Quote# 30121

Well, this atheism is even more subtle. Jesus made it very clear that children have a built-in faith. He said "they that believe in him." He just took it for granted. You have to teach children atheism, and that`s the harm.

Tim LaHaye, CNN.com 51 Comments [10/17/2007 12:29:31 PM]
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Quote# 30116

Heres somethin i found while studying the bible one night. I took the important numbers 1, 3, 7, 10, and 12. I then used the coresponding letter from the alphabet.
Which arranged is L, G, A, J, C.
Lord God Almighty Jesus Christ.
The numbers also equal 33. The supposed age of Christ at the ressurection and the number of years King David reigned over Israel. Thought it was interesting.

stik, Sherdog.Net 71 Comments [10/17/2007 12:27:55 PM]
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Submitted By: xenu

Quote# 30119

You don't need to be an expert in apologetics. Instead, you'll learn the forgotten biblical principle of bypassing the intellect (the place of argument) and speaking directly to the conscience (the place of the knowledge of right and wrong) — the way Jesus did.

Way of the Master, Way of the Master 44 Comments [10/17/2007 8:00:14 AM]
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Quote# 30120

[Re: an Adult Swim cartoon called Lucy, the Daughter of the Devil]

I had posted about this cartoon a couple weeks ago. The topic was shut down because I was told I was "giving place to the devil". It really hurt my feelings. I feel it's important to warn other Christians about these things. My teenage son had just turned it to this channel and I was had just came in the room. An advertisement for this cartoon came on. My son, who is very sensitive to things like that, wouldn't be alone in a room the rest of the night. I had already blocked Logo, Bravo, and the Music Channels. I had never really thought about blocking a cartoon channel. I have now! I homeschool my kids. I love it! The only thing that worries me is that my children have a sort of innocence because they're not around a lot of this junk at school. When they get out on their own they're going to be bombarded with all these worldly things.


pumkin67, Rapture Ready 56 Comments [10/17/2007 6:48:23 AM]
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Quote# 30117

["I don't think Jesus would condone the mass extinction of gays... They are supposed to be God's children after all"]

YES HE WOULD...HE DID IT TWICE...
-REMEMBER SODOM AND GAMORRAH - ALL DEAD ONE FAMILY SAVED
-REMEMBER NOAH - ALL DEAD 8 SAVED.
GOD HAS NO PROBLEM WITH KILLIN YOU FAGGOTS
RLMAO

Patti173, AOL News 60 Comments [10/17/2007 4:59:20 AM]
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Quote# 30113

The Lord Yhovah of the Old Testament, who became the Lord Jesus of the New Testament, is described as flying in thick clouds, swift clouds, bright clouds, dark clouds, white clouds, low clouds, great clouds, and fiery clouds. There are platforms, vessels, whirling chariots of fire, sky thrones, fiery horses, cherubims, thick darkness, great fire, whirlwinds, fiery wheels, pavilions, dark waters, storms, sky dwellings, rolls, and sanctuaries. Whether, or not, one believes these objects are actually flying vehicles that the God of the Bible lives in, appears with, travels in, and is considered the seat of his power is a matter of opinion. The fact that they do not appear without him or his ambassadors, and that, in most major appearances, he and other beings are clearly described as directly associated with these flying objects, is undeniable.

The fact that the objects described in the Bible are controlled, flying craft, is borne out by the flight characteristics of those objects. In Bible text the objects associated with the Elohiym are shown to exhibit rapid, prolonged flight, they ascend and descend, and they hover for extended periods. If these objects were just ethereal images created by ethereal beings, these flight descriptions would have no relevance. The fact that the authors wrote about the flight routine of these objects is evidence that they have a distinct physical presence.

Unknown author, The Bible UFO Connection 31 Comments [10/16/2007 10:42:18 PM]
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Quote# 30111

According to this book, the author is a lezbo. Did Anne Frank even exist? I don't think so. Why so much tribute is given to this book boggles my imagination. It's not great literature. Its story is likely bogus. The content is meaningless ramblings. So, why celebrate it? To keep the holocaust myth going.

