible is to deny the history of the Jews.

Atheists deny the existence of God, but the history of the Jews prove that no person or group of people established the nation of Israel of old. It was established by the Almighty God and Him alone. To deny the existence of God is to deny the makings of the nation of Israel of old.

The ethnicity of the Jews is living visible proof of the truthfulness of the Bible. To say that the Bible isn't true is equivalent to denying the historical veracity of the holocaust. It is like joining the most radical Palestinian in saying Israel's existence should not be recognized because the Bible isn't true and shouldn't be believed.

Since atheism is hostile to God and rejects His existence and the veracity of the Bible upon which the history of the Jews of old is corroborated, atheism is hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as an ethnic group and as a people who once were in covenant relationship with God.

The astonishing thing about these facts is that there have been and are people who call themselves "jews" who also are atheists. Sheesh!

Robert T Lee, Ten Commandments 44 Comments [12/6/2007 11:40:45 AM]
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Submitted By: Scion

Quote# 32026

Angela84

Australia's biggest threat from freedom of religion is from the fundamentalist humanist who insist their wonky philosophies are based on science. Somehow they loathe the freedoms established in our nation through biblical principles and champion earth worshiping policies that include murdering the unborn. They often champion pagan religion that leads to all sorts of dysfunction in a society and label anyone who oppose them as bigots. They seem to be over represented by the homosexual lobby which is not surprising considering their philosophies which really come from paganism
Posted by runner, Friday, 23 November 2007 2:00:06 PM


runner, online opinion 32 Comments [12/6/2007 10:46:57 AM]
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Quote# 32027

Is there an Islamic man wiling to give a woman her rights after seeing what has happened in the West?
Nah..only Christian men are benevolent enough to change abuse against women and then have those same women turn against them when they are given power. In our world, the femi-nazi movement will be declared obsolete by other women, then and only then will life become better for women in the ME.


Earthdweller, Free Republic 27 Comments [12/6/2007 9:53:49 AM]
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Quote# 32029

A CHALLENGE TO THE MOST EDUCATED AND CAPABLE ATHEISTS

In the above article, I have proved that atheism did not have an earthly and human origin, but had its origin from satan before this state of time. Out of all the responses I have received from atheists, not one has been able to intelligently and credibly dispute that fact. They are confounded that they cannot come up with a human author and earthly time of existence for their atheism. They are quick to erroneously claim that the TEN COMMANDMENTS were authored by a human, and some of them claim that Moses authored them, but they cannot name an earthly author and time of origin for their own philosophy.

Why are atheists so quick to try to attach a human to the TEN COMMANDMENTS when they cannot do so to their own philosophy? If Satan is not atheism's author and atheists cannot pinpoint a human author, perhaps their atheism came into being by a cataclysmic explosion. LOL! Or perhaps atheism brought itself into existence by its own prior nonexistence. LOL!

So I have two bold challenges for atheists: If satan is not the author of atheism, I hereby challenge the most educated and capable of them to prove that satan is not its author and prove that it had an earthly origin. I also challenge atheists to prove that the TEN COMMANDMENTS were authored by a human. Before you try the latter impossibility, read my article titled: "God is the Author of the TEN COMMANDMENTS".

Robert T Lee, Ten Commandments 65 Comments [12/6/2007 9:53:40 AM]
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Submitted By: Scion