FSTDT Quotes for October 2002

Quote# 777

Witnessing to Mormons is extremely difficult. I've had many opportunities online (on another message board), as well as a few opportunities face-to-face, and in all cases I've found Mormons to be extremely nice people who are wearing spiritual blinders. The cult of Mormonism is so ingrained in their thinking that the mere mention that they worship a different Jesus, different God, and that their religion is, at best, very loosely based on the Bible, just brings blank stares (in person), or quick changes of the subject (online). Mormon apologists also tend to be militant and sometimes downright sneaky in the way they present their beliefs -- everything is wrapped in scripture, but beneath the scripture is nothing but the Book of Mormon and the words of Mormon "prophets".

dad4jesus, ChristianBoard.com 7 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 5

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Quote# 778

[On being told that the Golden Plates of Mormonism had more witnesses than the Resurrection of Jesus]

Suppose that [Joseph] Smith and the others did have a vision. Isn't Satan capable of deception? Though there were those testified to the vision and/or seeing the plates . . . if their witness disagrees with the Bible - I can not accept thier testimony as valid regardless of their sincerity.

damacon, ChristianBoard.com 9 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 779

[On Mormonism]

i saw this movie last night and realized the connection and parallel it makes here. the whole gist of the movie is a computer generated actress that everyone has seen, talked to, heard of, but she didn't exist.

i am not asserting this as a substantial argument, it was a movie, but it is amazing that people can be pursuaded to believe in something when in fact it never existed.

minister2student, ChristianBoard.com 8 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 780

For example, Mormonism teaches things such as baptism of the dead, that Jesus and Satan are spirit brothers, that man can one day achieve godhood, that God has a body of flesh and bones, and that there is no salvation outside of the Mormon church. These are not only serious doctrinal aberrations, but they are so far out of line with what the Bible says, that Mormonism becomes not a Christian denomination, but a cult.

dad4jesus, ChristianBoard.com 11 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 781

Regarding the human imperfection, I can see how that would make sense, since it was written by a human, however the only other God-inspired document in the history of the world is proved to be 99.99% accurate, or so I have read through research and obviously believe by faith. I am obviously speaking of the Bible.

minister2student, ChristianBoard.com 2 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 782

[On the credibility of Mormon miracle eyewitnesses] two men could say they went fishing and caught a 20 pound fish and that they ate it. When in fact, they may not have caught a fish at all. Just because these two men give testimony to these events does not make it truth. I know what we are talking about is of more significance than fishing, but the principle and philosophy still apply.

minister2student, ChristianBoard.com 17 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 783

'wishful' or 'magic thinking', which is basically about "I want it to be true and so it is". This is frequently encountered in scientists who want to prove their hypotheses; their minds interpret data in a certain way because it supports their ideas.

myself, ChristianBoard.com 15 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 784

can we "prove it"? no.

can we "know" it's true? yes.

we know it's true because God has given us faith to accept it. proof does not work.

Christian for Israel, ChristianBoard.com 11 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 785

Think about it. No one alive has seen George Washington, how do we know he was real and not a myth created by our ancestors? In addition we have the testimonies of the changed lives over the centuries. How many today say their life was changed by George washington?

Glenn316, ChristianBoard.com 9 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 786

What, exactly, are Wiccans and how do people get mixed up in this stuff? How can we witness to people who are mixed up in the occult?

dad4jesus, ChristianBoard.com 10 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 787

[When Jerry Falwell remarked that Mohammed was a terrorist, resulting in a riot]

i watched rev. falwell on 60 minutes, and had the opportunity to meet him and him he speak last week. after meeting him in person, seeing his heart, and listening to the interview, i can't help but agree with what he said. muhammad was a man of war and was willing to use violence to move his religion around the world.

the muslim community can get mad about what he said and call him names, but the reason most americans aren't responding in a voice of opposition against the reverend falwell is that they agree with him and his conclusions.

minister2student, ChristianBoard.com 6 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 4

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Quote# 788

Muhammed was a false prophet. Islam is a false religion.
Jesus Christ is the only way to The Father.

elisha042, ChristianBoard.com 2 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 789

I agree with Falwell 1000%
Islam is a religon of terror, at least in islam ruled countries.

1) Fear of not making it into heaven; Follow these rules and _maybe_ you can enter paradice.

2) Fear of freedom of choice;

A. If you are a muslim you can't convert to anything else, under penalty of death.

B. People who are already another faith can't evangelize muslims. But they are supposed to be given "freedom" to worship by themselves. (but they can't grow because they deny any building permits.)

