Quote# 4262

LOL, How is loosing your legs and moving way slower evolving? I thought it was BIGGER, BETTER, FASTER, SMARTER............. WHy doesn't current man have a tail? I sure would like to have a tail and be able to grab stuff with it like an extra arm...

TruthTraveler, Christian Forums 22 Comments [9/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 4263

Well, I seriously doubt that Christians are going to start strapping on dynomite and start blowing up Muslim children, and then think that God would think we are wonderful. We aren't exactly the same as them.

Jesus Groupie, Rapture Ready 16 Comments [9/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 4265

[The following series of posts by 'Jesusfreek' is brought to you courtesy of <a href="fstdt_faq.htm#contributors" target="_self">lordpuma</a> who submitted them via email accompanied by the following comment:</font> <font color="#808080">"At first I just figured English was his third or fourth language (as may well be the case), but after reading through all of his post (which takes a bit of effort), I can only hope he was under the influence of something you can't buy at Walgreen's."</font>]

tahs a lot of stuff , but hears what i think , ok get this u konw what makes the big differance is not the ida of evolution its the 2 other idias that go along with it , natural selection and meterilisim

Jesusfreek, FaithForum.org 2 Comments [9/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 4266

on one hand we have natural selection - survivle of the fitest- acording to are firend darwin its how a spicies evolved ( dua ) ok, theis could mean 1 of 2 things ither that is the way God just felt like making it ( part of devine plan ) OR a way of elemating devine desing - witch is just stupid , ( what if anamals just happen to mate with who ever they meet with at the time and then kinda go with the flow and it just so happens the week one died out eaten or some thing )

Jesusfreek, FaithForum.org 12 Comments [9/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 4267

that would mean that life has no meaning ( peapol shoot thems selfes over this ) in sence there is no devine plan there is no reason to live execpt that of we make our selves - witch means everone hear who bother to learn everting taht they have to fight on this forum - hutt hutt hutt were all stupid we made this up we are aruguing about lies we are not justified but a hier being with a greater under standing greater than our own desier become its own reason and its own justifaction ( in such a world i would hope i never had a daughter execpt to sell her)

Jesusfreek, FaithForum.org 14 Comments [9/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 4268

dose evolution involve materislisim well not nessasarly the evolution of the body make no differance ( got taht ) IF the sole is didtunished form the body but if there is no sole or the sole a product form the body there is no esenatial differance taht make us different from apes if we have no soles OR our soles evloved from the smae place ape soles did ( we smaret apes )

Jesusfreek, FaithForum.org 14 Comments [9/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 4269

this is so cause we would have to conclude that there could not have been no God ( persay we dont know witch one ) that our lives would be truly pointles and void and more importanly taht there could be no moral code because there could be no devine hire being than us to make it so our own reasons could become our own justifaciation .

Jesusfreek, FaithForum.org 5 Comments [9/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 4270

dose eveloution and creation con flick ! No it dose not u peapol on the creation side are just as silly as the peapol on the eveloution side ( thow i see my self as a creationist ) ( this is for u athist) now there woulda have to have ben a God to create the universe or the could not have ben a uinverse form the universe to evlove from cause there is was nothing for it to evolve from !!!!!!

Jesusfreek, FaithForum.org 24 Comments [9/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 4271

God may have created orgniack life directly or he may had evolved it from inorganick life but nautral prososes there is nothing sicence or theologey can prove ither way God or nature that can make us absoultly certian same with our bodies God could have evolved it or could ave c reated it directly shurly the human body is a compartivaly samll thing to the universe the sole how ever can not evolve it is imosable no matter how many atoms u line up or how complacted u line them up u cant get awholy new thing caplbel of thingking and caring reason self aware ness ( there is sperit at the momet of conseption that is how cloning works ) awarness of the malerial universe is not one more part of taht universe sicence cant say jack about soles not Jack it snot some thing u can mesusre

Jesusfreek, FaithForum.org 22 Comments [9/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 4272

now we should define eveloution 1st it can simplaly mean what and when more comlex stuf apperd on earth - proff fossial record 2nd it could mean how it happend naurlral selection 3rd ( the one peapol can get confused with ) the apsance of adevine being ( witch i reuled out earlyer ) now u can put idaas 1 and 2 to gearter but u cant stick 3 in also becuse it is not sien tifick NOT SICENTIFICK u cant argue that theogloy with proof like afossal record cause it is theoogical only

Jesusfreek, FaithForum.org 17 Comments [9/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 4273

ther is an apsence of of transianal forms in the record and the sudden apprecrance of a new spicheies and most improtanly there is no evdance ther there is any spicheies that evolved it to a diffent spicies ( we are obously difernt from monkies ) how many birdes do u know turn it to elphants whoah there beaks are diffrent mabe that has soem thing to do with the food they eat they did not cahnge spichies ther are still fichnes.