GangstaLawya, Amazon.com 65 Comments [10/16/2007 10:38:08 PM]
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Quote# 30110

* MY LITTLE PONY
Everyone loves horses, but these are not your everyday horses. These horses can levitate, or fly through the air. Most people do not realize when they see someone or something flying through the air that this phenomenon is pure Satanism. Further, many of these horses are Unicorns. In fact, this TV cartoon so popularized Unicorns that we see them today in jewelry, clothing, paintings, and figurines. Many Christian families even own Unicorn representations in their homes. Do you realize the Unicorn has been occultic for thousands of years, and is represented in current New Age literature as being representative of the violent way in which the New World Order will be finally brought into existence? Occultic folklore has traditionally pictured the Unicorn as the destroyer of the old system, a necessary prerequisite for the New System to be established.

Did you know God utilized a Unicorn-type animal in His prophecy in Daniel 8:4-5, in depicting the final days' Anti-Christ? Do not be deceived: the Unicorn is not the sweet, gentle, and loving animal which is portrayed. Your children are being manipulated into believing a lie, and setting them up to accept the Anti-Christ when he arises.

David Bay, Cutting Edge.org 94 Comments [10/16/2007 10:00:27 PM]
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Quote# 30104

America is gonna get it big time... Can you say BABYLON?

The church is pandering to the filth. You can't even find a virgin in youth group these days. Someday a real rain will come and wash all this scum off the streets.


maelstrom, foru.ms 51 Comments [10/16/2007 9:55:54 PM]
Fundie Index: 5

Quote# 30114

Many women have brushed aside criticism of their short dresses by blaming everything on the dirty old men with their evil thoughts. But is that the basic fault? Some months ago I received a telephone call while holding an evangelistic series in the state of Texas. A barber who listened to my daily radio program wanted a personal interview in my motel room. Being a Catholic he did not feel free to attend the public service, but he indicated on the phone that he desperately needed some spiritual counsel.

This man turned out to be a wonderful Christian gentleman. He spoke of his great desire to be saved and to live a godly life. Then he confided the problem. Mini-skirted women came into his barber shop day by day. He prayed and struggled to keep his thoughts pure. With tears in his eyes he asked me, "Is God going to destroy me because I cannot always keep my thoughts clean and holy? Please tell me what to do. I want to be saved and I want to keep my mind upon God, but how can I do it with these half-dressed women before my eyes?"

Unknown author, Christian Resource Centre Bermuda 39 Comments [10/16/2007 9:55:43 PM]
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Quote# 30109

I believe Christianity is the default world religion and there should be no move to remove it from classrooms or from public life since such moves prove highly damaging to society if nothing else.

scarlets79, CARM 32 Comments [10/16/2007 7:41:36 PM]
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Submitted By: Promethean

Quote# 30102

Mathew Shepherd was killed while trying to turn tricks (offering drugs for sex). He left with two men to have sex with them.

Sure, it was wrong he was murdered because he gropped that guy, but can't you all find a more worthy poster child ?

Bafriend, Foru.ms 37 Comments [10/16/2007 5:35:24 PM]
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Submitted By: EnemyPartyII

Quote# 30101

[In other words, god could have created the world in such a way that when "sin" was introduced into the world, only 0.1% of recognized pregnancies would end in miscarriage, but he knowingly and purposefully decided to have about 20% of recognized pregnancies end in miscarriage.]


No He did not.

While it is true that a counsel was held prior to Creation, it is not documented that miscarriages were discussed.

Sin was discussed, and the Second Person of the Godhead volunteered to be the savior of mankind.

AV1611VET, foru.ms 45 Comments [10/16/2007 3:46:35 PM]
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Quote# 30093

HELLO? Just why isnt it my contitutional right to have a bible in every hotel room in America? It certainly is. And its (sadly), the muslims right to have the koran if they want. and agian sadly, the satan worshippers to have the same. you see, because we are a nation founded primarily (but you wont find this in our modern day american history books) due to reasons of fredom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion.

