Quote# 18429

Sorry to disappoint you but in 21st Century America being a liberal means everything Jesus opposed. An
American liberal is totally in favor of killing babies moments before they are born. An American liberal wants
acceptance and favortism for men who live in sexual perversion with other men. America was founded by a
bunch of men who today would be considered conservatives. They did an incredible job, as led by the hand of
God in giving us the greatest country on earth. Modern American liberals will gut the meaning of our country and
ultimately destroy America if given a chance

Dale L, Jesusisaliberal 31 Comments [12/19/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18430

it is written in the bible that god took a rib from adam and used it to form a eve. why wouldnt it be true? i mean are you suggesting we evolved? where is the proof? its not there.

proverbs3, faceparty 46 Comments [12/19/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: freebird

Quote# 18431

When one of Aus­tralia’s best-known geo­logical landmarks collapsed recently, it sure made a splash—not just in the water, but across the media front pages. This line from a news report was typical: ‘One of the famous Twelve Apostles collapsed yesterday into a heap of rubble, destroying in seconds a landmark nature had taken 20 million years to create.’

A National Parks officer said she was shocked by the collapse. ‘You think these structures are going to last for a while and certainly not actually see one collapse in your lifetime.’

And a tour guide was quoted as saying: ‘It’s pretty unbelievable … it won’t be the same sort of photo any more, but it is evolution.’

Actually, it’s neither unbelievable, nor evolution. The public reaction illustrates how people have been conditioned with geological ideas about ‘millions of years’ that do not match reality. Such sudden collapses of limestone cliffs and columns along Australia’s shoreline occur frequently enough that people shouldn’t be surprised. But conditioned as they are to think of slow-and-gradual processes over long ages, rapid erosion comes as a shock to many.

If only more people ap­prec­i­ated the geological effects of Noah’s Flood, they would be more aware of geological hazards, and not think that the rocks are a permanent feature of the landscape. These eroding ‘Apos­tles’ on Australia’s south coast have a similar message to the original Apostles of Jesus’ time, one concerned with the authority and reliability of God’s Word. This world is young, just as the Bible records.

Tas Walker, AiG 23 Comments [12/19/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18342

Give me an example of more than one version of the Bible. Also, why don't you question the validity of other 'holy' books? If they were, indeed, inspired by God as well, wouldn't they also be in question? Why aren't you asking whether or not the koran is true?

The Cps Annex, NationStates Forum 17 Comments [12/18/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Witty Name Here

Quote# 18344

Did We Come From Unicellular Organisms?

The first time I heard this absurd statement was during the first day of my 9th grade biology class, and I laughed out loud, thinking it was a joke. Sadly, it turns out that many people do believe such a ridiculous notion. They also tend to be the people who think that the universe magically came about from nothing, and life came about from a chemical reaction. How many people on these forums believe that we came from organisms as simple as common bacteria?

["At one point, unicellular organisms were the only form of life in the universe, scientific fact."]

No, it's not a scientific fact any more than the "fact" that the Earth is over a billion years old or that dinosaurs existed.

There were primordial creatures which existed, whose skeletons were found by archaeologists, that we typically consider "dinosaurs." However, they could have lived no more than 6,000 years ago, as that was when the Earth was created by God. They certainly did not inhabit the Earth millions of years ago.

[....]


There are various forms of science which we can safely put our faith in -- these have to do with readily observable phenomena. However, once you claim we randomly evolved from an organism which first existed over a billion years ago, you've got to be pulling all these "facts" out of your ass. No one was alive billions of years ago to know this.

[He goes on like this for a while]

RuleCaucasia, NationStates 28 Comments [12/18/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18345

Evolution is a religion because it is based on ideology, not science. It assumes the non-existence of intelligent design. Evolutionists will readily concede that intelligent design is not falsifiable, so they arbitrarily falsify it not through science, but through belief They proclaim that evoluiton is a fact of nature by eliminating the only competing theory, intelligent design. If they cannot disprove ID, then why do they assume it doesn't exist? The answer is because they're not interested in truth... only in proving themselves correct.

(emphasis original)

Springer, Evolution Fairytale Forum 22 Comments [12/18/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18348

Even the thought of one kiss is too much experience at any age unless you are married, and that thought should be for your husband.

lovely, 123 Christian Forums 29 Comments [12/18/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18349

[Hypocrite much?]

