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Quote# 5295

When you have no scriptural support for your position, it is a good tactic to side step the issue and attack the other person. It doesn't deal with the topic, but it is a good tactic.

Eladar, BaptistBoard 14 Comments [11/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5296

I'm just wondering if there is something wrong if one is not willing to trust in God. I wondering if we might be missing something if we think that our safety is the most important thing. I don't find the instruction to leave if abused in the Bible. I find the instruction to leave over adultry, not over physical abuse. How much of this is our societal values working its way into out belief system?

Eladar, BaptistBoard 0 Comments [11/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5297

The closest thing that I can get for that is a combination of the turn the other cheek idea and Paul's statement that the man is the head of the family. If the wife has the husband arrested [for abuse], then the wife is usurping authority over her husband.

Eladar, BaptistBoard 11 Comments [11/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5298

[Replying to a hypothetical scenario of an abusive wife]Once again, I'm the head of the family, therefore am in a better position to deal with this problem than a woman would be from my Biblical perspective. I would have her stop. If she would not, then I'd have her arrested.

Eladar, BaptistBoard 3 Comments [11/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5299

She is knowingly having him thrown in jail and out of the house. This is usurping authority.

Eladar, BaptistBoard 0 Comments [11/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5300

Once again, an opion based on social values, but devoid of biblical suport.

Eladar, BaptistBoard 0 Comments [11/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5301

Yes, I agree that it [hitting] is abuse and pain. I would just like the see the scripture that backs up your position that this is grounds for divorce. There's one for adultry, but there isn't one for physical abuse. Do you believe Jesus wasn't aware of this problem?

Eladar, BaptistBoard 16 Comments [11/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5302

I really do believe that our societal values have worked its ways into the very core of beliefs. I'm not so sure this is such a good thing.

Eladar, BaptistBoard 0 Comments [11/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5303

Where in the Bible does it say that a husband who is a jerk or in violation of civil law is not to be respected and to be the head of the family?

Eladar, BaptistBoard 16 Comments [11/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5304

You are making the mistake of believing that what happens to us is important. It is our own relationship with God which is important. This is the very reason why slavery is allowed in a Godly community. This is the very reason why liberals must make up excuses for why there are so many insonsitancies between their idea of a loving God and what the Bible says God commands.

Eladar, BaptistBoard 5 Comments [11/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5305

If this is incorrect, then why is slavery allowed in the Christian community?

Eladar, BaptistBoard 7 Comments [11/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5306

You can believe this if you like. It is a lie, but you are allowed to believe a lie if you wish. Was it illegal to beat a slave during bibilical times? According to the Bible it was not. But as I said, believe what you choose to believe.

Eladar, BaptistBoard 0 Comments [11/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5307

According to Jesus, there is only one reason why a divorce is correct and that has nothing to do with abuse. Do you really believe that Jesus was ignorant of this problem?... Didn't God give us brains to determine what is right and wrong?

Eladar, BaptistBoard 4 Comments [11/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5308

There are dynamics at play here. Everyone plays a part. If you get the picture from one side, you are getting a very distorted view. The family is a system and each member adds to and is affected by what other members do. You can play the blame [the abuser] game if you like. It just isn't entirely accurate in many of the situations out there.

Eladar, BaptistBoard 1 Comments [11/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5309

On the other hand, small revivals occur in some 3rd world countries like the notoriously apostate country of Haiti: the poor Voodoo-ists (Devil worshippers) command their children to go to Christian schools (100%) and get saved. Every state-run and private school in Haiti performs daily evangelical praying and singing as per Christ's teachings and the gospel. The T[heory]o[f]E[volution] is fully discarded from all K1-12th grade curriculums. Thus, these poor wretches have not entirely discarded Christ's teachings nor gospel.

Philip, EvC Forum 8 Comments [11/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5310

Yep it is a result of the fall of man... Snake venom, in a world with higher air pressure becomes something very different to a toxin, in fact the total opposite.

Nasa, CreationTalk 10 Comments [11/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5311

[Arguing against theistic evolution]And this overlooks the fact that evolution is a wasteful, cruel and inefficient process... and there is loads of death and suffering.

Socrates, Theology Web 10 Comments [11/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5312

We came from primordial soup. No better yet, we came out of a coterie of atoms who decided that life was too boring without humans and everything else that we marvel at. or am i really wrong about the big bang?

EltronRangamma, Christian Forums 16 Comments [11/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5313

what i implied was, the atheistic view of big bang doesn't have an answer for the origin of man.

EltronRangamma, Christian Forums 16 Comments [11/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5314

Mutations which confer resistance to HIV could also be adaption to enviroment...or...possibly Gods judgement to those who have sinned as prophecied in the Bible.

anangel4u, Rapture Ready 8 Comments [11/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5315

Omg this thread is so gay. I'm glad I never come to this forum, for I would have lost all of my beliefs from realist bitches. Can't you just leave the religious people alone. Is it against the fucking law to have beliefs, no matter how unrealistic they may seem to you cunts?

Element_Iron, BlizzForums 3 Comments [11/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5316

Why Don't All The Openly Rebellious God Haters Of this World Commit Suicide?... What hope do they have to keep on living without the love of God, Jesus as their savior, & the power of the Holy Spirit Guiding them through life. If they are this against God, why don't they choose to commit suicide? Are many of these evil God haters deep down afraid of death? Do they know suicide will abruptly bring them into Satan's Hellish realm? What do you think?

Stevangelist, Rapture Ready 24 Comments [11/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5317

Why would anyone assume I am wishing death on anyone? [scratching head smiley] I am just wondering what keeps a God hater like a Satanist from living instead of committing suicide.

Stevangelist, Rapture Ready 10 Comments [11/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5318

If We Evangelical Christians Are Still Here In Five Years... How far do you believe Liberals and Atheists will have made it in their quest to outlaw Evangelical Christianity in America?

Stevangelist, Rapture Ready 28 Comments [11/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5319

I just got my monthly Voice of the Martyr's magazine yesterday. They think within 15 years persecution will be as bad here as it is anywhere.

GloryBound, Rapture Ready 15 Comments [11/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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