Quote# 30382


The mountains of scientific evidence supporting Noah's Flood are getting pretty high. Some folks are of the mind to wait until science completely proves something before believing anything in the Holy Bible. I'll do the opposite and believe every word of the Holy Bible, regardless of what scientists say.




blackeyedpeas, ChristiansUnite 42 Comments [10/24/2007 1:47:19 PM]
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Quote# 30385


The NASA scientists have not explained why plants are green; they have
simply observed a system that works. The fact that there is plenty of blue and
red light available as an energy source does not explain how the highly complex
and precisely shaped molecules that capture the light came into being. The most
rational explanation for any system that works well is that a rational mind
outside the system designed each component to work with the others. The God who
made light on the first creation day designed and made the plants to use "best
light there is".

Pastor Roger, ChristiansUnite 44 Comments [10/24/2007 1:40:45 PM]
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Quote# 30379

[I could reverse that question, why is the norm rejected by Christians?

I am not raging against your God, heck I don't even believe in him. And I am doing better after giving up my belief in him. Same morals as before, no gult, and more thought into my actions.

Heck, everyone could do with more thought into their actions, not just me.]

I don't believe a word you just said, Paulos. If you truly do not believe in God at all, you'd be anywhere but here. You'd be committing crimes and running wild in the street. You're not. You're here fighting with me. Why?

You still know deep down inside that He is there. All the blathering and puffing out your chest means nothing. You know He is there and you are raging.

Stop the raging and start the Praising!

SOLI DEO GLORIA.

ShieldOFaith, foru.ms 44 Comments [10/24/2007 8:39:16 AM]
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Quote# 30362

The reason? sex. the teaching of evolution is about sex, for sex.

older people want to seduce younger people into sex, but the younger people live in a society of Christian or other religious rules and values that say promiscuity, adultery or out of wedlock sexual relations are forbidden.

So the older people made up this idea that God and all that religion stuff isnt real, its taken many decades to get the story as slick as it is in 2007, but as we can see the progressive left has managed to outlaw the bible from public school and has worked tirelessly to get murder legalized, Roe v Wade which is there to help rapists and the grey market body parts industries that sell the aborted fetuses, the industry allowed to be legal because of Roe v Wade.

So evolution to tell younger people not to listen to God, not to obey any rules about chastity so the chance of a good marriage is harmed;

then after the rape by atheists/evolutionists on the younger people, they have legalized abortion, which is the murder of an unborn human to cover up the rape and help the abortion chop shops that drool and pay cash for the new body parts after the abortion, which itself is a human sacrafice satanic ritual.

BradleyTS, Military.com Forums 42 Comments [10/24/2007 7:27:38 AM]
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Quote# 30361

If satan does not have a physical body, and cannot operate within the mind, what power does he have? As I see it, that is the only way they have power at all. Teaching people with open minds all kinds of doctrine of demons.

I believe satan and the demons are handicapped by their inability to see the future. As we know the ability to predict the future is God's alone. That is how God can work all things together for good, despite Satan working hard to mess things up. Take the holocaust for example. Was the hatred of Jews influenced by satan? Absolutely. It was satan trying to throw a wrench into God's plan, by trying to eliminate the Jews. However, as we saw, God used it for good.


Crusader, Rapture Ready 33 Comments [10/24/2007 6:31:12 AM]
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Quote# 30356

Genesis writers knew nothing of evolution because it didn't happen. Dinosaurs existed, but it was before man's time and not necessary to know about in God's economy. We are inquisitive enough to have discovered the extinct creation, which has served us well in our search for knowledge, and the development of our scientific bent.

The bible cannot be trumped. All science does is verify it, and changes from minute to minute. God's Word remains fixed and true.

FolatingAxe, foru.ms 28 Comments [10/24/2007 6:28:33 AM]
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Quote# 30360

I can't understand how libertarian Ron Paul can gain so much traction among conservative and Christians. If I understand libertarianism correctly, Ron Paul's politics will allow me and my family to freely worship and go to church, while it will also allow the pornographers the right to create the porn to corrupt my son, so that he may get so jacked-up on the porn that he's not even able to listen to me or his youth pastor. Then, my son, being porn-primed, will go out and impregnate his girlfriend, who will then sell her soul and her baby's life away by becoming easy pickings for the abortuary down the street from her house that was allowed to stay open to perform murders-for-hire. All this because all ideas and voices have merit and promise under Ron Paul's libertarianism.

Mark Nesta, World Net Daily 60 Comments [10/24/2007 2:26:05 AM]
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Quote# 30358

[...if something isn't in the bible, does that make it untrue?]

Of course not. There are many things the Bible makes no mention of that are true. You will search the Bible in vain to find what the square root of 7 is, but 7 has a square root.