I quickly banned Broan for his profane-laced post. He is a good example of a person whose mind is made up despite the evidence, who knows he's wrong, and instead of arguing evidence resorts to ad homenim attack. [...] Broan was not man enough to admit he was lying (emphasis added)

Fred Williams, Evolution Fairytale Forum 19 Comments [12/18/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18350

Here's the kicker if the evolution scientist thinks 2 + 2 = 7. Seven being millions of years ago, then that scientist is going to work in a biased manner to get his answer and create equations to get it. So he can say after many many many test, (unaccurate ones) I believe yes things are millions of years old. And they believer there hitting the bulleye since all there tests go the same way, even if there throwing darts at the floor and the bullseye is on the wall. Creationist looks at the bible and say hey 2 + 2 = 4. Uses data based on this and comese out to a closer opinion. Lasty, remember if something goes against God and the bible it's an abonination, a false religion. Yes, science can be a false religion if you believe in it without your own study and believe in the scientist with faith. Oh the key word faith that people make fun of Christians for, this is the same for those that believe scientist without there own study.

caseypayne1980, 123 Christian Forums 31 Comments [12/18/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18351

[Don't use their intolerance as an excuse for your own.]

Why not? Is not a level playing field much better? Or do you believe that one side should always dominate, and the other should just shut up and conform?

ikester7579, Evolution Fairytale Forum 20 Comments [12/18/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18352

I've read reports showing the false beliefs of science. "IF" evolution existed we'd still be hairy like apes. For evolution to choose us and not apes is way off. To say well one got to evolutionize and the other stayed hairy. Evolutionist will tell you that the hair stayed on ur head for the sun rays to get blocked. Last time I checked hair was to keep you warm in the winter, not to block sun rays. In that case how come through the generations people getting skin cancer haven't developed into hairy beasts.

caseypayne1980, 123 Christian Forums 30 Comments [12/18/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18353

Atheism is a negative belief system that can retain some coherence and sense of direction and purpose only by parasitically criticizing theistic systems. It is the cancer of thought.

Petr, The Phora 32 Comments [12/18/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18354

[Christians can only seem to throw out the same tired mischaracterizations, no matter how many times they've been corrected.]

Corrected by whom? Omniscient people or fallible human beings? Sorry, believing fallible minds only leads to more fallibility. Only fools seek out fallible minds.

Carico, CARM 32 Comments [12/18/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18356

God created men for his good pleasure and intelligience is one way we are made in his image. Man is the only intelligent creature on Earth. How is it his discipling unruly people can be carried over to women having no control over their sexual appitite.

Reba, Evil Bible 31 Comments [12/18/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18357

I just heard a statistic that atheists comprise only about 1% of the American population. That's because most people know the difference between right and wrong, good and evil, moral and immoral. So since atheists have admitted they don't know the difference bewteen these things, then it's a waste of time for all of us if you come here. No one is gaining anything.

Carico, CARM 50 Comments [12/18/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18358

You sound like the evolutionists. They laugh at the creationists who demand that evolution be subject to empirical tests to determine its validity. They laugh because they cannot prove evolution using empirical experiments and all they can do is laugh. I suspect that you are laughing at Berggy because you have no means to disprove that which he says.

rhutchin, Internet Infidels 23 Comments [12/18/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18361

A truly atheistic worldview would be based on meaningless chaos, not on the order of natural laws.

Petr, The Phora 36 Comments [12/18/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18365

The thing is I see how gay rights movement systematically operates in our culture, where Christians are ending up being persecuted: like in University of Missouri a student almost got expelled because she opposed gay adoption, there are many more cases like that. Now, there is a movement called Soulforce, whose attempt is to influence public opinion that the biblical position on homosexuality that many Christians hold, is an act of hateful violence. I wasn't convinced of that until I went to their website, and humbly shared with them the information about how our Christian brothers and sisters are being discriminated for their beliefs. I wanted to raise awareness, hoping to reach their hearts. Some of them seemed respectful at first, but then started accusing me of being 'antigay.' They even called an organization Alliance Defense Fund, that helped a lot of people defend their 1st Amendment right, as something similar to Nazism. I told them that I thought it was not right to call anybody who stands for justice, as ADF does, as antigay or so forth and I left. Was I being too harsh? But I believe I had to say that.