ArriveAlive, Cross+Flame 53 Comments [10/16/2007 3:04:44 PM]
Fundie Index: 1

Quote# 30094

When God created Adam and Eve, they were fully developed human beings, capable of communication, society, and development (Genesis 2:19-25; 3:1-20; 4:1-12). It is almost entertaining the lengths evolutionary scientists go to prove the existence of prehistoric cavemen. They find a misshaped tooth in a cave and from that create a misshapen human being who lived in a cave and hunched over like an ape. There is no way that scientist can prove the existence of cavemen by a fossil. Evolutionary scientists simply have a theory and then they force the evidence to fit the theory. Adam and Eve were the first human beings ever created and were fully-evolved, intelligent, and upright.


gotquestions.org, gotquestions.org 30 Comments [10/16/2007 2:54:37 PM]
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Quote# 30099

[A supposedly secular fundie ... you be the judge.]

I do not believe in the concept of "sin" and "God", but I strongly believe that homosexuality is against the laws of nature, and against societal norms...and is therefor immoral according to the dictionary definition of the word immoral.

The thing that erks me the most is that homosexuals will give the "it's genetic" argument, when in fact there is no hard proof that DNA is responsible for homosexual behavior. You know you're gay when you're little? Please. Your endocrine system isn't even developed at the times some people claim to have known when they were gay. It is a psychological abnormality stemmed from one of two things (or both):

1. Sexual abuse of the child in question, or abuse of the parent of the same sex by the parent/partner of the opposite sex, giving subconcious negative feelings toward the opposite sex...and/or...

2. A purely lust-filled narcissistic obsession with one's own gender role and appearance.


It also makes no sense to parade around for "rights". This is America. They are in possession of all rights other people have by birth in this country. They don't want rights. They want special treatment.

Jesaja, Yahoo! Answers 47 Comments [10/16/2007 2:45:01 PM]
Fundie Index: 4

Quote# 30097

Evolution contradicts God in that evolution 1) denies that man was made in the image and likeness of God, thereby nullifying the theory/belief that man has a soul. 2) denies that God made them "male and female", because evolution requires that God did not make them male and female, but rather that he started out with asexual creatures and evolved them.

Evolution is antichrist.

walloffire, foru.ms 22 Comments [10/16/2007 2:44:50 PM]
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Quote# 30091

Anyways, most of you that know me know my view on abortion

But is it unconstitutional?

It is.


Do you remember the three basic things that we, as a citizen, are guaranteed? LIFE, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.


By using abortion, we are, in fact, denying fetuses (I'd rather refer to them as babies) a basic right that they are guaranteed.


So, in fact, abortion is you saying, "Screw the constitution! I don't want this baby to have a basic right!"


Discuss, and don't say, "It's not life, it just has the potential for life!", because you are taking away a right of it any way you cut it.

Seth_X_of_Fortree , Serebiiforums.com 57 Comments [10/16/2007 10:09:52 AM]
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Quote# 30077

So we watch him, knowing his propensity to selfish compulsion. When he seizes his bowl with intentions of dumping it, swat the offending hand with a little instrument (light wooden spoon, rubber spatula, flexible tubing less than a quarter inch in diameter, or any instrument that will cause an unpleasant sting without leaving any marks). As you swat the offending hand, say “No” in a normal commanding voice.

mike pearl, no greater joy 41 Comments [10/16/2007 8:47:06 AM]
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Quote# 30081

Abortion is totally and completely out of hand.
The numbers of abortions are immense.

Animals don't do that. This is reasonable?