If, however, something contradicts the Bible then it is not true.

wnwall, Foru.ms 34 Comments [10/24/2007 12:42:32 AM]
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Quote# 30352

(john crawford wants to give H. erectus bones a proper burial)

Me? Destroy evidence? I have never advocated destroying any evidence. If you are referring to some old Homo erectus fossils, they're not evidence of anything other than some poor soul's demise which should be given a proper and decent burial even if the bones are cremated.

john crawford, foru.ms 20 Comments [10/24/2007 12:17:44 AM]
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Quote# 30354

[My wife happens to be Arabic and they derive their history from Ishmael, son of Abraham. Of course your response will be that I am making this up as well. Do you tell that to anyone who says something you don't want to hear?]

Why do you assume what my response will be, and that I don't want to hear about your wife's descent from Abraham? I just asked the other poster how he knew that his wife was also descended from Abraham.

I'm very happy to hear from anyone whose family members are also ancestrally related to the ancestors of Jesus Christ and his disciples.

As far as I can tell, the only way we can know for sure that we are ancestrally descended from, and biologically related to, your wife's Arabic ancestors is by assuming that traditionally accepted written accounts of Arabic and Semitic history are true. If we accept the ancestral fact that Arabs and Jews are descended from Abraham, then we must also accept the historical fact that 175 year old Abraham was descended from 950 year old Noah, and that Noah's written account of the flood is historical data.

Otherwise, everything mankind believes, says or writes about human nature and natural history may be regarded as mythological.


john crawford, foru.ms 24 Comments [10/24/2007 12:07:34 AM]
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Quote# 30353

Old Man Noah, the Neanderthal didn't need to interbreed with Modern Man because Modern Man is only what Noah's Neanderthal descendents started to look like after first becoming Heidelberg Man due to a decreasing life span during and after the Ice Age.

Try to think out of the usual evolutionist time warp and their classification mentality of our human ancestors as different and separate 'species.'

john crawford, foru.ms 14 Comments [10/24/2007 12:01:14 AM]
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Quote# 30355

Since both models of human evolution out of Africa hold that only African people SPECIFICALLY ORIGINATED from non-human ape-like progenitors, both models are racist.

john crawford, foru.ms 31 Comments [10/23/2007 11:31:49 PM]
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Quote# 30351

(Noah was a Neanderthal, apparently)

[ Status quo theorizes that all humans descended from hominids who happened to live in Africa. You claim that only Africans descended from these hominds and that whites descended from European Neanderthals.]

I don't even use the word "hominid" when referring to people.

[But weren't you recently decrying the theory that all humans emerged from African hominids as "racist"?]

Yes. It is racist to call African people hominids.

[ And now you yourself are supporting a theory which gives all humans as descending from Mediterranean Neanderthals. Doesn't that make you racist as well?]

How? Neanderthals were real people who descended from Noah. They certainly weren't African hominids who shared a common ancestry with African monkeys and apes like neo-Darwinist race theorists would say of their ancestors.

john crawford, foru.ms 21 Comments [10/23/2007 11:30:31 PM]
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Quote# 30350

Nature does not interpret God --- God interprets nature.

That's why I say "science" is circular logic --- you have nature interpreting nature

AV1611VET, Foru.ms 19 Comments [10/23/2007 9:37:24 PM]
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Quote# 30341

So when reptiles started developing lumps in thier sides (I'm assuming that's how wings started?) They were functional and could be used for gliding? You have jumped a little ahead. Don't evolutionists say it themselves, it took millions of years. That means it has to start out
like a bud, and progress until it looked like penguin wings and finally become proper wings?? But a useless bud would have been discarded! Don't try and confuse me--I'm not that dumb.


Pure Christian, talk.origins 45 Comments [10/23/2007 6:52:00 PM]
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Submitted By: Tiny Bulcher

Quote# 30347

[Posted by Floatingaxe]
"The bible is both inerrant and literally true. I'm not selective, I know God. I'm not the one with questions, doubts and agendas."

[Later Posted by Floatingaxe]
"No I haven't ever said it, because I know that there are some portions that aren't literally true. There are analogies and metaphorical passages that aren't literal. There is poetry also, that we cannot take literally. The bible is a library with all types of books in it."

Floatingaxe, foru.ms 21 Comments [10/23/2007 6:42:25 PM]
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Submitted By: John

Quote# 30346

The Harry Potter series has done more to spur an interest into Witchcraft into yourg people, more than "rock music, Video games, comic books, cartoons, or any evil device" combined. Usually the most dangerous product, is the one that destroys a generation while making us feel as if it is harmless.

JK Rowling uses Neumerology to enhance the witchcraft of her release dates, and she makes other devices that are connected to witchcraft. She is writing from her own experiences, and the practice of true witchcraft in her writing has made her rich and famous.

But to those who are undiscerning, the smooth good feelings that you get from endulging in her fantasy work is nothing more than spirits enticing you further into giving satan your children all in the pretense of having a little fun. Nothing is as it appears when you are dealing with matters such as this. Enjoy it while you can, because judgment is just around the corner. Maybe then, you will be shaken from your stupor.

whiterider, Foru.ms 36 Comments [10/23/2007 6:40:13 PM]
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Submitted By: NonProphet

Quote# 30345

I just saw this in my law class. NAMBLA is one example mentioned already. If we allow homosexual stuff, soon we'll allow pedophilia and other absurd things. The line must be drawn at an human male with any human female.