I'm worried folks, these guys go around the country and talk how oppressed they are and blame conservative Christians for that, attack Christian schools, and compare family advocates like James Dobson and James Kennedy to Hitler's Nazis. God knows, if their rhetoric could influence the government. The question I have is: how do we reach people like that with Christ's love and tell them the truth at the same time?

sammy1980, CARM 38 Comments [12/18/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18368

[As near as I can tell, he's attempting to disprove global warming.]

Okay, I just did an experiment. I have a box of CO2 in my house (the kitchen fire extinguisher), and I also have a box of non CO2 (a jar full of air).

So I put them both in the oven and heated them to 200 degrees. (F).

Holy shit, they both had the same temperature. My candy thermometer reported that they were exactly the same as the oven temp.

So, please refrain from talking about climate change. You to can do this experiment.

Lacadaemon, NationStates Forum 70 Comments [12/18/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18370

"Give up.. I don't give up on anything, specially when it's the truth. You know something Blunt this is the 2nd time I'm telling you that Science is playing catch up. You asked me what my opinion was, I gave it. I read your site, I've seen that site a few times, Do you have any of your own thoughts, or are you gonna cut and paste from other sites? But thank you for the resource at least, that was cool. But it proves nothing invalid about the Science in the Bible. Should I quote links to you as well? No, I perfer to just use the Word of God and have you try and prove the Science wrong in it. I would start by researching the book of Job, so you can kinda get a hint on the date of this book, then maybe you would understand how this book has things that men just could have not known back then.. Because to you it was not until the 1600's that men starting using scientific methods under Francis Bacon."

Atonement, 123 Christian Forums 14 Comments [12/18/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18371

A few findings...

Santa is an annagramme of Satan.
Old Nick is a term used for Lucifer.
Claus is an old English name for hoofed claws.
Clause is another name for Lucas ( lucifer).
HoHoHo is 666 eg.. H ijklmn O six letters between H and O.
He comes in the darkness
Prince of the air ( on his sleigh)
He has helpers .. elves ( fallen angels ) or demons.

Laurian, BBC Religion 67 Comments [12/18/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18372

Scientists have been fooled by false evidence planeted by Satan. As a result Jesus will torture them in hell for all eternity. Its better to be mentally in and end up in heaven, then be burned in hell for thinking too much.

Preys Jesus, Yahoo! Answers 44 Comments [12/18/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 18374

T'was the month before Christmas
When all through our land,
Not a Christian was praying
Nor taking a stand.


See the PC Police had taken away,
The reason for Christmas - no one could say.

The children were told by their schools not to sing,
About Shepherds and Wise Men and Angels and things.
"It might hurt people's feelings," the teachers would say,
"December 25th is just a 'Holiday'."

Yet the shoppers were ready with cash, checks and credit
Pushing folks down to the floor just to get it!
CDs from Madonna, an X BOX, an I-pod
Something was changing, something quite odd!
Retailers promoted Ramadan and Kwanzaa
In hopes to sell books by Franken & Fonda.

As Targets were hanging their trees upside down
And at Lowe's the word Christmas - was no where to be found.
At K-Mart and Staples and Penny's and Sears
You won't hear the word Christmas; it won't touch your ears.

Inclusive, sensitive, Di-ver-si-ty
Are words that were used to intimidate me.
Now Daschle, Now Darden, Now Sharpton, Wolf Blitzen
On Boxer, on Rather, on Kerry, on Clinton!
At the top of the Senate, there arose such a clatter
To eliminate Jesus, in all public matter.

And we spoke not a word, as they took away our faith
Forbidden to speak of salvation and grace.
The true Gift of Christmas was exchanged and discarded
The reason for the season, stopped before it started.

So as you celebrate "Winter Break" under your "Dream Tree"
Sipping your Starbucks, listen to me.
Choose your words carefully, choose what you say
Shout MERRY CHRISTMAS, not Happy Holiday!

Merry CHRISTmas!



Unidentified Wingnut, TechieWife 65 Comments [12/18/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Damned at Random

Quote# 18377

As far as benjamin goes the women were took to be wives. The men did not repeatedly rape them. They took them home and kept them but their is not one mention of abuse, and the israelites as a whole were not cruel people.


Reba, EvilBible 23 Comments [12/18/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: balom

Quote# 18379

You know how many school shootings there have been since the theory of evolution started being taught in school? It's gone crazy! You know how exponentially crime has gone up? When you teach kids that they're nothing but animals, they start to act like animals. Imagine that!

Jonathan Wetsel, facebook 47 Comments [12/18/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Jeremiah Santos