3) Fear of freedom of speech. You can't speak against islam and it's prophet. or they will stone you, burn your house, kill your family, and burn your church!

I'd better stop now, just thinking about this wicked religion that has decieved so many is making me mad.

Glenn316, ChristianBoard.com 17 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 790

[Replying to 'how do we find the One True Religion?']

Use the rule of thumb God has given us. If it doesn't line up with scripture [Holy Bible] in context, throw it out. Man made tradition is what keeps getting people in trouble.

elisha042, ChristianBoard.com 4 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 791

Everyone agrees there is water on Earth, right?

This means no matter what there has to be oxygen. You see the sun heats up the Earth and water evaporates. So now you have hydrogen and oxygen floating around.

Flaming Blaze, Christian Forums 13 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: -2

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Quote# 792

It really bothers me when all I ever see on nightly television and the movies is the liberal political agenda. Just like that t.v. show the West Wing. It's like they are trying to glorify and rearrange Bill Clinton's presidency in order to make him seem like a really good person.

Amessenjah, POD Warrior Forum 1 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: -2

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Quote# 793

My opinion (nothing against you) is that [Joseph] Smith was a delusional liar. Kinda of like an old school David Koresh or Pol Pot.

Rebuker of Hatred, POD Warrior Forum 1 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: -1

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Quote# 794

the thing about Jesus is that he declared himself to be the only way... he is either self centered or God in the flesh. you can guess what i think about Him. krishna and allah lead to Hell. follow them if you want to.

Bible Believer, POD Warrior Forum 4 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 3

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Quote# 795

[On Hitler]

if he truly did repent and trust Jesus with his life, then yes he would go to heaven. Does not the Scripture say (which I emphasized for everyone who reads this) WHOEVER belives is saved. Are you saying that the sacrifice Jesus made wasn't big enough for Hitler? That what he did was too heinous for God to forgive? Not whoever believes and..... just whoever believes. That is all that matters! And that is all there is to it, it's not really that complicated, but it is so hard for some to accept. No matter what you have done in your life: Killed 6 million Jews in the Holocaust or told a little white lie at school, either way you need Jesus, and either way, the blood of Jesus Christ can cover you! Praise God!!

sbbqb7n16, Christian Forums 15 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 796

People do not believe in evolution because they have been led there by solid evidence. They are hoodwinked into the Darwinian community by superficial, emotional, and personal factors. They only delude themselves when they think otherwise.

dad4jesus, Rapture Ready 5 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 4

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Quote# 797

I only say fuck science cause it's your ticket to hell. You'll hate science as much as I do if you go.

I don't hate the "truths" of science... just science in general. I remember when I was a young lad doing Chemistry in high school and the whole class would get so excited when we were about to perform an experiment. However, I found doing the experiments more boring than the theory. Yes, physics and chemistry wasted two years of my life where I could've been smoking weed and getting drunk... thus why I have a deep hatred for science.

Livin'4Christ, POD Warrior Forum 17 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 5

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Quote# 798

At the point were the baby will 100% die [and kill your wife], in which I don't agree a doctor should say,ever, there would not be much choice would there? But do you let God have control of the situation or do you take human life in your own hands [and perform an abortion]? I guess at that point a person would have to ask themself if they believe in God. Then have faith that God will perform a miracle.

Amessenjah, POD Warrior Forum 9 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 7

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Quote# 799

If I were to serve you dinner, and you asked for table salt, or sodium chloride, and I gave you sodium and chlorine, I could go to jail (if you inhaled too much chlorine). There is a substantive difference between the parts and the whole - most people recognize that. Once a sperm has fertilized an egg - everything is there, it is whole, just immature.

sniff, POD Warrior Forum 4 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 7

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Quote# 800

God told the Israelites when they moved into the land to wipe out everybody, to spare no one, not even their cattle. Why did he do that? I don't know. That's God's call. In that case, genocide was obviously the right thing to do, because God commanded it.

Tyson Thorne, Westword News 9 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 9

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Quote# 801

there is no "i was a christian". there is no such thing. you either are or you arnt. let me explain something...and its called SURETY. there is one thing that i have, that you dont...and its called SURETY. i have TOTAL SURETY. let me repeat. THERE IS NO DOUBT IN MY MIND WHATSOEVER THAT JESUS CHRIST IS REAL. you CANNOT change my mind. absolute SURETY. that, my friend, is called faith. Do you have that? if you had that, then you wouldnt be on this website, asking people questions.

datgurl11 [TPF], POD Warrior Forum 4 Comments [10/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 9

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