Sel Appa, NationStates Forum 36 Comments [10/23/2007 6:40:11 PM]
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Quote# 30338

How old is the world?

Most people would say: "Nobody knows."

But the author of the book frequently described as the greatest history book ever written, said the world was created Oct. 23, 4004 B.C. – making it exactly 6,009 last Monday.

In the 1650s, an Anglican bishop named James Ussher published his "Annals of the World," subtitled, "The Origin of Time, and Continued to the Beginning of the Emperor Vespasian's Reign and the Total Destruction and Abolition of the Temple and Commonwealth of the Jews." First published in Latin, it consisted of more than 1,600 pages.

The book, now published in English for the first time, is a favorite of homeschoolers and those who take ancient history seriously. It's the history of the world from the Garden of Eden to the fall of Jerusalem in AD 70.



James Ussher, World Net Daily 56 Comments [10/23/2007 12:06:05 PM]
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Submitted By: Damned at Random

Quote# 30339

The country of America will be littered with leaflets from the sky, with readings like this; "You have from eight (8) to ten (10) days to return unto your own. The time of this world is at hand." The leaflets will be written in both English and Arabic, so God (Allah) taught me. After the warning from the sky will follow total destruction by the intense heat of fire.

And you such people who love America, where lying, drinking, bambling, raping, lynching, burning, stealing, robbing, disrespect of person and persons, nail painting, face painting, swine eating, public nude resorts, nude colonies, nudie newspapers and magazines, nude church-goers, and profane language, will serve as fuel for the fire. For I declare by Him Who made the Sun, Moon and Stars and the Habitable Earth for His home. By Whom everything was Created and HImself not Created, from infinite eternity, All is is His name and He will destroy every Christian from the face of the Earth in the near future.

The Honorable Elijah Muhammad, The Nation Of Islam 72 Comments [10/23/2007 11:24:50 AM]
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Quote# 30337

History does show that Nazism is one version of sodomy...



(the rest is fundie gold, too, but this one stuck out for sheer WTF-ness)

alan stang, newswithviews.com 69 Comments [10/23/2007 10:18:45 AM]
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Submitted By: spinetingler

Quote# 30334

[Response to a user who posted the biblical passage of Deuteronomy 22:23-29 (the passage which commands a rape victim to marry her rapist)]

Morning, this is beautiful and holy. It is the Word of God.

He is taking care of this women who would now be soiled and never get a husband. See? Beautiful and holy.

Keep em coming! The Word of God is righteous and lovely.

SOLI DEO GLORIA.

ShieldOFaith, Foru.ms 86 Comments [10/23/2007 9:30:50 AM]
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Quote# 30330

[by Johnny Slick
What about slaughtering every man, woman, and child in a city because the city itself sits on a spot where God wants you to put your own city? I don't care how many "witnesses" you have for something like that; if that's God's will I don't see how one can call him omnibenevolent with any realistic usage of that term. ]

Those would certainly be considered war crimes by today's standards, but you do have to keep in mind the historical and political backdrop. Those cities which were completely demolished were those in which archeological evidence has uncovered a miriad of horrific crimes against humanity, including human trafficking, ritualistic child rape, and excruciating infant sacrifice on the molton arms of the god Molech. The "other gods" of the Old Testament that were forbidden to the Israelites were not gentle deities of peace, and their worshippers were compariable to the Aztecs in their life and practice.

Those were the days of revenge, as well. Look at the story of Esther. Haman, the man who basically tried to euthanize the Jews, was the descendant of a nation God had instructed Israel to completely destroy. They didn't, and it almost meant their own annihilation.

Some cities the Israelites were instructed to completley burn, as well, jewels, gold, linens and all, which makes you wonder about the possibility of diseases and plagues.

Ancient Israel would not have been a place I would like to live in comparison with today's world, but with its obligatory release of slaves, cleanliness laws, and forbidding of human sacrifice for ritual or sport, it was a heck of a lot nicer than most ancient societies.

Little Pink Pill, Snopes.com 33 Comments [10/23/2007 6:33:39 AM]
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Submitted By: Adrian

Quote# 30326

[On Dumbledore being revealed as gay.]

I suppose Rowling thought she knew best, and since it is often impossible to teach an old dog new tricks, why not work on their children. What's that term for people who think they know what's best for others, who are controlling, and seek to impose their ideas on others either overtly through force or by more subtle manipulation and subversion? Oh Yeah: fascist.

dvdmsr, RedState.com 39 Comments [10/23/2007 5:45:03 AM]
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Submitted By: DCN

Quote# 30320

The bible is both inerrant and literally true. I'm not selective, I know God. I'm not the one with questions, doubts and agendas.

Floatingaxe, foru.ms 49 Comments [10/23/2007 12:31:49 AM]
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