Ediel, CARM 43 Comments [10/16/2007 8:43:43 AM]
Fundie Index: 7

Quote# 30087

That the song is about the Church of Satan is obvious from both the lyrics and the Hotel California album cover. Consider the following:
• The Eagles were well-known Satan worshippers.
• "The Eagles" can be rearranged to spell "gales (of) heet," meaning the winds of hell.
• An old Christian church in California was abandoned in 1969 and taken over by the Church of Satan. It is this church that is referred to by the lyrics, "We haven't had the spirit here since 1969," and "This could be Heaven, this could be Hell."
• It is in this church that Anton LeVey (referred to as "the master" in the song) wrote The Satanic Bible, and because he let his followers stay there while he was writing, it became known as the Hotel California.
• The lyric, "They stab it with their steely knives, but they just can't kill the Beast," refers to the enduring power of Satan.
• Members of the Church of Satan often have to lie about their membership (just as they are encouraged to lie as a matter of course), and this is referred to in the lyric, "What a nice surprise, bring your alibis."
• Church of Satan members take an oath that is binding even after their death, hence the lyrics, "You can check out at any time you like, but you can never leave" and "We are all just prisoners here of our own device."
• On the Hotel California album jacket, High Priest of the Church of Satan Anton LeVey appears in one of the windows.
• On the back of the album cover a dead man -- sacrificed by LeVey himself -- is shown propped up by a mop.
• The Hotel California album was a best seller, which it couldn't have been without help from the forces of darkness.
Truly, any non-Satanic interpretation is disingenuous at best.

Unknown Author, All Lies 54 Comments [10/16/2007 7:52:38 AM]
Fundie Index: 6

Quote# 30089

[Thread title: Forecast: Sex and Marriage With Robots by 2050]

I can totally see this happening.

Since the "sexual revolution" our society has distorted what sex is by design into the quest for personal gratification. This is why we see so may gays, lesbians, bi sexuals, tri sexuals etc. This is why internet porn is so huge, it is all about personal gratification.

Now add that to this.

Women do not need to rely on men to support them, and men have a harder and harder time finding women who want to be wives in the traditional sense. And when men do get married then they find that it is not what they expected it to be, or something else goes wrong and the man finds himself in divorce court. In divorce court the man loses half of his stuff, has to pay support/alimony etc. just like it was still 1950.

So if sex is all about personal gratification, and marriage is just a huge (often sexless) headache. Then the secular viewpoint will be that you would have to be nuts to get married. So sex robots would be the ideal set up for a man who doesn't truly know what God's plan of marriage is.


The Learner, Rapture Ready 64 Comments [10/16/2007 7:51:39 AM]
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Quote# 30088

What's with all the Ad Homs and avoiding issue. Atheism is A CULT.. filled with a body of fanatic adherents to an "idea." I was just listening to watch?v=lxJB6Bq8xSM and the historian clearly said those Jacobins (Atheists) murdered people who wanted to practice religion, because THEY WERE PART OF THE "CULT OF REASON".. now you tell me what your fellow brethren atheists do, harrassing and bashing Christians... and IF IT WERE LEGAL murdering them like Communists did. Atheism is a cult.

cappadelta, YouTube 33 Comments [10/16/2007 7:50:09 AM]
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Submitted By: Zoe

Quote# 30070



I don't know about you but I didn't evolve from any ape. Man was created by God in His own image. God spoke creation into existence. This is the God I believe in anyway. You have more of a chance at finding a winning lottery ticket on the ground everyday for 10 years than that of the 'Big Bang' theory being true.

BT, Yahoo! Answers 31 Comments [10/16/2007 4:26:22 AM]
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Quote# 30084

The song "Stairway to Heaven" by the group Led Zeppelin is the most popular song in rock history. One line of the song, says, "you know sometimes words have TWO MEANINGS." They should know — the song is drenched in satanic backmasking! One part when played forward, says: "Yes, their are two paths you can go by, but in the long run there's still time to change the road you're on." But when played backwards, you clearly hear: "IT'S MY SWEET SATAN . . . Oh I will sing because I live with Satan." This is the number one song in rock history! Just a coincidence — not hardly!

Terry Watkins, Rock Music: The Devil's Advocate 50 Comments [10/16/2007 2:36:34 AM]
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