Jesusfreek, FaithForum.org 31 Comments [9/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 4274

It is not a fallacy to argue that a proposition which is widely held to be true despite lack of definite knowledge is more likely to be true than a proposition which is not as widely held to be true despite lack of definite knowledge. Like betting on the popular horse.

long winded fool, Internet Infidels 11 Comments [9/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 4275

When most people thought that the earth was flat, it was more likely that it was. It actually wasn't, but it was more likely that it was at the time. Any caveman who thought the earth was round wasn't thinking rationally. The fact that he was later proven right is nothing more than a fluke...

long winded fool, Internet Infidels 5 Comments [9/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 4276

He didn't have enough information to come to the correct conclusion, therefore he ought to have concluded the same thing that everyone else concluded. It was the safest bet. And it turned out to be wrong. This is the whole point of Pascal's Wager, if you'll recall. If you're wrong, it's better to be on the safe side.

long winded fool, Internet Infidels 2 Comments [9/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 4277

I think you misunderstand what I am getting at. Is it pessimistic to state what everyone can observe? That men are sinful, and it is man who is a 'failure' not the teaching of Scripture. That all systems of gov't are bound to fail if they depend on men? The purpose of Scripture is not to provide us with a 'foolproof' legal system, it is to show us that we have no hope apart from Jesus.

berniew, Glock Talk Forum 1 Comments [9/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 4278

They talk about how wonderful science is and all that science has done for mankind. But what about the real world... Is it not all a little bit like the wisard of oz... Then you had the yellow brick road, that went to emerald city, where Dorthy could find Mr Science, the Wisdard. Did he have an answer for Dorothy?

JohnR7, Christian Forums 14 Comments [9/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 4279

I am saying point blank that science does not always deliver on all they say they can deliever on. Ask any doctor when they have to tell a parent that their child is going to die and there is nothing they can do about it.

JohnR7, Christian Forums 14 Comments [9/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 4280

Yeah, you study away. Enjoy yourself, have a good time. Mean while people are dying and what are we doing to solve world hunger? Or are we do busy trying to figure out if man evolved with the ape or not.

JohnR7, Christian Forums 11 Comments [9/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 4281

Actually neither Harvey S. Firestone, Henry Ford or Thomas Edison were scientists by any stretch of the imagination. They were inventors, investors, businessmen, but there were not scientists.

JohnR7, Christian Forums 6 Comments [9/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 4282

Computers were invented by hobby clubs[, not scientists?]. Before Bill Gates, Microsoft and IBM, we had message boards very much like this one. Even with 300 bit modems.

JohnR7, Christian Forums 20 Comments [9/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 4283

Most electronics today is based on Edison's work, and he did not have much use for logic and scientific method.

JohnR7, Christian Forums 18 Comments [9/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 4284

[In reply to 'invention has nothing to do with science?']Not in the early stages. It is to simple at first. Science is to busy trying to figure out complicated things and they tend not to be good in dealing with the more basic and simple concepts.

JohnR7, Christian Forums 8 Comments [9/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 4285

It kinda of surprises me that you would ask that question... Before science ever got involved, we had a TV, Radio, Photograph, Movie Camera, Telephone, to name a few. What science gave us was the transister, and later the micro processor.

JohnR7, Christian Forums 31 Comments [9/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 4286

In fact like I said, telecommunications was started up by hobby clubs long before Bill Gates, IBM and modern science got involved in it... Science really did not get involved until computer were used for much more complex tasks than that.

JohnR7, Christian Forums 8 Comments [9/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 4287

People talk about how 'wonderful' science is. Well, when the Indians sold long island for about $24 worth of trinkets, they most have thought those trinkets were wonderful at the time, to give up the land. Now you would pay more like $24 a square foot for long island property. Science offers people a hand full of trinkets. People will then give up all they have for a hand full of nothing really. There is so much more to be had, and in reality, science offers so little.

JohnR7, Christian Forums 23 Comments [9/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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